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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

 
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"Women's Lib(eration)". Whom did it benefit? Surely, if a woman opts to work and/or have a career, that's her choice. But for our cultural institutions to PROMOTE working women, at the expense and slander of women who choose (and are able) to do the most difficult job in the world (raising a family), reveals an agenda at work.

By pushing women to work, and insinuating that women who choose to raise families are of less worth, our cultural institutions have led to an enormous increase in the amount of women in the workforce. This translates into TWICE as many TAXPAYERS from which the government collects revenue. It's all about money. It always is. Follow the money....the yellow brick road.

An equally important benefit (for the government) to twice as many tax payers catapulted into the work force, is the fact that when both parents work, it gives the government a larger role as "parent" to influence and even dictate what a child should and shouldn't do.
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Makes sense . . . and with fewer jobs it makes overall labor costs lower as well because to get a job people have to work for less . . . huffy
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What does ''failure to launch'' have anything to do with gender? I notice a lot of men vs woman here.
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Refers mainly to men . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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"Women's Lib(eration)". Whom did it benefit? Surely, if a woman opts to work and/or have a career, that's her choice. But for our cultural institutions to PROMOTE working women, at the expense and slander of women who choose (and are able) to do the most difficult job in the world (raising a family), reveals an agenda at work.

By pushing women to work, and insinuating that women who choose to raise families are of less worth, our cultural institutions have led to an enormous increase in the amount of women in the workforce. This translates into TWICE as many TAXPAYERS from which the government collects revenue. It's all about money. It always is. Follow the money....the yellow brick road.

An equally important benefit (for the government) to twice as many tax payers catapulted into the work force, is the fact that when both parents work, it gives the government a larger role as "parent" to influence and even dictate what a child should and shouldn't do.
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we are all equal,pure propaganda.If the ones claiming that really believed what they were preaching they would'nt also say...women and minorities ENCOURGED to apply...why not all people?
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My son will make a great husband. He's loyal, hardworking and knows the value of committed relationship. He can be lazy but only when he's unmotivated.
Men are like lions laying about in the heat of the african sun. That is ok.
But if a man cares for you you are his queen and you both bring your soul and value to the table.
You can put up with all kinds of stuff if you help each other.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


the women these days have no souls.the man brings his gifts to the table ie love respect,loyality,work ethic while the woman in todays terms brings I WANT WANT WANT. if he goes to work and puts in long hours,she is not there at the end of the day to comfort him and provide him rest,she is there demanding things and telling him how much he sucks for being gone all day.so he switches it up and stops working so much so he can spend time with her,then he becomes a no good lazy worthless"all you want is sex" scum bag.....yup your son will be broken soon...
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That is quite a leaping presumption you make about ALL women which is just not true.
Having not met this little skank you have conjured up all by yourself in your own mind? Now that's crazy.

I even have the sense after a relationship that was a nightmare not to include ALL MEN in my perceptions cut out any creative reasoning unlike yourself.

It is definitely true women, especially young ones don't understand men at all or relate realistically. I agree with you there as I look back at the mistakes I made about giving a man space and quiet after thinking about a problem all day long.
Even though we both worked all day I had energy to discuss, he didn't, but I didn't understand that.
That is really basic and women don't get it.
Robert Bly said "give a man one sentence or two, more than that he will put a bag over his head and run away".

What you describe sounds like a woman/girl who was either not versed in healthy male/female discourse by her parents and didn't know any better.

But you can't assume everyone in the world is playing out the same script which will end the same way as yours.
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I never said ALL.most yes but not all.
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Close enough. But you're sucking air out of the room.

I may be wrong but let me guess. I'm ok being wrong. You got together with the equivalent of a child. Something about daddy too.
She would pull on you like a child. Then when you pulled away and possibly frequently lost your temper, like most guys when they are swamped by a woman she then became insecure (you wanted to find ways to not be home) and you lost respect for her neediness.
She became a vaggina` dentata. A vagina with teeth.

Not all women are like this. When I was married I never demanded I be given things. Which was fine because I really got nothing for my trouble.
I stand by what I said. HELP EACH OTHER. That's what relationships are for. Someone gives a dam about you.
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as there is only one answer allowed, Id have to go with feminism. the constraints feminism puts on men, how they behave, constant shaming through the media, the law and society ready to slam down on men, are all restrictive factors.
a man and a woman go out, have a drink, end up n bed, she regrets it, cries rape..he ends up in court!
thats one scenario. feminism has backfired, you go guurrrlll!
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"Feminists", otherwise known as "Female Supremacists", started with a reasonable goal, such as "equal pay for equal work". The best example of this is piecework, and that was thrown out by the liberal equivalents from the 19th century.

