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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

 
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I hate all the shows my daughter watches on family channel
They portray all men... young or old as idiots
Its not just kids shows
Most prime time sitcoms do the same thing
All men are shown as dumb idiots and all the women are shown as smart and successfull
WTF....
Look for it next time you watch tv
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I really do agree with you observation . . . why do you think this is . . . ???huffy
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Have you noticed growing up as a kid how most of your peers acted exactly like the tv familys eg( the cosby show, growing pains, ect)
The tv tells you how to act, how to dress ,whats cool,values
Its the status quo and everyone follows
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You forgot a "The human race sucks" option.

I don't see what is going on in the world as unusual anymore - it is simply human behavior being brought to a cyclical conclusion. The situation is always dire at the end of the cycle. No point in talking about "solutions" because the problem is inherit in the way the majority think, feel, and act.
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So it is too late for any changes . . . the end is too close . . . Hmmmmm . . . just party down and forget the rest . . . dasbier
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I hate all the shows my daughter watches on family channel
They portray all men... young or old as idiots
Its not just kids shows
Most prime time sitcoms do the same thing
All men are shown as dumb idiots and all the women are shown as smart and successfull
WTF....
Look for it next time you watch tv
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28107574


I really do agree with you observation . . . why do you think this is . . . ???huffy
 Quoting: George B


Have you noticed growing up as a kid how most of your peers acted exactly like the tv familys eg( the cosby show, growing pains, ect)
The tv tells you how to act, how to dress ,whats cool,values
Its the status quo and everyone follows
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28107574


So who is setting the agenda for TV, etc. and Why?coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Lots of evidence that the changes are potentially caused by Estrogen pollutants referred to as Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals (EDCs). EDCs are found in products such as pesticides, prescription drugs, product additives, plastics, carpeting, furniture, detergents, synthetic estrogen in birth control pills, cosmetics and the list goes on and on.

Dr. Pete Myers, chief scientist at Environmental Health Sciences, said, "We have thrown 100, 000 chemicals against a finely balanced hormone system, so it's not surprising that we are seeing some serious results. It is leading to the most rapid pace of evolution in the history of the world."

From this blog: [link to friendinreach.blogspot.com]

Also, check out some of Dr. Tent's youtube videos, including The Killing Fields about 17 minutes into that video he talks about how the electromagnetic radiation (EMRs) from playing video games on your lap, heavy use of cell phones, etc. are changing our boys and making them more frail.
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So you think the drugs and chemicals have been more selectively harming the males(i.e. female hormones) over females coupled with the proximity to more electronic contamination due to male predilection to play with such toys????coffee4
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Its changing and impacting both males and females, leading to weight issues, cancer, infertility and more, however, I think it is impacting the male 'drive' as per your poll questions. Do guys spend much more time on video games, than girls, generally I see that in my family. If you're interested in reading more, Wikipedia has some statistics on EDC's lowering testosterone levels, fertility levels and even creating low blood sugar, which impacts energy and drive.
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So who is setting the agenda for TV, etc. and Why?coffee4



Follow the money.
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(Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing) was in the lead when I voted. This is the number one cause. The young kids today should be brought up with manners and respect. Their should be a simple set of rules to follow.

Just by following the 10 commandments, laws of karma, and the golden rule young people could learn to develop a better world. Humanity must become more in tune with its spiritual nature. The education system needs to be completely remolded. Also there must be a new or improved economy and economic system.
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So you feel that morals are not taught in the public school system? But if so why are boys more effected??coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

1) Men are cowards and have thrown in the towel . . .
2) Women have taken over the dominate role and you get what you pay for
3) Video games have created a generation of zoned out addicted young men  
4) The economy stupid
5) Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing
6) The feminist movement 
7) Plot to reduce the birth rate. . . 
8) Everyone has given up. . . The young men just gave up first 
9) Women don't respect men anymore 
10) Alcohol, Drugs and Pornography
11) TV and Movie image (husbands) of men as losers
12) Public Schools
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because we know we can wait until we get older since there will be a bunch of rich single ladies waiting to be swept off their feet by a handsome slightly younger man.
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All possible choices are wrong. It's capitalism, stupid.
Capitalism leads always to feudalism and fascism ... and always ruins the society earlier or later.
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So socialist countries are immune from this "failure-to-launch" syndrome of young men??ohno
 Quoting: George B


Socialism is stupid. If the government offers something without too many strings, I'll take it because I can. It's punishing the government for their own stupidity. I can earn as much as I choose to any time I want, and I have in the past. No I no longer need to.

