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WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!

 
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A small change at one place in a complex system, can have large effects elswhere..
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
This is the address to the site where you may view Pope John Paul II Tomb, I have know the truth which this video announce for a short time and yes I accept it as truth, don't know why but the Web cam coverage is out of commission or so it seem.

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]
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Go to 1.20 minutes, what are they doing there? 1dunno1
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Shouldn't the priest know, the only ones to pray to are God and Jesus? Why do they pray over John Paul II? That would seem to be sacrilegious.
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Go to 1.20 minutes, what are they doing there? 1dunno1
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I wondered that too, when I saw it.
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
I'm curious --

1) Why do they have his tomb in a church (I'm assuming that's where it is?)

2) Why do they have a camera on his tomb

3) What ARE they doing at 1:20

4) Do they have any other dead pope's tombs like this -- or have they in the past -- is this normal?
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Also -- the last one was on 2/3

One month exactly. Again -- is this a normal occurrence blown out of proportion or is it something new.

And, duh, yes, everything they do is a ritual -- that much shouldn't have to be said. Now, what KIND of ritual -- that's to be debated.
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The Tomb is indeed in a church, they are praying to him for guidance they said, I find it would never come to there minds to ask God, what He desires, but then its all irrelevant as the church which is now filled with the Princes Cardinals will shortly step in to a lock room to elect a new Pope, either they will elect one who will give willingly his place to John Paul II or the six king who is to become the eight king will rise shortly.
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Go to 1.20 minutes, what are they doing there? 1dunno1
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WTH??
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Go to 1.20 minutes, what are they doing there? 1dunno1
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WTH??
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Talking to Pope John 2? 1dunno1

" Hello, anyone home??"

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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
And this is from a day earlier, saturday:


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Go to 1.20 minutes, what are they doing there? 1dunno1
 Quoting: Dutch Retriever


WTH??
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it look to me like they are fixing or replacing the light under the altar
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Picts of it:

[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Now, check out the live webcam now...

It is NOW BACKDATED!

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

22/11/12

What is up with that?

Damage control?
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Picts of it:

[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Now, check out the live webcam now...

It is NOW BACKDATED!

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

22/11/12

What is up with that?

Damage control?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Great find Portal!

wtf
A small change at one place in a complex system, can have large effects elswhere..
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Picts of it:

[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Now, check out the live webcam now...

It is NOW BACKDATED!

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

22/11/12

What is up with that?

Damage control?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Great find Portal!

wtf
 Quoting: Dutch Retriever


Damage control?

On November 22, 2012 Wikipedia cites one event of interest -

– Cease-fire begins between Hamas in the Gaza Strip and Israel after eight days of violence and 150 deaths.
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Looks like the webcam of JP II's tomb is down. Wonder if they took it down on purpose or if it's due to technical difficulties?
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
They don't pray to the former Pope John Paul II, it's only a ordinary Holy Mass celebration; if your'e not a Catholic so many questions will popup in your mind and think that these are Unusual. It's just like we went to a far foreign land of course there are things that we will observe that are unusual for us but for them its just normal. E.g. there are countries that eat Dog meat just like eating chicken, but for westerner it's taboo, Unusual, bizarre etc. his tomb is not located there, there are markings of his name but basically it's not his tomb.

There for what ever we see in the video, its not a BIG Deal... it's like Port Forwarding, you wanted to see your house or family members anytime you wanted when your away.

Chill Friends... NO BIG DEAL AND UNUSUAL HERE..
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Can someone please help me, I'm not up to speed on this whole JP thing.
Are they waiting for John to return in the flesh? As in, John from revelations? Honest question
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Can someone please help me, I'm not up to speed on this whole JP thing.
Are they waiting for John to return in the flesh? As in, John from revelations? Honest question
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Ah where talking about the Roman Catholic Church, I head a priest says once the entire book of revelation had already occur, and that was back in the early 70's lol. Chances are good that most of those Cardinal would lean of what Revelation 17 and 18 have to says right here on GLP simple fact is most of them are so fill with theologies and philosophies that they probably have no clue.

