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Society's biggest disease: The Achieving Mind; The Obsession of having to Work to Fulfill a Purpose in Life

 
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People are workaholics, always busy with something and if they have nothing to do, they get nervous.
What work are trees doing, and what work are birds doing? And what work are the sun and the moon and the stars doing? Except man, nobody is so insane to think that you have a certain great work to complete.

People look at each other and want to see each other work. They call you lazy and try to make you feel bad if you do nothing.
Naturally everyone has to do a little work to make a living but typically society has a built in reward system for overachievers. That's why there are so many people in politics and on Wall Street. That's why there are wars, because people can't just be and celebrate existence in all simplicity. They have to go farther, faster and get richer.

Parents push their kids telling them that they have to be somebody important in life and that they have to work all their lives. They're afraid of having a lazy vagabond kid. But what if the kid would be happier as a vagabond than as a busy lawyer?

The ego wants you to be indispensable to existence, that without your work, existence will not be complete.

People are giving nourishment to their ego by believing that by fulfilling work they will have fulfilled their destiny.

Existence is not a work, it is a celebration. People don't celebrate enough driven by guilt feeling that they have to work all the time to be respected and admired in society.
Work is destroying the whole beauty of life and existence. By the time you stop working, you may just drop dead because you're too worn out and your mind is so conditioned with work related stuff that existence couldn't care less about. I hear people talk about work everywhere and all the time. At lunch, on the bus, at parties. They never shut up and are missing the whole beauty of life presenting itself as the great cosmic joke.
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Congrats on being free!
peace to you.
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And lately everyone seems to want to write a book.
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^^^

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This is one perspective, which balances with the fact if tons of people weren't working all the time, there would be no economy and infrastructure to su0pport YOUR life.
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Work is of noble value.
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"He who does not work,

let him not eat."
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Re: Society's biggest disease: The Achieving Mind; The Obsession of having to Work to Fulfill a Purpose in Life
animals are constantly working..... hunting for food,

silverbacks forage for food 8 hours a day, having to eat 60 pounds of greens per day

humans work to eat my freind, that is the way its set up, if there were no jobs we would have to work feilds and hunt for food...

work can be a good thing, teaches dicipline, confidence and self esteem of having responsibilities, these are good things not bad in my opinion...
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Work crisis & anxiety, society's expectations and the real reasons why people want to have a career and acquire material goods and high status quo.
Not really a fan of TED, but this talk is funny and bares some truth...

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We would be better off if people wouldn't be so crazed with work.
It's not the work comparable with a tiger hunting for food. People choose work to identify themselves with meaning and to be raise their status quo.
This society is one of overachievers and attention seekers. Tigers don't go hunting again after they already caught their prey just to show off. There is some territorial behavior to establish hierarchies in the wild, but people just work to have something to do and to feel important. Constantly running around doing something, terrified to stop as that would make them face themselves without all the titles and occupations. What's there when you strip that all away?

The planet would be less polluted, our food would be purer, people would enjoy each other more and families would spend more time with each other and even though most people may disagree at this time, I feel that the cell phone was a really bad idea. Not only does it create more disconnect between people and odd dysfunctional behavior, the conversations people are having have become more shallow and people just chatter about nothing all the time. And the cell phone with its towers and wireless e-smog all over and throughout is one of the worst negative contributing elements to future diseases.
Technological advancement has not proven itself as the greatest thing.
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What about the obsession of having kids to fulfill a purpose in life.
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Work is not the problem. Careers that have no real meaning to us should be eliminated.. Jobs that are worthless and keep us busy doing something that honestly doesn't matter and create unnecessary work. Jobs in Banking is just one example. Money is a talisman to keep us slaves. We should work in order to live not in order to gain material objects that keep us chasing our tails. If people decided to work to keep humanity peaceful, you would see many jobs disappear overnight. People would not expect payment if everyone knew that there work actually meant something to humanity. Right now people are sickened by all the games in order to take all our energy. We cannot advance our race if we are too tired to do anything worthwhile.

Peace.

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You are fucking right we are not ment to work as everyone does today. were suppose to all work taking care of our own FARM Producing for our SELFS and FAMILY and working together for the better good of our farms and selfs and future wife and children
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OP, you bring philosophy to laziness. Karl Marx was a lazy P.O.S. as well that sucked off the teet of the wealthy patrons he had. In fact, THAT philosopher was SO lazy, he allowed one of his own children to starve to death and his wife work and beg to keep his offspring alive.