Today, even incompetent old hags like the one in charge of DHS get to pretend competence, yet their only claim to fame is their vagina, shriveled as it may be.

Boys are not allowed or encouraged to excel, and girls are almost forced to. The natural order of things is upside down, and will remain that way until girls get put back in their place through any of a thousand reasons from depression to war. When they get thrown back in the kitchen and bedroom where they belong, it won't be by girlie men - it will be by savage brutish men - probably from outside our country. The price of defying natural law is very high.

Prize testosterone and all it entails, and shun girls that try to be men.
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wow, seriously? you want that for your daughters, your sisters? your mothers? cooks and sex slaves?

is that as far as your brain is able to imagine? oy. why not imagine a world where men have figured out that they don't need a MOMMY their entire lives, where men have figured out how to be an equal to a woman (not like in your scenario where the woman stays barefoot and pregnant with at the stove), where women and men live and work and thrive side by side because they share similar wants, needs, goals etc. Those brutes you speak of will only be able to land on our soil and rape women if we all don't figure out how to respect eachother. No one will be to blame - we will ALL be at fault.

Being a man doesn't automatically entitle you to a woman who will only have a dream to be a wife, cook and sex slave. Is that all you would want? really?

imagine greater. think wider, deeper, longer....women don' have to be suppressed in order for men to be men. Look at the middle east...where woman are treated horribly by their fathers, brothers, uncles, husbands...is this what you want for the women in your life, really?

a man who wants to dominate a woman- has no pride, no morals and no intelligence.
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Dear WindyMind, was your Dad ever in West Virgina? Because my Dad beat the Hell out of me. He was gone 5 days out of 7 and when he got home he got drunk and listened to my Mom who also hated me, then I got the shit beat out of me.

I hate these happy sitcoms like Father Knows Best and Leave it to Beaver all bullshit.

My mom wasn't saint either. She started taking diet pills and then she started popping them like M&M's, I am talking about RGS or street name Black Beauties she was MEAN.What kind of a mother tells her son, I wish you had died instead of your sister!!! I was only 12 started drinking 2 weeks later, family bullshit. I couldn't wait to leave.

I just mention this Windymind because in your post it sounnd's like you got the same treatment at your house. I sympathize with you. My wife was raised by two drunks also, same story.
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The Maze of life for Men has become infinity harder.

The rewards of working 50-60 hrs have plummeted to the point that only working 40hrs with more free time for 6-10k less a year has become more appealing.

Women today have been educated by the liberal left in most cases creating a lot of animosity towards men in general.

The initial thought of Marriage has become so tarnished, that moving that direction has a high statistical failure of divorce and financial destruction.

In general non minority Men have the largest bulls-eye on their back hands down. Every special interest group is out to get them and marginalize there progress.

The entire system of the economy has been designed to remove free time, marginalize men, break down families, financially weaken progress to the point where NON-PARTICIPATION IN THIS BULLSHIT HAS THE GREATEST REWARDS.

The corruption, meddling of the devious, professional slackers has reached such a all time high. Having enough to get by with some extra, without all the headaches of all said before is infinitely palatable then actively participating.

This is what I see many young people going through.
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Men want to fool around before they marry. They deflower and then when they get tired of that shallowness at 26, then they want a virgin.....and then they find all the "nice girls" are taken.

Hmmm.

One can have anything they want......not everything they want.

hf
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I would agree that's the norm but not to me. I was in an 6 year relationship with a girl who I was otherwise happy with until I found out she was cheating nearly the entire time. So yeah now I'm older and haven't yet met a single woman I'd consider marriage material.
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Yes the fathers should have beaten their sons. Made them hate to be home. Am I trolling your thread? I don't know any of these men you type about.
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Windy . . . You don't mean fathers should beat their sons . . . But maybe they should have given them adult expectations . . . ? grinning
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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the women these days have no souls.the man brings his gifts to the table ie love respect,loyality,work ethic while the woman in todays terms brings I WANT WANT WANT. if he goes to work and puts in long hours,she is not there at the end of the day to comfort him and provide him rest,she is there demanding things and telling him how much he sucks for being gone all day.so he switches it up and stops working so much so he can spend time with her,then he becomes a no good lazy worthless"all you want is sex" scum bag.....yup your son will be broken soon...
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That is quite a leaping presumption you make about ALL women which is just not true.
Having not met this little skank you have conjured up all by yourself in your own mind? Now that's crazy.

I even have the sense after a relationship that was a nightmare not to include ALL MEN in my perceptions cut out any creative reasoning unlike yourself.

It is definitely true women, especially young ones don't understand men at all or relate realistically. I agree with you there as I look back at the mistakes I made about giving a man space and quiet after thinking about a problem all day long.
Even though we both worked all day I had energy to discuss, he didn't, but I didn't understand that.
That is really basic and women don't get it.
Robert Bly said "give a man one sentence or two, more than that he will put a bag over his head and run away".

