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OPPT Explained by Darkzen - Official OPPT Thread

 
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This is just the latest revision of the redemption movement scam. All BS.
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I know it may be hard for us simpletons to understand however you need to understand they 'OPPT/us/we' are using the legal and lawful remedy supplied by the same groups who published and enforced THEIR laws on us, the uninformed and unsuspecting general population.
The whole 'money' system in use today is FRAUDULENT.
These people are fighting for you, and you stand sided with those who have financially enslaved you.
don't be such a person ...
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I will fight my own battles but thx for looking out for me lol.
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You dont need to convince this person of anything. He/she/it has made the choice of slavery...and that is allowed in the new system.

Personally im going with freedom...but hey thats just me...
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It is said that we cannot solve a problem from the level of consciousness the problem originated in or was conceived in. Imagine and manifest a win-win paradigm/scenario like free Humans into existence to dissolve the old(current) win-lose slavery paradigm. Its really that simple. "In the twinkling of an eye"
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Thank You Wordsmith and Darkzen!
It is a great work you do. I have viewed the websites you post and am grateful to see your work.

Revelation 18:4-5

(1) I heard another voice from heaven, saying, (2) "Come out of her, my people, (3) so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues; (4) for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and (5) God has remembered her iniquitgoodnewsies.
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Thank you for the kind words my Friend ! ! cheers
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Spread the word, change the collective conscious......
THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me
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sooo, can you provide a sample copy of a letter we can send to the CC company to get our debt forgiven as this person supposedly did?
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if you have a mortgage,
the house secures the loan.
don't pay, they evict, take the house.

if you have a car loan,
the car secures the loan.
don't pay, they reposess the car.

a credit card is UNSECURED !!

DON'T PAY,

and all they can do is mess with your credit score.

however, this can impact getting a job.

this was just in the news; poor credit; ??
no job for you.

auto insurance will cost you more, too.
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So where is the OP to answer some questions?
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I am here !
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Managing “Old System” Actions Against You

With the dissolution of the debt/slavery system, any fictional debt you supposedly owed to that system was also dissolved. Think about this for a minute!

To facilitate your smooth transition out of the old system, you will need to understand what immediate remedy you can apply to “old system” actions that are currently being undertaken against you.

In two recent Wake Up World articles, we discussed a pre-OPPT method of re-asserting your authority on the Corporate Government mechanism (read Part 1 & Part 2). This method was rooted in the knowledge that (1) the former governments were corporations, and (2) the onus is on anyone claiming the authority of legitimate government to prove it.

You can view a real life case-study of this method in Scott Bartle’s documentary What the FUQ? Frequently Unanswered Questions of the “Australian Go…
Generically, the crux of this challenge was:

“You have made a claim on me, and I am happy to comply with your demand… however I would like to ascertain that I am dealing with the right people. Please demonstrate to me that you represent true government as constituted at the creation of this country.”

In this situation, once the Corporate Government entity failed to demonstrate its legitimacy, control of that interaction could be assumed by you by introducing your own Terms and Conditions under which any interaction between you and that entity may continue.

In a post-OPPT world, your process for challenging the authority of alleged ‘Corporate agents’ (including those claiming to represent Government) is essentially:

“I would be happy to comply with your demand… however in UCC Law there is a filing that remains unrebutted which foreclosed upon the entity you claim to represent. You are now operating on your own personal liability. Please cease your claim on me. If you decide to pursue this claim again, any future interactions between us will be under the following conditions…”

Remembering that the agent no longer represents a corporate entity, a Courtesy Notice should be provided to the individual, including the ‘Terms & Conditions’ under which you will accept any future interactions. This both informs them, and allows them the opportunity to withdraw their unlawful claim against you. If the agent initiates further contact with you, they trigger a personal contract between you by indicating their acceptance of the terms you provided.

If a second agent of the same former corporation contacts you about the same claim, repeat the process with that individual also. Remember, corporations no longer exist. You are only dealing with other individuals.
Detailed guidelines for creating your own Courtesy Notice and Terms and Conditions are available at www.oppt-in.com/documents. The power is there for YOU to enact.

Public awareness of the new paradigm will take time to manifest in our society. Until the implications of the One People’s Public Trust become widely known and adopted in the community, please be respectful of those who don’t already know. Eventually, as individuals wake up to the new paradigm, they will simply cease operating on the former corporation’s behalf. But if you need to serve a Courtesy Notice to an individual in the meantime, honor your position of knowledge and take the opportunity to respectfully inform them. Ground-level agents of former Corporations, Banks and Governments are just like you and I; they are/were slaves to the same system too. They just don’t know the truth yet, that’s all.

