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In a letter to Paul dated on Monday, Holder said it was possible, "I suppose," to imagine an "extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate" under U.S. law for the president to authorize the military to "use lethal force" within the United States.
However, Holder said the question was "entirely hypothetical" and "unlikely to occur."
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The United States, he said, has not carried out such action domestically and had no plans to do so.
Holder said a potential scenario might involve a president ordering such action "to protect the homeland" in a case like the 2001 al Qaeda attacks on New York and Washington or the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in 1941.
But he said the administration rejects the use of military force where law enforcement authorities provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat.

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THIS needs to be pinned!

Fellow Patriots, the highest attorney in the land just claimed the President has the legal, constitutional right to kill anyone he wants within the United States.


We as Americans are charged with defending our Republic from all threats...foreign and domestic.
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Read it for yourself!!!!


This needs a pin! Everyone NEEDS to see this!!!!!
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The president can now turn your ass into an ashheap by nintendo controller via drone strike.

Constitution means nada anymore. Hold on to your hats
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um why is this news? It's for your own safety cause 9/11 chuckle
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These traitors needs an education.
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Bring it on, Eric Assholer. You, your boss Valerie and Obama are the TRUE THREAT to this nation. Fuck you and your drones.
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Dystopian.

No longer a future reality, it is now our current one.
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Just one of the hazards of runaway tyrants playing with technology they haven't mastered. Will there be collateral damage with any strikes that occur here? The masses can't put two and two together and realize that, if we kill wedding parties in Afghanistan by "accident", it could possibly happen here? Damn it, why, how can there be no mass outcry? Are we really dead, and haven't realized it yet?
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This *needs* a pin! Mods, please!!!
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Eric Holder admits U.S. CAN USE DRONES TO KILL AMERICANS ON U.S. SOIL!!!!!!!!!
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Mods, I will use a green flag....because this NEEDS TO BE SEEN BY ALL THE GLP'eople!
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Go here:

[link to www.congress.org]

Send a letter to your representatives in Washington DC:

Feel free to copy-paste this... I did:

Representative X, Senators Y and Z:

cc: President Obama

I am greeted with this CNN headline here:

[link to www.cnn.com]

"Holder does not rule out drone strike scenario in U.S."

"Washington (CNN) -- Attorney General Eric Holder is not entirely ruling out a scenario under which a drone strike would be ordered against Americans on U.S. soil, but says it has never been done previously and he could only see it being considered in an extraordinary circumstance."

I am protesting this total and completely INSANE VIOLATION of such things as:

a) the Magna Carta
b) the US Constitution
c) substantive due process
d) violation of US Code Section 18

You cannot possibly believe that the Department of Justice (is this a irony?) can order the murder of Americans in American with drones without any due process whatsoever on the hunch that that American might harbor some opinions contrary to the "dear leaders?"

Have I woken in North Korea?

Have I awakened to find myself in NAZI Germany in 1942?

What is next? Treblinka, Buckenwald, Auschwitz?

I demand you remove Eric Holder from power immediately.

I demand that if the President Obama does not do so that you immediately file, Representative X, a bill of impeachment of this President.

I demand a full report from you all immediately in writing so that I may send same far-and-wide so that we will know the beliefs of our representatives.

Thank you.
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I didnt expect the MSM to say when obama will take such a major step toward absoulte power over america... quite suprising.
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we all know that, first the muslims, then the sister fucking AR loving rednecks. No secret here.
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So let's add it all up now.

Russia is talking about nuking the US

N. Korea is talking about nuking the US

China is looking at uping their military efforts

The mid-east wants to nuke the US

and now the US is talking about attacking the US with its drones. I hope it starts with the Capital in DC and just eliminates all the traitors who have taken it over first.
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Not only will they kill you with drones in the air, they will also kill you all of the Fast & Furious guns.

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Not only will they kill you with drones in the air, they will also kill you all of the Fast & Furious guns.

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and squish you with thousand DHS tanks
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This is total bullshit. With the Homeland Security buying billions of bullets, thousands of MRAPS and now we have Eric Holder saying its legal to kill Americans in America with drones its pretty obvious they are going to try to kill a lot of us. At what point do we take a stand against this??
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from the article:

In a letter to Paul dated on Monday, Holder said it was possible, "I suppose," to imagine an "extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate" under U.S. law for the president to authorize the military to "use lethal force" within the United States.
However, Holder said the question was "entirely hypothetical" and "unlikely to occur."
A 'thought war' over drones Al Qaeda's guide to avoiding drones
The United States, he said, has not carried out such action domestically and had no plans to do so.
Holder said a potential scenario might involve a president ordering such action "to protect the homeland" in a case like the 2001 al Qaeda attacks on New York and Washington or the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in 1941.
But he said the administration rejects the use of military force where law enforcement authorities provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat.

 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


"I suppose, there is no fucking extraordinary circumstances what-so-ever, that gives That Fuck Obama any right at all to use Military drones, Troops, equipment or any-fucking-thing-else against US Citizens within the United States other than, abolishion of the United States of America".

Which, we all know is his plan, so yeah, I guess I could understand why Eric Holder would be led to make that statement. It simply further solidifies what we all already knew. Obama wants to destroy America, he hates democracy a nd is simply the spokesperson for the elitists who actually control this country. I actually saw a drone flying over I-90 last week. It was a full size striker drone too, not one of those little fucking remote control helicopters. But then again, we have a base nereby that they fly drones from so I guess it makes sense to start cruizing your "target" area for familiarization purposes before the actual battle begins.
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THIS is why the Second Amendment exists.

