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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

 
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young boys are getting suspended from schools for drawing pictures of guns or having a broken pencil sharpener
in their pencil case.

nuff said

its a mix of many of those things

I dont realy blame computer games though because I havent met a kid yet who would not thrive on real world activity
if it was available.

the problem is it isnt

to many regulations to many frivolous law suits
very little chance for a successful marriage
or to be a part of their kids lives.
very little chance to even build their own business
and if they do chances are the tax man will get most of the
wealth anyway

most young men just say well F it there is a new game coming out.
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Sounds like men have no drive or will to overcome the challenges . . . that was not the case in my parent's generation or even my generation . . . what happened to the will to fight???huffy
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stupid women...The sexes are intended to compliment each other not war with each other. Women's strengths are men's weaknesses and vice versa.
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An educated male with no job experience has absolutely no chance in this job market. He is over-qualified for unskilled labor such as fast food and he is under-qualified for skilled labor because there are many more experienced candidates in need of a job.

There used to be a starting place for this sector in semi-skilled blue collar labor, but that has dwindled due to the lack of manufacturing in the country. This sector of the population will not have their chance until the older generation starts retiring, which is another issue altogether since the retirement age keeps moving up.

Women do not feel the effects as significantly because they are treated as "minorities" in the workplace, especially in traditionally male roles.
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As a young man trying to find my way in this world, it's not as easy as it sounds. I work dead end jobs with no future in sight. I've went to trade schools to get a decent job with O.K pay and alright benefits, only to be passed up on jobs for older men, with more experience. I am currently working for minimum wage, struggling to figure out what's next. I think I'm going to go to a legit college and go for medicine or a lawyer, somewhere along those lines. Most of my friends are in the same boat also. Some are just morons, others are just people waiting for their chance to prove their worth. Eventually I'll get it together, it only can't come soon enough.
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i think alot see theres no fucking point. they see what society is, and actively avoid it simply because FUCK IT. you live and die. do the fuck you want.

its all a dumb fucking convoluted game that shouldnt even be the way it is.
Even if you win, youre still a rat.

as for why its young men and not women, is fucking obvious, because women have life on easy mode. not to mention almost 100% of women in 2013 are completely fucking brainwashed sheep.
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So do coffee4you think this generation has it harder now than previous generations . . ??
 Quoting: George B
I think this generation has more "wants" than previous generations so, they may think it's harder to achieve those wants. For the most part, I see my generation as very materialistic, superficial, and self-centered. They are raising their kids to be the same or worse. My husband is a MAN, he feels if I have to work, he's not doing his job. Men like that are few and far between nowadays because so many women have lost their true value. They don't know how to make the role of a "stay-at-home" a job, they've become too egotistical to find satisfaction in the role they were designed to play . Feminism is the root of everything that's wrong with society today. SAD...
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Wow!!! You wouldn't be very welcome at many health spas . . . however, I think you have some very good points . . . the change of roles of women especially their almost mandatory entry into the workforce has had devastating effects on the family . . . however, why has this caused Young Men to throw in the towel but not women??peace
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Screw the Government. They only want those that succumb to succeed.
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Women get hired into internships over men because the people doing the hiring want sex. Internships lead to jobs, and men aren't getting good quality internships, so they're not getting jobs. Why hire a dude as an intern when you can hire some 22 year old blonde with a nice rack and willing to give up some ass, or introduce you to her hot friends?

On top of all of that, women get men throwing themselves at them, willing to support and do anything for them on a daily basis. Life as a woman is a cake walk as long as you're semi attractive, and that is making it hard and harder for males.

Sorry, but that's how the modern American culture looks at life.
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An educated male with no job experience has absolutely no chance in this job market. He is over-qualified for unskilled labor such as fast food and he is under-qualified for skilled labor because there are many more experienced candidates in need of a job.

There used to be a starting place for this sector in semi-skilled blue collar labor, but that has dwindled due to the lack of manufacturing in the country. This sector of the population will not have their chance until the older generation starts retiring, which is another issue altogether since the retirement age keeps moving up.

