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Obama has no control over USA Army.

They will shoot him if he keeps nagging them.
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isnt the west bank part of Palestine?? so wats the problem??? its Palestinian territory
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There never was a "Palestine", and there isn't one today. Squatters have no territorial rights.
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Palestinians are the original semites. Palestinians are closer to the like of Jesus than modern white khazar jews are. The modern Khazars are the squatters, not the Palestinians.
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isnt the west bank part of Palestine?? so wats the problem??? its Palestinian territory
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There never was a "Palestine", and there isn't one today. Squatters have no territorial rights.
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Considering that JEWS are not from ISRAEL id say the squatters should get the fuck up and leave.
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The Jews are NOT from what is now knows as Israel? You are kidding, right?

I believe the argument was settled more than 60 years ago when the United Nations recognized Israel as a state... and pretty much solidifed when they got nukes.

Good luck trying to undo what has been done, as it will be costly.

At some point, 'you' have to get over it, and move on. My grandparents did that 100 years ago, when they, Muslims, left what is now part of Lebanon and moved to the USA. 100 years ago because that is when the 'zionist' movement was building in that area, and they saw what was coming.

They settled in North Dakota and raised 10 kids... they moved on, literally and figuratively.

If they can do it, you can too...
 Quoting: TraderRob


Granted, Jew-haters are very retarded, hateful people, but Israeli-haters make them look like child's play, LOL. They tried SO hard to try to de-ligitimize Israel and, consequently, justify their many attempted massacres of Israel.... and in the process, the haters only look MORE pathetic, sick & borderline evil.

Guess what? None of it matters because

1) DNA studies have linked many "European" Jews with their ancesors (who, again, were FORCED out by Romans, so their claims still stand and pre-date those of Muslims). And that's some feat considering how many pogroms, massacres, persecutions & forced conversions that 2,000 year Exile threw at the Jews----> culminating in the Holocaust, its some 40 THOUSAND concentration camps, ghettos and extrermination facilities...... A lesser religion-nation-culture would have gone EXTINCT long time ago, much like Philistines & Canaan had among countless others. But now the Jews, they literally rose out of the ashes like a phoenix.

2) Even if "Khazars" weren't really related to the original Israelites... it does NOT matter, because Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves as Jews AND Israel religious authorities consider them to be Jews. Guess what that means? They are JEWS, duh! Because, you see, Israel is an independent, sovereign nation-state, and as such it is NOT up to various Jew-haters to decide who is a "legitimate" Jew and who isn't. Double duh!

3) Land has NO racial/ethnic identity. A blond-and-blue-eyed Jewish baby born in Israel not just has the same right as as a "brown" Palestinian kept purposefully in refugee camps by his Arab brothers ---> in fact, that baby has MORE rights because THE BABY WAS BORN INTO ISRAEL AND IS ISRAELI CITIZEN. Period. End of story. Get over it.

4) Jews paid 5 times the land value to absentee Ottoman landlords 100 years ago; and turned the malaria-stricken, swampy, desert shithole into a veritable oasis, Start-Up nation, despite all wars, pogroms & terrorism & boycotts waged agains it for decades.... While all Arab squatting bedouin did in those days was go from water-well to water-well and kill each other's rival tribes ----> and originally they are from Arab peninsula, Egypt, etc, i.e. not from the land, so I don't want to hear snide bullshit about how only Jews came from Europe, LOL.

5) History, bible, archeology.... League of Nations, UN founding charter Article 80... even the UNSC Resolution 242 that serves as the framework for the Olso Accords that Palestinians have repeatedly violated, most recently at the UNGA in November... they ALL show clear superiority if not an outright EXCLUSIVITY of the Jewish claims to the land. No billions of dollars of Muslim oil propaganda will change that.
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You know, instead of being a conspiracy, Obama could just not support what Israel is doing. Which would undoubtedly explain why they've allowed so much propaganda to be released about him, like that movie. If a Rothschild calls you an elitist, you're likely not rolling with them. Tired of seeing people here being so narrow-minded.
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There never was a "Palestine", and there isn't one today. Squatters have no territorial rights.
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Considering that JEWS are not from ISRAEL id say the squatters should get the fuck up and leave.
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The Jews are NOT from what is now knows as Israel? You are kidding, right?

I believe the argument was settled more than 60 years ago when the United Nations recognized Israel as a state... and pretty much solidifed when they got nukes.

