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These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!

 
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These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
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WOW!!!
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Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
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Well that's probably not sustainable.

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WOW!!!
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Hawaii ???

I never would have guessed that.
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$25.00 an hour ? average ??
according to who ? a top carpenter in new england was good for that in 2007. now many of those same carpenters are working for $15.00 hr.
i'm sure many more industrial workers have been affected. so where does this average come from ? in southern states those same top carpenters are at $12-15.00 an hour to begin with.
So that makes no sense
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Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
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isn't that interesting??? and how many of those states went for obama in the last election.
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Well that's probably not sustainable.

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we are killing ourselves. we who work for a living are totally outnumbered by those who "vote" for a living.

WOW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35243513


Hawaii ???

I never would have guessed that.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


i admit i was kind of shocked by that too...

yes
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I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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$25.00 an hour ? average ??
according to who ? a top carpenter in new england was good for that in 2007. now many of those same carpenters are working for $15.00 hr.
i'm sure many more industrial workers have been affected. so where does this average come from ? in southern states those same top carpenters are at $12-15.00 an hour to begin with.
So that makes no sense
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i guess a simple search would gives us the answer?
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oh and thank you for the stars... hf
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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so lets cut social security and medicare ...

that makes sense
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It's amazing that some limp-dick complaining a-hole would bitch about where they get the stats without reading the info in the link.

Nice job d-bag! Can't figure out why we're in the shitter...
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so lets cut social security and medicare ...

that makes sense
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yes after all those old people don't need as much money as some welfare queen with six kids or more...

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I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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I really have no more words, thoughts or feelings about America anymore. We have gone from stand and unite to every man for himself….fak folks what the fak have we let America become.burnit
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Re: These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
It's amazing that some limp-dick complaining a-hole would bitch about where they get the stats without reading the info in the link.

Nice job d-bag! Can't figure out why we're in the shitter...
 Quoting: Imlay



OP implies that this is what everyone on any sort of assistance receives, which is far from the truth. Also, people forget 'welfare' requires being a single mother.

Conservatives are just as idiotic as the far left.
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Re: These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
"We're chained to the world and we all gotta pull." - Tom Waits
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I really have no more words, thoughts or feelings about America anymore. We have gone from stand and unite to every man for himself….fak folks what the fak have we let America become.burnit
 Quoting: iBYTE on 2


i know and believe me i have thought that myself. i feel very sorry for people like my father. he served in viet nam and always, always has a flag flying in front of his home. i recognize and appreciate his sacrifices and the sacrifices of all those who have served and continue to serve, but it is hard to watch him still working and trying to keep his business together while this damn government is taxing him to death.
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
 Quoting: calx


edit - the question was brought up because the fools in charge have been able to kick the can down the road for so long and we seem to be in the slow strangulation process already.
"We're chained to the world and we all gotta pull." - Tom Waits
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Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
 Quoting: calx


i think it will be a gradual decline and it will be similar to the frog in the pot of cold water. we will never feel the heat until it is too late.


:tomn101:
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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It's amazing that some limp-dick complaining a-hole would bitch about where they get the stats without reading the info in the link.

Nice job d-bag! Can't figure out why we're in the shitter...
 Quoting: Imlay



OP implies that this is what everyone on any sort of assistance receives, which is far from the truth. Also, people forget 'welfare' requires being a single mother.

Conservatives are just as idiotic as the far left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


excuse me, but the report came from the government, i didn't make it up and pull out of thin air.

i am inclined to believe that people on benefits live quite well because every year the number who depend on the taxpayer for a living grows. if it was so awful that number would shrink.
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

Krauthammer: "If Fences Don't Work, Why Is There One Around The White House?"
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Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
 Quoting: calx


i think it will be a gradual decline and it will be similar to the frog in the pot of cold water. we will never feel the heat until it is too late.


:tomn101:
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Unfortunately I'm starting to feel that way as well. Out with a whimper.
"We're chained to the world and we all gotta pull." - Tom Waits
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welfare does not require you being a single mother.
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Re: These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
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Do these stats include Social Security and Medicare? A lot of articles talking about "welfare" include those items as well.
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Conservatives are just as idiotic as the far left.

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So what then? You faking liberals are eviscerating America you faks! s226 fak you and the idiotic left.
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It's amazing that some limp-dick complaining a-hole would bitch about where they get the stats without reading the info in the link.

Nice job d-bag! Can't figure out why we're in the shitter...
 Quoting: Imlay



OP implies that this is what everyone on any sort of assistance receives, which is far from the truth. Also, people forget 'welfare' requires being a single mother.

Conservatives are just as idiotic as the far left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


excuse me, but the report came from the government, i didn't make it up and pull out of thin air.

i am inclined to believe that people on benefits live quite well because every year the number who depend on the taxpayer for a living grows. if it was so awful that number would shrink.
 Quoting: davvi



TANF goes up to 900 for a family of four, tops. Food stamps (also family of 4) maxes out at 500 per month. You'd have to be very careful when living on that.

single person will get a max of 500 out of both programs per month. There's no way you can compare these stats to a full time (or part time) job making 15-25 per hour.

[link to www.welfareinfo.org]
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Re: These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
 Quoting: calx


edit - the question was brought up because the fools in charge have been able to kick the can down the road for so long and we seem to be in the slow strangulation process already.
 Quoting: calx


5a

That is precisely why it is going to take perhaps 30 years to recover from this latest CORPORATE nonsense. That is assuming that the deteriorating standard of living can ever be resurrected!
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Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
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All Blue states?
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you're not taking into account all the applicants that LIE and receive benefits. i'm also thinking benefit amounts differ from state to state, or no?
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wrong...i knew of a FAMILY, husband, wife, 2 kids who received welfare and food stamps...not a single mother
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sorry....also, none have medical disability

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