Atheist dies, sees hell

B.W. Melvin wrote a book entitled “A Land Unknown” which is his personal account of his journey to Hell and back. Bryan had atheist values before his near death experience. He died from drinking Cholera-contaminated water, and found himself in Hell where he saw the truth that he had denied in the scriptures.

Excerpts from the book:

“I contracted Cholera by drinking contaminated water someone had left in a thermos while I was working at a local construction site. The progression on this disease left me in a severe dehydrated state which became terminal. I was at home and lying in bed when it happened. My breathing was becoming a series of protracted wheezing gasps. Looking around the room, I was amazed that I could see so pristine clear without my glasses. The alarm clock ticked. It was ten minutes till noon. Everything became surreal.”

With a sudden swoosh, I floated above my body. Hovering there, I fully realized I had died. At that time, I was not a Christian and fell into a naturalistic agnostic atheistic belief system. Despite growing up in a loving Southern Baptist family, I did not believe in the Christian concept of God. I knew very little about Jesus, the afterlife, and God. All this was about to radically change.

I floated above my body and felt no more pain from the effects of cholera. While gazing at the room, I turned and faced the ceiling. Suddenly, I felt myself drift through the ceiling’s textured drywall and was engulfed in an extremely peaceful blackness. In this pleasant darkness I heard the most astounding humming/singing sounds. I was floating in this pitch blackness listing to the resonances while slowly moving toward a speck of light that was slowly growing bigger and bigger as I neared.

Soon this dazzling brilliant light began dispelling this pleasant darkness in hues of colors never before seen. The light was being emitted by an individual standing upon what appeared to me to be a huge rock suspended in space. This person wore beautiful whitish robe like garments and seemed to be sitting on a chair carved out from the rock. I landed below this person. He stood up and walked down several steps to where I had landed. I wept and fell like a heavy sack of wheat. Someone touched my shoulder. I stood up.

This marvelous person showed me my life course, which revealed I was without excuse. It was then I knew I was being judged and deserved my fate. You could do nothing but stand directly before him, whose robe’s drooping hood concealed his face, and receive your sentence.

As I looked at him, I noticed that he bore terrible trauma to his hands and feet. Around the wrist were gnashes deeply cut therein. The bones clearly showing that the very joints had been ripped apart by bearing a great weight. He just stood there. I felt ashamed.

He began to speak to me by the agency of thought and told me I was to see another land for an appointed time. After arriving there, I was to speak his name and title and see what I would see. He went on and revealed that it was prearranged once for a person to die but returning is an option decided by his Father’s will. Children were raised; others were raised, for God’s glory and purposes when it was not their hour. He stated that I would return the way I had come, and then he pointed towards an entrance of a tunnel off to his left.

Seeing it, I was lifted by some gentle force and floated toward it, feet first. When this occurred, I noticed I was wearing robe like garments. I entered the tunnel and was engulfed within a violently spinning vortex heading toward a yellowish dint of light. Reaching it, I found myself falling from its sky and landed with a thud upon the ground.

I stood up and looked around. I saw a house on a hill, smelled horrible odors, and heard strange sounds. People came from the house and neared me with joyous shouts of welcome. Where was I? Heaven? Hell? At first, I thought I was in a paradise but the sounds and smells were all wrong.

Something was not right about these people either. For some reason they began appearing translucent. With this, I began to see them for what they really were – strange foul creatures emitting the illusions of people. Upon seeing this, two words erupted from my mouth like the staccato of a machine gun: Jesus Christ. I said these two words non-stop till I left this place. I was in a state of stark terror as the reality of where I was hit home.

One creature began to speak to me in a heavy unknown accent and told me to follow it. What choice did I have? It walked to the horizon’s skyline, which appeared painted on a wall, reached out, and parted the yellowish sky. It walked through the torn hole it had made, bidding me to follow.

(The Following five paragraphs are a direct quote from my book: A Land Unknown: Hell’s Dominion, Chapter Seven, used with my permission)

“I followed the rank creature and immediately emerged on the other side of the horizon. A wide, dirty, flat, barren expanse of land gently sloped downward, betraying an endless circular spiral of misery. On the left side of the coiled grade were rows and rows of cubes with more cubes columned high, forming a wall of ten-by-ten foot partitions mirroring the events displayed inside.