Good luck trying to undo what has been done, as it will be costly.

At some point, 'you' have to get over it, and move on. My grandparents did that 100 years ago, when they, Muslims, left what is now part of Lebanon and moved to the USA. 100 years ago because that is when the 'zionist' movement was building in that area, and they saw what was coming.

They settled in North Dakota and raised 10 kids... they moved on, literally and figuratively.

If they can do it, you can too...
 Quoting: TraderRob


Granted, Jew-haters are very retarded, hateful people, but Israeli-haters make them look like child's play, LOL. They tried SO hard to try to de-ligitimize Israel and, consequently, justify their many attempted massacres of Israel.... and in the process, the haters only look MORE pathetic, sick & borderline evil.

Guess what? None of it matters because

1) DNA studies have linked many "European" Jews with their ancesors (who, again, were FORCED out by Romans, so their claims still stand and pre-date those of Muslims). And that's some feat considering how many pogroms, massacres, persecutions & forced conversions that 2,000 year Exile threw at the Jews----> culminating in the Holocaust, its some 40 THOUSAND concentration camps, ghettos and extrermination facilities...... A lesser religion-nation-culture would have gone EXTINCT long time ago, much like Philistines & Canaan had among countless others. But now the Jews, they literally rose out of the ashes like a phoenix.

2) Even if "Khazars" weren't really related to the original Israelites... it does NOT matter, because Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves as Jews AND Israel religious authorities consider them to be Jews. Guess what that means? They are JEWS, duh! Because, you see, Israel is an independent, sovereign nation-state, and as such it is NOT up to various Jew-haters to decide who is a "legitimate" Jew and who isn't. Double duh!

3) Land has NO racial/ethnic identity. A blond-and-blue-eyed Jewish baby born in Israel not just has the same right as as a "brown" Palestinian kept purposefully in refugee camps by his Arab brothers ---> in fact, that baby has MORE rights because THE BABY WAS BORN INTO ISRAEL AND IS ISRAELI CITIZEN. Period. End of story. Get over it.

4) Jews paid 5 times the land value to absentee Ottoman landlords 100 years ago; and turned the malaria-stricken, swampy, desert shithole into a veritable oasis, Start-Up nation, despite all wars, pogroms & terrorism & boycotts waged agains it for decades.... While all Arab squatting bedouin did in those days was go from water-well to water-well and kill each other's rival tribes ----> and originally they are from Arab peninsula, Egypt, etc, i.e. not from the land, so I don't want to hear snide bullshit about how only Jews came from Europe, LOL.

5) History, bible, archeology.... League of Nations, UN founding charter Article 80... even the UNSC Resolution 242 that serves as the framework for the Olso Accords that Palestinians have repeatedly violated, most recently at the UNGA in November... they ALL show clear superiority if not an outright EXCLUSIVITY of the Jewish claims to the land. No billions of dollars of Muslim oil propaganda will change that.
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So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? Yugoslavia got split up when they were against it, other countries have been split up when they were against it, so why not Israel, hmmmmmmm?
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isnt the west bank part of Palestine?? so wats the problem??? its Palestinian territory
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It is NOT.

See:

-League of Nations
-San Remo
-United Nations founding Charter (Article 80)
-Eugene Rostow op-ed (he's the author of UNSC Res 242)
-Oslo Accords, Area 'C' (Oslo Accords used UNSC Res 242 as blueprint, btw)


(And before you invoke last Novemeber.....UN General Assembly popularity-contest votes are NOT legally enforceable or even valid. Especially since they clearly VIOLATE all the relevant, legally-binding decisions & precedent listed above.)



Palestinians had multip,e chances to negotiate in good faith. They failed. They waged war & terror. Literally every day, including heavy rocks & molotov cocktail at Jewish civilians. Because that's all their genocidal inciting schools, media & leaders know. They know they are frauds deep down; they know they can't run a succussful nation-state ---- and never have in history!

So Arafat, Abbas, Ashrawi and Co would much rather bilk their own people out of billions of foreign aid... and keep the intense, bloody conflict with Jews going.

And you're being a typical useful-idiot who helps them get away with this craven strategu. For shame, yo.
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obama is the sunni caliph.
we even showed it by wearing the blue turban.
noone cares....
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Considering that JEWS are not from ISRAEL id say the squatters should get the fuck up and leave.
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The Jews are NOT from what is now knows as Israel? You are kidding, right?

