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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

 
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How do you know there are these unlaunched young men? Do you have numbers? Is it 10 % of all young men or how many is it?
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Some related data . . .

Sharing a household with family members is a time-honored strategy for stretching thin resources (Hareven 1990; Ruggles 1987) and young adults in the U.S. may have coped with challenging economic circumstances during the recent recession by living with parents, relatives or friends. There is some evidence that this is the case. For example, a Pew Report reported that 1 in 10 young adults moved back in with their parents as a result of the recession (Pew Research Center 2009). More recently, a Census report indicated that the number of 18 to 24 year olds residing in their parent’s household increased by 5.2 percent between 2007 and 2010 while the number of 25 to 34 year olds living in their parent(s) household increased by 17.5 percent between 2007 and 2010 (Mykyta and Macartney 2012).

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According to that it seems to be financially motivated. This is a depression even though the word has not been much used.
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I think its a combination of


3) Video games have created a generation of zoned out addicted young men
4) The economy is stupid ( not interesting enough for alot of people to be doing the same Boring job,day in day out )
10) Alcohol, Drugs and Pornography
11) TV and Movie all together,plus all the signals all electronics are emitting and we are receving day in day out 24/7,its doing something to us.
12) Public Schools
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How do you know there are these unlaunched young men? Do you have numbers? Is it 10 % of all young men or how many is it?
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The only solution is to give every young man a gang of grip and a chart on decisions they should make.

That, or a really, really large cannon.
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You lost me completely, try again.
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Oh, I am saying they should all join the Navy. Yes, the Navy.
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What is up with that elephant? Is just a bejeweled elephant or does it mean something?
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I think its a combination of


3) Video games have created a generation of zoned out addicted young men
4) The economy is stupid ( not interesting enough for alot of people to be doing the same Boring job,day in day out )
10) Alcohol, Drugs and Pornography
11) TV and Movie all together,plus all the signals all electronics are emitting and we are receving day in day out 24/7,its doing something to us.
12) Public Schools
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Oh, maybe they are the main targets of the smart meters.
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This isn't Star Trek, this isn't some sci-fi shithole, there is only one possible conclusion in the end of this.
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My theories are just as valid as yours . . . coffee4Free will has been a concept of human philosophy and religion for thousands of years . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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What is up with that elephant? Is just a bejeweled elephant or does it mean something?
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Well if I don't know wtf it's about, you won't either...
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I think you are too hung up on video games it's FAR easier to use the Internet to procrastinate plus it has quasi social interactions which makes it even more addictive.
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What is up with that elephant? Is just a bejeweled elephant or does it mean something?
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Well if I don't know wtf it's about, you won't either...
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Thanks for that, for a 2nd OP you suck.
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To the OP;

The difference is that my 'theories' are the result of concise and logical reasoning, whereas you mix fantasy with the popular opinion of 'learned' men, as a result of your skewed and self-centred perspective.

You conform with popular opinion because of a need to remain in intellectual standing with the intellectual standard of the day.

You are a sheep, and not the good kind.

You're a trained parrot.
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I think you are too hung up on video games it's FAR easier to use the Internet to procrastinate plus it has quasi social interactions which makes it even more addictive.
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Good point . . . grinning
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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To the OP;

The difference is that my 'theories' are the result of concise and logical reasoning, whereas you mix fantasy with the popular opinion of 'learned' men, as a result of your skewed and self-centred perspective.

You conform with popular opinion because of a need to remain in intellectual standing with the intellectual standard of the day.

You are a sheep, and not the good kind.

You're a trained parrot.
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


You the guy that says there is no free will? That would mean that everything you just typed was thought and forced through you to the thread. So you were forced to have the opinion that no one has an opinion. Why bother?
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To the OP;

The difference is that my 'theories' are the result of concise and logical reasoning, whereas you mix fantasy with the popular opinion of 'learned' men, as a result of your skewed and self-centred perspective.

You conform with popular opinion because of a need to remain in intellectual standing with the intellectual standard of the day.

You are a sheep, and not the good kind.

You're a trained parrot.
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


OP to wooz . . . my theories are based on a review of String Theory, Super String Theory, and M-Theory along with decades of theological studies . . . not to mention my own personal opinions and theory . . . peace
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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What is up with that elephant? Is just a bejeweled elephant or does it mean something?
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Well if I don't know wtf it's about, you won't either...
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Thanks for that, for a 2nd OP you suck.
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Blahahaha. OK Lisa...
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To the OP;

The difference is that my 'theories' are the result of concise and logical reasoning, whereas you mix fantasy with the popular opinion of 'learned' men, as a result of your skewed and self-centred perspective.