Each cube was stacked six high, marring each ascending and descending spiraling level’s wall like a dirty mirror. The wide expanse was a road. Strange entities were traveling on it. This wide dusty road ended at a circular void, highlighting the center of this hellish domain.

The cubes appeared encompassed by thin smoke-tinted, gelatin-like walls. Each cube appeared to be about ten feet by ten feet square. You could see into these but not out of them. Within every chamber resided an individual person, trapped, unable to escape as I had.

Looking through the torn wall of the cube I had just stepped out of, the house and tree within were hauntingly calling my name to return. Perplexed, I stepped back for another glance at this cubicle. I was surprised that it was so small. Inside it had seemed so large!

Turning, I saw the lizard-like entity a few feet from me, reaching its ugly, greenish-yellow arms as if to drag me away to a desperate fate. Boxer style, I blocked the attempt. This fiend stepped back, grinning ear to ear.” End Quote.

What I saw is best described in the Holy Bible within the pages of Ezekiel 32:17-32. This chapter describes hell as a circular burial pit where the dead are buried within the walls of a pit in accordance to his or her deeds. Each individual is placed in a chamber described symbolically as a bed chamber (Ezekiel 32:24-25) where the resident restlessly rest experiencing recompense for his or her deeds (Note context of Ezekiel 32:30) performed on earth.

Inside each cube, I spied individual people in various stages of boredom, anguishes, and hideous various torments. Ghoulish entities were inside these cubes giving the illusions of people, places, and things to each trapped soul enacting the scenes from each person’s life. I also traveled between these cubes to more cubes that lay behind as the journey continued.

The creature before me began speaking to me again with such foul language and curses that I cannot record what it really said for you. I began understanding its speech and could sort out the general theme it was speaking from its cursing. It then began showing me around this domain.

Out from the cubicle wall’s was a large dusty plain or road. Both ugly and beautiful beings roamed in lose packs on this plain. During the duration of my stay, many of these entities attempted to engage me in conversation. I was too terrified to respond but only spoke out the words, “Jesus Christ” non-stop.

I was taken on a hellish tour of this place by the ghastly creature in front of me. We descended to the lower levels of the spiral road as well as observed what was happening inside the cubes to each lost soul we passed. This hellish journey seemed to last forever. I wanted to wake up so bad, but could not.

Each trapped soul reaped in full measure whatever they had sown during their lives. Many entered this pit and into the cubes by means of spinning vortexes. I also noticed another entrance. All those people trapped resided totally alone and were not aware of each other. The only thing each was aware of, were the creatures residing with them and the scenes enacted within their own personal square nightmarish abode.

I would say that each person trapped there felt a peculiar separation from God in the form of feeling banished forever from the loving nature of God and true life. Each knew fully that they deserved his or her fate because each chose to walk away from God and now resided in place without God as they desired during his or hers life lived on earth. God, in his great justice, fairness, and unfathomable love gave them what they desired: a place without God and where each was receiving the fruits of his or her own doings.

When many of these individuals entered their private abodes, they were first deceived into thinking they had arrived in a paradise. As eternity passes – the real nature of this place was fully revealed to them. Others entered into instant anguish. It is truly a place of doom, despair, and unending nightmares.

I felt greatest fear when the beastly guide tried to entrap me inside a unique cubicle. It is here, I was rescued while screaming out the words, Jesus Christ. I felt someone coming for me and arrive behind me and then lift me up.

(Quote from Book) “One arm was under my shoulders and the other under the bend of my knees. Oh! A sensation of love, mercy, authority, power, justice, and righteousness overwhelmed me. I no longer had any need to speak the two words that I previously spoke without ceasing. I turned my head into the cleft of the being’s shoulder and wept profusely against the white garb.

