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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

 
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27 year old failure to launch. I have no interest in sustaining the unsustainable, a just in time delivery society powered by finite deposits of oil. Its running out. Shit, everything's running out: arable land, clean water, biological diversity, minerals, metals, etc. There's going to be a big reset, and a lot of people without practical survival skills will probably get dragged down with the Titanic. I'd rather spend my time and money preparing for the paradigm shift.

I'd probably launch if I met a girl who knew what a paradigm actually was and saw how unsustainable our society is. But all I've met so far is the LOL OMG types. Too bad. There's nothing sexier than a girl that can plow a field.
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THat's it.....that's it, give up weakling little pussy! My plan is falling into place muwahahah!!
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27 year old failure to launch. I have no interest in sustaining the unsustainable, a just in time delivery society powered by finite deposits of oil. Its running out. Shit, everything's running out: arable land, clean water, biological diversity, minerals, metals, etc. There's going to be a big reset, and a lot of people without practical survival skills will probably get dragged down with the Titanic. I'd rather spend my time and money preparing for the paradigm shift.

I'd probably launch if I met a girl who knew what a paradigm actually was and saw how unsustainable our society is. But all I've met so far is the LOL OMG types. Too bad. There's nothing sexier than a girl that can plow a field.
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haha nice reply...there are a few girls still out there like that!

I agree, its hard to find someone our age that can hold an intelligent conversation! Thankfully we can come here and find a few threads that will spark some fun convos!
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lol its hard to find a young women these days that doesnt already have 3 kids by 3 different men.
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yikes...count me out of that!

I feel it is both men and women feeling this way (the failure to launch)...it almost seems like a hassle to get married at times. Too much bullshit to deal with planning a wedding(that society tells us we have to have an extravagant one), and with the divorce rate, many are too scared to make the final plunge.

Also, I feel many people are changing their direction right now, the economy is unstable and many people are just struggling to stay afloat and the idea of having to commit to a relationship where they need to provide is very daunting and too much to think about at times so it becomes a vicious cycle!

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lol its hard to find a young women these days that doesnt already have 3 kids by 3 different men.
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^ This!

An ex girlfriend (32, single mom) who I'm very close with, called me up, frantic about her weekend (got with guy 1 on Fri, got with guy 2 on Sat) then told me if I wanted to marry her she would say yes

Seriously!?
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
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Why did you marry him?

I don't understand the logic of some women. A friend of mine chases a guy who treats her like crap, admits he's sleeping around. Meanwhile another guy (her former obsession) is great to her and she "lost interest"

I don't understand....
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as there is only one answer allowed, Id have to go with feminism. the constraints feminism puts on men, how they behave, constant shaming through the media, the law and society ready to slam down on men, are all restrictive factors.
a man and a woman go out, have a drink, end up n bed, she regrets it, cries rape..he ends up in court!
thats one scenario. feminism has backfired, you go guurrrlll!
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its not feminisms fault - it is that men who were so used to dominating the hell out of everything - including nature - finally had to play on an "even" playing field - they had to actually start COMPETING for jobs, and education, and respect, and power etc etc...

and it looks as if THEY are failing - not all, but some - to blame women is only another example of how some men would prefer the world were still in the dark ages.

men, instead of blaming women, try to figure out how they are doing it? and what men could learn from them.

a man who blames feminism - which is only a word a man gave to a movement for woman who wanted things ohhh like - the right to vote, the right to go to college, the right for fair wages -the right to move ahead in a job- etc etc -

a man who blames a woman for wanting to know her true god given potential - and to play in the field of all that life has to offer - is a weak, ignorant, little boy - who certainly has NO IDEA what it actually means to be a fully realized man.

OP - you suck for creating a poll - that only has ONE answer - blame the women. Are you that afraid and incompetent to be an equal to a woman?
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Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..

1) Men are cowards and have thrown in the towel . . .
2) Women have taken over the dominate role and you get what you pay for
3) Video games have created a generation of zoned out addicted young men  
4) The economy stupid
5) Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing
6) The feminist movement 
7) Plot to reduce the birth rate. . . 
8) Everyone has given up. . . The young men just gave up first 
9) Women don't respect men anymore 
10) Alcohol, Drugs and Pornography
11) TV and Movie image (husbands) of men as losers
12) Public Schools
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Hereis the reason, which, of course, wasnot on the list.

