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I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man

 
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I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
For the last few years I'd been trying to fix all the mistakes I made in preparing myself for life as an adult, for career aspirations and making myself a great catch. None of it is real.

In college, I didn't choose a major that would be beneficial to my financial well-being. Instead, I chose to major in disciplines that for whatever reason excited me and held my attention. Stuff that I found much interest in. Those things were Anthropology, Sociology, and Religion. I learned so much from those subjects.

I went and earned a Masters' in Business Administration with a concentration in Information Systems and Management. I feel I'm a very well-rounded individual. I had a brief chat with the National Director of marketing here at my firm and she pretty much told me, without saying, that I have to seek out those with clout and kiss their asses to move up, without saying it. I can't explain how disappointed I felt after that meeting. I wanted to walk out of the building and to my car and go home. But it's not just my firm. All of the world operates in this manner. And when you see it clearly, it's enough to make you go mad.

Anyway, my point here is that I'm in a lot of debt. I am degree'd and I cannot make an affordable living. Just seems like I have to work too hard for every little thing and my soul is tired. I can't find it in my spirit to play the game necessary for making it in the world. I work with my rich mentor and his "gift" for making money stresses me out so bad. I dread coming to work and having to pretend that I want to be a part of it. I'm not even sure I want to get comfortable. I live amongst the meek. If God called for me to go now, I would leave the world without looking back. Without holding on to anything here. If I start to make good money and get comfortable, I'm afraid I won't feel as free and I will be caught in that trap. The more comfort you attain, the more you have to do to maintain it. I'm ready to go now.

I post this hear just for an ear of people who can understand where I'm coming from. I cannot express this to anyone in my life. Especially my mom. No one would understand and think I'm crazy or suicidal. Just wanted to get that out.
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03/04/2013 12:50 PM
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
Things you own end up owning you.
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03/04/2013 12:50 PM
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You are not crazy at all, and I completely understand your 'soul is tired'. You're more 'awake' than most people.

Just don't give up. Keep working until you are out of debt. And then move on to a more simple life, if you can.

:Visualize:
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03/04/2013 12:53 PM
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
give away all you're savings and sleep on the street this very night already - you can do it, if you really want it.
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03/04/2013 01:03 PM
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You need a child.. what you are experiencing is real. Its all fake its all an illusion. A wife or husband and the blessing of a child will open you up to the understanding of love. God is not the creator of destruction death and lies. Seek him and find the love he intends for you. None of that material shit matters. really none of it. When you look into your childs eyes you will understand this. I dont know how to word this clearly and some will say the last thing you need in debt is a child. Theyre in the game. Get out seek love.. Give yourself away..
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I felt the same way OP.... Your soul is telling you where the truth lies and to go against that makes you feel like you're not being true to yourself...

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You need a child.. what you are experiencing is real. Its all fake its all an illusion. A wife or husband and the blessing of a child will open you up to the understanding of love. God is not the creator of destruction death and lies. Seek him and find the love he intends for you. None of that material shit matters. really none of it. When you look into your childs eyes you will understand this. I dont know how to word this clearly and some will say the last thing you need in debt is a child. Theyre in the game. Get out seek love.. Give yourself away..
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That is not effective, trust me.
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
Things you own end up owning you.
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^ This
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
You need a child.. what you are experiencing is real. Its all fake its all an illusion. A wife or husband and the blessing of a child will open you up to the understanding of love. God is not the creator of destruction death and lies. Seek him and find the love he intends for you. None of that material shit matters. really none of it. When you look into your childs eyes you will understand this. I dont know how to word this clearly and some will say the last thing you need in debt is a child. Theyre in the game. Get out seek love.. Give yourself away..
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That is not effective, trust me.
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Effective at what?
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03/04/2013 01:08 PM
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
Well thats the way how it works in corporations and in government as well.
Very sad you had to learn it the hard way =)

The only solution is establish your own company, or just ignore it and work to pay the rent (like everybody else i guess)
If you fight against it (like i did and do) get ready for some serious shit and psycho terror, mobbing, stalking and everything to hold you back to bring righteousness in the world.