What you describe sounds like a woman/girl who was either not versed in healthy male/female discourse by her parents and didn't know any better.

But you can't assume everyone in the world is playing out the same script which will end the same way as yours.
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I never said ALL.most yes but not all.
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Close enough. But you're sucking air out of the room.

I may be wrong but let me guess. I'm ok being wrong. You got together with the equivalent of a child. Something about daddy too.
She would pull on you like a child. Then when you pulled away and possibly frequently lost your temper, like most guys when they are swamped by a woman she then became insecure (you wanted to find ways to not be home) and you lost respect for her neediness.
She became a vaggina` dentata. A vagina with teeth.

Not all women are like this. When I was married I never demanded I be given things. Which was fine because I really got nothing for my trouble.
I stand by what I said. HELP EACH OTHER. That's what relationships are for. Someone gives a dam about you.
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I was'nt really talking about me per se,just all the broken lifes that have come from the hands of cold hearted women.I never looked at a woman as a vigina with teeth,nor do i engauge in arguments,nor do i lose my temper.infact when my ex would try to start a fight for no reason I would just walk away.she hated that because she could'nt get me to argue.Im a very logical and reasonable person.If it does'nt make sense ie wasted time arguing about nothing then I just don't partake in it..
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The Maze of life for Men has become infinity harder.

The rewards of working 50-60 hrs have plummeted to the point that only working 40hrs with more free time for 6-10k less a year has become more appealing.

Women today have been educated by the liberal left in most cases creating a lot of animosity towards men in general.

The initial thought of Marriage has become so tarnished, that moving that direction has a high statistical failure of divorce and financial destruction.

In general non minority Men have the largest bulls-eye on their back hands down. Every special interest group is out to get them and marginalize there progress.

The entire system of the economy has been designed to remove free time, marginalize men, break down families, financially weaken progress to the point where NON-PARTICIPATION IN THIS BULLSHIT HAS THE GREATEST REWARDS.

The corruption, meddling of the devious, professional slackers has reached such a all time high. Having enough to get by with some extra, without all the headaches of all said before is infinitely palatable then actively participating.

This is what I see many young people going through.
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Do you really think they get all that or is it possible most just don't get any direction or expectations from the parents, schools or the society . . . ?peace

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Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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IMO it all started going downhill when living costs got so high most families need both parents to work.
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Yes . . . I agree this is an important issue . . . but why boys being more troubled??coffee4
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Because when women began to HAVE to work outside the home, men lost their purpose and their place in life.

Think of it this way. What state would the women in this country be in if men all of a sudden started having babies? How would they feel. Would they feel the need to continue to have children? What for, if the men are now doing it?? So what is there role now? This is how confusion is born and reigns supreme! When we change the roles that God has given us to play. A play must have a director, actors must have individual roles, or you have utter chaos. Same with a ship, a military unit or any other kind of analogy you can think of that has rank and structure. So must go the home!
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Totally agree.

Plus, speaking as a parent of two late 20s men and a retired educator, schools denigrate boys mercilessly. You get what you cynically predict, especially in an environment dominated by female teachers.

But mainly, it's the engineered feminist agenda that's halved salaries over the last 30-40 years and planted this bizarre notion in our minds that you can just dump your kids in nurseries whilst you 'have it all'.

Well, 'having it all' also means emotionally deprived and retarded youngsters who don't have the social and psychological skills to navigate through life.

Another thought - how come it's fine for some ethnic minorities to retain the traditional family structure whilst it's the whites and blacks who have been forced to adopt the feminist plan for family destruction...?
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I think this generation has more "wants" than previous generations so, they may think it's harder to achieve those wants. For the most part, I see my generation as very materialistic, superficial, and self-centered. They are raising their kids to be the same or worse. My husband is a MAN, he feels if I have to work, he's not doing his job. Men like that are few and far between nowadays because so many women have lost their true value. They don't know how to make the role of a "stay-at-home" a job, they've become too egotistical to find satisfaction in the role they were designed to play . Feminism is the root of everything that's wrong with society today. SAD...
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Wow!!! You wouldn't be very welcome at many health spas . . . however, I think you have some very good points . . . the change of roles of women especially their almost mandatory entry into the workforce has had devastating effects on the family . . . however, why has this caused Young Men to throw in the towel but not women??peace
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I'll answer that and I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for it. But women are emotionally stronger than men. Men might be better equipped physically than women, but women are the emotional power houses. Why? because we embrace our emotions, we don't burry them. We learn from early childhood how to deal with them head on. Unlike men who are taught as boys to suppress them. Basically...when going gets tough, the men shut down. The woman find their independent spirit and keep fighting for themselves and their children.