Men donot:

KNOW THINE ENEMY

And guess what, suckers;
The enemy is in your camp;
Rotting out your government;
and eating out your nation's heart.
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You've got it wrong thinking that it is only young men that are suffering from this 'failure to launch' syndrome. Statistics clearly show that employment rates among young people have been steadily dropping since 1989, this applies nearly equally to both sexes though young women have lower employment rates than men (currently about 6 percent lower). As for the cause, it is hard to determine exactly why this trend began. It could be worsening economic conditions, personal attitudes or the increasing willingness of parents to support their children for a longer period of time. My only suggestion would be to start your search for answers at the beginning of the trend, 1989, and work forward from there.

Source Bureau of Labor Statistics [link to www.bls.gov]
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Im not a male but when I read the thread title I thought, In the U.S. anyhow I believe rather then failure to launch its a President thats failed to produce J O B's. There isnt to many men that would rather be with Mom & Dad , then be on his own.
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Because your vote yeilded 555 blank votes to the low number who actually voted... complete observers with no feed back.. simple observance.. blank vote
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POLL: Why are there so many "failure-to-Launch Young Men" .. . .? . . .select the most likely reason . ..
4) The economy stupid   15.4% (86)
5) Lack of reasonable moral or religious upbringing   14.5% (81)
3) Video games have created a generation of zoned out addicted young men     12.7% (71)
8) Everyone has given up. . . The young men just gave up first    11.8% (66)
6) The feminist movement   10.4% (58)
10) Alcohol, Drugs and Pornography   9.3% (52)
12) Public Schools   7.2% (40)
9) Women don't respect men anymore   5.2% (29)
2) Women have taken over the dominate role and you get what you pay for   5.0% (28)
11) TV and Movie image (husbands) of men as losers   4.8% (27)
1) Men are cowards and have thrown in the towel   2.0% (11)
7) Plot to reduce the birth rate   1.6% (9)
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Non-Blank Votes: 558
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Things are absolutely hopeless for men. Even the "successful" ones.

Let's see...

I'd say most men have completely given up on life in general and do anything to escape, because there literally is no other option. Seriously, what the fuck is the point in even trying? Either you try and fail, feel low about yourself, depressed...slowly go insane. Or you play video games or do drugs to escape. They are really the only two options I can see. If you do become "successful" you make lots of money to keep some bitch interested for a while until the money dries up or she finds someone better and she leaves with half of your shit.

And deep down, why should the woman care? If the money isn't coming in like she expected it to, she can just flash her tits at some bar and get whatever or whoever she wants. There's always something better. Yeah, she probably has a much higher paying job than the guys that pick up on her, but they'll buy her drinks for the whole night anyway, just because. And of course, princess has been raised as a princess, so free gifts all night is to be expected.

Meanwhile, guys that do try for a while in this shit system end up getting shit all over. The days of one man paying all the bills and still having enough cash left over for recreation is over. That's what's called "rich" in today's society. Men can contribute some cash, but overall, they really aren't totally necessary anymore.

Brains are certainly looked down upon but as long as the guy is a hardass gangsta and has a shit load of cash, the pussy flows like wine.

How many guys with actual degrees are unemployed? Shit they may be the most creative motherfuckers in the world, but they're unemployed and to most people that makes them losers and worthless.

Fuck this shit fucking society. I fucking give up. If that makes me a coward, then I guess I'm a coward. Call me whatever the fuck you want. From now I take care of me and only me. I escape as much as possible. And fuck relationships. I'd be committing the most heinous of crimes against humanity if I brought a poor kid into the fucked up hell of a world.
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I'm an older "failure to launch" I suppose, as I never latched onto a career. After about age 40 I stopped even trying to follow the conventional path and have never been happier. If you're creative you can do this.

It really is a form of slavery as it's set up. The most important things in this life are health and a sense of inner peace. Worrying about societal pressures is a total waste. The system is extremely flawed and more are seeing this.
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The lack of Fathers in there kids life. I couldnn't wait to leave home, you know wine, women, an good weed. Men today have no balls. I blame this on lawyers and cops. Back in the day you got into a fight at least every other month. I mean no gun,or knives, just fists. Now if you raise your voice it's terroristic threating and jail. The man has been spade and neutered in todays world. I think their putting salt peter in the food, like in prison. I have two friends and they are saying the same thing, there kids are in their mid 20's and even 32 and they won't get jobs, just lazy I guess.

