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These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!

 
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sorry....also, none have medical disability
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Yes, BUT...

To get all those goodies?

You need to be a SINGLE female WITH a child and a MEDICAL disability.

A single man can't get half of any of those goodies.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Agreed my sister in law falls under this category, she lies about how many kids she has living with her plus she gets the single men to live with her. She doesn't make as much as me but pretty close. It is very frustrating.

I would love to tell the state or someone about her but I don't for 2 reason 1 no one would listen. 2 I would hate if something happened to them kids. She has 5 and only 2 of them live with her.

It is very frustrating, to work my butt off and she doesn't but karma will get her when those kids turn 18 and then she is out on her ass, extremely fat ass I might add.
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I’m sorry davvi for ranting a bit on your thread. I pay for enough fucking fat people to swim in my apartment complex pool during the summer while I go to work so then can do this all day? Obesity is now a disability? Fak if you can swim and cook meat? You can work you teat drinking fat faks!!
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Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
 Quoting: calx


i think it will be a gradual decline and it will be similar to the frog in the pot of cold water. we will never feel the heat until it is too late.


:tomn101:
 Quoting: davvi


Unfortunately I'm starting to feel that way as well. Out with a whimper.
 Quoting: calx


these old clowns in washington dc should be ashamed of themselves. the US was a brilliant experiment and one that if we would have adhered to the constitution would have lasted a thousand years, but fifty years of liberalism and like every city dominated by democrats, we are destroyed

whatthehell2


1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
 Quoting: davvi


Do these stats include Social Security and Medicare? A lot of articles talking about "welfare" include those items as well.
 Quoting: Little Bee


no i don't think it is including that as it says: "food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits."

now some seniors could be on food stamps and subsidized housing and i would never begrudge them that, but what i think this is referring to are those who have been on benefits all of their lives.
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I’m sorry davvi for ranting a bit on your thread. I pay for enough fucking fat people to swim in my apartment complex pool during the summer while I go to work so then can do this all day? Obesity is now a disability? Fak if you can swim and cook meat? You can work you teat drinking fat faks!!
 Quoting: iBYTE on 2


rant away, my friend, it is perfectly fine with me and you owe no one an apology. it IS frustrating and i think we all can understand how you feel. thumbs
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Holy shit!
5*'s OP.
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It's amazing that some limp-dick complaining a-hole would bitch about where they get the stats without reading the info in the link.

Nice job d-bag! Can't figure out why we're in the shitter...
 Quoting: Imlay



OP implies that this is what everyone on any sort of assistance receives, which is far from the truth. Also, people forget 'welfare' requires being a single mother.

Conservatives are just as idiotic as the far left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1271534


LOOK.... a welfare expert...probably an expert on everything
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"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838111


All Blue states?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30750596


no, but i have no doubt that the major welfare areas are all big cities and all of those big cities are very very blue...
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Holy shit!
5*'s OP.
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I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
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WOW!!!
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To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour. oyesbutt
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Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
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isn't that interesting??? and how many of those states went for obama in the last election.
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The South was almost exclusively RED states during the election but yet we are on this list and likely will be forever more now.

We already had many counties with a "minority majority" of ration of more blacks than whites even before the more recent influx of all the illegal aliens.

Now we are completely over run.

Many people do not realize this and that it conbtributes to our chronic poverty.

And this is not a racist statement. It's just a fact that minorities have greater participation in welfare programs, higher crime rates and other social problems.

I have no answer for any of this and really feel like just giving up now. Pretty hopeless.

The good guys lost.
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Do you have a link for the list of states?

Thx
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It's so ironic that the ones driving this country down call themselves "progressives"

that's the most fucked up play on words since " I'm from the govt and I'm here to help"

When will you leftists wake the fuck up and see that your bullshit plans and programs are destructive to the country and everyone in it.

The "free" shit you want is what will keep you down. You are willing to accept what they give you and then bitch that it's not enough. Get off your lazy ass and earn something.

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Jefferson County where Birmingham is may default on MUNICIPAL BONDS!

And is 78% minority populatiopn with the other Percentage apparently crooked politicians.

There is no way in hell those of us paying taxes can pay for all of these who are not just in this state alone.
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Someone raised an interesting question on Zero Hedge today about the collapse - whether or not we'll actually have one or perhaps our living standard will just slowly deteriorate over time until we end up in a Mad Max society and no one remembers the "good old days."
 Quoting: calx


edit - the question was brought up because the fools in charge have been able to kick the can down the road for so long and we seem to be in the slow strangulation process already.
 Quoting: calx


5a

That is precisely why it is going to take perhaps 30 years to recover from this latest CORPORATE nonsense. That is assuming that the deteriorating standard of living can ever be resurrected!
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5a