In the case of ‘legal’ dealings, it is not recommended that you serve a Courtesy Notice with Terms & Conditions to a (former) police officer who pulls you over on the street. Again, they are just like the rest of us… and realistically they are likely to arrest and “charge” you if you approach them that way. Until public awareness reaches saturation point, I recommend that you comply with the ground-level officer, then serve them a Courtesy Notice via fax, email, registered mail… or even hand deliver it. Should it escalate to a court, notify the Magistrate/Judge (or similar) in the same way before your scheduled court date. I don’t recommend you put a Judge on the spot by providing them with Terms and Conditions in court. If you are respectful and allow them to read the Courtesy Notice privately before your hearing, you achieve a better outcome for all Beings involved in that interaction.
Remember:

The process of issuing Courtesy Notices is just as much a learning exercise for those being served as it is a remedy for your situation. Co-operation between individuals is the key to manifesting the new paradigm in our society. In the absence of any corporate-controlled Media coverage of this subject, public awareness of the One People’s Public Trust will only occur through the respectful sharing of information within our communities and networks.
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Isn't a "scam" someone who seeks to take money from you? The OPPT never even asks for a donation. They are not selling anything and they don't want anything from you. They simply saw all the fraud and the negativity and the enslavement and they chose to DO something about it rather than sit on a thread and bitch and moan that no one is giving them money to pay their fraudulent bills...

If you want to remain a slave to Government Criminals, by all means... please do so, but don't criticize those who actually get off their asses and at least put forth some kind of effort to stop it!

Let us know when YOU have come up with a better solution.
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I sent an email to a person in our HOA who claimed we were behind in dues. This week, he sent paperwork telling us he had started collection proceedings. FIRST off, I am not on the paperwork for the house in which we live... my husband had this house before I met him. My name is nowhere on the deed or any other paperwork, however, when this HOA person filed paperwork at the courthouse against us, he addressed and filed against BOTH of us...

PLEASE read and give me opinions, suggestions, hints, feedback- anything!? :)

This is the correspondence that has taken place via email between the HOA person and myself... Please read from the bottom up. The first email you see is the most recent, sent to him this afternoon:


Mr. Sxxxxxx:

As stated in my first email, if you could not produce a contract with MY signature on it, and you continued to contact me, I will charge YOU $350 per hour. In contacting me without a contract with MY name on it, you agreed to MY terms. This is now a matter between YOU and I in Common Law Court, as stated in my original Courtesy Notice to you.

The bill I am sending to you for taking the time to read the email below and any papers you have instructed me to read, which do not include a binding contract with my signature, is for $350, payable within 10 days of receipt of this email. If I do not receive funds in the amount outlined in this bill, my restitution is to take you to Common Law Court per UCC 1-103.

AMT DUE: $350
PAYABLE IMMEDIATELY TO ANGIE BLAKE

This series of emails will serve as our contract in this court.

Should you continue to contact me without producing PROOF that I owe you a debt, I will continue to bill you $350 per hour, rounded up to the nearest hour.

Thank you.
Axxxx Bxxxx

________________________________________
From: Cxxxxx Sxxxxxx
To: Axxxx Bxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: HOA contract


Axxxx,

There is a title deed restriction attached to the title of your house. This deed restriciton is a legal obligation that the purchaser signs when purchasing the house and receiving the title. This document is on file with the county in McKinney. This is a very legal document and requires that the title holder of the property pay the dues to the HOA. The lien is held against the property title.

The HOA recently sent you a set of policies that are legal documents and are filed with the county as legal enforceable documents that set out the collection process and your rights as a homeowner and HOA member. You should read those policies. They tell you everything that you need to do to avoid legal action.

This matter is out of my hands and the letter you received from the attorney this past week is the first step in the collections. This matter is now in the hands of the court. I am no longer involved in this collection effort. You will need to contact the Blend Law firm to settle this matter.

Cxxxxx

On 3/17/13 7:54 AM, Axxxx Bxxxx:

Cxxxxxx Sxxxxxx:

I saw a letter addressed to my husband (Jxx Bxxxx) and myself a couple of days ago, in which you were claiming we owed you a debt on behalf of the HOA. I am requesting a true and original copy of the contract with my signature, Jim's signature and your signature, which shows we owe said debt.

You may send this instrument via email, fax or regular mail within 10 days of receipt of this email.

Please be advised, that if you do not produce the true and original instrument with signatures listed above in the timeframe requested, you must cease and desist any and all damaging actions against us immediately. Otherwise, we will hold you personally liable under public policy UCC 1-103 and Universal Law.

In addition, should you choose to further contact us regarding this matter, we charge a fee of $350 per hour, rounded up to the nearest hour.