Now with that said, I will also acknowledge the fact that men have been brow beaten to death by society. I.E. the work place, the courts, even their own homes. Many of them have been raised by single mother's and with no father or father figure to show them HOW to be a man, they're left to figure it out on their own or through super heros which is setting them up for failure, as most super heros have super natural powers. Something they do not. Or they will look to male celebrities. Now how much are they going to learn from men who seem to "have it all" and because of this, many of those celebrities have " the world owes me a living" attitude, because they had everything handed to them on a silver platter.

It boils down to this. Why have men become the second class citizens in our Western society? They CONTROL the government! THEY make the laws! What does this tell you?
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once an auther was asked,how do you write women so well?he says,i think of a man then i take away reason and accountibility.women are def emotional but powerhouses?the problem is women all emotion to take over logic and reason.they end up seeing the world in a emotional state rather and a logical one.this causes many problems.
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lol I have to agree with you here. But what happens when you put all that raw emotion and sound logic together? You have balance. It's true. And I will tell you why. A woman's emotional side will bring out the protective side of a man, he will do this by sharing his logic with her about what is so upsetting to her. She in turn won't feel so out of control about the situation and will lean on his strength. He in turn will feel appreciated and loved for that strength and show her love back. The love he shows her helps her to keep her emotions in check and put her trust in him to take care of her and be there for future emotional upsets. Do you see how that works? How that is SUPPOSED to create balance and harmony. God made us different for a reason. But many people don't want to hear that. To them I just say, well...look around you at what society has become and ask yourself..do you like what you see?? ;0)
Real truth is self evident...
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Dear WindyMind, was your Dad ever in West Virgina? Because my Dad beat the Hell out of me. He was gone 5 days out of 7 and when he got home he got drunk and listened to my Mom who also hated me, then I got the shit beat out of me.

I hate these happy sitcoms like Father Knows Best and Leave it to Beaver all bullshit.

My mom wasn't saint either. She started taking diet pills and then she started popping them like M&M's, I am talking about RGS or street name Black Beauties she was MEAN.What kind of a mother tells her son, I wish you had died instead of your sister!!! I was only 12 started drinking 2 weeks later, family bullshit. I couldn't wait to leave.

I just mention this Windymind because in your post it sounnd's like you got the same treatment at your house. I sympathize with you. My wife was raised by two drunks also, same story.
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Actually there was an agreement that mom raised the girls and dad raised the boys so I am talking about my brothers..... you always make me laugh
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Men want to fool around before they marry. They deflower and then when they get tired of that shallowness at 26, then they want a virgin.....and then they find all the "nice girls" are taken.

Hmmm.

One can have anything they want......not everything they want.

hf
 Quoting: Pyractomena borealis


I would agree that's the norm but not to me. I was in an 6 year relationship with a girl who I was otherwise happy with until I found out she was cheating nearly the entire time. So yeah now I'm older and haven't yet met a single woman I'd consider marriage material.
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Yes the fathers should have beaten their sons. Made them hate to be home. Am I trolling your thread? I don't know any of these men you type about.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Windy . . . You don't mean fathers should beat their sons . . . But maybe they should have given them adult expectations . . . ? grinning
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I am up to no good on your thread but the men in my family were not spared the rod.
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the women these days have no souls.the man brings his gifts to the table ie love respect,loyality,work ethic while the woman in todays terms brings I WANT WANT WANT. if he goes to work and puts in long hours,she is not there at the end of the day to comfort him and provide him rest,she is there demanding things and telling him how much he sucks for being gone all day.so he switches it up and stops working so much so he can spend time with her,then he becomes a no good lazy worthless"all you want is sex" scum bag.....yup your son will be broken soon...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35320550


That is quite a leaping presumption you make about ALL women which is just not true.
Having not met this little skank you have conjured up all by yourself in your own mind? Now that's crazy.

I even have the sense after a relationship that was a nightmare not to include ALL MEN in my perceptions cut out any creative reasoning unlike yourself.

It is definitely true women, especially young ones don't understand men at all or relate realistically. I agree with you there as I look back at the mistakes I made about giving a man space and quiet after thinking about a problem all day long.
Even though we both worked all day I had energy to discuss, he didn't, but I didn't understand that.
That is really basic and women don't get it.
Robert Bly said "give a man one sentence or two, more than that he will put a bag over his head and run away".

What you describe sounds like a woman/girl who was either not versed in healthy male/female discourse by her parents and didn't know any better.

But you can't assume everyone in the world is playing out the same script which will end the same way as yours.
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I never said ALL.most yes but not all.
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Close enough. But you're sucking air out of the room.