I believe the argument was settled more than 60 years ago when the United Nations recognized Israel as a state... and pretty much solidifed when they got nukes.

Good luck trying to undo what has been done, as it will be costly.

At some point, 'you' have to get over it, and move on. My grandparents did that 100 years ago, when they, Muslims, left what is now part of Lebanon and moved to the USA. 100 years ago because that is when the 'zionist' movement was building in that area, and they saw what was coming.

They settled in North Dakota and raised 10 kids... they moved on, literally and figuratively.

If they can do it, you can too...
 Quoting: TraderRob


Granted, Jew-haters are very retarded, hateful people, but Israeli-haters make them look like child's play, LOL. They tried SO hard to try to de-ligitimize Israel and, consequently, justify their many attempted massacres of Israel.... and in the process, the haters only look MORE pathetic, sick & borderline evil.

Guess what? None of it matters because

1) DNA studies have linked many "European" Jews with their ancesors (who, again, were FORCED out by Romans, so their claims still stand and pre-date those of Muslims). And that's some feat considering how many pogroms, massacres, persecutions & forced conversions that 2,000 year Exile threw at the Jews----> culminating in the Holocaust, its some 40 THOUSAND concentration camps, ghettos and extrermination facilities...... A lesser religion-nation-culture would have gone EXTINCT long time ago, much like Philistines & Canaan had among countless others. But now the Jews, they literally rose out of the ashes like a phoenix.

2) Even if "Khazars" weren't really related to the original Israelites... it does NOT matter, because Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves as Jews AND Israel religious authorities consider them to be Jews. Guess what that means? They are JEWS, duh! Because, you see, Israel is an independent, sovereign nation-state, and as such it is NOT up to various Jew-haters to decide who is a "legitimate" Jew and who isn't. Double duh!

3) Land has NO racial/ethnic identity. A blond-and-blue-eyed Jewish baby born in Israel not just has the same right as as a "brown" Palestinian kept purposefully in refugee camps by his Arab brothers ---> in fact, that baby has MORE rights because THE BABY WAS BORN INTO ISRAEL AND IS ISRAELI CITIZEN. Period. End of story. Get over it.

4) Jews paid 5 times the land value to absentee Ottoman landlords 100 years ago; and turned the malaria-stricken, swampy, desert shithole into a veritable oasis, Start-Up nation, despite all wars, pogroms & terrorism & boycotts waged agains it for decades.... While all Arab squatting bedouin did in those days was go from water-well to water-well and kill each other's rival tribes ----> and originally they are from Arab peninsula, Egypt, etc, i.e. not from the land, so I don't want to hear snide bullshit about how only Jews came from Europe, LOL.

5) History, bible, archeology.... League of Nations, UN founding charter Article 80... even the UNSC Resolution 242 that serves as the framework for the Olso Accords that Palestinians have repeatedly violated, most recently at the UNGA in November... they ALL show clear superiority if not an outright EXCLUSIVITY of the Jewish claims to the land. No billions of dollars of Muslim oil propaganda will change that.
 Quoting: ASV 35656725


So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? Yugoslavia got split up when they were against it, other countries have been split up when they were against it, so why not Israel, hmmmmmmm?
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If you knew anything about anything.. you wouldn't even be asking such a spectacularly DUMB, non-sequiturish, uber-loaded sorry excuse for a question.

Incidentally, Palestinians already HAVE a country. It's called Jordan. It's more than twice as big as Israel. It has more fertile land than Israel. In fact, Jordan sits atop land that League of Nations originally designated for Israel ----> and Jordan still couldn't help themselves but attack and try to throw neighboring Jews into the sea in 1948..... In fact, come to think of it, Israel is being so nice NOT asking for modern Jordan or Syria lands back -- again, as per original partition plans by the victors of World War I, the british, french who were tasked by League of Nations to administer the Levant (and how susequently got bribed by Arab oil to break their commitment to the Jews)

In fact, Jordan is some 70% ethnically Palestinian. Though strangely enough, when Jordan illegally occupied East Jerusalem in 1949-1967 and horrifically ethnically cleansed the Jews, synagogues, ancient cemetaries therein even.... somehow the "world community" didn't issue gazzillion condemnations or resolutions, just because the victims were Jews, funny how that works, huh....

