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These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!

 
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Gee, surprise, surprise - both of the states that Barry calls home are listed !
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isn't that interesting??? and how many of those states went for obama in the last election.
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The South was almost exclusively RED states during the election but yet we are on this list and likely will be forever more now.

We already had many counties with a "minority majority" of ration of more blacks than whites even before the more recent influx of all the illegal aliens.

Now we are completely over run.

Many people do not realize this and that it conbtributes to our chronic poverty.

And this is not a racist statement. It's just a fact that minorities have greater participation in welfare programs, higher crime rates and other social problems.

I have no answer for any of this and really feel like just giving up now. Pretty hopeless.

The good guys lost.
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The South has been dirt poor since the end of plantations and slavery. The past few decades of bullshit air-conditioned NASCAR McMansion prosperity have been nothing more than an illusory anomaly drying up with loss of oil production. Now they're going back to sharecropping and poverty as they were before. The Mexicans will then sneak back across the border to Mexico, where there are better jobs waiting for them.
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more people on welfare just means more people are broke as fuck OP has never lived, and wasn't born in, a bad environment, and neither have half of you! i was born to a mom who was broke as fuck.
I couldn't go to college, how was i supposed to? I worked 2 jobs and all my money went to keep a roof over our head, making at most 10 an hour. try and get a well paying job when you have no formal education and training, which all costs money!
I had to rely on the government assistance for food, because all my money was going to rent and gas to get to work! when you make 8.00gaspcry an hour and gas is 3.75 a gallon?
so all you privileged asses who have invaded GLP fuck off!
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If I really believed this article, I would quit working immediately and get $60K per year. I'll endure all of the badmouthing in the world to get that kind of easy money, especially since welfare apparently pays 3x as much as I could make at any available jobs.

Who are the smart ones and who are the angry idiots in society if this is true?
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The link above doesn't list any states. The states the OP lists are discussed on the Forbes website [link to www.forbes.com] in an article entitled "Do You Live In A Death Spiral State." The focus of that article is is overall dependence on govt money. The 11 states listed are fiscally shaky because of the number of people depending on govt money and that includes things like percentage of govt workers and existence of anti-private-sector policies.

That being said, back to the original link. There is some very interesting information found there. And I agree with all of you that are saying, "where are these $25 an hour jobs?" No sh*t! But the link does state that the $25 is household income per hour, not individual income.

Basically, the senate link above says that total welfare spending per day for families below the poverty level is $168, which equates to the equivalent of receiving $30 per hour. But for people who are working and not below poverty level, the median household income is $137 a day, which is $21-$25 an hour/household, minus taxes. Welfare is not taxed. It proves what many of us that have worked our a**ses off have suspected all along about entitlements.

It also addresses the programs that are included in this study. And no, Social Security and Medicare are not included. What is included in these numbers are programs the recipient does not pay into, such as food stamps, free housing, child care.

The working class is getting screwed big time!bump
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When the money stops then you will see your zombies everyone keeps saying prepare for. As the free loaders take to the streets because the government is no longer giving. That's what the ammo and armored vehicles are for.
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People will go completely nuts if the money/food stops. There Will Be Blood.
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1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
 Quoting: davvi
168 dollars a day is absolute bs and incorrect. The amount a family of four receives is around $470 a day for cash assisstance and around 580 for food. Most places is a three year waiting list just to get on housing. So who is really getting all this money is what you should be asking.
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more people on welfare just means more people are broke as fuck OP has never lived, and wasn't born in, a bad environment, and neither have half of you! i was born to a mom who was broke as fuck.
I couldn't go to college, how was i supposed to? I worked 2 jobs and all my money went to keep a roof over our head, making at most 10 an hour. try and get a well paying job when you have no formal education and training, which all costs money!
I had to rely on the government assistance for food, because all my money was going to rent and gas to get to work! when you make 8.00gaspcry an hour and gas is 3.75 a gallon?
so all you privileged asses who have invaded GLP fuck off!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27715692


This rings true to me. Sorry it was/is that way for you. So you vote what you hope will keep the money pipe open. What is the answer or at least a start to getting you out of this ever perpetuating existence. Please I do want to hear as I feel your pain. And if a revolution takes place please help in ridding us of the evil politicians, bankers looters.
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The current economic system if folding world wide as we speak. It's over.
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$25.00 an hour ? average ??
according to who ? a top carpenter in new england was good for that in 2007. now many of those same carpenters are working for $15.00 hr.
i'm sure many more industrial workers have been affected. so where does this average come from ? in southern states those same top carpenters are at $12-15.00 an hour to begin with.
So that makes no sense
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Absolutely right, if you can get $25 an hour these days you are doing pretty good.
10 to 14 an hour is what most jobs pay in this neck of the woods, excluding Nepotism,Government and Union Jobs, but they are not really jobs.......just Hand Jobs.
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The propaganda war against the poor is being won.

Kill the 99%, those worthless scum!

Taxes are only to be used for the benefit of the ultra rich.
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WOW!!!
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Hawaii ???

I never would have guessed that.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


It's true, I live on the big island and have a friend that works security guard at the kealakekua office, he told me once that roughly 80% of food stamp recipients are people that applied as soon as they got off the plane(tourists, transplants etc..). He said, with no house and no job, they get emergency food stamps immediately, right then and their.