If we do not hear from you in the stipulated time frame, we will assume this debt has been taken care of.

Thank you,
Axxxxx Bxxxx
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You are doing great A.B.

The OPPT Courtesy Notice would have allowed you to charge directly upon first reply.

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Do not charge for FRN's.

Silver only.

Redo your invoice.
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I do have the most recent invoices now... I was not going to send a formal courtesy notice to this man to begin with. I was trying to be a little more personal and not as ... legal? I guess. However, I have had other contact with him now. He sent a 2nd email to me in a threatening manner by forwarding my emails to the law firm who filed papers in collections against us. This is the latest correspondence, again via email, again, read from bottom up.:



Respondent aka Cxxxxx Sxxxxx Responsibilities

It is Respondent’s onus and responsibility to provide proof of claim in the form of a Sufficient Verified Response of a lawfully
binding contract, presumed or claimed to exist between the parties. Additionally any claimed contract must possess all elements of a lawfully binding contract including but not limited to; offer, acceptance, true reliant statements of fact, intent and
consideration, and that these elements have been knowingly, willing and intentionally disclosed to Proponent.

Absent a lawfully binding contract, this document notices a contractual good faith offer of terms and conditions between the parties which upon acceptance will form a lawfully binding contract between the parties.

It is Respondents responsibility to inform and advise any colleagues acting for or on behalf of Respondent of these
terms and conditions.

See Schedule A for contractual obligations arising from acceptance of these terms.

Respondent's Responsibilities

Owing to the seriousness of the matter, only a response that meets the following criteria qualifies as a Sufficient Verified Response. Response must:
1. be duly registered verified and sworn documentation of standing, authority, value, and rebuttal of every point
with specificity and particularity;
2. exhibit written delegation of authority signed by the Respondent if response is by another;
3. use words defined within common dictionaries (e.g. Webster's or Oxford).

No correspondence will be entered into by telephone.
A facsimile and digital scan of this document shall be legally binding as an original.

Method of Rejection

No contract shall be considered entered where Respondent does not do or perform any of the actions listed in Schedule A.
No action, no contract.

Method of Acceptance

A lawfully binding contract is knowingly entered into by Respondent or any of their agents doing or performing any of the
actions listed in Schedule A. Action is acceptance.

Terms of Acceptance

Acceptance is with Respondent’s consent to the following:
1. Agreement with all terms and conditions stipulated herein;
2. Unreserved acceptance of charges payable stipulated in Schedule A;
3. Respondent irrevocably and unconditionally waives any and all rights of objection, immunities or defenses.


Schedule A

Currency: *Troy ounces of 99.9% pure silver.
Silver has been selected because the former corporations that issued currencies have been foreclosed.
Collection fees: Collection fees for any unpaid invoices are additional.
Charges
Item
Description
*Rate
(in ounces of Silver)
1
Any claim absent a lawfully binding contract between the parties
2,000 oz.
2
Enforcing or attempting to enforce any prior issued instrument from a foreclosed entity
2,000 oz.
3
Enforcing or attempting to enforce a judgment from a “Court”
5,000 oz.
4
Engaging any 3rd Party service absent a lawfully binding contract between the parties
10,000 oz.
5
Breach of privacy including but not limited to each or any form, notice or letter addressed to anyone other than the Proponent at the reply address noted on each presentment
500* oz.
6
Unlawful physical or non-physical threat including but not limited to a threat of prosecution, restraint, bodily harm or legal action
4,000* oz.
7
Unlawful physical harm including but not limited to restraining Proponent or inflicting
bodily harm.
10,000* oz.
8
Unlawful repairable Damage to the Proponent’s private property or goods instigated by or caused by the Respondent
5,000* oz.
9
Unlawful destruction of Proponent’s private property or goods including but not limited to irreparable damage
10,000* oz.
10
Unlawful claim of ownership of Proponent’s private property or goods including but not limited to sale or auction
5,000* oz.
11
Action against another, not party to these terms and conditions, absent a lawfully binding contract between the parties, causing harm to Proponent, including but not limited to damage of Proponent's measurable energy
1,000* oz.
12
Each telephone call made by Respondent in the pursuit of any claim absent a lawfully binding contract between the parties
1,000* oz.
13
Seizing Proponent’s private property or goods as surety for payment of any claim absent a lawfully binding contract between the parties
1,000* oz.
per calendar day
14
Each day claim is made against Proponent's private property or goods, including but not limited to registering a lien, absent a lawfully binding contract.
500* oz.
per calendar day
15
Unlawful arrest or detainment per calendar day or part thereof.
1,000 oz.
per calendar day
16
Operating or perpetuating any and all private money systems, issuing, collection, legal enforcement systems, operating SLAVERY SYSTEMS of and against the One People*.
*The One People as defined in UCC 2012079290
1,000* oz.
per calendar day
Note: Without a lawfully binding contract in place, any fee, charge or invoice levied on an incremental basis including but not limited to containing any interest component, will be treated as though a separate incidence. Units of increment will determine number of incidences invoiced.
Changes to Terms and Conditions
Terms and conditions may change at any time. Respondent will be offered new terms that will supersede and cancel
any previously issued terms and conditions.