You conform with popular opinion because of a need to remain in intellectual standing with the intellectual standard of the day.

You are a sheep, and not the good kind.

You're a trained parrot.
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OP to wooz . . . my theories are based on a review of String Theory, Super String Theory, and M-Theory along with decades of theological studies . . . not to mention my own personal opinions and theory . . . peace
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I'm working on G-String Theory over here...

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To the OP;

The difference is that my 'theories' are the result of concise and logical reasoning, whereas you mix fantasy with the popular opinion of 'learned' men, as a result of your skewed and self-centred perspective.

You conform with popular opinion because of a need to remain in intellectual standing with the intellectual standard of the day.

You are a sheep, and not the good kind.

You're a trained parrot.
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


You the guy that says there is no free will? That would mean that everything you just typed was thought and forced through you to the thread. So you were forced to have the opinion that no one has an opinion. Why bother?
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Good points Windy . . . applause2
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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To the OP;

The difference is that my 'theories' are the result of concise and logical reasoning, whereas you mix fantasy with the popular opinion of 'learned' men, as a result of your skewed and self-centred perspective.

You conform with popular opinion because of a need to remain in intellectual standing with the intellectual standard of the day.

You are a sheep, and not the good kind.

You're a trained parrot.
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


OP to wooz . . . my theories are based on a review of String Theory, Super String Theory, and M-Theory along with decades of theological studies . . . not to mention my own personal opinions and theory . . . peace
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I'm working on G-String Theory over here...

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1rof1
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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I don't understand why ''Everyone has given up'' has the ''young men gave up first'' added to the end of it. I'm 23 years old and I haven't seen any kind of leadership from the earlier generations.
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Windy.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, out of all of my post, that 'no one has an opinion'. An opinion, yes, based on a fallacy.

If it does not add up to the ultimate conclusion then you are in fact, in error.

And your entire perspective will be based on error.

In short, you have failed, because you are, in error, and until you have corrected this error you will remain in error.
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I don't understand why ''Everyone has given up'' has the ''young men gave up first'' added to the end of it. I'm 23 years old and I haven't seen any kind of leadership from the earlier generations.
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Cannot argue about lack of leadership . . . you will most likely have to lead yourselves . . . God's Speed on that one . . . ohno
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Windy.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, out of all of my post, that 'no one has an opinion'. An opinion, yes, based on a fallacy.

If it does not add up to the ultimate conclusion then you are in fact, in error.

And your entire perspective will be based on error.

In short, you have failed, because you are, in error, and until you have corrected this error you will remain in error.
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


Smiley
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Windy.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion, out of all of my post, that 'no one has an opinion'. An opinion, yes, based on a fallacy.

If it does not add up to the ultimate conclusion then you are in fact, in error.

And your entire perspective will be based on error.

In short, you have failed, because you are, in error, and until you have corrected this error you will remain in error.
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


And where was her logic in error . . . did you not say there was no free wil? . . .. maybe you need to define your concept of free will . . . huffy
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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OP;

Would anyone willing commit error, if they know that they are in error?

Do you believe it was her 'will' to err?
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I don't understand why ''Everyone has given up'' has the ''young men gave up first'' added to the end of it. I'm 23 years old and I haven't seen any kind of leadership from the earlier generations.
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Cannot argue about lack of leadership . . . you will most likely have to lead yourselves . . . God's Speed on that one . . . ohno
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That's how i've been seeing it... Even thought about that when I posted earlier.

It's hard.... It really is... To feel like you have the entire weight of the world on your shoulders and that no one other than God can help you see through it.

Other than GLP where there's so much hate and division between people, i'm pretty much alone in my thoughts.

It doesn't help that most things I know of get swept under the rug and stored in the back of my mind because anyone I relay it to either dismisses it as crazy or too complex for <I want to use words like 'some' and 'most' but it's really...> everyone I meet outside of this box, to understand. Most just listen to my words but hear no message.

Hell, even father figures and older bunches alike are mostly sound asleep, zoned into their tvs, still arguing about mediocre, mundane things.

Most of my life has been spent shaking my head saying 'really....?

Age doesn't make the difference either... You can be 70 years old with the mind of a child (not a compliment) or 10 years old with the mind of a genius.

My mother's boyfriend is 61 years old and he tells me that it's me and my generation that are going to have to fight and rebuild... and that his generation has ''done their part already''... Like wtf, thanks world, as if I knowingly choose to be born, ya know.
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Things are absolutely hopeless for men. Even the "successful" ones.