The Person who held me fast said not a word. I glanced at the hand gripping my shoulder. There was an ugly gash near the wrist close to the hand as though a great pulling weight had made this mark and separated the bones above the wrist. A hole went straight through, then the tear. You could easily have placed a finger through the gash, with your fingertip protruding to the other side, but to do so would have been very disrespectful and inappropriate at a time like this.”

I wept as the redeemer carried me back to the cube I arrived in and then through the vortex back to the rock. He set my feet upon that Huge Rock where I was granted a glimpse of Heaven and was told that none can enter Heaven unless they come through the gate which was the robe clad personage standing before me.

Many things were revealed to me there, on that rock, to numerous to record. I was told it was time to leave and return. I floated back the way I had come. I was soon in my room above my body looking at the scene below. I glided back into my body and awoke with a start. I could not regain my breath until someone began hitting me on my back. I was rushed to a Hospital for further treatment and recovery.

The duration of my NDE, was about four hours. I remember seeing a clock when I first left my body stating the time was 11:50 AM and when I returned, it was close to 4 PM. I still suffer several health effects from this. My heart makes a nice clicking sound. My short term memory suffered as well. Afterwards, my speech was slurred a bit but has returned to normal with the passage of time.

My experience has left me a deep appreciation for the work of Jesus Christ and His salvation. I became a born again Christian because of it. I have renewed understanding of God’s profound love, justice, righteousness, grace, and mercy. Jesus came to save that which is lost. You see, heaven is real and hell is real. Eternity is without end. Do you really want to spend eternity without God? Or with God? That choice is yours alone – the decision is yours? What will it be? What will it be?

Belief creates reality, people will see and experience what is expected after their "death", initially anyway, before all misconceptions are replaced by a larger reality.

Our beliefs come from different levels of our being, we are not always conscious of deeply rooted beliefs that we hold. That is why people can have vastly different experiences during a NDE and why it may contradict their "surface" beliefs.

IMO

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Speaking of scars of the physical flesh OP... If you read Ian Stephenson's book on children's past life memories he reveals numerous cases that have been documented throughout the world where investigators have been able to track down the identities of deceased individuals based on details/names/accounts that the living children recalled. When investigators researched the manner or cause of death of the deceased individual, they discovered that the children bore birthmarks and scars on their bodies that corresponded with the physical wounds/injures of the deceased person whose life they were recounting. This was even confirmed by pulling autopsy reports and medical records of the deceased. You can read about it here:

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This is the revised edition of Dr. Stevenson's 1987 book, summarizing for general readers almost forty years of experience in the study of children who claim to remember previous lives. For many Westerners the idea of reincarnation seems remote and bizarre; it is the author's intent to correct some common misconceptions. New material relating to birthmarks and birth defects, independent replication studies with a critique of criticisms, and recent developments in genetic study are included. The work gives an overview of the history of the belief in and evidence for reincarnation. Representative cases of children, research methods used, analyses of the cases and of variations due to different cultures, and the explanatory value of the idea of reincarnation for some unsolved problems in psychology and medicine are reviewed.


What say you?

Based on our previous discussions are you going to allege that 'demons' placed these birthmarks on these children's bodies in addition to 'tricking' them into recounting these memories of lives they did not live?

Kind of difficult for you to try and scare 'atheists' with stories of 'hell' when well-documented research reveals that children are recalling past-life memories and show us that we are likely to be able to experience multiple incarnations in the physical realm.

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Speaking of scars of the physical flesh OP... If you read Ian Stephenson's book on children's past life memories he reveals numerous cases that have been documented about children from various parts of the world where investigators have been able to track down the identities of the deceased individuals based on details/names/accounts that the living children recalled. When investigators researched the manner or cause of death of the deceased individual, they discovered that there are instances where the living children bore birthmarks/scars/birth defects on their bodies that corresponded with the physical wounds/injures of the deceased person whose life they were recounting. This was even confirmed by pulling autopsy reports and medical records of the deceased where available. You can read about it here:

[link to www.amazon.com]

This is the revised edition of Dr. Stevenson's 1987 book, summarizing for general readers almost forty years of experience in the study of children who claim to remember previous lives. For many Westerners the idea of reincarnation seems remote and bizarre; it is the author's intent to correct some common misconceptions. New material relating to birthmarks and birth defects, independent replication studies with a critique of criticisms, and recent developments in genetic study are included. The work gives an overview of the history of the belief in and evidence for reincarnation. Representative cases of children, research methods used, analyses of the cases and of variations due to different cultures, and the explanatory value of the idea of reincarnation for some unsolved problems in psychology and medicine are reviewed.