INVOICE

Whereas all Banks, Corporations and “Government” have been duly foreclosed upon (ref: UCC Doc # 2012127914 [link to gov.propertyinfo.com (secure)] Respondent, aka Cxxxxx Sxxxxxx, therefore acts in the capacity of a private individual.
In the absence of government statutes and bank or other corporate contracts, the only instrument that will compel performance between private individuals is a lawfully binding contract.

Per contract terms previously stated below:

1 HOUR OF SERVICE 03/17/13 @ 1:09 PM Reading email $350

1 HOUR OF SERVICE 03/17/13 @ 10:32 PM Reading email $350

TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: $700

PAYABLE IMMEDIATELY TO AXXXX BXXXXX

Should I be forced to deal with any 3rd party you choose to involve, the terms described above will apply, as well.

Should you continue to contact me without producing PROOF that I owe you a debt, I will continue to bill you $350 per hour, rounded up to the nearest hour, in addition to fees set forth in Schedule A.

If you do not remit payment within 10 days from receipt of this email, I will seek restitution in Common Law Court, or seek

Thank you.
Axxxx Bxxxxx





From: Cxxxxx Sxxxxxx <cxxxxx@xxxxxx.com>
To: Rxxxxx x Bxxxx <xBlend@blendfirm.com>
Cc: Jxx and Axxxx Bxxxx <xxxxx@xxxx.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:32 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: HOA contract

To:
THE BLEND LAW FIRM, P.C.
xxxx Midway Road, Sutie xxxx
Addison, Texas 75001
Tel: 972.233.xxxx
Fax: 972.233.xxxx
xblend@blendfirm.com

Mr. Blend,
Please read this email chain from the beginning. Mrs. Axxxx Bxxxx sent the first email to me and I responded as you can see. Then I received the second email.
Please file this email chain in your files for the Blake collections account.
If any action is required by you concerning this interaction, please add the fees for this action to the amount to be collected.

Thank you,

Cxxxxxx Sxxxxxx
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Mrsjab....

Why are you using Federal Reserve Notes?
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Has ANYONE actually succeeded doing this?
I have been searching for examples of success and have none.
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here you will find a knowledgable law study group discussing OPPT:

[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]
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Mrsjab, you might want to delete and/or repost your last email, it has your name spelled out where you instruct them to pay to the order of......for the invoice.

Also, in your first email, it seems you should say, "if I haven't heard from you, I'll assume the debt has been cleared" to I'll assume the fraudulent claim has been retracted.

Also, are you current on your HOA dues or are your using this as a test case in that all corporations have been foreclosed, therefore all previous contracts are void?

Thanks for sharing your expeience here.
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Mrsjab, you might want to delete and/or repost your last email, it has your name spelled out where you instruct them to pay to the order of......for the invoice.

Also, in your first email, it seems you should say, "if I haven't heard from you, I'll assume the debt has been cleared" to I'll assume the fraudulent claim has been retracted.

Also, are you current on your HOA dues or are your using this as a test case in that all corporations have been foreclosed, therefore all previous contracts are void?

Thanks for sharing your expeience here.
 Quoting: Isis One


Thank You ISIS !
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here you will find a knowledgable law study group discussing OPPT:

[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]
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Thanks for the link. I just read through it. Seems a bit biased, one poster is dominating discussion with bias that OPPT is ridiculous, (my word, my bias).

The one post that I found very helpful on page two was this.

Study the Law. Be careful what terms you use. "File" is a statutory term. "Record" is a common law term. The common law side of the recorder's office takes precedence over the statutory process.
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No problem WordSmithhf
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I saw on one of that Ron's guy latest videos he mentions that a couple of the authors of the OPPT are getting/feeling overwhelmed. He seemed to attribute it to people have become fixated on the when and how of 'how do I get my $500 million!!!' the usual OLD stagnant thinking of "when do I get mine".

This of course is to be expected. I can empathize with their exhaustion as the money part should be the last thing of concern for anyone who has got even a small smidgen of an idea of what OPPT is fundamentally about. It is about sovereignty (self-responsibility) first and foremost. This is a VERY ABSTRACT concept as yet for all unawakened people.

