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WTF!!!! California Smoking Ban Would Prohibit People From Smoking Inside Their Own Homes!!!

 
DawaSatso
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It is only for condo units, or places that are probably being rented to them and they share with other people.

This makes perfect sense to me, if you were renting out a place to someone would you want them to smoke in it and then have to repaint the walls and redo carpeting after they leave?
 Quoting: Brad Daylight


you have to repaint and redo carpeting regardless. what are you a slumlord?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14665274


Now wait. Isn't this a city affair? That's where we have a problem. Landlords have a right to specify use within the property. Then a renter can go elsewhere if they find they can't live with terms of a lease.

This is a PRIVATE AGREEMENT. Not a state level affair.
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cali-forniacation - what do you expect from the land of fruits and nuts ...

sell it to Mexico - they claim it ... I don't - let them and TEXAS goooooooooo
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


oh someone is bitter because they couldn't cut in it Cali. Got some cow shit on your boots, might wanna clean it off
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I wish they would just ban nicotine products altogether.

I have been a smoker for over 35 years, now 2 days into a smoke free life.
I regret being a slave to a cancer stick for so long.

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Yes, you regret being a slave to your own weakness, and now you'd like everyone else to instead be a slave to your government.

You are quite the winning contest entry.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Not so sure it is my own weakness.

Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and smoking was for many years promoted as the cool thing to do.
That is the era I grew up in. Close to 60% of people smoked at least casually back then.
Ads promoted it, movies glamourized it.
We got sucked into a life of misery and addiction.

Smoking makes you a slave to the govt.
You smoke, the govt collects mega taxes, at least up here they do.
A pack of smokes is almost $12.

Now who is the slave and who is the master.
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03/04/2013 02:20 PM

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cali-forniacation - what do you expect from the land of fruits and nuts ...

sell it to Mexico - they claim it ... I don't - let them and TEXAS goooooooooo
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


land of fruit, nuts and flakes. Granola country.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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I wish they would just ban nicotine products altogether.

I have been a smoker for over 35 years, now 2 days into a smoke free life.
I regret being a slave to a cancer stick for so long.

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Yes, you regret being a slave to your own weakness, and now you'd like everyone else to instead be a slave to your government.

You are quite the winning contest entry.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Not so sure it is my own weakness.

Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and smoking was for many years promoted as the cool thing to do.
That is the era I grew up in. Close to 60% of people smoked at least casually back then.
Ads promoted it, movies glamourized it.
We got sucked into a life of misery and addiction.

Smoking makes you a slave to the govt.
You smoke, the govt collects mega taxes, at least up here they do.
A pack of smokes is almost $12.

Now who is the slave and who is the master.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


You're an adult, right? Life is full of little crossroads of REFINING our own behavior as an adult for our own personal reasons.
Not because someone "made you do it". Nobody made you do anything. You already know better.

American indians use tobacco as ceremony still. You could grow your own tobacco if you decide to do it. That's your choice.

Everything we do in this country is programmed by corporate agendas. So what.

Our slavery is much more profound and is overreach into our personal lives...blame is useless, just look at what is really going on and be at least pi$$ed for the right reasons.
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cali-forniacation - what do you expect from the land of fruits and nuts ...

sell it to Mexico - they claim it ... I don't - let them and TEXAS goooooooooo
 Quoting: SunnyDaze


land of fruit, nuts and flakes. Granola country.
 Quoting: Kirk


when you enter a room does banjo music start playing?
Anonymous Coward
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03/04/2013 02:27 PM
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What's next, ban on eating bacon inside your own home because the smell could offend your neighbours?
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03/04/2013 02:28 PM
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next comes the breathing tax.. a compulsory respirator that's fitted with a meter.
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What's next, ban on eating bacon inside your own home because the smell could offend your neighbours?
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Yep, your muslim neighbor might not like it.
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Something is SERIOUSLY wrong when a country can have one State that can smoke marijuana legally and another bans smoking a cigarette in your own house .
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I wish they would just ban nicotine products altogether.

I have been a smoker for over 35 years, now 2 days into a smoke free life.
I regret being a slave to a cancer stick for so long.

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Yes, you regret being a slave to your own weakness, and now you'd like everyone else to instead be a slave to your government.