Women do not feel the effects as significantly because they are treated as "minorities" in the workplace, especially in traditionally male roles.
 Quoting: DevilsAdvocate


I think you have some good points here . . . I do think the economic situation could have disproportionately affected men over women . . . blackeye

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Women get hired into internships over men because the people doing the hiring want sex. Internships lead to jobs, and men aren't getting good quality internships, so they're not getting jobs. Why hire a dude as an intern when you can hire some 22 year old blonde with a nice rack and willing to give up some ass, or introduce you to her hot friends?

On top of all of that, women get men throwing themselves at them, willing to support and do anything for them on a daily basis. Life as a woman is a cake walk as long as you're semi attractive, and that is making it hard and harder for males.

Sorry, but that's how the modern American culture looks at life.
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You may have some points here . . . when there is a critical shortage of positions . . . all things being equal the more attractive person usually gets the job . . . In my day it was the other way . . . a male was hired because it was thought he was the major bread winner and needed the job first . . . I think both were wrong but that is how the world sometimes works . . . does it not . . . huffy
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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All of the above?
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Women support each other much more than men do. It keeps their morale up. Men are more vulnerable to depression because it's seen as weak for them to need support. They're more likely to retreat into alcohol, drugs and video games.
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i think alot see theres no fucking point. they see what society is, and actively avoid it simply because FUCK IT. you live and die. do the fuck you want.

its all a dumb fucking convoluted game that shouldnt even be the way it is.
Even if you win, youre still a rat.

as for why its young men and not women, is fucking obvious, because women have life on easy mode. not to mention almost 100% of women in 2013 are completely fucking brainwashed sheep.
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So do coffee4you think this generation has it harder now than previous generations . . ??
 Quoting: George B
I think this generation has more "wants" than previous generations so, they may think it's harder to achieve those wants. For the most part, I see my generation as very materialistic, superficial, and self-centered. They are raising their kids to be the same or worse. My husband is a MAN, he feels if I have to work, he's not doing his job. Men like that are few and far between nowadays because so many women have lost their true value. They don't know how to make the role of a "stay-at-home" a job, they've become too egotistical to find satisfaction in the role they were designed to play . Feminism is the root of everything that's wrong with society today. SAD...
 Quoting: Melrox


Wow!!! You wouldn't be very welcome at many health spas . . . however, I think you have some very good points . . . the change of roles of women especially their almost mandatory entry into the workforce has had devastating effects on the family . . . however, why has this caused Young Men to throw in the towel but not women??peace
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I think women feel the need to prove themselves more. It leaves men confused about their own role in life. If women are more than willing to take on everything to prove "something" to "someone"...what's the man left to do but sit back and watch?
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Women get hired into internships over men because the people doing the hiring want sex. Internships lead to jobs, and men aren't getting good quality internships, so they're not getting jobs. Why hire a dude as an intern when you can hire some 22 year old blonde with a nice rack and willing to give up some ass, or introduce you to her hot friends?

On top of all of that, women get men throwing themselves at them, willing to support and do anything for them on a daily basis. Life as a woman is a cake walk as long as you're semi attractive, and that is making it hard and harder for males.

Sorry, but that's how the modern American culture looks at life.
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Actually any serious business wouldn't want to hire a woman of that age since she is likely to get pregnant and they would have to train someone else and pay her maternity leave (I'm not sure of US laws, sorry).

I think it's the fact both parents have to work now and the kids get put in front of a TV or given a game system.
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13) Because their parents allow it!
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As a young man trying to find my way in this world, it's not as easy as it sounds. I work dead end jobs with no future in sight. I've went to trade schools to get a decent job with O.K pay and alright benefits, only to be passed up on jobs for older men, with more experience. I am currently working for minimum wage, struggling to figure out what's next. I think I'm going to go to a legit college and go for medicine or a lawyer, somewhere along those lines. Most of my friends are in the same boat also. Some are just morons, others are just people waiting for their chance to prove their worth. Eventually I'll get it together, it only can't come soon enough.
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I found myself in your same position in the early 1970s neither my wife or I could find anything but minimum wage. . . the answer for me was I got drafted out of law school and into the military which propelled me into a career in medicine and returned to law later . . . coffee4
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If I were to cite one reason, it would be this: unable to get meaningful & gainful employment.