Sorry, that tiny strip of land in Levant is Israel's/Jewish. Any way you spin it. And that's before considering Pali terror & wars & incitement with which they "thanked" the Jews who employed them and provided other assistence/aid.

Again, only more slowly this time: after their 1,400 years worth of conquest, mass-murder, mass-rape & destruction of local ethnicities, religions, cultures.... Muslims already control 99% of Middle East and 99.9 % of its natural resources. They can go pound sand as far as Israel is concerned.

So you and Allah cry me a water-fall, fool.
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Bibi should give Obama a timetable when he'll destroy Mecca. That will get his attention.
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The Jews are NOT from what is now knows as Israel? You are kidding, right?

I believe the argument was settled more than 60 years ago when the United Nations recognized Israel as a state... and pretty much solidifed when they got nukes.

Good luck trying to undo what has been done, as it will be costly.

At some point, 'you' have to get over it, and move on. My grandparents did that 100 years ago, when they, Muslims, left what is now part of Lebanon and moved to the USA. 100 years ago because that is when the 'zionist' movement was building in that area, and they saw what was coming.

They settled in North Dakota and raised 10 kids... they moved on, literally and figuratively.

If they can do it, you can too...
 Quoting: TraderRob


Granted, Jew-haters are very retarded, hateful people, but Israeli-haters make them look like child's play, LOL. They tried SO hard to try to de-ligitimize Israel and, consequently, justify their many attempted massacres of Israel.... and in the process, the haters only look MORE pathetic, sick & borderline evil.

Guess what? None of it matters because

1) DNA studies have linked many "European" Jews with their ancesors (who, again, were FORCED out by Romans, so their claims still stand and pre-date those of Muslims). And that's some feat considering how many pogroms, massacres, persecutions & forced conversions that 2,000 year Exile threw at the Jews----> culminating in the Holocaust, its some 40 THOUSAND concentration camps, ghettos and extrermination facilities...... A lesser religion-nation-culture would have gone EXTINCT long time ago, much like Philistines & Canaan had among countless others. But now the Jews, they literally rose out of the ashes like a phoenix.

2) Even if "Khazars" weren't really related to the original Israelites... it does NOT matter, because Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves as Jews AND Israel religious authorities consider them to be Jews. Guess what that means? They are JEWS, duh! Because, you see, Israel is an independent, sovereign nation-state, and as such it is NOT up to various Jew-haters to decide who is a "legitimate" Jew and who isn't. Double duh!

3) Land has NO racial/ethnic identity. A blond-and-blue-eyed Jewish baby born in Israel not just has the same right as as a "brown" Palestinian kept purposefully in refugee camps by his Arab brothers ---> in fact, that baby has MORE rights because THE BABY WAS BORN INTO ISRAEL AND IS ISRAELI CITIZEN. Period. End of story. Get over it.

4) Jews paid 5 times the land value to absentee Ottoman landlords 100 years ago; and turned the malaria-stricken, swampy, desert shithole into a veritable oasis, Start-Up nation, despite all wars, pogroms & terrorism & boycotts waged agains it for decades.... While all Arab squatting bedouin did in those days was go from water-well to water-well and kill each other's rival tribes ----> and originally they are from Arab peninsula, Egypt, etc, i.e. not from the land, so I don't want to hear snide bullshit about how only Jews came from Europe, LOL.

5) History, bible, archeology.... League of Nations, UN founding charter Article 80... even the UNSC Resolution 242 that serves as the framework for the Olso Accords that Palestinians have repeatedly violated, most recently at the UNGA in November... they ALL show clear superiority if not an outright EXCLUSIVITY of the Jewish claims to the land. No billions of dollars of Muslim oil propaganda will change that.
 Quoting: ASV 35656725


So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? Yugoslavia got split up when they were against it, other countries have been split up when they were against it, so why not Israel, hmmmmmmm?
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If you knew anything about anything.. you wouldn't even be asking such a spectacularly DUMB, non-sequiturish, uber-loaded sorry excuse for a question.