What say you?

Based on our previous discussions are you going to allege that 'demons' placed these birthmarks on these children's bodies in addition to 'tricking' them into recounting these memories of lives they did not live?

Have you read this book? Would you read it even if there's no mention of Jesus?

Kind of difficult for you to try and scare 'atheists' with stories of 'hell' when well-documented research reveals that children are recalling past-life memories and show us that we are likely to be able to experience multiple incarnations in the physical realm.

A direct quote, from the man in the vid:

He went on and revealed that it was prearranged once for a person to die but returning is an option decided by his Father’s will.

So according to him, there's special circumstances, that a person may return.

There's another Christian woman, who was shown, heaven, and hell. She too states, that there's special circumstances, for those in heaven, to return, especially if they have an important destiny.

So regardless if reincarnation is true or false (a demonic deception), it still then would not rule out hell, if we take these factors and possibilities into account.

Well since you obviously cannot have knowledge of these 'special circumstances' it is not your place to be trying to convince others that theyre going to 'hell' for being an atheist now is it?

Show some humility and respect.

All these documented cases of children recalling past-lives and you are trying to portray this as if it's some unique or special circumstance that only a few are granted?

Why don't you buy the book and read it and then we'll discuss it some more? I'll buy it for you if you're short on cash.

Anyone I've ever talked to that's had an NDE experience has not tried to convince me that there experience was the only valid NDE that one can have or that their experience was some universal truth that applies to every single soul and tell me that I should discount all the other reported NDE experiences....

You continue to cherry pick NDE's that only confirm biblical depictions of the afterlife while conveniently ignoring the rest. You are not trying to provide an open-minded and objective presentation of NDE's to others, only affirm and validate your specific beliefs....

Look at the icon you used for this thread. The smiley face snickering? Are you trying to mock atheists and acting self-righteous in doing so? Not very Christ-like if you ask me.

OP,

Its not because they were an "athiest". Its because they lived a hellish life.

We make our own heaven and hell right here in this sacred realm we call Earth.

When many of these individuals entered their private abodes, they were first deceived into thinking they had arrived in a paradise. As eternity passes – the real nature of this place was fully revealed to them. Others entered into instant anguish. It is truly a place of doom, despair, and unending nightmares.

OP prefers to just label a person an 'atheist'.

1) I have the book.

2) There's a lot more evidence, that does not even involve NDEs. For example, there's many cases of people who are fully wide awake, and have supernatural encounters with Jesus.

In addition, one or two of these factors, may also be present.

A) The person learns things, from Jesus, that was impossible to know about, but then proven to be true.

B) The person experiences a miraculous healing.

Showing this was not a hallucination.

So far, I found this to be unique to Jesus, and Christianity. For example, I haven't yet found, any current cases, of someone encountering Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, etc, when being fully wide awake, much less also coming across veridical information.

A possible explanation, for some, heavenly / positive NDEs.

I take it you are not concerned with providing an objective presentation of the wide-ranging experiences that individuals report? How come?

:duckmask:

Why did you truncate the rest of my post OP? You don't address my questions but instead divert the subject to your own cherry-picked cases. You still haven't connected the dots about how these experiences are specific and unique to the INDIVIDUAL's consciousness who has the experience, have you?

You cannot assert every atheist will have the same experience.

You cannot assert every christian will have the same experience.

You cannot assert every agnostic/buddhist/jew/muslim will have the same experience.

There is no Universal NDE experience and until you make an effort to explore why this is the case, you will not move any closer to uncovering the 'truth' of the mater.

Have a good night.

