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If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?

 
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"She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong." Rv18
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The watchtower society is part of the same ungodly Babylonian system.

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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
The watchtower society is part of the same ungodly Babylonian system.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
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When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
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Your an fool if you can say who God forgives and doesn't...
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Your an fool if you can say who God forgives and doesn't...
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Hope you're not thinking that's what I'm saying. My post is regarding a previous statement by DGN that death forgives sin. My point is, pardon the cliche, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
The watchtower society is part of the same ungodly Babylonian system.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
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and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
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repent this butt
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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
The watchtower society is part of the same ungodly Babylonian system.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


From their OWN publications.

I used to BE a JW..I know all about their lies...thats why I am no longer a JW.

Ask them WHY armageddon didnt happen in 1975 like they said it would?

And all the other dozen or so dates thay gave for the end..and slo why their doctrine changes with each change of leadership within the governing body..and why their founder was a 33 degree nason and is buried under a pyamid just down the road from a masonic lodge..and the pyramid is covered with masonic symbols...and the pyramis is virtually the same one..complete with capstone..that the stanic illuminati loves so much.



Thusly..




And..





[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
The watchtower society is part of the same ungodly Babylonian system.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


From their OWN publications.

I used to BE a JW..I know all about their lies...thats why I am no longer a JW.

Ask them WHY armageddon didnt happen in 1975 like they said it would?

And all the other dozen or so dates thay gave for the end..and slo why their doctrine changes with each change of leadership within the governing body..and why their founder was a 33 degree nason and is buried under a pyamid just down the road from a masonic lodge..and the pyramid is covered with masonic symbols...and the pyramis is virtually the same one..complete with capstone..that the stanic illuminati loves so much.



Thusly..




And..





[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


From their OWN publications.

I used to BE a JW..I know all about their lies...thats why I am no longer a JW.

Ask them WHY armageddon didnt happen in 1975 like they said it would?

And all the other dozen or so dates thay gave for the end..and slo why their doctrine changes with each change of leadership within the governing body..and why their founder was a 33 degree nason and is buried under a pyamid just down the road from a masonic lodge..and the pyramid is covered with masonic symbols...and the pyramis is virtually the same one..complete with capstone..that the stanic illuminati loves so much.



Thusly..




And..






 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597




bump for DGN
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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
The watchtower society is part of the same ungodly Babylonian system.
 Quoting: Needles Eye


Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


From their OWN publications.

I used to BE a JW..I know all about their lies...thats why I am no longer a JW.

Ask them WHY armageddon didnt happen in 1975 like they said it would?

And all the other dozen or so dates thay gave for the end..and slo why their doctrine changes with each change of leadership within the governing body..and why their founder was a 33 degree nason and is buried under a pyamid just down the road from a masonic lodge..and the pyramid is covered with masonic symbols...and the pyramis is virtually the same one..complete with capstone..that the stanic illuminati loves so much.



Thusly..




And..





[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


Christ is the founder of True Christianity and he said:

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the Angels of heaven nor the Son, but only the Father...

Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming"- Matthew 24:36-42



so, we weasel out of serving God because a date came and went? Maybe self examination as to our motives for serving God should be the issue?
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As can be said with so many others - the Vatican will be the author of its own demise!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
 Quoting: Nine's


Present a quote.
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Read about Jonah and Nineveh.
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When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
 Quoting: Nine's


Present a quote.
 Quoting: DGN


Ask nicely.
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As can be said with so many others - the Vatican will be the author of its own demise!
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"For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong." Rv18:7
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Except it tells more LIES.

How many times have the so called "Governing Body"..who are ALL masons BTW..LIED and changed their doctrines over the last hundred years?

How many times did the tell their BRAINWASHED SLAVES..like DGN...to hand over their CASH and their TIME for LIE after LIE after LIE??

Hold on a moment..I have a MASSIVE LIST from their OWN PUBLICATIONS to post.

But no doubt DGN will pull the plug on this thread like he did the last one I tried to post the VERY LARGE list of their LIES.