Look, go to the Inflation Calculator.com. Type in 1965 and $5 which was by the way what an AVERAGE wage earner might expect per hour and that was LOW. It will convert this amount to the 2013 equivalent. You might be shocked to know that it is OVER $36 an hour. So how did we sustain the economy to this point CREDIT/CREDIT/CREDIT and more CREDIT. By the late 80's most people equated CREDIT with earned income and used it in the same way that is how the hell we got to where we were in 2008. The new normal, credet has dried up/asset value has dropped through the floor/credit cards the driving force might as well be non existant/ the UNIONS that relatively kept up with inflation and drove the expansion of the middle class have been savaged by the Koch Bros and the general population who are totally ignorant or oblivious to what has happened which I am afraid includes you Davvi.
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$25.00 an hour ? average ??
according to who ? a top carpenter in new england was good for that in 2007. now many of those same carpenters are working for $15.00 hr.
i'm sure many more industrial workers have been affected. so where does this average come from ? in southern states those same top carpenters are at $12-15.00 an hour to begin with.
So that makes no sense
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Carpentry in the south is 8 - 10
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Look, go to the Inflation Calculator.com. Type in 1965 and $5 which was by the way what an AVERAGE wage earner might expect per hour and that was LOW. It will convert this amount to the 2013 equivalent. You might be shocked to know that it is OVER $36 an hour. So how did we sustain the economy to this point CREDIT/CREDIT/CREDIT and more CREDIT. By the late 80's most people equated CREDIT with earned income and used it in the same way that is how the hell we got to where we were in 2008. The new normal, credet has dried up/asset value has dropped through the floor/credit cards the driving force might as well be non existant/ the UNIONS that relatively kept up with inflation and drove the expansion of the middle class have been savaged by the Koch Bros and the general population who are totally ignorant or oblivious to what has happened which I am afraid includes you Davvi.

I can't remember one policy or law that was authored or signed by anyone named Koch.

Why do some always have to blame someone with money? Look at the idiots who run this country in DC. That's where you will find the destruction of the economy and the working class. Don't blame the Koch bros. They employ a lot of people that produce something. The federal govt employs a lot of people who do nothing but collect a paycheck and suck up our tax dollars
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WOW!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35243513


To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour. oyesbutt
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30750596


YES WE DID!!

Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33838111


isn't that interesting??? and how many of those states went for obama in the last election.
 Quoting: davvi




The South was almost exclusively RED states during the election but yet we are on this list and likely will be forever more now.

We already had many counties with a "minority majority" of ration of more blacks than whites even before the more recent influx of all the illegal aliens.

Now we are completely over run.

Many people do not realize this and that it conbtributes to our chronic poverty.

And this is not a racist statement. It's just a fact that minorities have greater participation in welfare programs, higher crime rates and other social problems.

I have no answer for any of this and really feel like just giving up now. Pretty hopeless.

The good guys lost.
 Quoting: Bluebird


average people in my state can not out-vote the major cities which are mostly minority and definitely welfare recipients.

It's so ironic that the ones driving this country down call themselves "progressives"

that's the most fucked up play on words since " I'm from the govt and I'm here to help"

When will you leftists wake the fuck up and see that your bullshit plans and programs are destructive to the country and everyone in it.

The "free" shit you want is what will keep you down. You are willing to accept what they give you and then bitch that it's not enough. Get off your lazy ass and earn something.

oopsbutton

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:webro:
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


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Do you have a link for the list of states?

Thx
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Link to the list of states, please.
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Look, go to the Inflation Calculator.com. Type in 1965 and $5 which was by the way what an AVERAGE wage earner might expect per hour and that was LOW. It will convert this amount to the 2013 equivalent. You might be shocked to know that it is OVER $36 an hour. So how did we sustain the economy to this point CREDIT/CREDIT/CREDIT and more CREDIT. By the late 80's most people equated CREDIT with earned income and used it in the same way that is how the hell we got to where we were in 2008. The new normal, credet has dried up/asset value has dropped through the floor/credit cards the driving force might as well be non existant/ the UNIONS that relatively kept up with inflation and drove the expansion of the middle class have been savaged by the Koch Bros and the general population who are totally ignorant or oblivious to what has happened which I am afraid includes you Davvi.
 Quoting: TDJ


I can't remember one policy or law that was authored or signed by anyone named Koch.

Why do some always have to blame someone with money? Look at the idiots who run this country in DC. That's where you will find the destruction of the economy and the working class. Don't blame the Koch bros. They employ a lot of people that produce something. The federal govt employs a lot of people who do nothing but collect a paycheck and suck up our tax dollars


i missed that post, lol, glad i did. it is always someone else's fault and they never place the blame where it belongs.
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Do you have a link for the list of states?

Thx
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Link to the list of states, please.
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i think the reason no one is answering you is because the list of states is in the op...
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1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
 Quoting: davvi


Ummm...DIPSHIT...there aren't any $25HR "REGULAR JOBS"

So I'm going to have to pull the "bullshit lever" on this one. you got a bit sloppy
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:nobj:
I am proud to be Hispanic says the Hispanic.
I am proud to be Black says the Black.
I am proud to be Asian says the Asian.
I am proud to be White says the "racist."


I never give RED karma, only GREEN for great posters. If you give me red or green please leave your name, I like to say thank you...

Leftist Jews create anti-Semitism.

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1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
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Ummm...DIPSHIT...there aren't any $25HR "REGULAR JOBS"

So I'm going to have to pull the "bullshit lever" on this one. you got a bit sloppy

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oh nos...not the bullshit lever? :cutehow:
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Do you have a link for the list of states?

Thx
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Link to the list of states, please.
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i think the reason no one is answering you is because the list of states is in the op...
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Sorry, but what op...? The thread Thread: The top 15 Welfare States has a very different list.
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Do you have a link for the list of states?

Thx
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Link to the list of states, please.
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i think the reason no one is answering you is because the list of states is in the op...
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Sorry, but what op...? The thread Thread: The top 15 Welfare States has a very different list.
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uh duh!!! this thread is not about the top 15 welfare states...
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you're not taking into account all the applicants that LIE and receive benefits. i'm also thinking benefit amounts differ from state to state, or no?
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No shit....I personally know several collecting disability benefits and receiving free pain meds to boot....crazy ol' world....
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Well that's probably not sustainable.

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Understatement