Incidentally, Palestinians already HAVE a country. It's called Jordan. It's more than twice as big as Israel. It has more fertile land than Israel. In fact, Jordan sits atop land that League of Nations originally designated for Israel ----> and Jordan still couldn't help themselves but attack and try to throw neighboring Jews into the sea in 1948..... In fact, come to think of it, Israel is being so nice NOT asking for modern Jordan or Syria lands back -- again, as per original partition plans by the victors of World War I, the british, french who were tasked by League of Nations to administer the Levant (and how susequently got bribed by Arab oil to break their commitment to the Jews)

In fact, Jordan is some 70% ethnically Palestinian. Though strangely enough, when Jordan illegally occupied East Jerusalem in 1949-1967 and horrifically ethnically cleansed the Jews, synagogues, ancient cemetaries therein even.... somehow the "world community" didn't issue gazzillion condemnations or resolutions, just because the victims were Jews, funny how that works, huh....

Sorry, that tiny strip of land in Levant is Israel's/Jewish. Any way you spin it. And that's before considering Pali terror & wars & incitement with which they "thanked" the Jews who employed them and provided other assistence/aid.

Again, only more slowly this time: after their 1,400 years worth of conquest, mass-murder, mass-rape & destruction of local ethnicities, religions, cultures.... Muslims already control 99% of Middle East and 99.9 % of its natural resources. They can go pound sand as far as Israel is concerned.

So you and Allah cry me a water-fall, fool.
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Obama coming to jerusalem 5 days before passover riding a donkey(the democrat symbol) and visiting the temple mount with the goal of destroying israel(giving judea and samaria to the muslim brotherhood).

Amazing.hiding
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Granted, Jew-haters are very retarded, hateful people, but Israeli-haters make them look like child's play, LOL. They tried SO hard to try to de-ligitimize Israel and, consequently, justify their many attempted massacres of Israel.... and in the process, the haters only look MORE pathetic, sick & borderline evil.

Guess what? None of it matters because

1) DNA studies have linked many "European" Jews with their ancesors (who, again, were FORCED out by Romans, so their claims still stand and pre-date those of Muslims). And that's some feat considering how many pogroms, massacres, persecutions & forced conversions that 2,000 year Exile threw at the Jews----> culminating in the Holocaust, its some 40 THOUSAND concentration camps, ghettos and extrermination facilities...... A lesser religion-nation-culture would have gone EXTINCT long time ago, much like Philistines & Canaan had among countless others. But now the Jews, they literally rose out of the ashes like a phoenix.

2) Even if "Khazars" weren't really related to the original Israelites... it does NOT matter, because Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves as Jews AND Israel religious authorities consider them to be Jews. Guess what that means? They are JEWS, duh! Because, you see, Israel is an independent, sovereign nation-state, and as such it is NOT up to various Jew-haters to decide who is a "legitimate" Jew and who isn't. Double duh!

3) Land has NO racial/ethnic identity. A blond-and-blue-eyed Jewish baby born in Israel not just has the same right as as a "brown" Palestinian kept purposefully in refugee camps by his Arab brothers ---> in fact, that baby has MORE rights because THE BABY WAS BORN INTO ISRAEL AND IS ISRAELI CITIZEN. Period. End of story. Get over it.

4) Jews paid 5 times the land value to absentee Ottoman landlords 100 years ago; and turned the malaria-stricken, swampy, desert shithole into a veritable oasis, Start-Up nation, despite all wars, pogroms & terrorism & boycotts waged agains it for decades.... While all Arab squatting bedouin did in those days was go from water-well to water-well and kill each other's rival tribes ----> and originally they are from Arab peninsula, Egypt, etc, i.e. not from the land, so I don't want to hear snide bullshit about how only Jews came from Europe, LOL.

5) History, bible, archeology.... League of Nations, UN founding charter Article 80... even the UNSC Resolution 242 that serves as the framework for the Olso Accords that Palestinians have repeatedly violated, most recently at the UNGA in November... they ALL show clear superiority if not an outright EXCLUSIVITY of the Jewish claims to the land. No billions of dollars of Muslim oil propaganda will change that.
 Quoting: ASV 35656725


So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? Yugoslavia got split up when they were against it, other countries have been split up when they were against it, so why not Israel, hmmmmmmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


If you knew anything about anything.. you wouldn't even be asking such a spectacularly DUMB, non-sequiturish, uber-loaded sorry excuse for a question.