This thread will vanish or be deletes in 3...

2...

1...

Because DGN is a COWARD,..and STILL cannot.."EXPPLAIN"..he HATES that word..he prefers his LIES!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


From their OWN publications.

I used to BE a JW..I know all about their lies...thats why I am no longer a JW.

Ask them WHY armageddon didnt happen in 1975 like they said it would?

And all the other dozen or so dates thay gave for the end..and slo why their doctrine changes with each change of leadership within the governing body..and why their founder was a 33 degree nason and is buried under a pyamid just down the road from a masonic lodge..and the pyramid is covered with masonic symbols...and the pyramis is virtually the same one..complete with capstone..that the stanic illuminati loves so much.



Thusly..




And..





[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


Christ is the founder of True Christianity and he said:

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the Angels of heaven nor the Son, but only the Father...

Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming"- Matthew 24:36-42



so, we weasel out of serving God because a date came and went? Maybe self examination as to our motives for serving God should be the issue?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Im not weaseling out of ANYTHING..and its more than just a date that came and went...its LOTS of dates that came and went.

PLUS


The founders are occultic..their doctrines are all occult..their jesus is just an ordinary man or an angel of light...and their whole motivation..like ALL satans motivations for the human race is SLAVERY..force..fear..control..all based on LIES.

If anyting..I am just sticking up for the TRUTH..something yeshua TOLD us to do..with no compromise.

If you do not expose lies...then you agree with them..and in agreeing with them..you hate the truth...and yeshua IS the truth.

By not standing FOR the truth..you do not stand for HIM..and in not standing FOR him..you stand against him..regardless of any "Nice" words you might say.
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As can be said with so many others - the Vatican will be the author of its own demise!
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"For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong." Rv18:7
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The end of the story was already written before the first words of the book were penned!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
 Quoting: Nine's


Present a quote.
 Quoting: DGN


Ask nicely.
 Quoting: Nine's


When Jehovah's prophesy of judgment on Babylon was revealed and he nicely warned her 'believers' to escape while they have time left, what did she say?
"“Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong."
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When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
 Quoting: Nine's


Present a quote.
 Quoting: DGN


Ask nicely.
 Quoting: Nine's


When Jehovah's prophesy of judgment on Babylon was revealed and he nicely warned her 'believers' to escape while they have time left, what did she say?
"“Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong."
 Quoting: DGN

I agree. That's why some people may be pointing things out to you but not wanting to say that you should read this scripture and apply it.

You haven't asked nicely and this doesn't have anything to do with the quote you asked me to post or asking for it nicely, like, "could you provide a quote," or "will you provide a quote," or "could you show me where I said that"
or, "do you have a link for that". That's asking nicely. Now you please ask nicely? That was a nice way to ask.
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and YOU learn truth from WHERE?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


From their OWN publications.

I used to BE a JW..I know all about their lies...thats why I am no longer a JW.

Ask them WHY armageddon didnt happen in 1975 like they said it would?

And all the other dozen or so dates thay gave for the end..and slo why their doctrine changes with each change of leadership within the governing body..and why their founder was a 33 degree nason and is buried under a pyamid just down the road from a masonic lodge..and the pyramid is covered with masonic symbols...and the pyramis is virtually the same one..complete with capstone..that the stanic illuminati loves so much.



Thusly..




And..





[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


Christ is the founder of True Christianity and he said:

Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the Angels of heaven nor the Son, but only the Father...

Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming"- Matthew 24:36-42



so, we weasel out of serving God because a date came and went? Maybe self examination as to our motives for serving God should be the issue?
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Im not weaseling out of ANYTHING..and its more than just a date that came and went...its LOTS of dates that came and went.

PLUS


The founders are occultic..their doctrines are all occult..their jesus is just an ordinary man or an angel of light...and their whole motivation..like ALL satans motivations for the human race is SLAVERY..force..fear..control..all based on LIES.

If anyting..I am just sticking up for the TRUTH..something yeshua TOLD us to do..with no compromise.