Oh and yes they do pray to the former Pope for guidance, the ill pray for a miracle, haven't you heard, at least 3 miracle were attributed to that dead man, that the amount needed by the Pope of the day so he can declare you a Saint which JP II was declare and Sanctified not so long ago, by Benedict XVI

Oh and the webcam page is now back up, running and to normal time at

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
In 35 years, I'm not entirely sure I've ever seen one person's tomb so venerated by so many higher-ups in a religion.

Visiting a person's tomb to "pay respects?" Fine.

Organizing at a person's final resting place on the anniversary of their death? Understandable.

However, can we possibly see the organizing at John Paul II's tomb as anything other than outright worshipping of a man? I would love to hear the Vatican's explanation as to why people were praying to his tomb? I don't know about anyone here (suggestions, anyone?), but I have never prayed to any specific person (be it Mandela, Ghandi, Joan of Arc, Charlemagne, etc) for guidance. From what I've understood, it is God that these Catholics/Christians are supposed to be praying to.
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Picts of it:

[link to conspiracynews.myfeedportal.com]

Now, check out the live webcam now...

It is NOW BACKDATED!

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

22/11/12

What is up with that?

Damage control?
 Quoting: 2012Portal


Great find Portal!

wtf
 Quoting: Dutch Retriever


scratch that, I see the cams are back up:

[link to www.vaticanstate.va]

Ok, that is normal again.

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Posting so I can follow thread...
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
Get's into Revelation 17, the eight king and how it could be Pope John Paul II (well, a fallen angel, the antichrist, disguised as him). As trippy and far out as it may sound, watch it here:

[link to www.youtube.com]


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In 35 years, I'm not entirely sure I've ever seen one person's tomb so venerated by so many higher-ups in a religion.

Visiting a person's tomb to "pay respects?" Fine.

Organizing at a person's final resting place on the anniversary of their death? Understandable.

However, can we possibly see the organizing at John Paul II's tomb as anything other than outright worshipping of a man? I would love to hear the Vatican's explanation as to why people were praying to his tomb? I don't know about anyone here (suggestions, anyone?), but I have never prayed to any specific person (be it Mandela, Ghandi, Joan of Arc, Charlemagne, etc) for guidance. From what I've understood, it is God that these Catholics/Christians are supposed to be praying to.
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Before Benedict XVI resigned on Feb. 11 there was almost no action at the site, however since that date you often catch a preist of religious nunes kneeling before the tomb it almost like a wake.
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Re: WEBCAM COMPILATION OF: Unusual Sunday mass at Pope John Paul II's tomb!
It's a mass celebrated Ad Orientem (Priests not facing the people). Likely, it's a Tridentine Rite mass. It was the normal form of the mass before the rite of the liturgy was changed in the 1960s. It's still celebrated today, as seen in the video, but in limited frequency.

And the priests here are not praying to JPII, and they are not kneeling to him. If you look at what's on the table, there stands a crucifix. That's what the priests are facing whenever the Tridentine Mass is celebrated. More properly, the priests are facing the Tabernacle, where the Holy Eucharist is kept. It only looks like they are kneeling to the tomb of JPII. In reality, his tomb is at the same time used as the sacrificial table at that Mass.
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It's a mass celebrated Ad Orientem (Priests not facing the people). Likely, it's a Tridentine Rite mass. It was the normal form of the mass before the rite of the liturgy was changed in the 1960s. It's still celebrated today, as seen in the video, but in limited frequency.

And the priests here are not praying to JPII, and they are not kneeling to him. If you look at what's on the table, there stands a crucifix. That's what the priests are facing whenever the Tridentine Mass is celebrated. More properly, the priests are facing the Tabernacle, where the Holy Eucharist is kept. It only looks like they are kneeling to the tomb of JPII. In reality, his tomb is at the same time used as the sacrificial table at that Mass.
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