My wife - on the other hand - makes money while having two degrees to my three, while I am bilingual with a background in law.
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WOW..with those qualifications..you MIGHT just scrape a job up at Mc D's
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If they would f*cking call back, MAYBE! However, all debt considered, it would be hard to make ends meet with McD's...
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So do coffee4you think this generation has it harder now than previous generations . . ??
 Quoting: George B
I think this generation has more "wants" than previous generations so, they may think it's harder to achieve those wants. For the most part, I see my generation as very materialistic, superficial, and self-centered. They are raising their kids to be the same or worse. My husband is a MAN, he feels if I have to work, he's not doing his job. Men like that are few and far between nowadays because so many women have lost their true value. They don't know how to make the role of a "stay-at-home" a job, they've become too egotistical to find satisfaction in the role they were designed to play . Feminism is the root of everything that's wrong with society today. SAD...
 Quoting: Melrox


Wow!!! You wouldn't be very welcome at many health spas . . . however, I think you have some very good points . . . the change of roles of women especially their almost mandatory entry into the workforce has had devastating effects on the family . . . however, why has this caused Young Men to throw in the towel but not women??peace
 Quoting: George B
I think women feel the need to prove themselves more. It leaves men confused about their own role in life. If women are more than willing to take on everything to prove "something" to "someone"...what's the man left to do but sit back and watch?
 Quoting: Melrox


So women have a greater need to prove something . . . I like that . . . I think this may have some impact on the situation . . . good thoughts . . . ohyeah
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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I hate all the shows my daughter watches on family channel
They portray all men... young or old as idiots
Its not just kids shows
Most prime time sitcoms do the same thing
All men are shown as dumb idiots and all the women are shown as smart and successfull
WTF....
Look for it next time you watch tv
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All of the above?
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Yes, I agree this is a very complex question . . . ohno
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I hate all the shows my daughter watches on family channel
They portray all men... young or old as idiots
Its not just kids shows
Most prime time sitcoms do the same thing
All men are shown as dumb idiots and all the women are shown as smart and successfull
WTF....
Look for it next time you watch tv
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I really do agree with you observation . . . why do you think this is . . . ???huffy
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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All possible choices are wrong. It's capitalism, stupid.
Capitalism leads always to feudalism and fascism ... and always ruins the society earlier or later.
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as there is only one answer allowed, Id have to go with feminism. the constraints feminism puts on men, how they behave, constant shaming through the media, the law and society ready to slam down on men, are all restrictive factors.
a man and a woman go out, have a drink, end up n bed, she regrets it, cries rape..he ends up in court!
thats one scenario. feminism has backfired, you go guurrrlll!
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"Feminists", otherwise known as "Female Supremacists", started with a reasonable goal, such as "equal pay for equal work". The best example of this is piecework, and that was thrown out by the liberal equivalents from the 19th century.

Today, even incompetent old hags like the one in charge of DHS get to pretend competence, yet their only claim to fame is their vagina, shriveled as it may be.

Boys are not allowed or encouraged to excel, and girls are almost forced to. The natural order of things is upside down, and will remain that way until girls get put back in their place through any of a thousand reasons from depression to war. When they get thrown back in the kitchen and bedroom where they belong, it won't be by girlie men - it will be by savage brutish men - probably from outside our country. The price of defying natural law is very high.

Prize testosterone and all it entails, and shun girls that try to be men.
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13) Because their parents allow it!
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Yes, I think this is true . . . expectations are very, very important . . . if parents don't encourage and expect children will not succeed . . . it is as simple as that . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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IMO it all started going downhill when living costs got so high most families need both parents to work.
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Yes . . . I agree this is an important issue . . . but why boys being more troubled??coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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You forgot a "The human race sucks" option.