But hey thats just me.
This is a free world. You can do whatever you want.
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im 23 and i feel the same way. if i dont get( through faMily connection) a simple job in a farm im going to give up on everything...go live in the mountains or something...anything in nature is better than this. and its not that im f*ck. its simply that ik happier that way! plus a lot will join soo
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You need a child.. what you are experiencing is real. Its all fake its all an illusion. A wife or husband and the blessing of a child will open you up to the understanding of love. God is not the creator of destruction death and lies. Seek him and find the love he intends for you. None of that material shit matters. really none of it. When you look into your childs eyes you will understand this. I dont know how to word this clearly and some will say the last thing you need in debt is a child. Theyre in the game. Get out seek love.. Give yourself away..
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Opie you can skip the child..find something that excites you and become self employed..with that something.. and your desire to live will automatically improve.
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never gave a shit about money, all i wanted to do was play guitar , smoke the odd fatty and have a good time, it worked back then, still works now, im happy. what the fuck would i want money for? i eat, i sleep in a warm bed , have fun , get high, play guitar. its all good
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You need a child.. what you are experiencing is real. Its all fake its all an illusion. A wife or husband and the blessing of a child will open you up to the understanding of love. God is not the creator of destruction death and lies. Seek him and find the love he intends for you. None of that material shit matters. really none of it. When you look into your childs eyes you will understand this. I dont know how to word this clearly and some will say the last thing you need in debt is a child. Theyre in the game. Get out seek love.. Give yourself away..
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Opie you can skip the child..find something that excites you and become self employed..with that something.. and your desire to live will automatically improve.
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lol... +1
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03/04/2013 01:13 PM
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
All I've ever wanted in life was freedom. I do have a fair amount of that, but like you said, you are afraid of being too comfortable. Imagine having like a high powered $120k-$200k salary. How do you quit that? How much savings is "enough"?

The situation they always pose is "if you had a million dollars what is the one thing you would do with your life" and i just want to live and enjoy life. I don't want to work. I don't want to change the world. I don't want the help the poor. I just want to live.

Separately I've created lots of amazing things but I'm very against kissing ass and I hate schmoozing. Unfortunately that's not how the world works. It's like whoever whores themselves out the most gets the most exposure. If you have the best product but nobody knows of it then it's like you don't exist.
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im 23 and i feel the same way. if i dont get( through faMily connection) a simple job in a farm im going to give up on everything...go live in the mountains or something...anything in nature is better than this. and its not that im f*ck. its simply that ik happier that way! plus a lot will join soo
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+10000000
What we are forced to live under is shit.
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Bravo OP! So well put too. Your not alone and lots of us have chosen to walk away from worldly success for just the reasons you state. We do poverty on purpose with elegance and now it seems we were just ahead of the curve. Too many are going to have a long way to fall and be crushed. Have you ever seen a little film called " The Parking Lot Movie? My son told me to watch it and it kinda walks down this road. [link to theparkinglotmovie.com] hf
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
just go live in another country.
debt.... gone!
its what i did....
education should be free anyways

its not that hard.
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For the last few years I'd been trying to fix all the mistakes I made in preparing myself for life as an adult, for career aspirations and making myself a great catch. None of it is real.

In college, I didn't choose a major that would be beneficial to my financial well-being. Instead, I chose to major in disciplines that for whatever reason excited me and held my attention. Stuff that I found much interest in. Those things were Anthropology, Sociology, and Religion. I learned so much from those subjects.

I went and earned a Masters' in Business Administration with a concentration in Information Systems and Management. I feel I'm a very well-rounded individual. I had a brief chat with the National Director of marketing here at my firm and she pretty much told me, without saying, that I have to seek out those with clout and kiss their asses to move up, without saying it. I can't explain how disappointed I felt after that meeting. I wanted to walk out of the building and to my car and go home. But it's not just my firm. All of the world operates in this manner. And when you see it clearly, it's enough to make you go mad.

Anyway, my point here is that I'm in a lot of debt. I am degree'd and I cannot make an affordable living. Just seems like I have to work too hard for every little thing and my soul is tired. I can't find it in my spirit to play the game necessary for making it in the world. I work with my rich mentor and his "gift" for making money stresses me out so bad. I dread coming to work and having to pretend that I want to be a part of it. I'm not even sure I want to get comfortable. I live amongst the meek. If God called for me to go now, I would leave the world without looking back. Without holding on to anything here. If I start to make good money and get comfortable, I'm afraid I won't feel as free and I will be caught in that trap. The more comfort you attain, the more you have to do to maintain it. I'm ready to go now.