I'll still take all I can in order to keep the system in line. They need to stop with the handouts. Now just imagine an entire country just like me.

That's why socialism is stupid - like feminism. It's inefficient and encourages good men to be lazy fucks that take advantage any time we can.

When there's a reason to succeed, we can do so easily, but don't play us, or we'll play you back unmercifully.
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define "failure-to-launch young men" plz
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Lots of evidence that the changes are potentially caused by Estrogen pollutants referred to as Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals (EDCs). EDCs are found in products such as pesticides, prescription drugs, product additives, plastics, carpeting, furniture, detergents, synthetic estrogen in birth control pills, cosmetics and the list goes on and on.

Dr. Pete Myers, chief scientist at Environmental Health Sciences, said, "We have thrown 100, 000 chemicals against a finely balanced hormone system, so it's not surprising that we are seeing some serious results. It is leading to the most rapid pace of evolution in the history of the world."

From this blog: [link to friendinreach.blogspot.com]

Also, check out some of Dr. Tent's youtube videos, including The Killing Fields about 17 minutes into that video he talks about how the electromagnetic radiation (EMRs) from playing video games on your lap, heavy use of cell phones, etc. are changing our boys and making them more frail.
 Quoting: Tropicalgirl


So you think the drugs and chemicals have been more selectively harming the males(i.e. female hormones) over females coupled with the proximity to more electronic contamination due to male predilection to play with such toys????coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Its changing and impacting both males and females, leading to weight issues, cancer, infertility and more, however, I think it is impacting the male 'drive' as per your poll questions. Do guys spend much more time on video games, than girls, generally I see that in my family. If you're interested in reading more, Wikipedia has some statistics on EDC's lowering testosterone levels, fertility levels and even creating low blood sugar, which impacts energy and drive.
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Thanks!!! . . . I am sure there is some good research out there . . . I will eventually get around to it . . . my purpose was to get a feeling from this poll what people felt . . . seems obvious this is a hot topic . . . people are very opinionated about and emotional about this issue . . . it is a very obvious trend and is getting very troubling . . . coffee4 This may have survival issues involved . . . verysad
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Baby boomer sacks of shit.
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So who is setting the agenda for TV, etc. and Why?coffee4



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Hollywood wants your boys to be useless . . . why?peace
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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Maybe they just no longer buy into this fucked up system.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

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George B., great post! 886

Serious question for you: Do you love smilies and you always seem to include an unrelated smilie to each post!
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Maybe they just no longer buy into this fucked up system.
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I know I don't.
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Where is "Bad/Lazy/Incompetent Parenting"
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Hear, Hear!
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I would think parenting plays a role at some point. There's no way, if my Dad had a son, that he'd be one of these "failure-to launch" young men. Work ethic starts early.
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define "failure-to-launch young men" plz
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It means they are living in their parent's basement (or something like the basement) instead of living on their own and are not employed or are under employed because of a lack of motivation or fear of failure . . . they may or may not have a girlfriend and have no ambition or desire to get married and start a family of their own . . . etc. . . .baby
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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13) Soy
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Please expand . . .female hormone effect?? . . . the orient has had soy for ages . . . don't think they are worse than the west on this issue???rex
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The orient does not eat it like some over here do. And soy has pyroestrogen.
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You forgot the most important reason: No father present. Thus, they subconsciously turn to other male role models, and that's when you get undue influence from cultural icons and other "unsavory" types.
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REAL MEN don't need a role model. They evaluate the culture from scratch in light of their needs and wants, and then formulate a plan to get their needs and wants met. REAL MEN don't have a pack mentality, like hungry dogs. They are more like a wolf, or a lion. Stalk the prey, set the trap, and pounce. Show no mercy. That's for later when you have acquired all you wish.

SOME fathers are important, but moreso for daughters.
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Maybe they just no longer buy into this fucked up system.
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So why in greater numbers than girls????coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Things are absolutely hopeless for men. Even the "successful" ones.