To me, it means to simply file the idea of 'your $500 million' away. Let that nourish the knowledge that you are now free. Next, start to think about and imagine how you can proceed as a Free Human. It won't work if you simply fixate on the money and use it to play in the corrupt system. "They" will simply raise the cost of everything and tax everyone right back into debt slavery.

I will be thinking more about this, but my thoughts are please don't fixate on the money people. Elevate your thoughts, create a new paradigm.
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So when everyone gets this money, who will work in the stores?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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So when everyone gets this money, who will work in the stores?
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The people who want to work in the stores.

Or maybe the stores will disappear. Wouldn't THAT be lovely, too?
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Has ANYONE actually succeeded doing this?
I have been searching for examples of success and have none.
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I don't have proof of this, but passing it along for consideration. Everybody, always use discernment.

[link to lightworker29501.com]
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I saw on one of that Ron's guy latest videos he mentions that a couple of the authors of the OPPT are getting/feeling overwhelmed. He seemed to attribute it to people have become fixated on the when and how of 'how do I get my $500 million!!!' the usual OLD stagnant thinking of "when do I get mine".

This of course is to be expected. I can empathize with their exhaustion as the money part should be the last thing of concern for anyone who has got even a small smidgen of an idea of what OPPT is fundamentally about. It is about sovereignty (self-responsibility) first and foremost. This is a VERY ABSTRACT concept as yet for all unawakened people.

To me, it means to simply file the idea of 'your $500 million' away. Let that nourish the knowledge that you are now free. Next, start to think about and imagine how you can proceed as a Free Human. It won't work if you simply fixate on the money and use it to play in the corrupt system. "They" will simply raise the cost of everything and tax everyone right back into debt slavery.

I will be thinking more about this, but my thoughts are please don't fixate on the money people. Elevate your thoughts, create a new paradigm.
 Quoting: Isis One



I totally get what you're saying, Isis, and I agree 100%. Completely.

However, the OPPT trustees set this one up themselves, by making the monetary value a thing at all. By repeating, constantly, that "Yes, the money is a real thing and yes it will be in your hot little hands and yes we're telling the absolute truth when we say that your bank account will reflect a value of $10B."

I understand that things grow and change and evolve, but when they made that promise, they MADE IT a reality in people's minds. If they're going to renege on it, then they're going to have to deal with unhappy, disillusioned people.

I've always been a staunch supporter in what OPPT stands for, but the money part and promises REALLY made me uncomfortable, to the point that I wouldn't share the news of the OPPT ideal with anyone I knew.

They did themselves a disservice, and having Caleb be the one to announce that CVACs are, essentially, bogus and that if we want our money we should go in and just TAKE IT from the vaults hurt the credibility beyond repair, I think.
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So when everyone gets this money, who will work in the stores?
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The people who want to work in the stores.

Or maybe the stores will disappear. Wouldn't THAT be lovely, too?
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Good way to crash the system. Instead of making people broke, just give them so much money they won't need to work.

"I'm rich I don't need to work", but sir if nobody works because they all have money, then what about the economy? "Didn't think about that"
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So when everyone gets this money, who will work in the stores?
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The people who want to work in the stores.

Or maybe the stores will disappear. Wouldn't THAT be lovely, too?
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Great example of upper order thinking/responding. This response does not assume a defensive (win-lose) posture. It portrays a win-win posture. Everyone of us can get there if we try. Really examine why you would want to participate in the won-lose game, it is ALWAYS rigged. The win-win scenario is simply about transparency.

Stores may still be around, although need for material goods will drop dramatically as people get involved in creative life-sustaining endeavors, the idea of less is more becomes radically more fun. But the stores that will be successful are the ones who will open their books, show reasonable profit after expenses and SHARE their wealth with staff. This may still be a little bit of the old paradigm, I'm only just thinking this through myself.


edit: possibly even reward loyal customers, I think that is win-win

Last Edited by Isis One on 03/18/2013 02:33 PM
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"Thanks for the link. I just read through it. Seems a bit biased, one poster is dominating discussion"

yes, I suggest reading that one over and over until it makes sense to you.

trust law 101

you will find advanced study in that group.
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"Thanks for the link. I just read through it. Seems a bit biased, one poster is dominating discussion"

yes, I suggest reading that one over and over until it makes sense to you.

trust law 101

you will find advanced study in that group.
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are there more than two pages? Maybe I have to register, its always a little difficult for me to figure out how to navigate a different forum. I'm only on two.
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A New Document has been Filed.

Link www.oppt-in-washington.org

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