B.W. Melvin wrote a book entitled “A Land Unknown” which is his personal account of his journey to Hell and back. Bryan had atheist values before his near death experience. He died from drinking Cholera-contaminated water, and found himself in Hell where he saw the truth that he had denied in the scriptures.

Excerpts from the book:

“I contracted Cholera by drinking contaminated water someone had left in a thermos while I was working at a local construction site. The progression on this disease left me in a severe dehydrated state which became terminal. I was at home and lying in bed when it happened. My breathing was becoming a series of protracted wheezing gasps. Looking around the room, I was amazed that I could see so pristine clear without my glasses. The alarm clock ticked. It was ten minutes till noon. Everything became surreal.”

With a sudden swoosh, I floated above my body. Hovering there, I fully realized I had died. At that time, I was not a Christian and fell into a naturalistic agnostic atheistic belief system. Despite growing up in a loving Southern Baptist family, I did not believe in the Christian concept of God. I knew very little about Jesus, the afterlife, and God. All this was about to radically change.

I floated above my body and felt no more pain from the effects of cholera. While gazing at the room, I turned and faced the ceiling. Suddenly, I felt myself drift through the ceiling’s textured drywall and was engulfed in an extremely peaceful blackness. In this pleasant darkness I heard the most astounding humming/singing sounds. I was floating in this pitch blackness listing to the resonances while slowly moving toward a speck of light that was slowly growing bigger and bigger as I neared.

Soon this dazzling brilliant light began dispelling this pleasant darkness in hues of colors never before seen. The light was being emitted by an individual standing upon what appeared to me to be a huge rock suspended in space. This person wore beautiful whitish robe like garments and seemed to be sitting on a chair carved out from the rock. I landed below this person. He stood up and walked down several steps to where I had landed. I wept and fell like a heavy sack of wheat. Someone touched my shoulder. I stood up.

This marvelous person showed me my life course, which revealed I was without excuse. It was then I knew I was being judged and deserved my fate. You could do nothing but stand directly before him, whose robe’s drooping hood concealed his face, and receive your sentence.

As I looked at him, I noticed that he bore terrible trauma to his hands and feet. Around the wrist were gnashes deeply cut therein. The bones clearly showing that the very joints had been ripped apart by bearing a great weight. He just stood there. I felt ashamed.

He began to speak to me by the agency of thought and told me I was to see another land for an appointed time. After arriving there, I was to speak his name and title and see what I would see. He went on and revealed that it was prearranged once for a person to die but returning is an option decided by his Father’s will. Children were raised; others were raised, for God’s glory and purposes when it was not their hour. He stated that I would return the way I had come, and then he pointed towards an entrance of a tunnel off to his left.

Seeing it, I was lifted by some gentle force and floated toward it, feet first. When this occurred, I noticed I was wearing robe like garments. I entered the tunnel and was engulfed within a violently spinning vortex heading toward a yellowish dint of light. Reaching it, I found myself falling from its sky and landed with a thud upon the ground.

I stood up and looked around. I saw a house on a hill, smelled horrible odors, and heard strange sounds. People came from the house and neared me with joyous shouts of welcome. Where was I? Heaven? Hell? At first, I thought I was in a paradise but the sounds and smells were all wrong.

Something was not right about these people either. For some reason they began appearing translucent. With this, I began to see them for what they really were – strange foul creatures emitting the illusions of people. Upon seeing this, two words erupted from my mouth like the staccato of a machine gun: Jesus Christ. I said these two words non-stop till I left this place. I was in a state of stark terror as the reality of where I was hit home.

One creature began to speak to me in a heavy unknown accent and told me to follow it. What choice did I have? It walked to the horizon’s skyline, which appeared painted on a wall, reached out, and parted the yellowish sky. It walked through the torn hole it had made, bidding me to follow.

(The Following five paragraphs are a direct quote from my book: A Land Unknown: Hell’s Dominion, Chapter Seven, used with my permission)

“I followed the rank creature and immediately emerged on the other side of the horizon. A wide, dirty, flat, barren expanse of land gently sloped downward, betraying an endless circular spiral of misery. On the left side of the coiled grade were rows and rows of cubes with more cubes columned high, forming a wall of ten-by-ten foot partitions mirroring the events displayed inside.