THIS is tyranny.

We had the spin story yesterday about patriot groups being extremists and a threat.

They're painting the picture that the nation is as it was pre- Oklahoma city.

They're shaping the story and defining their "enemy".

It is anyone who believes in the Constitution, as it is written.

It is anyone who believes in the Bill of Rights, as it is written.

It is anyone who believes in individual liberty, that gun rights are civil rights, and that the ability to disagree and rail against policies which go counter to their agenda.

Anyone who believes that the people are the authority and that they work for us, is their enemy.

Anyone who believes that they must adhere to the same laws they force us to live under is their enemy.

Anyone who believes that the Attorney General must apply the law equally is their enemy.

The list goes on, but the bottom line is they are writing the definitions and figuring out who it is among us that falls under that category of having "mental health issues"... like our veterans... and why we should not have the freedom to have arms.

Bastards.
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Holder says it's "hypothetical and unlikely"

Right. Until it isn't. Until they decide to.

A WTC attack was hypothetical and unlikely until they decided it was a world-class option play.
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What most American's don't understand now is that their president has the power to basically do anything he wants due to a few bills passed and the Patriot Act, which gives him supreme power while the nation is under attack, and America is currently at war with terrorism, which has been declared a 'legal war'. And they always will be at war with terrorism, so therefore, the president has executive power to do as he pleases at all times.

However, to maintain the illusion that the pres doesn't have that power, he continues to pass things through the senate and house, and they eventually get pushed through according to his agenda. However, on occasion, the people have spoken out against the president's agenda, and the president has exercised his power. How do you think 2 bailouts have been pushed through against the house? And next day at that as well... Think about it. The pres can do anything at any time, but is being very diplomatic about it.
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from the article:

In a letter to Paul dated on Monday, Holder said it was possible, "I suppose," to imagine an "extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate" under U.S. law for the president to authorize the military to "use lethal force" within the United States.
However, Holder said the question was "entirely hypothetical" and "unlikely to occur."
A 'thought war' over drones Al Qaeda's guide to avoiding drones
The United States, he said, has not carried out such action domestically and had no plans to do so.
Holder said a potential scenario might involve a president ordering such action "to protect the homeland" in a case like the 2001 al Qaeda attacks on New York and Washington or the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor in 1941.
But he said the administration rejects the use of military force where law enforcement authorities provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat.

 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


"I suppose, there is no fucking extraordinary circumstances what-so-ever, that gives That Fuck Obama any right at all to use Military drones, Troops, equipment or any-fucking-thing-else against US Citizens within the United States other than, abolishion of the United States of America".

Which, we all know is his plan, so yeah, I guess I could understand why Eric Holder would be led to make that statement. It simply further solidifies what we all already knew. Obama wants to destroy America, he hates democracy a nd is simply the spokesperson for the elitists who actually control this country. I actually saw a drone flying over I-90 last week. It was a full size striker drone too, not one of those little fucking remote control helicopters. But then again, we have a base nereby that they fly drones from so I guess it makes sense to start cruizing your "target" area for familiarization purposes before the actual battle begins.
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Quite often the message is hidden within what ISN'T said. The red highlighted portion hints at Holder's delineation between Military and Law Enforcement, allowing them to head off any accusations of violating Posse Comitatus or raising the brow on any other perceived "military action" within the bounds of the US.

DHS (and it's various branches and departments) is not military (DOD), nor would they fall under such guidelines or restrictions, nor would any branch of the DOJ. In addition; nor would any of the numerous state or local municipalities that have elected to enlist the use of drones as of late.

This has been planned for quite a while, and now you can begin to see why DHS has been created as a separate department that actually merges many attributes of DOD and DOJ, while receiving the benefit of technological developments, hardware, and even personnel support of other .gov branches.

As usual, this is nothing less than double speak out of DC that amounts to nothing more than window dressing that will be peered upon by the masses as gospel because "surely the government/ Holder wouldn't lie to the citizenry".
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THIS is why the Second Amendment exists.

THIS is tyranny.

We had the spin story yesterday about patriot groups being extremists and a threat.

They're painting the picture that the nation is as it was pre- Oklahoma city.

They're shaping the story and defining their "enemy".

It is anyone who believes in the Constitution, as it is written.

It is anyone who believes in the Bill of Rights, as it is written.

It is anyone who believes in individual liberty, that gun rights are civil rights, and that the ability to disagree and rail against policies which go counter to their agenda.

Anyone who believes that the people are the authority and that they work for us, is their enemy.

Anyone who believes that they must adhere to the same laws they force us to live under is their enemy.

Anyone who believes that the Attorney General must apply the law equally is their enemy.

The list goes on, but the bottom line is they are writing the definitions and figuring out who it is among us that falls under that category of having "mental health issues"... like our veterans... and why we should not have the freedom to have arms.

Bastards.
 Quoting: An Average American Patriot



Anti gun tard, liberal, left wing looney, Canuck here saying....... you nailed it.
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and that ain't all....hunt the story down and u will find out for yourselfs how ugly this is gonna get..
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"The United States, he said, has not carried out such action domestically and had no plans to do so."

Just like Bernanke had "no plans" to print money.

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