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Build -A-Teaching: Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 Jesus Christ Foretells the Future !!! How do you understand these chapters???

 
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Build -A-Teaching: Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 Jesus Christ Foretells the Future !!! How do you understand these chapters???
In Mark Chapter 13, Luke 21, and Matthew 24

Jesus Christ tells what must soon come to pass. The

Gospel writers record many events that are similar and a

few things mentioned by some but not the others.

Where do you see us in these chapters?

Or, what do you understand about these chapters?

Or, is there anything else you would like to share about

these chapters?


Thank you for any positive contribution you care to make!


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Matt 24 Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives. His disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will signal your return and the end of the world?

This teaches me that they knew He would leave and then return.


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v. 7 Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come

Interesting that Jesus says these are "the first of the birth pains" with MORE to come!!!

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12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold.

Just turn on your TV to see this one fulfilled already.

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14 And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come.

This seems to be the a certain sign that the end is upon us. I wonder if China and India have really 'heard' the gospel yet. I'd say they are being exposed to it right now.

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15 “The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place.” (Reader, pay attention!)

i'd love to hear what some Christians think about this!
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21 For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones.

What will all of this "calamity" be? Any ideas?
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24 For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25 See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.

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Mt 24: 15-31.........includes many future things that will happen.


Jesus warns us in advance.......that when you see the abomination of desolation (as spoken of by Daniel the prophet) standing in the holy place.....


"then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."


"Let him who in on the housetop not come down to take anything out of his house.


"And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes."


Just these few verses say a lot. I do not feel that Christ would tell people to do this......only to let them starve in the wilderness.


He will take care of you in a supernatural manner in the wilderness.......just as He did to Israel when they fled Egypt.


Taking that first step......toward the wilderness......without anything.......will require the faith of David......when he went out to meet Goliath.


This type of faith, in my opinion, needs to developed in advance.....with God's help.


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^^^^^ Thanks for Sharing



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27 For as the lightning flashes in the east and shines to the west, so it will be when the Son of Man comes. 28 Just as the gathering of vultures shows there is a carcass nearby, so these signs indicate that the end is near.

The return of Jesus Christ will be unmistakeable!!!
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15 “The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place.” (Reader, pay attention!)

i'd love to hear what some Christians think about this!
 Quoting: Once4All



Matthew 24......seen standing

Jerusalem at that time will also be surrounded be armies (Luke 21: 20-21)


Daniel 11: 31.......placed there

Daniel 12: 11.......set up


Abomination

1. Seen standing
2. Placed there
3. Set Up


"And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth TO MAKE AN IMAGE TO THE BEAST who was wounded by the sword and lived.

"He was granted power TO GIVE BREATH TO THE IMAGE of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed." (Rev. 13: 14-15)



(It then talks about the mark of the beast)



The Abomination is therefore, in my opinion, a statue of the man of evil that is set up, placed there, and seen standing in Jerusalem.


It is able to talk......and also has the power to put people to death.
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29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days,

the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light,
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.[g]




30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth



The "sign" that the Son of Man appears in the heavens and it seems this will inspire deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth!!!

What will this "sign" be??? Can you imagine how many people will be saved as a result of this???
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15 “The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place.” (Reader, pay attention!)

i'd love to hear what some Christians think about this!
 Quoting: Once4All



Matthew 24......seen standing

Jerusalem at that time will also be surrounded be armies (Luke 21: 20-21)


Daniel 11: 31.......placed there

Daniel 12: 11.......set up


Abomination

1. Seen standing
2. Placed there
3. Set Up


"And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth TO MAKE AN IMAGE TO THE BEAST who was wounded by the sword and lived.

"He was granted power TO GIVE BREATH TO THE IMAGE of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed." (Rev. 13: 14-15)



(It then talks about the mark of the beast)



The Abomination is therefore, in my opinion, a statue of the man of evil that is set up, placed there, and seen standing in Jerusalem.


It is able to talk......and also has the power to put people to death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35399788


Thanks for sharing. Makes me wonder about the statue of Obama that is supposed to be set up!
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And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


31 And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world from the farthest ends of the earth AND HEAVEN.



I plan to look at a few translations but isn't it interesting that God's Kingdom pulls from Earth and Heaven. I think [i will check] other translation will say from the farthest ends of the earth and universe!!!

Some Scriptures speak of a Universal Work of Jesus Christ.
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29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days,

the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light,
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.[g]




30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth



The "sign" that the Son of Man appears in the heavens and it seems this will inspire deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth!!!

What will this "sign" be??? Can you imagine how many people will be saved as a result of this???
 Quoting: Once4All


After perhaps months of worldwide darkness.....with the elites hiding in fear in caves.....and declaring God's wrath is about the begin (6th seal).....


I feel that the sign will be a bright flash of light from the eastern horizon to the west. They will also see the Lord in the clouds.


"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."


This is a possibility......a great flash of light after a prolonded period of darkness.......but the sign could also be something else as well. It is difficult to say with certainty.
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29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days,

the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light,
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.[g]




30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth



The "sign" that the Son of Man appears in the heavens and it seems this will inspire deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth!!!

What will this "sign" be??? Can you imagine how many people will be saved as a result of this???
 Quoting: Once4All


After perhaps months of worldwide darkness.....with the elites hiding in fear in caves.....and declaring God's wrath is about the begin (6th seal).....