I also think it has to do when the kids could call the cops on there parents.
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26692909


if you are truly in your mid thirties -then you have YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF YOU...divorce this idiot! there are plenty of great guys out there. imagine what your life could be like without manboy dragging around your ankle?

go for it. it may be hard - but I imagine it may also be a relief to be free of playing mommy to a grown man. ugh - ultimately you are an enabler...and if you stay, deserve to be quite miserable - but, it will by your choosing - not because of society, or religion or anything - you CHOOSE that lifestyle every single day, you agree to do it!
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It really is a form of slavery as it's set up. The most important things in this life are health and a sense of inner peace. Worrying about societal pressures is a total waste. The system is extremely flawed and more are seeing this.
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I couldn't agree more. I keep chasing the dollars, but I'm not happy. I don't even buy stuff. I just keep stockpiling cash that keeps losing value. What's the point in that? To enjoy life when I'm 70?
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Things are absolutely hopeless for men. Even the "successful" ones.

Let's see...

I'd say most men have completely given up on life in general and do anything to escape, because there literally is no other option. Seriously, what the fuck is the point in even trying? Either you try and fail, feel low about yourself, depressed...slowly go insane. Or you play video games or do drugs to escape. They are really the only two options I can see. If you do become "successful" you make lots of money to keep some bitch interested for a while until the money dries up or she finds someone better and she leaves with half of your shit.

And deep down, why should the woman care? If the money isn't coming in like she expected it to, she can just flash her tits at some bar and get whatever or whoever she wants. There's always something better. Yeah, she probably has a much higher paying job than the guys that pick up on her, but they'll buy her drinks for the whole night anyway, just because. And of course, princess has been raised as a princess, so free gifts all night is to be expected.

Meanwhile, guys that do try for a while in this shit system end up getting shit all over. The days of one man paying all the bills and still having enough cash left over for recreation is over. That's what's called "rich" in today's society. Men can contribute some cash, but overall, they really aren't totally necessary anymore.

Brains are certainly looked down upon but as long as the guy is a hardass
gangsta and has a shit load of cash, the pussy flows like wine.

How many guys with actual degrees are unemployed? Shit they may be the most creative motherfuckers in the world, but they're unemployed and to most people that makes them losers and worthless.

Fuck this shit fucking society. I fucking give up. If that makes me a coward, then I guess I'm a coward. Call me whatever the fuck you want. From now I
take care of me and only me. I escape as much as possible. And fuck relationships. I'd be committing the most heinous of crimes against humanity if I brought a poor kid into the fucked up hell of a world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31804933

I'm an older "failure to launch" I suppose, as I never latched onto a career. After about age 40 I stopped even trying to follow the conventional path and have never been happier. If you're creative you can do this.

It really is a form of slavery as it's set up. The most important things in this life are health and a sense of inner peace. Worrying about societal pressures is a total waste. The system is extremely flawed and more are
seeing this.
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So failure to launch can be a value decision . . . ? A rebellion against a material world??? . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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lol its hard to find a young women these days that doesnt already have 3 kids by 3 different men.
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^ This!

An ex girlfriend (32, single mom) who I'm very close with, called me up, frantic about her weekend (got with guy 1 on Fri, got with guy 2 on Sat) then told me if I wanted to marry her she would say yes

Seriously!?
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R U N !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26692909


Lawd! And what is your revulsion level on a scale of 1-10,
if you're kicking him in bed you're dam close to packing.
Ever notice it's the girls that have to leave even though they've invested the most energy into the household. Why? Because they refuse to leave..like moving a limp protester.

Don't get me wrong. I love babying men if they're sick or you just wanna indulge them for the sheer joy of it.

But that has no appeal if the guy just dumps the entirety of his weight on you and you have to make all the decisions and drag him by the ankle through life. Then he might turn on you because he resents giving you power he refused to share like a real life partner who gives a dam about you.

Heck yeah I got out. You can too. Just get to that line and cross it and you won't go back. Guaranteed.
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How about out sourcing, moving companies overseas and immigrants due to lower cost but at what cost?
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lol its hard to find a young women these days that doesnt already have 3 kids by 3 different men.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35235791


^ This!