You are quite the winning contest entry.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Not so sure it is my own weakness.

Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and smoking was for many years promoted as the cool thing to do.
That is the era I grew up in. Close to 60% of people smoked at least casually back then.
Ads promoted it, movies glamourized it.
We got sucked into a life of misery and addiction.

Smoking makes you a slave to the govt.
You smoke, the govt collects mega taxes, at least up here they do.
A pack of smokes is almost $12.

Now who is the slave and who is the master.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


You're an adult, right? Life is full of little crossroads of REFINING our own behavior as an adult for our own personal reasons.
Not because someone "made you do it". Nobody made you do anything. You already know better.

American indians use tobacco as ceremony still. You could grow your own tobacco if you decide to do it. That's your choice.

Everything we do in this country is programmed by corporate agendas. So what.

Our slavery is much more profound and is overreach into our personal lives...blame is useless, just look at what is really going on and be at least pi$$ed for the right reasons.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I am an adult NOW, when I was subjected to the brainwashing that smoking was cool and hip, I was a kid and teenager.

No one made me do it, but all the cool people were, then wham, you are HOOKED. Nicotine is a highly addictive drug.

Even doctors promoted their favourite brand of cigarette in ads.

WE WERE BRAINWASHED into believing smoking would not harm us.

Now, I am an adult, trying to rid myself of the monkey on my back that is the result of the tobacco industry's marketing ploys.

Yes, aboriginals use tobacco ceremonially, even up here, where it does not grow naturally. Sorry, i see that as more brainwashing. Use sage instead.

I don't blame anyone but myself for my addiction.
Society is now holding the tobacco industry responsible for the damage it has created through law suits.
If you promote a product and say it is good for you and it is not, you can and will expect backlash.

Anyway, writing about smoking and how I was basically tricked from a young age to only see the positives and not the negatives, just gives me more resolve to quit.

Damn you Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra.
It was not cool of you to smoke.
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Instead of all these laws against smoking here and there and gov spending in many ways for "public health", it would be easier just to ban tobacco companies once and for all. That's it.. problem solved.. oh wait they want the taxes...
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I wish they would just ban nicotine products altogether.

I have been a smoker for over 35 years, now 2 days into a smoke free life.
I regret being a slave to a cancer stick for so long.

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Although I dont agree with you that nicotine should be ban. Im with you, I have went ecig direction. The best thing I ever did. Good Luck to you !
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Instead of all these laws against smoking here and there and gov spending in many ways for "public health", it would be easier just to ban tobacco companies once and for all. That's it.. problem solved.. oh wait they want the taxes...
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this!^^^^^^ but dont ban the plant for privat use!
Hemp is the devil's lettuce
Master X

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If it's in your own home and it's not attached to another house, do what you like. If it's attached? Fully support a ban. For years I was unable to sleep properly in MY OWN HOUSE due to smoke drifting through the walls with my neighbors smoking sessions. A horde of people may as well have been sat in my room smoking in my face all night. Then during the day they'd move to their living room and the smoke would be seeping into ours. Imagine that EVERYDAY EVERY NIGHT. They're lucky I didn't kill them.
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03/04/2013 02:46 PM
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yeah

We never talk about the power of the insurance companies.

Just look at all the houses on your block and assume they all pay insurance, of some kind, on that house and/or property; then take 330,000,000 dollars, and that is about the amount of money the insurance companies make every year, just on houses.

Now how many times a year does one of those houses on your block burn down?- take that and subtract it from 330,000,000.

The left over amount; after you subtract, is how much money the insurance companies make every year just on houses.

Just think how much money insurance companies have to toy with your life.
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I wish they would just ban nicotine products altogether.

I have been a smoker for over 35 years, now 2 days into a smoke free life.
I regret being a slave to a cancer stick for so long.

tomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Yes, you regret being a slave to your own weakness, and now you'd like everyone else to instead be a slave to your government.

You are quite the winning contest entry.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Not so sure it is my own weakness.

Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and smoking was for many years promoted as the cool thing to do.
That is the era I grew up in. Close to 60% of people smoked at least casually back then.
Ads promoted it, movies glamourized it.
We got sucked into a life of misery and addiction.

Smoking makes you a slave to the govt.
You smoke, the govt collects mega taxes, at least up here they do.
A pack of smokes is almost $12.