I may be wrong but let me guess. I'm ok being wrong. You got together with the equivalent of a child. Something about daddy too.
She would pull on you like a child. Then when you pulled away and possibly frequently lost your temper, like most guys when they are swamped by a woman she then became insecure (you wanted to find ways to not be home) and you lost respect for her neediness.
She became a vaggina` dentata. A vagina with teeth.

Not all women are like this. When I was married I never demanded I be given things. Which was fine because I really got nothing for my trouble.
I stand by what I said. HELP EACH OTHER. That's what relationships are for. Someone gives a dam about you.
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it is about give and take,men need diffrent things than women.women should know this.I f not for the built in simple needs of a man what use would a woman have to him other than those...ie love,affection,intimacy,best friend we can tell the things we would never tell anyone else.we want a mate for those reasons.women seem to say that alot to but then they really don't seem to want those things as much as a man.

if it were not for those needs a man has we would'nt ever really need to have a woman around.we can do everything we need to live by ourselfs,as for women....no they need men.I know you will say thats not true,but dare I remind you that the only reason you have the freedoms you have IS because of men.the laws passed to help you came from men.IF this was a land with out law like the wild women would be slaves and nothing more if they did'nt do as men wanted them to do.thats the plain and simple facts..call it sucking the air out of the room all ya like but you can't fight truth.
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Wow!!! You wouldn't be very welcome at many health spas . . . however, I think you have some very good points . . . the change of roles of women especially their almost mandatory entry into the workforce has had devastating effects on the family . . . however, why has this caused Young Men to throw in the towel but not women??peace
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I'll answer that and I know I'm going to take a lot of flack for it. But women are emotionally stronger than men. Men might be better equipped physically than women, but women are the emotional power houses. Why? because we embrace our emotions, we don't burry them. We learn from early childhood how to deal with them head on. Unlike men who are taught as boys to suppress them. Basically...when going gets tough, the men shut down. The woman find their independent spirit and keep fighting for themselves and their children.

Now with that said, I will also acknowledge the fact that men have been brow beaten to death by society. I.E. the work place, the courts, even their own homes. Many of them have been raised by single mother's and with no father or father figure to show them HOW to be a man, they're left to figure it out on their own or through super heros which is setting them up for failure, as most super heros have super natural powers. Something they do not. Or they will look to male celebrities. Now how much are they going to learn from men who seem to "have it all" and because of this, many of those celebrities have " the world owes me a living" attitude, because they had everything handed to them on a silver platter.

It boils down to this. Why have men become the second class citizens in our Western society? They CONTROL the government! THEY make the laws! What does this tell you?
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once an auther was asked,how do you write women so well?he says,i think of a man then i take away reason and accountibility.women are def emotional but powerhouses?the problem is women all emotion to take over logic and reason.they end up seeing the world in a emotional state rather and a logical one.this causes many problems.
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lol I have to agree with you here. But what happens when you put all that raw emotion and sound logic together? You have balance. It's true. And I will tell you why. A woman's emotional side will bring out the protective side of a man, he will do this by sharing his logic with her about what is so upsetting to her. She in turn won't feel so out of control about the situation and will lean on his strength. He in turn will feel appreciated and loved for that strength and show her love back. The love he shows her helps her to keep her emotions in check and put her trust in him to take care of her and be there for future emotional upsets. Do you see how that works? How that is SUPPOSED to create balance and harmony. God made us different for a reason. But many people don't want to hear that. To them I just say, well...look around you at what society has become and ask yourself..do you like what you see?? ;0)
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I agree,but that was the case 50 years ago.thats hardly the case now.now when a man does that all he gets back is"you are just a woman hating control freak...asshole...women today don't really see logic as a good thing unless it blows smoke up their asses....NOT ALL but most.i'd say the under 30 crowd..
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My son will make a great husband. He's loyal, hardworking and knows the value of committed relationship. He can be lazy but only when he's unmotivated.
Men are like lions laying about in the heat of the african sun. That is ok.
But if a man cares for you you are his queen and you both bring your soul and value to the table.
You can put up with all kinds of stuff if you help each other.
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the women these days have no souls.the man brings his gifts to the table ie love respect,loyality,work ethic while the woman in todays terms brings I WANT WANT WANT. if he goes to work and puts in long hours,she is not there at the end of the day to comfort him and provide him rest,she is there demanding things and telling him how much he sucks for being gone all day.so he switches it up and stops working so much so he can spend time with her,then he becomes a no good lazy worthless"all you want is sex" scum bag.....yup your son will be broken soon...
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That is quite a leaping presumption you make about ALL women which is just not true.
Having not met this little skank you have conjured up all by yourself in your own mind? Now that's crazy.

I even have the sense after a relationship that was a nightmare not to include ALL MEN in my perceptions cut out any creative reasoning unlike yourself.