Incidentally, Palestinians already HAVE a country. It's called Jordan. It's more than twice as big as Israel. It has more fertile land than Israel. In fact, Jordan sits atop land that League of Nations originally designated for Israel ----> and Jordan still couldn't help themselves but attack and try to throw neighboring Jews into the sea in 1948..... In fact, come to think of it, Israel is being so nice NOT asking for modern Jordan or Syria lands back -- again, as per original partition plans by the victors of World War I, the british, french who were tasked by League of Nations to administer the Levant (and how susequently got bribed by Arab oil to break their commitment to the Jews)

In fact, Jordan is some 70% ethnically Palestinian. Though strangely enough, when Jordan illegally occupied East Jerusalem in 1949-1967 and horrifically ethnically cleansed the Jews, synagogues, ancient cemetaries therein even.... somehow the "world community" didn't issue gazzillion condemnations or resolutions, just because the victims were Jews, funny how that works, huh....

Sorry, that tiny strip of land in Levant is Israel's/Jewish. Any way you spin it. And that's before considering Pali terror & wars & incitement with which they "thanked" the Jews who employed them and provided other assistence/aid.

Again, only more slowly this time: after their 1,400 years worth of conquest, mass-murder, mass-rape & destruction of local ethnicities, religions, cultures.... Muslims already control 99% of Middle East and 99.9 % of its natural resources. They can go pound sand as far as Israel is concerned.

So you and Allah cry me a water-fall, fool.
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clappa
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No worries.

It's amazing how many people 2, 3 times my age who speak on this issue with SUCH smug arrogance & phony self-righteousness.... do NOT know even basic facts & realities.

It's also a sad testament to the power of the enormous resources that the Muslim-Marxist Media-Matrix... has brought to bear over the last 60+ years re: this issue.

The phony Palestinians have become a whole mega-industry & convenient excuse for anti-semites of all stripes (Muslim, Commie, neo-Nazi, Ron Paulniks, tin-foil conspiracy dorks dwelling in mommy's basement and so on)

Interacting with these bozos, I feel like a much more awesome version of Alice in Wonderland where everything was upside-down and logic was truly bizarre.
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FAKE ARTICle!!! REAL ARTICLE [link to www.middleeastmonitor.com]
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The Jews are NOT from what is now knows as Israel? You are kidding, right?

I believe the argument was settled more than 60 years ago when the United Nations recognized Israel as a state... and pretty much solidifed when they got nukes.

Good luck trying to undo what has been done, as it will be costly.

At some point, 'you' have to get over it, and move on. My grandparents did that 100 years ago, when they, Muslims, left what is now part of Lebanon and moved to the USA. 100 years ago because that is when the 'zionist' movement was building in that area, and they saw what was coming.

They settled in North Dakota and raised 10 kids... they moved on, literally and figuratively.

If they can do it, you can too...
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Granted, Jew-haters are very retarded, hateful people, but Israeli-haters make them look like child's play, LOL. They tried SO hard to try to de-ligitimize Israel and, consequently, justify their many attempted massacres of Israel.... and in the process, the haters only look MORE pathetic, sick & borderline evil.

Guess what? None of it matters because

1) DNA studies have linked many "European" Jews with their ancesors (who, again, were FORCED out by Romans, so their claims still stand and pre-date those of Muslims). And that's some feat considering how many pogroms, massacres, persecutions & forced conversions that 2,000 year Exile threw at the Jews----> culminating in the Holocaust, its some 40 THOUSAND concentration camps, ghettos and extrermination facilities...... A lesser religion-nation-culture would have gone EXTINCT long time ago, much like Philistines & Canaan had among countless others. But now the Jews, they literally rose out of the ashes like a phoenix.

2) Even if "Khazars" weren't really related to the original Israelites... it does NOT matter, because Ashkenazi Jews consider themselves as Jews AND Israel religious authorities consider them to be Jews. Guess what that means? They are JEWS, duh! Because, you see, Israel is an independent, sovereign nation-state, and as such it is NOT up to various Jew-haters to decide who is a "legitimate" Jew and who isn't. Double duh!

3) Land has NO racial/ethnic identity. A blond-and-blue-eyed Jewish baby born in Israel not just has the same right as as a "brown" Palestinian kept purposefully in refugee camps by his Arab brothers ---> in fact, that baby has MORE rights because THE BABY WAS BORN INTO ISRAEL AND IS ISRAELI CITIZEN. Period. End of story. Get over it.

4) Jews paid 5 times the land value to absentee Ottoman landlords 100 years ago; and turned the malaria-stricken, swampy, desert shithole into a veritable oasis, Start-Up nation, despite all wars, pogroms & terrorism & boycotts waged agains it for decades.... While all Arab squatting bedouin did in those days was go from water-well to water-well and kill each other's rival tribes ----> and originally they are from Arab peninsula, Egypt, etc, i.e. not from the land, so I don't want to hear snide bullshit about how only Jews came from Europe, LOL.