He became famous only because of his writing.

Maybe you should start on that book...
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GIVE us today, our daily bread.


No mention of work
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this is what i think of every damn day in college.... too bad the world has already been written to work like this..

i dont want a job!! i wanna live on a island appreciating nature, with my wife, and kids, growing food, exploring, other things....
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You are fucking right we are not ment to work as everyone does today. were suppose to all work taking care of our own FARM Producing for our SELFS and FAMILY and working together for the better good of our farms and selfs and future wife and children
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If you think that is easier, you've never worked on a farm.

Our lives today are still relatively easy and priveleged compared to the rest of human history.


But many now just want to sit around, smole dope and say gibsmedat.
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Re: Society's biggest disease: The Achieving Mind; The Obsession of having to Work to Fulfill a Purpose in Life
People are workaholics, always busy with something and if they have nothing to do, they get nervous.
What work are trees doing, and what work are birds doing? And what work are the sun and the moon and the stars doing? Except man, nobody is so insane to think that you have a certain great work to complete.

People look at each other and want to see each other work. They call you lazy and try to make you feel bad if you do nothing.
Naturally everyone has to do a little work to make a living but typically society has a built in reward system for overachievers. That's why there are so many people in politics and on Wall Street. That's why there are wars, because people can't just be and celebrate existence in all simplicity. They have to go farther, faster and get richer.

Parents push their kids telling them that they have to be somebody important in life and that they have to work all their lives. They're afraid of having a lazy vagabond kid. But what if the kid would be happier as a vagabond than as a busy lawyer?

The ego wants you to be indispensable to existence, that without your work, existence will not be complete.

People are giving nourishment to their ego by believing that by fulfilling work they will have fulfilled their destiny.

Existence is not a work, it is a celebration. People don't celebrate enough driven by guilt feeling that they have to work all the time to be respected and admired in society.
Work is destroying the whole beauty of life and existence. By the time you stop working, you may just drop dead because you're too worn out and your mind is so conditioned with work related stuff that existence couldn't care less about. I hear people talk about work everywhere and all the time. At lunch, on the bus, at parties. They never shut up and are missing the whole beauty of life presenting itself as the great cosmic joke.
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Tell that to women, They dont want to stay home to take care of the kids anymore.
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What about the obsession of having kids to fulfill a purpose in life.
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That also falls under the same category for many. Some people have kids because it's part of nature but there are many who have kids just because they surrender to the pressures of society. There are many women who don't feel whole or as part of society if they don't have children. There are some who burden themselves with great stress and hardship to have and raise kids as single women because they don't want to feel left out. If they were free and society was more tolerant and accepting, they would maybe choose not to have kids and feel good about it, but that is a taboo here and those women are immediately called selfish.
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FOOL dont matter how hard it is thats what you do to provide for self family and future wife and children faggot you never worked a day in the field .
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"What work are trees doing, and what work are birds doing? And what work are the sun and the moon and the stars doing?"

Middle School Earth Science class would clear that up for you...

The Trees work 24/7 as well as the sun. Birds work constantly for their survival.
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FOOL dont matter how hard it is thats what you do to provide for self family and future wife and children faggot you never worked a day in the field .
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If your dumbass is talking to me, I've never done anything but hard work for 35 years now.
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You are fucking right we are not ment to work as everyone does today. were suppose to all work taking care of our own FARM Producing for our SELFS and FAMILY and working together for the better good of our farms and selfs and future wife and children
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I tend to agree with this view. There's no escape to working , but there's work and there's work.
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People are workaholics, always busy with something and if they have nothing to do, they get nervous.
What work are trees doing, and what work are birds doing? And what work are the sun and the moon and the stars doing? Except man, nobody is so insane to think that you have a certain great work to complete.

People look at each other and want to see each other work. They call you lazy and try to make you feel bad if you do nothing.
Naturally everyone has to do a little work to make a living but typically society has a built in reward system for overachievers. That's why there are so many people in politics and on Wall Street. That's why there are wars, because people can't just be and celebrate existence in all simplicity. They have to go farther, faster and get richer.