It is definitely true women, especially young ones don't understand men at all or relate realistically. I agree with you there as I look back at the mistakes I made about giving a man space and quiet after thinking about a problem all day long.
Even though we both worked all day I had energy to discuss, he didn't, but I didn't understand that.
That is really basic and women don't get it.
Robert Bly said "give a man one sentence or two, more than that he will put a bag over his head and run away".

What you describe sounds like a woman/girl who was either not versed in healthy male/female discourse by her parents and didn't know any better.

But you can't assume everyone in the world is playing out the same script which will end the same way as yours.
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Of coure young girls today do not understand men. They weren't raised with FATHERS! These so-called "super mom's" out there who think they can use a man as a sperm donor and monthly child support check and then raise their sons and daughters on their own are plain idiots! I'm sorry but it is true! A child needs to KNOW and UNDERSTAND the roles of BOTH genders. And that can ONLY happen with BOTH parents! Period! Now before I get crucified, my hat's off to you single parents out there who have had no choice with this. Either through the death of your spouse, your spouse leaving you, or you being forced to leave your spouse because of abuse. I'm talking about the ones who see a man as nothing more than a sperm donor and a monthly stipend!! It just sickens me!

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My son will make a great husband. He's loyal, hardworking and knows the value of committed relationship. He can be lazy but only when he's unmotivated.
Men are like lions laying about in the heat of the african sun. That is ok.
But if a man cares for you you are his queen and you both bring your soul and value to the table.
You can put up with all kinds of stuff if you help each other.
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the women these days have no souls.the man brings his gifts to the table ie love respect,loyality,work ethic while the woman in todays terms brings I WANT WANT WANT. if he goes to work and puts in long hours,she is not there at the end of the day to comfort him and provide him rest,she is there demanding things and telling him how much he sucks for being gone all day.so he switches it up and stops working so much so he can spend time with her,then he becomes a no good lazy worthless"all you want is sex" scum bag.....yup your son will be broken soon...
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That is quite a leaping presumption you make about ALL women which is just not true.
Having not met this little skank you have conjured up all by yourself in your own mind? Now that's crazy.

I even have the sense after a relationship that was a nightmare not to include ALL MEN in my perceptions cut out any creative reasoning unlike yourself.

It is definitely true women, especially young ones don't understand men at all or relate realistically. I agree with you there as I look back at the mistakes I made about giving a man space and quiet after thinking about a problem all day long.
Even though we both worked all day I had energy to discuss, he didn't, but I didn't understand that.
That is really basic and women don't get it.
Robert Bly said "give a man one sentence or two, more than that he will put a bag over his head and run away".

What you describe sounds like a woman/girl who was either not versed in healthy male/female discourse by her parents and didn't know any better.

But you can't assume everyone in the world is playing out the same script which will end the same way as yours.
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Of coure young girls today do not understand men. They weren't raised with FATHERS! These so-called "super mom's" out there who think they can use a man as a sperm donor and monthly child support check and then raise their sons and daughters on their own are plain idiots! I'm sorry but it is true! A child needs to KNOW and UNDERSTAND the roles of BOTH genders. And that can ONLY happen with BOTH parents! Period! Now before I get crucified, my hat's off to you single parents out there who have had no choice with this. Either through the death of your spouse, your spouse leaving you, or you being forced to leave your spouse because of abuse. I'm talking about the ones who see a man as nothing more than a sperm donor and a monthly stipend!! It just sickens me!
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agreed
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I am sick and tired of having a feminized agenda being shoved down my throat through college. So I am taking it to the next level. I now sit down to pee, I tell my girlfriend 'hey I wanna know how hard it is to be a women and were equal right? so I can now sit down and pee. I wanna feel the pain women feel'. That is how rediculous the feminist thoughts have become.

A theory I thought was funny but could hold some truth idk how stuff is transferred through pee. But Rush Limbaugh said something along the lines of men are not men anymore because women birth control are being transferred back to our water supply so when we drink the water we are in essence getting minuscule amounts of birth control. Wow that would be crazy right?
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That is quite a leaping presumption you make about ALL women which is just not true.
Having not met this little skank you have conjured up all by yourself in your own mind? Now that's crazy.

I even have the sense after a relationship that was a nightmare not to include ALL MEN in my perceptions cut out any creative reasoning unlike yourself.

It is definitely true women, especially young ones don't understand men at all or relate realistically. I agree with you there as I look back at the mistakes I made about giving a man space and quiet after thinking about a problem all day long.
Even though we both worked all day I had energy to discuss, he didn't, but I didn't understand that.
That is really basic and women don't get it.
Robert Bly said "give a man one sentence or two, more than that he will put a bag over his head and run away".