Now who is the slave and who is the master.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Yes, you've made the point that you are weak and want to be a slave, and in your quest to become a slave, you're willing to enslave everyone else.

Quite the winner.

loser
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Yes, you regret being a slave to your own weakness, and now you'd like everyone else to instead be a slave to your government.

You are quite the winning contest entry.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Not so sure it is my own weakness.

Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and smoking was for many years promoted as the cool thing to do.
That is the era I grew up in. Close to 60% of people smoked at least casually back then.
Ads promoted it, movies glamourized it.
We got sucked into a life of misery and addiction.

Smoking makes you a slave to the govt.
You smoke, the govt collects mega taxes, at least up here they do.
A pack of smokes is almost $12.

Now who is the slave and who is the master.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


You're an adult, right? Life is full of little crossroads of REFINING our own behavior as an adult for our own personal reasons.
Not because someone "made you do it". Nobody made you do anything. You already know better.

American indians use tobacco as ceremony still. You could grow your own tobacco if you decide to do it. That's your choice.

Everything we do in this country is programmed by corporate agendas. So what.

Our slavery is much more profound and is overreach into our personal lives...blame is useless, just look at what is really going on and be at least pi$$ed for the right reasons.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I am an adult NOW, when I was subjected to the brainwashing that smoking was cool and hip, I was a kid and teenager.

No one made me do it, but all the cool people were, then wham, you are HOOKED. Nicotine is a highly addictive drug.

Even doctors promoted their favourite brand of cigarette in ads.

WE WERE BRAINWASHED into believing smoking would not harm us.

Now, I am an adult, trying to rid myself of the monkey on my back that is the result of the tobacco industry's marketing ploys.

Yes, aboriginals use tobacco ceremonially, even up here, where it does not grow naturally. Sorry, i see that as more brainwashing. Use sage instead.

I don't blame anyone but myself for my addiction.
Society is now holding the tobacco industry responsible for the damage it has created through law suits.
If you promote a product and say it is good for you and it is not, you can and will expect backlash.

Anyway, writing about smoking and how I was basically tricked from a young age to only see the positives and not the negatives, just gives me more resolve to quit.

Damn you Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra.
It was not cool of you to smoke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


facepalm2
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Shut up, SLAVES!
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Instead of all these laws against smoking here and there and gov spending in many ways for "public health", it would be easier just to ban tobacco companies once and for all. That's it.. problem solved.. oh wait they want the taxes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 300487


this!^^^^^^ but dont ban the plant for privat use!
 Quoting: Wayne interessierts


The plant is a plant! It is funny that the worldwide anti smoking campaign goes ONLY against smokers and NOT against the product itself.
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If it's in your own home and it's not attached to another house, do what you like. If it's attached? Fully support a ban. For years I was unable to sleep properly in MY OWN HOUSE due to smoke drifting through the walls with my neighbors smoking sessions. A horde of people may as well have been sat in my room smoking in my face all night. Then during the day they'd move to their living room and the smoke would be seeping into ours. Imagine that EVERYDAY EVERY NIGHT. They're lucky I didn't kill them.
 Quoting: Master X
Your house wasn't very well designed. If smoke was going through the walls, smoke from a fire would have also. I think that today both landlords and builders are skimping on the costs of making dwellings safe, and the blame is being shifted to smokers.

My mother was a smoker, and her neighbors who were non-smokers never complained. Occasionally the apartment smelled smoky but no smoke ever got through the walls or into the corridor. The corridor pressurization was very strong; you could feel it when you opened the door.

No complaining non-smokers = safe building.
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That sux big-time but why would you wanta smoke up your own clothes/carpets etc...

im a smoker and so is is hubby but we take it outside rather than stink the home up,better breathing as well.
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If they're going for banning smoking inside your own home then sure as hell they'll be soon following you outside too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35560096


I know that its already a law that you can't smoke within 20 feet of the entrance of a business, and a town already attempted to ban smoking anywhere outside.
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Its definitely turning into communist China out there.
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Wanton pleasures, doting love
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In the late 60's the anti-smoking campaign stated they would end smoking in the US by 2000. They did not make that, but they r still trying.
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Yes, you regret being a slave to your own weakness, and now you'd like everyone else to instead be a slave to your government.