Each cube was stacked six high, marring each ascending and descending spiraling level’s wall like a dirty mirror. The wide expanse was a road. Strange entities were traveling on it. This wide dusty road ended at a circular void, highlighting the center of this hellish domain.

The cubes appeared encompassed by thin smoke-tinted, gelatin-like walls. Each cube appeared to be about ten feet by ten feet square. You could see into these but not out of them. Within every chamber resided an individual person, trapped, unable to escape as I had.

Looking through the torn wall of the cube I had just stepped out of, the house and tree within were hauntingly calling my name to return. Perplexed, I stepped back for another glance at this cubicle. I was surprised that it was so small. Inside it had seemed so large!

Turning, I saw the lizard-like entity a few feet from me, reaching its ugly, greenish-yellow arms as if to drag me away to a desperate fate. Boxer style, I blocked the attempt. This fiend stepped back, grinning ear to ear.” End Quote.

What I saw is best described in the Holy Bible within the pages of Ezekiel 32:17-32. This chapter describes hell as a circular burial pit where the dead are buried within the walls of a pit in accordance to his or her deeds. Each individual is placed in a chamber described symbolically as a bed chamber (Ezekiel 32:24-25) where the resident restlessly rest experiencing recompense for his or her deeds (Note context of Ezekiel 32:30) performed on earth.

Inside each cube, I spied individual people in various stages of boredom, anguishes, and hideous various torments. Ghoulish entities were inside these cubes giving the illusions of people, places, and things to each trapped soul enacting the scenes from each person’s life. I also traveled between these cubes to more cubes that lay behind as the journey continued.

The creature before me began speaking to me again with such foul language and curses that I cannot record what it really said for you. I began understanding its speech and could sort out the general theme it was speaking from its cursing. It then began showing me around this domain.

Out from the cubicle wall’s was a large dusty plain or road. Both ugly and beautiful beings roamed in lose packs on this plain. During the duration of my stay, many of these entities attempted to engage me in conversation. I was too terrified to respond but only spoke out the words, “Jesus Christ” non-stop.

I was taken on a hellish tour of this place by the ghastly creature in front of me. We descended to the lower levels of the spiral road as well as observed what was happening inside the cubes to each lost soul we passed. This hellish journey seemed to last forever. I wanted to wake up so bad, but could not.

Each trapped soul reaped in full measure whatever they had sown during their lives. Many entered this pit and into the cubes by means of spinning vortexes. I also noticed another entrance. All those people trapped resided totally alone and were not aware of each other. The only thing each was aware of, were the creatures residing with them and the scenes enacted within their own personal square nightmarish abode.

I would say that each person trapped there felt a peculiar separation from God in the form of feeling banished forever from the loving nature of God and true life. Each knew fully that they deserved his or her fate because each chose to walk away from God and now resided in place without God as they desired during his or hers life lived on earth. God, in his great justice, fairness, and unfathomable love gave them what they desired: a place without God and where each was receiving the fruits of his or her own doings.

When many of these individuals entered their private abodes, they were first deceived into thinking they had arrived in a paradise. As eternity passes – the real nature of this place was fully revealed to them. Others entered into instant anguish. It is truly a place of doom, despair, and unending nightmares.

I felt greatest fear when the beastly guide tried to entrap me inside a unique cubicle. It is here, I was rescued while screaming out the words, Jesus Christ. I felt someone coming for me and arrive behind me and then lift me up.

(Quote from Book) “One arm was under my shoulders and the other under the bend of my knees. Oh! A sensation of love, mercy, authority, power, justice, and righteousness overwhelmed me. I no longer had any need to speak the two words that I previously spoke without ceasing. I turned my head into the cleft of the being’s shoulder and wept profusely against the white garb.

The Person who held me fast said not a word. I glanced at the hand gripping my shoulder. There was an ugly gash near the wrist close to the hand as though a great pulling weight had made this mark and separated the bones above the wrist. A hole went straight through, then the tear. You could easily have placed a finger through the gash, with your fingertip protruding to the other side, but to do so would have been very disrespectful and inappropriate at a time like this.”