What you describe sounds like a woman/girl who was either not versed in healthy male/female discourse by her parents and didn't know any better.

But you can't assume everyone in the world is playing out the same script which will end the same way as yours.
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I never said ALL.most yes but not all.
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Close enough. But you're sucking air out of the room.

I may be wrong but let me guess. I'm ok being wrong. You got together with the equivalent of a child. Something about daddy too.
She would pull on you like a child. Then when you pulled away and possibly frequently lost your temper, like most guys when they are swamped by a woman she then became insecure (you wanted to find ways to not be home) and you lost respect for her neediness.
She became a vaggina` dentata. A vagina with teeth.

Not all women are like this. When I was married I never demanded I be given things. Which was fine because I really got nothing for my trouble.
I stand by what I said. HELP EACH OTHER. That's what relationships are for. Someone gives a dam about you.
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I was'nt really talking about me per se,just all the broken lifes that have come from the hands of cold hearted women.I never looked at a woman as a vigina with teeth,nor do i engauge in arguments,nor do i lose my temper.infact when my ex would try to start a fight for no reason I would just walk away.she hated that because she could'nt get me to argue.Im a very logical and reasonable person.If it does'nt make sense ie wasted time arguing about nothing then I just don't partake in it..
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Fair enough. A lot of people really don't have much going on in their souls to waste time on..and that removes a lot of people from the prospect field.
Carl Jung said, "80% of the population has Herd instinct,
17% are Individuating (thinking for themselves, they are just born that way) yet rejected by the Herd, which forces them to turn toward those 3% who have Individuated".

In other words, most people deserve no more than the time of day don't bother with their limitations. You can't share emotionally or intellectually with such people whether they are men or women.
Jung's percentages are rough and just illustrative about how not to waste your time with a certain lowered development in most people, who find reassurance like earwigs rubbing against each other.
So maybe you could spend time with people who have a chance of respecting your needs and motives.
luv
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personally i think we should all be working a 4 or 5 hour work day PERIOD! None of this 8 hour crap. which really eeks out to be around 10 when you include travel time and lunch. women having careers isn't the problem.

a lot of it has to do with sharing the responsibilities of the raising of the kids and houshold. if we all worked 4 or 5 hours a day and the ceo's made 12 million instead of 24 million and the company made a profit of 1 billion instead of 5 billion - then we could have a society where there was time enough for family, children, husbands to nurture their kids, and moms to follow their dreams.

having one should not mutually exclude the other. if we wree to stand up to the elite control of our lives, we COULD build a new world where more people worked, and more people were successful and happy.
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I am sick and tired of having a feminized agenda being shoved down my throat through college. So I am taking it to the next level. I now sit down to pee, I tell my girlfriend 'hey I wanna know how hard it is to be a women and were equal right? so I can now sit down and pee. I wanna feel the pain women feel'. That is how rediculous the feminist thoughts have become.

A theory I thought was funny but could hold some truth idk how stuff is transferred through pee. But Rush Limbaugh said something along the lines of men are not men anymore because women birth control are being transferred back to our water supply so when we drink the water we are in essence getting minuscule amounts of birth control. Wow that would be crazy right?
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I hope your drinking it.
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I never said ALL.most yes but not all.
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Close enough. But you're sucking air out of the room.

I may be wrong but let me guess. I'm ok being wrong. You got together with the equivalent of a child. Something about daddy too.
She would pull on you like a child. Then when you pulled away and possibly frequently lost your temper, like most guys when they are swamped by a woman she then became insecure (you wanted to find ways to not be home) and you lost respect for her neediness.
She became a vaggina` dentata. A vagina with teeth.

Not all women are like this. When I was married I never demanded I be given things. Which was fine because I really got nothing for my trouble.
I stand by what I said. HELP EACH OTHER. That's what relationships are for. Someone gives a dam about you.
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I was'nt really talking about me per se,just all the broken lifes that have come from the hands of cold hearted women.I never looked at a woman as a vigina with teeth,nor do i engauge in arguments,nor do i lose my temper.infact when my ex would try to start a fight for no reason I would just walk away.she hated that because she could'nt get me to argue.Im a very logical and reasonable person.If it does'nt make sense ie wasted time arguing about nothing then I just don't partake in it..
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Fair enough. A lot of people really don't have much going on in their souls to waste time on..and that removes a lot of people from the prospect field.
Carl Jung said, "80% of the population has Herd instinct,
17% are Individuating (thinking for themselves, they are just born that way) yet rejected by the Herd, which forces them to turn toward those 3% who have Individuated".