Let's see...

I'd say most men have completely given up on life in general and do anything to escape, because there literally is no other option. Seriously, what the fuck is the point in even trying? Either you try and fail, feel low about yourself, depressed...slowly go insane. Or you play video games or do drugs to escape. They are really the only two options I can see. If you do become "successful" you make lots of money to keep some bitch interested for a while until the money dries up or she finds someone better and she leaves with half of your shit.

And deep down, why should the woman care? If the money isn't coming in like she expected it to, she can just flash her tits at some bar and get whatever or whoever she wants. There's always something better. Yeah, she probably has a much higher paying job than the guys that pick up on her, but they'll buy her drinks for the whole night anyway, just because. And of course, princess has been raised as a princess, so free gifts all night is to be expected.

Meanwhile, guys that do try for a while in this shit system end up getting shit all over. The days of one man paying all the bills and still having enough cash left over for recreation is over. That's what's called "rich" in today's society. Men can contribute some cash, but overall, they really aren't totally necessary anymore.

Brains are certainly looked down upon but as long as the guy is a hardass gangsta and has a shit load of cash, the pussy flows like wine.

How many guys with actual degrees are unemployed? Shit they may be the most creative motherfuckers in the world, but they're unemployed and to most people that makes them losers and worthless.

Fuck this shit fucking society. I fucking give up. If that makes me a coward, then I guess I'm a coward. Call me whatever the fuck you want. From now I take care of me and only me. I escape as much as possible. And fuck relationships. I'd be committing the most heinous of crimes against humanity if I brought a poor kid into the fucked up hell of a world.
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STOP BOTHERING WOMEN OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE!
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OP;

Would anyone willing commit error, if they know that they are in error?

Do you believe it was her 'will' to err?
 Quoting: wooz 3919813


No . . . . because I believe in Free Will and therefore would not try to err . . . but if I didn't . . . I would commit error because I was destined too . . . because I wouldn't have a choice . . . verycool
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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yoda

Do or do not there is no try.

OP.

Have therefore 'willingly' failed?
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You can't say that previous generations didn't pass on a heap of debt to this one or that they themselves didn't want to tighten their belt so that it wouldn't happen. This generation doesn't even get clean air or water or earth but the greedy assholes making money polluting the planet are going to die before it hurts them. Of course they have families to think about and they will be provided for financially but really they have to breathe the air, drink the water and depend on the land for food too.

I was just thinking about what is handed to this generation and future generations. It's depressing and maybe they deserved it as the Buddhists would say, that is karma, it is all karma. If we knew we were coming back again would we be more careful about how we left it?
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I don't understand why ''Everyone has given up'' has the ''young men gave up first'' added to the end of it. I'm 23 years old and I haven't seen any kind of leadership from the earlier generations.
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Cannot argue about lack of leadership . . . you will most likely have to lead yourselves . . . God's Speed on that one . . . ohno
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That's how i've been seeing it... Even thought about that when I posted earlier.

It's hard.... It really is... To feel like you have the entire weight of the world on your shoulders and that no one other than God can help you see through it.

Other than GLP where there's so much hate and division between people, i'm pretty much alone in my thoughts.

It doesn't help that most things I know of get swept under the rug and stored in the back of my mind because anyone I relay it to either dismisses it as crazy or too complex for <I want to use words like 'some' and 'most' but it's really...> everyone I meet outside of this box, to understand. Most just listen to my words but hear no message.

Hell, even father figures and older bunches alike are mostly sound asleep,
zoned into their tvs, still arguing about mediocre, mundane things.

Most of my life has been spent shaking my head saying 'really....?

Age doesn't make the difference either... You can be 70 years old with the mind of a child (not a compliment) or 10 years old with the mind of a genius.

My mother's boyfriend is 61 years old and he tells me that it's me and my generation that are going to have to fight and rebuild... and that his generation has ''done their part already''... Like wtf, thanks world, as if I knowingly choose to be born, ya know.
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Profound thoughts . . . but they are not unique . . . I thought the same when I was your age . . . if you live long enough . . . you fight some . . . you rest some . . . and you finally try to find a bit of happiness along the way . . . sometimes that is all you can do . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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yoda

Do or do not there is no try.

OP.

Have therefore 'willingly' failed?
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Karma trump Yoda man.
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yoda

Do or do not there is no try.

OP.

Have therefore 'willingly' failed?
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The man who speaks in riddles will always be asked to explain himself . . . you must have been required to speak so because you had no choice . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B

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