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Oldest references to the illuminati

 
Anonymous Coward
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Oldest references to the illuminati
What is the oldest source you know of that mentions or talks about the illuminati?

Who knows the oldest?
Ford44

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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
It was a club formed in Bavaria in 1776 by a man named Adam Wiesthupt. They were kicked out of the country.

There is no proof of a connection between groups like Bbilderburg, Bohemian Grove, and Skull & Bones to the Illuminati. It's just a name given to something that we don't know the true name of.
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
George Washington: 1798

“It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am.”
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
thanks


anymore
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11 000 b.c.....

first group to rule openly - like monarchs...
second group to guide humanity "from side"....
Gigolo Jesus

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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
It was a club formed in Bavaria in 1776 by a man named Adam Wiesthupt. They were kicked out of the country.

There is no proof of a connection between groups like Bbilderburg, Bohemian Grove, and Skull & Bones to the Illuminati. It's just a name given to something that we don't know the true name of.
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What he said.
"The man who reads nothing is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." ~Thomas Jefferson
Ford44

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03/05/2013 04:26 PM

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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
The oldest Google news referrence is from around 1890.

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03/05/2013 04:46 PM
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
The oldest Google news referrence is from around 1890.

[link to news.google.com]
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The oldest Google news referrence is from around 1890.

[link to news.google.com]
 Quoting: Ford44


Anyone noticed this ?
Date: March 22
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
thanks guys,



what about illuminati symobology in old movies, cartoons etc?
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From the Illuminatus! trilogy, which should be required reading for every conspiracy aficionado. The story goes that Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea were editors at Playboy, so they had a huge research staff and too much time on their hands... so they used the resources to search down a huge amount of conspiracy lore and created a story surrounding it. Much of what's mentioned in the fiction is actual fact, but then most of history is, as well.

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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
Jacobins became Communists.


They oppose the Bourgeoisie, otherwise known as the Elite.
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03/06/2013 10:35 AM

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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
George Washington: 1798

“It is not my intention to doubt that the doctrine of the Illuminati and the principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more satisfied of this fact than I am.”
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
George Washington was talking about Collectivism.


The Enemy of Liberty.
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
The oldest Google news referrence is from around 1890.

[link to news.google.com]
 Quoting: Ford44


The oldest Google news referrence is from around 1890.

[link to news.google.com]
 Quoting: Ford44


Anyone noticed this ?
Date: March 22
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33274985


How did I miss that? lolsign
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Re: Oldest references to the illuminati
George Washington was talking about Collectivism.


The Enemy of Liberty.
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Is personal liberty the enemy of peace and love? United we stand and divided we fall?
Regards,

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