Perfect example of exploiting the system, thus manipulating the numbers. bunch of BS!

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wrong...i knew of a FAMILY, husband, wife, 2 kids who received welfare and food stamps...not a single mother
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Me too. they also get section 8 housing, poor things.
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1. Hawaii
2. California
3. New Mexico
4. Mississippi
5. Alabama
6. South Carolina
7. Kentucky
8. Illinois
9. Ohio
10. New York
11. Maine

Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other benefits, the average U.S. household below the poverty line received $168.00 a day in government support. What's the problem with that much support? Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000, which averages out to $137.13 a day.

To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of $30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.

[link to budget.senate.gov]


knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
 Quoting: davvi


I agree with this except that the median income in the U.S. is $30,000 a year for one person. It was higher in the 70s and 80s.
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wrong...i knew of a FAMILY, husband, wife, 2 kids who received welfare and food stamps...not a single mother
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Me too. they also get section 8 housing, poor things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28232375


I meant "me too", as in "I also know someone."

I have a j.o.b.
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The average job pays $12.25 an hour in the U.S.

People still can get survivable welfare but it does not equal $12.25 an hour. It is more than McDonalds though.

The U.S. is a slave wage country.
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propoganda
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I'm not surprised to see Maine on that list, as I live there.

Every job I see advertised is paying around 8 to 9 dollars an hour, and is part time with no benefits.

I struggle on my pay, which is just slightly better than that, but I am thankful that I don't have to work for 8 dollars an hour. That is what is expected now, regardless of your training, that you get paid a miniscule amount of money and you like it.

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The poor are evil, especially the hungry ones, and they must be destroyed.

The rich are good, they are angels, and they ride on unicorns.

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Are you people fucking retarded? There is no fucking list. The OP is a fucking dumb ass that fell for a stupid spam email. LOL
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[ Now did you add fullcoverage non deductable health insurance to you figures liveleak
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The poor are evil, especially the hungry ones, and they must be destroyed.

The rich are good, they are angels, and they ride on unicorns.

afro
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The idea that the rich are rich because God has blessed them and the poor are poor because they are evil will always be with us.

After all, the monkey with more fruit must have something goin' on, right? Maybe that was true back when he had to get fruit for himself, before his daddy gave all the fruit to him pre picked...
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It's impossible for this stat to be true as OP presented it. Simply because if people on welfare lived better than workers and there were more people on welfare than workers then it would take 100% of all workers money and then some to pay for the welfare programs. And since welfare less than 10% of the federal budget I call BS.
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Sounds like Sweden...
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This problem wrests solely on the artificial value of our currency. Our currency should be worth 1/4th what it is right now and has only remained high through manipulation.

So it makes everything needlessly expensive to do in the US all to keep the ill gotten gains of the top 1% from inflation.
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knowing this why is anyone surprised that president santa claus was re-elected?? romney promised to put people to work and provide jobs? pfft....why would anyone want a job?
 Quoting: davvi


1. Has it occurred to you at all that if GW Bush hadn't bankrupted your country, Obama wouldn't have been in such a ripe position to turn it into a welfare state? Just curious as to why he wasn't 'the enemy' while he was spending your country into the poorhouse and actually creating Big Brother departments like the TSA and Homeland Security? Because I know for a fact if Obama had created something called 'Homeland Security' you guys would be frothing at the mouth with end of the world herpaderp. But as long as the guy talking has an elephant on his jacket you seem to be fine with it.

2. If the Republican party would stop pandering to the crazies, drop the religious charade, stop being anti-science and anti-women, they might actually be able to get a president elected.

3. All politics aside, Romney was very clearly a corporate shill, whose demonstrated method of 'leadership' was to maximize the profits for the upper class (that's him and his buddies) at the expense of the lower class (that's you). Leopards don't change their spots, to think this guy was suddenly going to become a man of the people who respected the workforce is naive to say the least.
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Classic example of thread title being misleading. This info ties to a Forbes article. Those 11 states do not have more people on welfare than employed. Check your facts. This was chain letter-esque and you morans bit hook line and sinker. GLP you need to be better than that.

[link to www.politifact.com]
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Don't panic....we're in a recovery....LOLOLOL
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Yes, BUT...

To get all those goodies?

You need to be a SINGLE female WITH a child and a MEDICAL disability.

A single man can't get half of any of those goodies.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Agreed my sister in law falls under this category, she lies about how many kids she has living with her plus she gets the single men to live with her. She doesn't make as much as me but pretty close. It is very frustrating.

I would love to tell the state or someone about her but I don't for 2 reason 1 no one would listen. 2 I would hate if something happened to them kids. She has 5 and only 2 of them live with her.

It is very frustrating, to work my butt off and she doesn't but karma will get her when those kids turn 18 and then she is out on her ass, extremely fat ass I might add.
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How does she account for the extra kids? She would need social security numbers for them. I know a big scam is people getting ss numbers for other people's kids to use as dependents on their tax returns.

If she gets caught she will be arrested for fraud and thrown in jail....a whole lot of people cheat the system while people that genuinely need the help who've worked most or all of their lives are given the run around.
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