If you do not expose lies...then you agree with them..and in agreeing with them..you hate the truth...and yeshua IS the truth.

By not standing FOR the truth..you do not stand for HIM..and in not standing FOR him..you stand against him..regardless of any "Nice" words you might say.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17813597


The statement "their Jesus just an ordinary man"????

"For this reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth..."- Philippians 2:9, 10


and so, since you claim "standing for truth"- it is assumed you are partaking in Jesus command:

"This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth, as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come"- Matthew 24:14

??????
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to late.
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I'll pin your thread so I can keep track of it and not miss it in case you ask nicely...which I doubt because you don't really want it.
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LOOK I DON'T THINK CERN IS INTO BACK 2 THE FUTURE.

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GIORIA. ISN'T THAT SPELLED WRONG.

OH YEAH BUT WE NEEDED THAT C.

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If "IT" exists he is probably their ringleader.
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I'll pin your thread so I can keep track of it and not miss it in case you ask nicely...which I doubt because you don't really want it.
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Oh for crying out loud...
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When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
 Quoting: Nine's


Present a quote.
 Quoting: DGN


Ask nicely.
 Quoting: Nine's


It was a good chance for you to show you practice what you preach.

Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.

Here is the quote you demanded.


A man who stands alone amist traditional hellfire and brimstone preachers, and proclaims their lies to be blasphemy is likely to granted a very great privilege:

 Quoting: DGN

My Bible is pretty clear on what happens to false prophets.

Not for me to judge, but I'm glad to hear it because it means any of us can make it.

Raymond Franz will certainly have an exalted position. He fought corruption, lies, and didn't substitute with another false teaching.

God knows the heart, so guess it's not up to us to say. False prophets sometimes have some words of wisdom even if they don't apply it to themselves:

"A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it." Charles Russell in Zion's Watchtower, Feb. 1881,
p.3

You know what's ironic? I started researching things after you were obviously upset and told me there'd be no rewards for me because its for people who live Godly lives, or words to that effect, when I asked someone what "new light" was.

Made me think, hmmm, why did that upset him so much. Now I know.
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The new light Charles Russell brought to the world is hellfire is a lie. God forgives sin when the penalty is paid at death. Many millions still endorse satanic hellfire blasphemy:
" For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
 Quoting: DGN
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There is one HELL of a lot to repent for.....
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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
I'll pin your thread so I can keep track of it and not miss it in case you ask nicely...which I doubt because you don't really want it.
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Oh for crying out loud...
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You should be happy I remember what you say. tounge
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Re: If the popes repented would God spare the Vatican from total destruction?
When we were discussing Charles Russell, you said he'd be forgiven because death forgives sin (or words to that effect). If that's true, then why wouldn't the Vatican be forgiven when they die? Better hope so because if they aren't, then neither will the governing body. hf
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Present a quote.
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Ask nicely.
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It was a good chance for you to show you practice what you preach.

Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.

Here is the quote you demanded.


A man who stands alone amist traditional hellfire and brimstone preachers, and proclaims their lies to be blasphemy is likely to granted a very great privilege:

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My Bible is pretty clear on what happens to false prophets.

Not for me to judge, but I'm glad to hear it because it means any of us can make it.

Raymond Franz will certainly have an exalted position. He fought corruption, lies, and didn't substitute with another false teaching.

God knows the heart, so guess it's not up to us to say. False prophets sometimes have some words of wisdom even if they don't apply it to themselves:

"A new view of truth never can contradict a former truth. "New light" never extinguishes older "light" but adds to it." Charles Russell in Zion's Watchtower, Feb. 1881,
p.3

You know what's ironic? I started researching things after you were obviously upset and told me there'd be no rewards for me because its for people who live Godly lives, or words to that effect, when I asked someone what "new light" was.

Made me think, hmmm, why did that upset him so much. Now I know.
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The new light Charles Russell brought to the world is hellfire is a lie. God forgives sin when the penalty is paid at death. Many millions still endorse satanic hellfire blasphemy:
" For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin." Ro6:7
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May the good Lord sign me up for that. You?

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