5) History, bible, archeology.... League of Nations, UN founding charter Article 80... even the UNSC Resolution 242 that serves as the framework for the Olso Accords that Palestinians have repeatedly violated, most recently at the UNGA in November... they ALL show clear superiority if not an outright EXCLUSIVITY of the Jewish claims to the land. No billions of dollars of Muslim oil propaganda will change that.
 Quoting: ASV 35656725


So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? Yugoslavia got split up when they were against it, other countries have been split up when they were against it, so why not Israel, hmmmmmmm?
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If you knew anything about anything.. you wouldn't even be asking such a spectacularly DUMB, non-sequiturish, uber-loaded sorry excuse for a question.

Incidentally, Palestinians already HAVE a country. It's called Jordan. It's more than twice as big as Israel. It has more fertile land than Israel. In fact, Jordan sits atop land that League of Nations originally designated for Israel ----> and Jordan still couldn't help themselves but attack and try to throw neighboring Jews into the sea in 1948..... In fact, come to think of it, Israel is being so nice NOT asking for modern Jordan or Syria lands back -- again, as per original partition plans by the victors of World War I, the british, french who were tasked by League of Nations to administer the Levant (and how susequently got bribed by Arab oil to break their commitment to the Jews)

In fact, Jordan is some 70% ethnically Palestinian. Though strangely enough, when Jordan illegally occupied East Jerusalem in 1949-1967 and horrifically ethnically cleansed the Jews, synagogues, ancient cemetaries therein even.... somehow the "world community" didn't issue gazzillion condemnations or resolutions, just because the victims were Jews, funny how that works, huh....

Sorry, that tiny strip of land in Levant is Israel's/Jewish. Any way you spin it. And that's before considering Pali terror & wars & incitement with which they "thanked" the Jews who employed them and provided other assistence/aid.

Again, only more slowly this time: after their 1,400 years worth of conquest, mass-murder, mass-rape & destruction of local ethnicities, religions, cultures.... Muslims already control 99% of Middle East and 99.9 % of its natural resources. They can go pound sand as far as Israel is concerned.

So you and Allah cry me a water-fall, fool.
 Quoting: ASV 35656725


I'm not a muslim iamwith the palestinians started getting kicked out after the illegitimate rothschildian balfour declaration and everything related to that. Before that the area of the country of Israel was called PALESTINE. It's past time now that Israel should be treated as equals just like everybody else does.
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So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? ....................rant
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idf7 So what ya gonna do when it dosn't happen, throw a hissy fit. Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
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Opening 3/22/13. . .

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WOW! Unbelievable!

That movie confirms what DHS Insider recently warned about:

An upcoming FF against the WH for more anti-gun, anti-anyone who disagrees with TOTUS propaganda effect. Poor TOTUS will gain great sympathy over this one. And a long-term visit from Marshall Law, who'll stick around like an annoying in-law.

And again and again, it's right in our faces, lol. What a joke the sheeple must be to TPTB.

Get ready to kiss life as you once knew it goodbye. The fat lady is trying to get into costume now.

Got a retreat in the stix?

Got a retreat offshore?

tick-tock.
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IF this is true and he really pushes for that............


I can almost sense a Kennedyesk moment coming in the not too far future,


unless he promises an Iranian War in exchange. But I'm not sure the Israelis would even go for that, since Mossad would figure they could get both.

Obummer's popularity is sinking by leaps and bounds everyday in the USA.
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Opening 3/22/13. . .

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 Quoting: G3

WOW! Unbelievable!

That movie confirms what DHS Insider recently warned about:

An upcoming FF against the WH for more anti-gun, anti-anyone who disagrees with TOTUS propaganda effect. Poor TOTUS will gain great sympathy over this one. And a long-term visit from Marshall Law, who'll stick around like an annoying in-law.

And again and again, it's right in our faces, lol. What a joke the sheeple must be to TPTB.

Get ready to kiss life as you once knew it goodbye. The fat lady is trying to get into costume now.

Got a retreat in the stix?

Got a retreat offshore?

tick-tock.
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Yes I do have a retreat in the stix, but Mongolia sounds better...
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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Obama is very brave to take this stand.