I feel that the sign will be a bright flash of light from the eastern horizon to the west. They will also see the Lord in the clouds.


"For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."


This is a possibility......a great flash of light after a prolonded period of darkness.......but the sign could also be something else as well. It is difficult to say with certainty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35399788


Thanks for sharing! Very interesting!


hf
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Good Morning Friends!

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15 “The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place.” (Reader, pay attention!)

i'd love to hear what some Christians think about this!
 Quoting: Once4All


Jesus Christ desolated the kingdom of darkness 2000 years ago.
Jesus became sin for all mankind.
The Father needed to look away from His own Son as He bore all sin for all generations.

Jesus Christ is the little horn Who changed the Covenant and destroyed all the works of Satan.
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15 “The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecration standing in the Holy Place.” (Reader, pay attention!)

i'd love to hear what some Christians think about this!
 Quoting: Once4All


Jesus Christ desolated the kingdom of darkness 2000 years ago.
Jesus became sin for all mankind.
The Father needed to look away from His own Son as He bore all sin for all generations.

Jesus Christ is the little horn Who changed the Covenant and destroyed all the works of Satan.
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Interesting! Thanks for sharing!!!


hf
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There is truth in these videos here. I think she mentions what she has learned about what is coming up (which other visionaries are also saying similar). I am a witness to this visionary in the year 2000 I had a powerful mystical experience during an apparition of Our Lady (of emmitsburg) during a novena....

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Here she is in ecstacy during the apparition and a message received (this video mentions the Illumination of souls and the purification):

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Here is MDM speaking of her mystical experiences:

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very interesting.
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This is from the Gospel of Luke:


11 There will be great earthquakes, and there will be famines and plagues in many lands, and there will be terrifying things and great miraculous signs from heaven.

So, there will be "terrifying things" and...


GREAT MIRACULOUS SIGNS FROM HEAVEN!!! WoW

What will they be???

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25 “And there will be strange signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. 26 People will be terrified at what they see coming upon the earth, for the powers in the heavens will be shaken.

So it looks like many people across the world will be

"terrified" at what they see coming toward the Earth

because "the powers in the heavens will be shaken."
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Very next sentences...

27 Then everyone will see the Son of Man coming on a cloud with power and great glory.

28 So when all these things begin to happen, stand and look up, for your salvation is near!”


So when all of these things "begin to happen"...

Well, I'd say the "nations in distress" and the

"roaring of the seas" has already begun to happen!!!
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34 “Watch out! Don’t let your hearts be dulled by carousing and drunkenness, and by the worries of this life. Don’t let that day catch you unaware,
35 like a trap. For that day will come upon everyone living on the earth.
36 Keep alert at all times. And pray that you might be strong enough to escape these coming horrors and stand before the Son of Man.


I wonder how a person would be strong enough

"to escape these coming horrors" ...

what is He talking about here???
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37 Every day Jesus went to the Temple to teach, and each evening he returned to spend the night on the Mount of Olives. 38 The crowds gathered at the Temple early each morning to hear him.

How wonderful it must have been to go to the temple

early in the morning to hear Jesus Himself teach!
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And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


31 And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world from the farthest ends of the earth AND HEAVEN.



I plan to look at a few translations but isn't it interesting that God's Kingdom pulls from Earth and Heaven.

Some Scriptures speak of a Universal Work of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Once4All


It is part of LDS (Mormon) doctrine that Jesus Christ died for the sins of all those within the realm of God's creation, and that God created 'worlds without number' that harbor their own human populations. The reason Christ's mission took place here, on THIS earth, was because of all the worlds of God's creation, this world was the only one that was evil enough to take the life of their own savior.

To think that we live on the most evil world of all of creation gives me encouragement - how much greater will be the eternal reward for standing fast and 'enduring until the end'?
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29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days,

the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light,
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.[g]




30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth



The "sign" that the Son of Man appears in the heavens and it seems this will inspire deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth!!!

What will this "sign" be??? Can you imagine how many people will be saved as a result of this???
 Quoting: Once4All


I just checked about 7 different translations and they do agree that The Word is saying a "sign" will appear in the heavens [sky?] BEFORE the Lord Jesus returns!
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

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EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. hf
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Re: Build -A-Teaching: Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 Jesus Christ Foretells the Future !!! How do you understand these chapters???
And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


31 And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the world from the farthest ends of the earth AND HEAVEN.



I plan to look at a few translations but isn't it interesting that God's Kingdom pulls from Earth and Heaven.

Some Scriptures speak of a Universal Work of Jesus Christ.
 Quoting: Once4All


It is part of LDS (Mormon) doctrine that Jesus Christ died for the sins of all those within the realm of God's creation, and that God created 'worlds without number' that harbor their own human populations. The reason Christ's mission took place here, on THIS earth, was because of all the worlds of God's creation, this world was the only one that was evil enough to take the life of their own savior.

To think that we live on the most evil world of all of creation gives me encouragement - how much greater will be the eternal reward for standing fast and 'enduring until the end'?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35590054


Yes, the Word of God keeps encouraging us to pray so that we will have the strength to 'stand' before the Son of Man.
John 11:35 Jesus wept.

[link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

Have you given good points today?

EVERYONE who calls upon the LORD JESUS will be saved! [Romans 10:13]


Jesus Christ will return as King of all kings and Lord of all lords. hf