An ex girlfriend (32, single mom) who I'm very close with, called me up, frantic about her weekend (got with guy 1 on Fri, got with guy 2 on Sat) then told me if I wanted to marry her she would say yes

Seriously!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35584027


R U N !!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4613981


I know it :) I didn't even get to mention her psycho ex husband. Psycho like I should write a book about him. Super super psycho.
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
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Why did you marry him?

I don't understand the logic of some women. A friend of mine chases a guy who treats her like crap, admits he's sleeping around. Meanwhile another guy (her former obsession) is great to her and she "lost interest"

I don't understand....
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I married for love or what I thought was love while young then I grew up and he didn't as I had hoped he would.
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It really is a form of slavery as it's set up. The most important things in this life are health and a sense of inner peace. Worrying about societal pressures is a total waste. The system is extremely flawed and more are seeing this.
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I couldn't agree more. I keep chasing the dollars, but I'm not happy. I don't even buy stuff. I just keep stockpiling cash that keeps losing value. What's the point in that? To enjoy life when I'm 70?
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One should not forget to live today for tomorrow may never come but one should not ignore tomorrow for one may regret not preparing for the future . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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The lack of Fathers in there kids life. I couldnn't wait to leave home, you know wine, women, an good weed. Men today have no balls. I blame this on lawyers and cops. Back in the day you got into a fight at least every other month. I mean no gun,or knives, just fists. Now if you raise your voice it's terroristic threating and jail. The man has been spade and neutered in todays world. I think their putting salt peter in the food, like in prison. I have two friends and they are saying the same thing, there kids are in their mid 20's and even 32 and they won't get jobs, just lazy I guess.

I also think it has to do when the kids could call the cops on there parents.
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You can get wine woman and weed without a job though, especially if you just want sex and not a relationship.
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You forgot the "all of the above" option. (13) Please edit.
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I wish I could but editing is not possible once a poll is launched. . . .but yes all of the above. . . .none of the above would be great ...sorry !!!grinning
 Quoting: George B


How about an insane legal system which entertains unlimited PC nonsense, including stripping a professor's tenure for so called "eye rape" (accusations of leering) by a female subordinate covetous of his professional position?

When you have shit like that flying in courts, it is nonsense to support such a system by expending any effort whatsoever.
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Wow! That is whacked . . . !!hiding2
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26692909


if you are truly in your mid thirties -then you have YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF YOU...divorce this idiot! there are plenty of great guys out there. imagine what your life could be like without manboy dragging around your ankle?

go for it. it may be hard - but I imagine it may also be a relief to be free of playing mommy to a grown man. ugh - ultimately you are an enabler...and if you stay, deserve to be quite miserable - but, it will by your choosing - not because of society, or religion or anything - you CHOOSE that lifestyle every single day, you agree to do it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 97102


I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26692909


Lawd! And what is your revulsion level on a scale of 1-10,
if you're kicking him in bed you're dam close to packing.
Ever notice it's the girls that have to leave even though they've invested the most energy into the household. Why? Because they refuse to leave..like moving a limp protester.

Don't get me wrong. I love babying men if they're sick or you just wanna indulge them for the sheer joy of it.

But that has no appeal if the guy just dumps the entirety of his weight on you and you have to make all the decisions and drag him by the ankle through life. Then he might turn on you because he resents giving you power he refused to share like a real life partner who gives a dam about you.

Heck yeah I got out. You can too. Just get to that line and cross it and you won't go back. Guaranteed.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


You are both correct of course in giving me a much needed kick in the arse.
I kept hoping he would change and it's become clear he isn't.
I am planning on leaving soon just getting my ducks in a row so to speak.
I've already told him come June if nothing has changed I am leaving him.
But thank you for reconfirming what I have thought to and hopefully others may see this and know that they do not change.
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Being a guy I see many young men not living for anything but themselves. . . or are too afraid to risk anything which could make them uncomfortable or possibly fail. . . video games, porn, alcohol and drugs are crutches that numb them into accepting third place in life. . . .

Seems guys are much more likely to suffer the "failure to launch syndrome" than women (my theory is video games at too early an age has something to do with this . . .women seem more immune to it or simply are not interested). . . I saw this as men became less and less represented in many professional schools including law and medicine . . .