The UN has declared Palestinian statehood and it is time for Israel to accept this, leave the Palestinian people in peace and stop building settlements on land that is not theirs and sending the IDF into areas where they have no right to be.

PEACE not endless WAR!
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OH NO !!! Every time this country tries to get Israel to give up some of its territory, we are hit with some horrible event - it never fails. It's like "their" god is guarding that land and refuses to allow it to be given up.

I hate to see what's coming our way this time.

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U IDIOTS OBAMA HAS NOT PROPOSED SUCH A THING
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Opening 3/22/13. . .

[link to www.youtube.com]


 Quoting: G3

WOW! Unbelievable!

That movie confirms what DHS Insider recently warned about:

An upcoming FF against the WH for more anti-gun, anti-anyone who disagrees with TOTUS propaganda effect. Poor TOTUS will gain great sympathy over this one. And a long-term visit from Marshall Law, who'll stick around like an annoying in-law.

And again and again, it's right in our faces, lol. What a joke the sheeple must be to TPTB.

Get ready to kiss life as you once knew it goodbye. The fat lady is trying to get into costume now.

Got a retreat in the stix?

Got a retreat offshore?

tick-tock.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15488676


Yes I do have a retreat in the stix, but Mongolia sounds better...
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It's very easy to get lost here.
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So then, why don't they allow Palestine their own country, their own piece of land? ....................rant
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:idf7: So what ya gonna do when it dosn't happen, throw a hissy fit. Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
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This is the major problem here, man-made RELIGION. You and others are way too obsessed with what's written on paper in a book, by men. They need to take man-written RELIGION out of everything.
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I am so fucking tired of this endless shit about who has the right to Eretz Israel and not.

Can't just both sides realise that TPTB (Satans army or not) does its utmost to fulfill the biblical prophecies as we speak? Why they do it? I don't know.

But all you jews and christian Israel-lovers must realise that the government of Israel is NOT on the jew's side. They are not on the muslim's side either.

Israel of today is kidnapped the same way as the Vatican and many western nations by the same force - TPTB.

I just want to scream - WE ARE ALL IN THIS SHIT TOGETHER!! Muslims, christians, jews, hindus, buddists, atheists - TOGETHER!

They have been playing us out on eachother for ages, and you fucking morons continue to do just that!

TPTB, probably Satan's army, want you either dead or enslaved. No matter what fucking religion or race you belong to!

WAKE UP! UNITE! FIGHT BACK!
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Obama has no control over USA Army.

They will shoot him if he keeps nagging them.
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that's probably ....the script.....
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OH NO !!! Every time this country tries to get Israel to give up some of its territory, we are hit with some horrible event - it never fails. It's like "their" god is guarding that land and refuses to allow it to be given up.

I hate to see what's coming our way this time.

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You are correct. God protects Israel, much to the denials of Jewish and God haters.

The bible says that anyone who blesses Israel will get blessed, and anyone who curses Israel will get cursed. It also says that anyone who tries to divide Jerusalem will be cursed as well.

That land really belongs to God, not the Jewish people. They have a lease of sorts on it from God. God likes that land; it's important to him. And now that we're in the End Times, God will not allow it as a whole to fall into non-Jewish hands. Many will try, and they will all fail miserably.

As it is written.
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OH NO !!! Every time this country tries to get Israel to give up some of its territory, we are hit with some horrible event - it never fails. It's like "their" god is guarding that land and refuses to allow it to be given up.

I hate to see what's coming our way this time.

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 Quoting: Yes I Did !!!!

You are correct. God protects Israel, much to the denials of Jewish and God haters.

The bible says that anyone who blesses Israel will get blessed, and anyone who curses Israel will get cursed. It also says that anyone who tries to divide Jerusalem will be cursed as well.

That land really belongs to God, not the Jewish people. They have a lease of sorts on it from God. God likes that land; it's important to him. And now that we're in the End Times, God will not allow it as a whole to fall into non-Jewish hands. Many will try, and they will all fail miserably.

As it is written.
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clappa

I couldn't agree more.
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obama is the sunni caliph.
we even showed it by wearing the blue turban.
noone cares....
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nostrodamus!
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"Christan" obama is gonna divide Israel, giving Judea and Samaria to a new palestinian state. Blasphemy , seems like he is trying very hard to become the AC..
No worries , everything is gonna be alright, with Israels borders at Cairo and the Euphrates..
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