In other words, most people deserve no more than the time of day don't bother with their limitations. You can't share emotionally or intellectually with such people whether they are men or women.
Jung's percentages are rough and just illustrative about how not to waste your time with a certain lowered development in most people, who find reassurance like earwigs rubbing against each other.
So maybe you could spend time with people who have a chance of respecting your needs and motives.
luv
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have'nt found anyone yet...Im the only one I know like me:)
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Too much soy in the diet. Soy contains estrogen.
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
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you need to learn to drive, Honey

Driving a man is no different than driving a horse and buggy, but then you have to be a woman to do that.

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as there is only one answer allowed, Id have to go with feminism. the constraints feminism puts on men, how they behave, constant shaming through the media, the law and society ready to slam down on men, are all restrictive factors.
a man and a woman go out, have a drink, end up n bed, she regrets it, cries rape..he ends up in court!
thats one scenario. feminism has backfired, you go guurrrlll!
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"Feminists", otherwise known as "Female Supremacists", started with a reasonable goal, such as "equal pay for equal work". The best example of this is piecework, and that was thrown out by the liberal equivalents from the 19th century.

Today, even incompetent old hags like the one in charge of DHS get to pretend competence, yet their only claim to fame is their vagina, shriveled as it may be.

Boys are not allowed or encouraged to excel, and girls are almost forced to. The natural order of things is upside down, and will remain that way until girls get put back in their place through any of a thousand reasons from depression to war. When they get thrown back in the kitchen and bedroom where they belong, it won't be by girlie men - it will be by savage brutish men - probably from outside our country. The price of defying natural law is very high.

Prize testosterone and all it entails, and shun girls that try to be men.
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I will take flack from other female posters for this, but the pendulum has swung way too far in the opposite direction and for far too long. Society and this country is crumbling because of it!! AC you paint a grim picture and with misogynistic undertones, but for purposes of this discussion and the grim state we now find ourselves in...I would have to agree with this assessment.
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Yes, I'm a female and I despise feminism. All it has done is make women have to work harder which results in them being way more grouchy and men being afraid to be real men.

So you bet more bitches and fewer manly men. Sad, and also the public school training children to be mediocre instead of outstanding.
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Glad to know I'm not alone, but sadly I feel that you and I are a dying breed. I'll take it one step further. The girls who are raised without fathers and grow up not knowing what a real man is, only know one thing about men and that's exactly the thing their parents or single mother's taught them! That men can not be counted on to be there on a consistent basis. That men are only good for one thing, a pay check and that men are abusers of women, else why would mommy have left daddy? So what do they go and look for? A man who is rich, who cheats on them, who abuses them. And when they find they don't like that, The whole ugly cycle starts all over again, with their own fatherless children. Wash rinse and repeat. Very sad:( Same with the boys. They're taught to emulate the picture of their absent father's that has been painted for them by their angry mothers. And with no father in the picture to teach them what it means to be a real man, they also emulate their mothers and become more effeminate. OR they emulate their absent father, and start the cycle all over again by looking for dysfunctional women who were raise the same way they were.
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
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you need to learn to drive, Honey

Driving a man is no different than driving a horse and buggy, but then you have to be a woman to do that.

"The Hand That Rocks The Cradle Is The Hand That Rules The World"
[link to www.youtube.com]

Next:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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women have half the money and all the pussy...then they get a man and soon they have all the money and the pussy...old joke...
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With loser men so much around (I don't see them anywhere) it is even more important for women to get higher education and earn a good living for themselves.
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This isn't the 50's. Young men have realized that there is no point in busting their ass to get a high paying job just so a woman can leach off of them.

If a guy can go through life on a low paying job, play video games/do things he wants to and be happy doing it...then more power to him.

I was dating a chick a few months ago who made more $ than I did but fully expected me to pay for our dates, buy her things, etc. It blew me mind and the relationship didn't last too long. Women bring men down. It's a sad reality but it's true.
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So why don't they do it for themselves? Forget about blaming women for a minute....Why don't these young men you are describing develop themselves for their own well being?
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Because they don't know how. They have been raised by women. They did not have the benefit of a father to teach them how to be real men and how to choose healthy relationships. They grow up emulating their mothers.
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"Women's Lib(eration)". Whom did it benefit? Surely, if a woman opts to work and/or have a career, that's her choice. But for our cultural institutions to PROMOTE working women, at the expense and slander of women who choose (and are able) to do the most difficult job in the world (raising a family), reveals an agenda at work.

By pushing women to work, and insinuating that women who choose to raise families are of less worth, our cultural institutions have led to an enormous increase in the amount of women in the workforce. This translates into TWICE as many TAXPAYERS from which the government collects revenue. It's all about money. It always is. Follow the money....the yellow brick road.

An equally important benefit (for the government) to twice as many tax payers catapulted into the work force, is the fact that when both parents work, it gives the government a larger role as "parent" to influence and even dictate what a child should and shouldn't do.
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THIS!!!

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