It is easier to never risk than to try and fail. . . we have a real problem with the future unless half of us don't step up and accept responsibility . . . I am afraid that is where we are headed. . . .many women are alone . . . I hope they can succeed without the support of most men. . . .peace
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men through our gov aND powers that be have been demonized.they are told we are all equal,so if they are told this all the time it makes them start to believe in it.then they give up because that coupled with how the women are given the leg up in damn near everything now'because we are all equal"so men stop caring.real men have been beaten down through the courts for atleast 30 years now.

the lil boy back then grew up watching how beaten down their dad was by the system that they dare not tread where pops treaded before.the ones that do get shown real quick just how evil women are at their core.A lion has a bigger heart than a woman...
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its a combination of many factors, not just one.
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The dichotomy of motherhood and lack of an active father.

On one hand we have welfare, don't give a shit where my children are moms.

At the other extreme, we have helicoptor moms who do not teach young men how to be responsible for themselves or their bad choices.
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This!! ^^

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27 year old failure to launch. I have no interest in sustaining the unsustainable, a just in time delivery society powered by finite deposits of oil. Its running out. Shit, everything's running out: arable land, clean water, biological diversity, minerals, metals, etc. There's going to be a big reset, and a lot of people without practical survival skills will probably get dragged down with the Titanic. I'd rather spend my time and money preparing for the paradigm shift.

I'd probably launch if I met a girl who knew what a paradigm actually was and saw how unsustainable our society is. But all I've met so far is the LOL OMG types. Too bad. There's nothing sexier than a girl that can plow a field.
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This ^^
 Quoting: Tigershield


no

He is lacking. He is Adam blaming:

I never met a "girl" (or boy) i couldnot teach to plow and hoe a garden, clean a stall, mop a floor, clean kitty litter boxes, do windows, clean an oven, help medicate animals, and on and on and on, and iam just a little, old lady hiring help to help me out a little.

Jesus tried to teach us to teach

Hosea 4:6:
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge:
[link to www.youtube.com]

Truth will set you free John 8:32
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I don't know about the world at large, but my husband, I can tell you his issues.
Living with him is like living with a child most of the time.
He never holds a job long and when he does make it past 6 months he starts self sabotaging it.
I tried to be a homemaker as that role fulfills me completely but he won't allow it for long.
He will bitch and complain that we need more money and when I've heard enough and go back to work he quits his job within a few weeks every time.
Whether I am working or not I am still the one who cleans, cooks, takes care of him, of anything needed done, and takes care of our pets.
He will spend all his time playing games, getting f*d up, porn, and sleeping.
He never picks up after himself or does anything I ask him to.
If he does it may be months later after asking and then it is done begrudgingly.
Sex?
Maybe once every 2-3 months if lucky.
I'm sure his hand gets more sex than I do
He has been like this since the day we met and when I was in my younger days that was fine but I grew up.
We are now in our mid 30's and nothing much has changed.
He lies to me and everyone else plus he steals from places he works and lies to me about that too.
Then he gets caught and fired and places the blame on me as to why there is no money.
I can tell you with 100% truthfulness that if the world don't end and our species continues on then the next time I marry it will be with an older man who is mature.
In fact I would urge all women who are dating these man boys to please reconsider.
Take it from me and learn from my mistakes that it will only bring you pain in the future.
Marry someone who can and will take care of themselves not some boy who is only leaving one mamma for another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26692909



Why did you marry him?

I don't understand the logic of some women. A friend of mine chases a guy who treats her like crap, admits he's sleeping around. Meanwhile another guy (her former obsession) is great to her and she "lost interest"

I don't understand....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35584027

I married for love or what I thought was love while young then I grew up and he didn't as I had hoped he would.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26692909


the question is - are you happy? happy with this "love", this man, this life you two have created? if the answer is no - or the percentage is 60 no/40 yes - Then my question to you is: who are you living for? Are you living for his happiness to the exclusion of yours? are you making his life more important than yours?
if you are still in love - and not happy - then you need to find a way to make yourself happy inside your marriage - with or WITHOUT him. Sounds as if he has it quite cushy like a lot of men who find a woman to mommy them.
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The trend nowadays is for parents to coddle their children and not push them out of the nest so they will become INDEPENDENT. A lot of these weirdos don't WANT their kids to grow up. It's freaking bizarre.
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Interesting position . . . do parents coddle boys more than girls?coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B

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