I don't see what is going on in the world as unusual anymore - it is simply human behavior being brought to a cyclical conclusion. The situation is always dire at the end of the cycle. No point in talking about "solutions" because the problem is inherit in the way the majority think, feel, and act.
Take your dogma and shove it!

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All possible choices are wrong. It's capitalism, stupid.
Capitalism leads always to feudalism and fascism ... and always ruins the society earlier or later.
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So socialist countries are immune from this "failure-to-launch" syndrome of young men??ohno
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Usually with large complex problem, there not one underlying reason for it's failure. It's multitude of problem compounding each other. So on your list, the most problematic get 20% of the reason, then the other ones, get 10%, and so forth.
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(Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing) was in the lead when I voted. This is the number one cause. The young kids today should be brought up with manners and respect. Their should be a simple set of rules to follow.

Just by following the 10 commandments, laws of karma, and the golden rule young people could learn to develop a better world. Humanity must become more in tune with its spiritual nature. The education system needs to be completely remolded. Also there must be a new or improved economy and economic system.
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as there is only one answer allowed, Id have to go with feminism. the constraints feminism puts on men, how they behave, constant shaming through the media, the law and society ready to slam down on men, are all restrictive factors.
a man and a woman go out, have a drink, end up n bed, she regrets it, cries rape..he ends up in court!
thats one scenario. feminism has backfired, you go guurrrlll!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34616551


"Feminists", otherwise known as "Female Supremacists", started with a reasonable goal, such as "equal pay for equal work". The best example of this is piecework, and that was thrown out by the liberal equivalents from the 19th century.

Today, even incompetent old hags like the one in charge of DHS get to pretend competence, yet their only claim to fame is their vagina, shriveled as it may be.

Boys are not allowed or encouraged to excel, and girls are almost forced to. The natural order of things is upside down, and will remain that way until girls get put back in their place through any of a thousand reasons from depression to war. When they get thrown back in the kitchen and bedroom where they belong, it won't be by girlie men - it will be by savage brutish men - probably from outside our country. The price of defying natural law is very high.

Prize testosterone and all it entails, and shun girls that try to be men.
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Wow!! Radical . . . but why aren't boys asked to excel?? They are not rewarded just like the girls when they excel??oops2
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Here's your problem right here: [link to www.mostlyodd.com]

It's an experiment a man ran on a mouse colony that may shed a lot of insight into our current society. Pay close attention to 'beautiful ones'. That accurately describes today's young males.
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That's amazing.
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Re: Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..
I dont think its very cut and dry. There's a lot of variables, but I think a lot of it boils down too technology, youtube, horrific parenting skills (i.e divorcing, mental abuse, bad at parenting etc.). Unusually high standards in order to get a decent job that pays a decent wage. You need to be a good schmoozer in order to get into job that you don't belong in. Worthless degree's that your stuck paying your whole life. Very few "good" women that will be your friend, first and foremost. Drugged up society. Selfishness and huge egos are considered "normal" Too many fish fighting for the same bait, basically... Fuck, I could go on and on but you get the point.

Life has just become a total mind fuck and it's a lot harder to get anywhere without totally fucking over your neighbor to get ahead.. IF you don't have that type of personality to rape and pillage everything in front of you to get to "Me, Myself and My shit" status , then it justs a hard life ahead for you. Its a classic case of the good 'ol "Nice guys finish last" saying... Nice people don't have the will or desire to do all the shit you need to do to launch off and be respected by the people that don't mind lying, stealing and cheating to park a porche in their garage.

In the end, we all fucking die and what was the fucking point of it all anyway? You're trophy wife will start getting wrinkles and eventually become an old hag that no one wants to bang. You cant take your M Series BMW with you when you keel over. All your shit gets distributed down to your shitty kids or whoever you willed it too and eventually becomes shit no one wants. Everyone forgets everything about you and the reality is you made like 0.000000000000000000000009% impact on the world even though you thought you were the hot shit.

I think a lot of people are just waiting. Waiting for something to change for the better and start creating an equal opportunity for everyone. Nothing lasts forever and this bullshit will come to end too. IT has to. Its bound too. It will. The odds are against it, like it is for everything else in life.

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