Parents push their kids telling them that they have to be somebody important in life and that they have to work all their lives. They're afraid of having a lazy vagabond kid. But what if the kid would be happier as a vagabond than as a busy lawyer?

The ego wants you to be indispensable to existence, that without your work, existence will not be complete.

People are giving nourishment to their ego by believing that by fulfilling work they will have fulfilled their destiny.

Existence is not a work, it is a celebration. People don't celebrate enough driven by guilt feeling that they have to work all the time to be respected and admired in society.
Work is destroying the whole beauty of life and existence. By the time you stop working, you may just drop dead because you're too worn out and your mind is so conditioned with work related stuff that existence couldn't care less about. I hear people talk about work everywhere and all the time. At lunch, on the bus, at parties. They never shut up and are missing the whole beauty of life presenting itself as the great cosmic joke.
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Tell that to women, They dont want to stay home to take care of the kids anymore.
 Quoting: ELNATHAN APOLLYON


Women too have caught the workaholic bug. The line between what is female and male nature has blurred. It's fine when a woman has found passion in work but it's neurotic if she works for the above mentioned reasons, to boost her ego and to be admired and put on a pedestal by others.
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owning a farm, making your own food with your Whole family is how it was ment to be if not then your a person who likes the way things are today
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This is one perspective, which balances with the fact if tons of people weren't working all the time, there would be no economy and infrastructure to su0pport YOUR life.
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Correction - there would be no economy and infrastructure to support TPTB

You would simply do things to survive and celebrate the rest of life.
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this is what i think of every damn day in college.... too bad the world has already been written to work like this..

i dont want a job!! i wanna live on a island appreciating nature, with my wife, and kids, growing food, exploring, other things....
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More and more people seem to find that idea increasingly appealing. It would be nice if things developed in that direction and people started to feel content instead of never satisfied.
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What's always amazed me is how despite all of our conveniences, technologies, and devices that are supposedly there to make our lives simpler, our lives are infinitely more complex.

Despite how many modern conveniences we have, people still feel like the meaning of their lives is to work 70 hour weeks.

Outside my house, I can see deer lounging around my house pretty much all day. Barely doing anything - just sitting there, eating from some bushes, and really, nothing else. THEY figured out how to live life correctly and probably look at us humans like we're the crazy ones. Same with the rabbits, foxes, elk, birds, etc. All of them spend most of their time sitting around doing nothing - never depressed, never anxious, never worrying about their "direction" in life.

If humans were as well-adjusted and peaceful as we are intelligent, we would be living in a utopia with all our surrounding environment. Instead, we are war-like, brutal, pollutive, wasteful, highly ideologically driven, and destructive.

What happened?
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we use to be like that back in england before everything blew out of preportions
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What's always amazed me is how despite all of our conveniences, technologies, and devices that are supposedly there to make our lives simpler, our lives are infinitely more complex.

Despite how many modern conveniences we have, people still feel like the meaning of their lives is to work 70 hour weeks.

Outside my house, I can see deer lounging around my house pretty much all day. Barely doing anything - just sitting there, eating from some bushes, and really, nothing else. THEY figured out how to live life correctly and probably look at us humans like we're the crazy ones. Same with the rabbits, foxes, elk, birds, etc. All of them spend most of their time sitting around doing nothing - never depressed, never anxious, never worrying about their "direction" in life.

If humans were as well-adjusted and peaceful as we are intelligent, we would be living in a utopia with all our surrounding environment. Instead, we are war-like, brutal, pollutive, wasteful, highly ideologically driven, and destructive.

What happened?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34900904


Maybe the purpose for humanity is not to live in a utopia, maybe that environment wouldn't serve us to fulfill our destinies.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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You are fucking right we are not ment to work as everyone does today. were suppose to all work taking care of our own FARM Producing for our SELFS and FAMILY and working together for the better good of our farms and selfs and future wife and children
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8943526

If you think that is easier, you've never worked on a farm.

Our lives today are still relatively easy and priveleged compared to the rest of human history.


But many now just want to sit around, smole dope and say gibsmedat.
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From what I've heard, farming is a very hard work, but it may be so much more rewarding and turn into a form of meditation. You are in touch with the earth, producing something that you know it benefits many and you know exactly how it's accomplished. It can be a joy, but a lot of work today is so abstract and meaningless or just serves to make the rich richer and to keep the workers in their place and so forth.

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