Let's see...

I'd say most men have completely given up on life in general and do anything to escape, because there literally is no other option. Seriously, what the fuck is the point in even trying? Either you try and fail, feel low about yourself, depressed...slowly go insane. Or you play video games or do drugs to escape. They are really the only two options I can see. If you do become "successful" you make lots of money to keep some bitch interested for a while until the money dries up or she finds someone better and she leaves with half of your shit.

And deep down, why should the woman care? If the money isn't coming in like she expected it to, she can just flash her tits at some bar and get whatever or whoever she wants. There's always something better. Yeah, she probably has a much higher paying job than the guys that pick up on her, but they'll buy her drinks for the whole night anyway, just because. And of course, princess has been raised as a princess, so free gifts all night is to be expected.

Meanwhile, guys that do try for a while in this shit system end up getting shit all over. The days of one man paying all the bills and still having enough cash left over for recreation is over. That's what's called "rich" in today's society. Men can contribute some cash, but overall, they really aren't totally necessary anymore.

Brains are certainly looked down upon but as long as the guy is a hardass gangsta and has a shit load of cash, the pussy flows like wine.

How many guys with actual degrees are unemployed? Shit they may be the most creative motherfuckers in the world, but they're unemployed and to most people that makes them losers and worthless.

Fuck this shit fucking society. I fucking give up. If that makes me a coward, then I guess I'm a coward. Call me whatever the fuck you want. From now I take care of me and only me. I escape as much as possible. And fuck relationships. I'd be committing the most heinous of crimes against humanity if I brought a poor kid into the fucked up hell of a world.
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LOL...I was a late launcher. I was 30 before I left home, heck, I was 27 before I lost my virginity...

Now I am happy, healthy, wealthy, and married to a model.

Good things come to those who wait.
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13) Soy
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Please expand . . .female hormone effect?? . . . the orient has had soy for ages . . . don't think they are worse than the west on this issue???rex
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The orient does not eat it like some over here do. And soy has pyroestrogen.
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Soy in Asia is generally fermented, and that makes it safer. Unfortunately, today's soy is mostly GMO, and that may become a death sentence for most of humanity.
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George B., great post! 886

Serious question for you: Do you love smilies and you always seem to include an unrelated smilie to each post!
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Yes, I think they are great . . . obviously . . . :144:
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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So why in greater numbers than girls????
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Because they get pregnant and are forced to raise the child alone. Nothing motivates like a crying infant.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Maybe these guys are doing better than to succumb to social whims expecting them to be married, drive, have kid/s by the age of 30 like it's some kind of unwritten law.

Fuck that, i'd rather be single and drinking or gaming 24/7 than putting myself out there all hours of the day for a brat sucking on its mums tit.
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(Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing) was in the lead when I voted. This is the number one cause. The young kids today should be brought up with manners and respect. Their should be a simple set of rules to follow.

Just by following the 10 commandments, laws of karma, and the golden rule young people could learn to develop a better world. Humanity must become more in tune with its spiritual nature. The education system needs to be completely remolded. Also there must be a new or improved economy and economic system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35479848


So you feel that morals are not taught in the public school system? But if so why are boys more effected??coffee4
 Quoting: George B
Boys are more affected in every aspect. Starting with the majority of boys having no father/male role model at home. Schools expected to parent because mom's working due to no male at home. Couples allowed to file for divorce so easily leaving kids with no male in the home. See a pattern? It all comes down to fatherless homes. Girls follow their "do-it-all" mothers footsteps...boys grow up witnessing the women doing it all. Where does that leave them? Modern men don't know how to father, don't know how to take care of themselves, and expect the women to do it all just like they saw their mother do. Vicious cycle.
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Maybe these guys are doing better than to succumb to social whims expecting them to be married, drive, have kid/s by the age of 30 like it's some kind of unwritten law.

Fuck that, i'd rather be single and drinking or gaming 24/7 than putting myself out there all hours of the day for a brat sucking on its mums tit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35393780


The whole system is a scam.

People spend their whole lives running on a treadmill, paying into a system that ultimately fucks them to keep the sociopaths in power and opulence.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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More often than not they simply cannot handle the stresses of life these days which points to varying degress of coping ability and dealing with mental issues.

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