I post this hear just for an ear of people who can understand where I'm coming from. I cannot express this to anyone in my life. Especially my mom. No one would understand and think I'm crazy or suicidal. Just wanted to get that out.
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The thread see link deals with exactly those issues. Maybe you can find some inspiration in there. Dying a poor man is not such a bad thing. You can be a very happy old poor many. Don't go now. Give yourself a chance to find what you love to do and to be true to yourself regardless of what society, your mentor or your mother believes. It's your life. live it your way.

Thread: Society's biggest disease: The Achieving Mind; The Obsession of having to Work to Fulfill a Purpose in Life
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You need a child.. what you are experiencing is real. Its all fake its all an illusion. A wife or husband and the blessing of a child will open you up to the understanding of love. God is not the creator of destruction death and lies. Seek him and find the love he intends for you. None of that material shit matters. really none of it. When you look into your childs eyes you will understand this. I dont know how to word this clearly and some will say the last thing you need in debt is a child. Theyre in the game. Get out seek love.. Give yourself away..
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That is not effective, trust me.
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Effective at what?
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Did you read the part about OP being in a lot of debt and wanting to live a less complicated lifestyle? It's hard to conceive how having a baby and getting married is going to help the situation....
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03/04/2013 01:18 PM
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Alan Watts has a lot of good quotes about this topic.. He says how it's pretty ridiculous a person lives life doing things they hate for money, so they can live more life - which is to be doing more things they hate.

Then when (those rare lucky people) reach their destination of having a big sack of money, they notice they don't feel as happy as they thought they would feel, and wonder what they should do with the rest of their life, assuming they have much time for living anymore.
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Obviously monetary inflation doesn't help either.

I live below my means and earn good money, but I'm finding prices are increasing faster than my savings and my standard of living, so I'm perpetually living below my means at a time I thought I'd be able to afford living better.
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03/04/2013 01:23 PM
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
The longing in your heart is that for which you were made: to live eternally with God, in relationship with him and his people. In short, heaven!

We live under the curse of Adam's sin, which affected all of creation. The enemy of our soul does not want you to think about God, Jesus, or anything else that has to do with eternity. (That's why there's so much distraction through movies, iPhone/Pads/Pods, TV and on it goes ad nauseam. Do a quick YT search for "alec baldwin hulu commercial" to take a peek down the rabbit hole.)

You were made for eternity! Your heart is hungry to enjoy real life, beyond the curse, beyond the sin, beyond the those who's mission is to kill, steal, and destroy.

You, dear one, are much loved! God knew you before the foundation of the world was laid and earnestly desires that you would choose life in his only son, Jesus Christ.



And now, let the howling of the rabid dogs and haters begin.
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03/04/2013 01:24 PM
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Better a poor wise man than another rich fool.
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Then sometimes I feel the desire to buy a house.

Why would I do that?

Buying a big expensive house is self-imposed slavery.
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I know some really rich people and the only difference I see between them and myself is the stores they shop at, the labels on their cars, and the places they go for vacations. Otherwise it's the same stuff just more expensive.
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Don't be like my wife. She is never happy, will never be happy. Because she is never satisfied with what she has. it always has to be something more. It's never enough. It's a cancer and is at the heart of all American problems. 4 years the kids are grown. Chances are we won't be together after that.
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I was close enough to ground zero 9-11-01 to see what others have lied about seeing; hypnotized into believing they saw something they did not see; and those who doubt what they saw.
I gave my land away, my small farm, my possessions and my I.D. to the funeral pyres of reality and have lived that way since. "Homeless" my present "refuge" is a reminder of what I left behind. I regret nothing. Do as you are being bid to do. " in the night, when man sleeps, God seals up his instructions" Do it now. :)
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Re: I'm starting to think I want to die a poor man
Then sometimes I feel the desire to buy a house.

Why would I do that?

Buying a big expensive house is self-imposed slavery.
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I want to live in one of those tiny homes/cabins you see on youtube. I don't need much space at all... Too bad there's not a community of tiny homes where you can easily own your home rather than having to work for 30 years just so you can say you own the home you've been living in all that time - all while it depreciates in value.
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Better a poor wise man than another rich fool.
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NICE!!!





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