I wept as the redeemer carried me back to the cube I arrived in and then through the vortex back to the rock. He set my feet upon that Huge Rock where I was granted a glimpse of Heaven and was told that none can enter Heaven unless they come through the gate which was the robe clad personage standing before me.

Many things were revealed to me there, on that rock, to numerous to record. I was told it was time to leave and return. I floated back the way I had come. I was soon in my room above my body looking at the scene below. I glided back into my body and awoke with a start. I could not regain my breath until someone began hitting me on my back. I was rushed to a Hospital for further treatment and recovery.

The duration of my NDE, was about four hours. I remember seeing a clock when I first left my body stating the time was 11:50 AM and when I returned, it was close to 4 PM. I still suffer several health effects from this. My heart makes a nice clicking sound. My short term memory suffered as well. Afterwards, my speech was slurred a bit but has returned to normal with the passage of time.

My experience has left me a deep appreciation for the work of Jesus Christ and His salvation. I became a born again Christian because of it. I have renewed understanding of God’s profound love, justice, righteousness, grace, and mercy. Jesus came to save that which is lost. You see, heaven is real and hell is real. Eternity is without end. Do you really want to spend eternity without God? Or with God? That choice is yours alone – the decision is yours? What will it be? What will it be?

This is a reasonable speculation, but there's now quite a few real cases that show, why this assumption is not always true.

For example, in some NDEs, people will see the deceased in a heavenly location. They then learn of information about the deceased, that was previously unknown, and impossible to know about.

After the experience, the information is researched and verified to be true down to the exact details.

In addition, in some cases, the person is out of the body, and observe the environment, and people. After returning, they then share with the people, what they saw, that they were doing down to the exact details. And the people, shocked, have confirmed the details to be true.

And I'm sorry, did Buddha and Muhammad claim to be 'God'???? Why would a person have an NDE experience with a prophet??

The neurosurgeon whose book is making rounds states that he doesn't believe any such specific place or location thought of as 'hell' exists. He didn't meet Jesus or any other deity. He met a feminine guide during his experience and her image was imprinted on his brain. He was given up for adoption as an infant and after his NDE experience he reached out to his biological family in an effort to make contact. Eventually they did respond and they sent him a picture of his deceased biological sister whom he had never met. When he received the picture in the mail he was floored to discover that she bore the same exact image of the feminine guide that he met during his NDE experience. He could not have known what she looked like because they never met in his lifetime. His account of his experience does not support what you try and reinforce with your threads. Why didn't he meet Jesus if his NDE contained 'veridical information' to confirm it was not imagined? Why is it that you do not speak of NDE's of this nature in any of your threads?

Here's an example of you not reading, my reply, and why I don't respond to all points. I stated, encounters with Jesus, when the person was fully wide awake.

Then your response, is why a person would have a an encounter with their prophet in their NDE.

So, again, I'm not even talking about NDEs in this case.

So why would the person expect to see their prophet in heaven? Well, for instance with Muslims, they believe Muhammad, ascended to heaven. They believe in heaven, and hell. So common sense, tells you, in a Muslim's NDE, they would expect to see Muhammad in heaven. From the current NDEs of Muslims, I don't see this occurring.

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I once read an NDE about someone who was a buddhist and saw a Buddha-like figure. I've always wondered if each person sees whatever deity or religious icon they believe or once believed in?

Let me further address your point. So why would the person not expect to have an encounter with their prophets, when being fully wide awake.

The prophets displayed supernatural abilities, so why not?

Muslims believe Muhammad rode a flying donkey, and ascended to heaven.

And Hindu's believe Krishna displayed supernatural abilities, and was the incarnation of Brahma, himself.

Also, here's an important piece your overlooking, or not addressing. During these supernatural encounters with Jesus, when the person was fully wide awake, the person at times still came across veridical info, and a miraculous physical healing. To me this is an important piece of the puzzle, that should be considered, unless you want to ignore this, and solely use positive NDEs, as a basis for your beliefs.