You are quite the winning contest entry.
 Quoting: Rorschach


Not so sure it is my own weakness.

Nicotine is a highly addictive drug and smoking was for many years promoted as the cool thing to do.
That is the era I grew up in. Close to 60% of people smoked at least casually back then.
Ads promoted it, movies glamourized it.
We got sucked into a life of misery and addiction.

Smoking makes you a slave to the govt.
You smoke, the govt collects mega taxes, at least up here they do.
A pack of smokes is almost $12.

Now who is the slave and who is the master.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


You're an adult, right? Life is full of little crossroads of REFINING our own behavior as an adult for our own personal reasons.
Not because someone "made you do it". Nobody made you do anything. You already know better.

American indians use tobacco as ceremony still. You could grow your own tobacco if you decide to do it. That's your choice.

Everything we do in this country is programmed by corporate agendas. So what.

Our slavery is much more profound and is overreach into our personal lives...blame is useless, just look at what is really going on and be at least pi$$ed for the right reasons.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I am an adult NOW, when I was subjected to the brainwashing that smoking was cool and hip, I was a kid and teenager.

No one made me do it, but all the cool people were, then wham, you are HOOKED. Nicotine is a highly addictive drug.

Even doctors promoted their favourite brand of cigarette in ads.

WE WERE BRAINWASHED into believing smoking would not harm us.

Now, I am an adult, trying to rid myself of the monkey on my back that is the result of the tobacco industry's marketing ploys.

Yes, aboriginals use tobacco ceremonially, even up here, where it does not grow naturally. Sorry, i see that as more brainwashing. Use sage instead.

I don't blame anyone but myself for my addiction.
Society is now holding the tobacco industry responsible for the damage it has created through law suits.
If you promote a product and say it is good for you and it is not, you can and will expect backlash.

Anyway, writing about smoking and how I was basically tricked from a young age to only see the positives and not the negatives, just gives me more resolve to quit.

Damn you Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra.
It was not cool of you to smoke.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


You make no sense buddy. First you aay you don't blame anyone, then you blame everyone, including Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin. another do
DawaSatso
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If it's in your own home and it's not attached to another house, do what you like. If it's attached? Fully support a ban. For years I was unable to sleep properly in MY OWN HOUSE due to smoke drifting through the walls with my neighbors smoking sessions. A horde of people may as well have been sat in my room smoking in my face all night. Then during the day they'd move to their living room and the smoke would be seeping into ours. Imagine that EVERYDAY EVERY NIGHT. They're lucky I didn't kill them.
 Quoting: Master X


That is a LOCAL civil issue. Not a state issue.

Anyone disrupting the peace health and enjoyment of your home is an environmental enforcement area.
If they're renting you can talk to their landlord and suggest mediation.
Probably you've done some of those things already.

When people jump on a bandwagon allowing the State to trump rent lease provisions you're agreeing to lose a whole lot more you couldn't have anticipated.
DawaSatso
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BTw, in my town already the wishes of the City Council are trumped by the state.
Overwhelmingly the desires of the voting public and electeds are overruled, and now everybody is subject to Frackers poisoning private properties and a dwindling water supply being toxified and drained at unprecedented accelerated levels.

This is what happens when boundaries of innocuous-seeming intrusions turn into a monster.

Think well and long about this.
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Well all of you that are supporters of smoking, go for it.
Hell, sell it to the children, after all, it should be available and no one should tell you where when or what you should do.

For many years, I would have sided with you that support the right to smoke where and when you want.

I'm older and wiser now.

Those of you that put the blame back on the individual in regards to becoming hooked, f*ck you.

When it takes its toll on your or your loved one you will start singing a different tune.
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I want to see someone pass a law banning curry in apartment complexes. It's much more offensive than any smoke, and wreaks/lingers around the whole building.
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It won't take long till my country follows. Talking of 'slaves'...

Long time ago I wrote a story about the 'smoking police' coming at my door. Been hiding my cigarettes and made sure the smell was gone. Still they took me to jail because they've been reading on my bankaccount translating on the things I've spend...

If my home can't be my home anymore, if the only place where I can do what I want, be whom I want to be, will be terrorized too?

I will kill myself...long before my lungs are turning black...
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
(Friedrich Nietzsche)

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