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There never was a "Palestine", and there isn't one today. Squatters have no territorial rights.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


I wouldn't quite use the term "squatter" after nearly 100 generations, but fact is, there has *never* been a State of Palestine. Over the last 2200 years, Palestine has been the name of a province, a territory, and a protectorate, but never a State *or* a people.

As a posession of the various empires it has belonged to, Palestine has never had consistent borders, nor a cohesive cultural identity...the British Protectorate of Palestine came into existence at the end of WW-I, and was quickly divided up into "countries" and "kingdoms" over a ~30 year period, durring which time the states of Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Quatar, Oman, Yemen and lastly Israel were carved from the carcass of the Ottoman Empire by the British, French, and other allied nations. See: [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Further, most of the people living in that province of the Ottoman Empire in 1915 were primarilly nomadic tribes "of Bedouin descent", and if you asked them their "Nationality", their answer would most likely have been "Muslim", otherwise they would have responded with "Bedouin", "Ottoman", or the name of their specific tribe - but certainly not "Palestinian".

"Palestinian" is a purely foreign term; an oxymoron at best, or a political travesty at worst. The closest you can get to "Palestinian" in terms of lineage or cultural background is "Bedouin" - a loose grouping of nomadic tribes which ranged over the entire eastern end of the Mediteranean basin, from Egypt to Turkey. They are *not* Arabs, any more than they are Greeks, Jews, or Egyptians. The bedouin lived and traded on the edges of other civilizations across the region, but never assimilated specifically into any other nation or people, nor came together to form a state of their own. While most closely associated with the Arab people, the Bedouin are indeed a people unique unto themselves - but being a people is different than being a State.

The modern phrase "Palestinian people" in the mid-east is most synonymous with "disenfranchised people" rather than referring to a specific ethinic or regional group... it's a Soviet Political construct far more than it is a true ethnic freedom movement. But, of course, that is not the way the MSM aparachniks sell it in Europe and North America - the MSM wants you to see "the Palestinians" the same way you imagine Black America before the Civil Rights Movement - the victims of prejudice and systematic disenfranchisement.

Yet Jordan is actually a far worse place for "Palestinians" than Israel, in terms of social and economic opportunity and freedom - the Jordanians forcefully segregate the "Palestinians" into refugee camps where they are treated like animals; the conditions are appalling - squalid conditions, no medical care, no means of income, and no way out except to flee the country (with nothing but the clothes on your back).

Who pays for those Palestinian prision camps in Jordan? US and British "foreign aid" pays for them.

HISTORY, folks...learn your history - and don't gorge yourselves on the junk food which the MSM aparachniks have been churning out for the last 40 years.
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Nothing is going to happen. The shy is not falling, there will be no rapture because you are misinterpreting the bible to be a prophecy about the end times. Which it is not. ts
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You're going to be surprised. See ya...wouldn't wannbe be ya
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Here is to hoping that the true rightful owners of that land get it back from the Zionists and ignorant hillbilly Americans and Europeans playing human shield in the kibbutz.

Its the worlds shame that we have let fanatical psychopaths run us all off the cliff chasing the whims of ideological shit heads and their racism, prejudice and contempt for anyone who is not exactly like them.

We must all see the return of the land stolen from those who have the only claim to it. Those who were living there before the occupation conducted by the fanatical zealots in the Knesset.
 Quoting: SnakesAndLadders


Hate to break the news to ya buddy, but the jews ARE the rightful owners of the land. Just gotta read the Bible AND the Torah to know that ALL LAND was given to Abraham.

And if Obaaaamaaaa forces the Isrelies to split up jerusalem, Watch God SLPIT the U.S. in two but letting the New Madrid Fault go off!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34750088




So right... Each time the US leaders mess with dividing up Israel, a disaster happens here. obama doesn't care if the US is split, but God judges a land based on its king the people have chosen. The innocent suffer with the guilty.
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There never was a "Palestine", and there isn't one today. Squatters have no territorial rights.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


I wouldn't quite use the term "squatter" after nearly 100 generations, but fact is, there has *never* been a State of Palestine. Over the last 2200 years, Palestine has been the name of a province, a territory, and a protectorate, but never a State *or* a people.

As a posession of the various empires it has belonged to, Palestine has never had consistent borders, nor a cohesive cultural identity...the British Protectorate of Palestine came into existence at the end of WW-I, and was quickly divided up into "countries" and "kingdoms" over a ~30 year period, durring which time the states of Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Quatar, Oman, Yemen and lastly Israel were carved from the carcass of the Ottoman Empire by the British, French, and other allied nations. See: [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Further, most of the people living in that province of the Ottoman Empire in 1915 were primarilly nomadic tribes "of Bedouin descent", and if you asked them their "Nationality", their answer would most likely have been "Muslim", otherwise they would have responded with "Bedouin", "Ottoman", or the name of their specific tribe - but certainly not "Palestinian".

"Palestinian" is a purely foreign term; an oxymoron at best, or a political travesty at worst. The closest you can get to "Palestinian" in terms of lineage or cultural background is "Bedouin" - a loose grouping of nomadic tribes which ranged over the entire eastern end of the Mediteranean basin, from Egypt to Turkey. They are *not* Arabs, any more than they are Greeks, Jews, or Egyptians. The bedouin lived and traded on the edges of other civilizations across the region, but never assimilated specifically into any other nation or people, nor came together to form a state of their own. While most closely associated with the Arab people, the Bedouin are indeed a people unique unto themselves - but being a people is different than being a State.

The modern phrase "Palestinian people" in the mid-east is most synonymous with "disenfranchised people" rather than referring to a specific ethinic or regional group... it's a Soviet Political construct far more than it is a true ethnic freedom movement. But, of course, that is not the way the MSM aparachniks sell it in Europe and North America - the MSM wants you to see "the Palestinians" the same way you imagine Black America before the Civil Rights Movement - the victims of prejudice and systematic disenfranchisement.

Yet Jordan is actually a far worse place for "Palestinians" than Israel, in terms of social and economic opportunity and freedom - the Jordanians forcefully segregate the "Palestinians" into refugee camps where they are treated like animals; the conditions are appalling - squalid conditions, no medical care, no means of income, and no way out except to flee the country (with nothing but the clothes on your back).

Who pays for those Palestinian prision camps in Jordan? US and British "foreign aid" pays for them.

HISTORY, folks...learn your history - and don't gorge yourselves on the junk food which the MSM aparachniks have been churning out for the last 40 years.
 Quoting: LT Prepper


I know your intentions are admirable, but you're making a common mistake. There is NO "200 generations" of Palestininans. Overwhelming majority of them spring from Arab Peninsula, Egypt, etc and mostly arrived in last 150 years when new wave of Zionist pioneers started draining swamps & making desert bloom, thus creating new emloyment opportunities for Arabs.

(employment opportunities for while the Muslims thanked the Jews by... massacres & pogroms in 1920's and 1930's --- massacres inspired by Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini who few years later earned notoriety as a Holocaust Artchitect and Adolf Hitler's best buddy. Husseini even lived in Berlin and becamea war-criminal on the run after Allies won WW-2... but I digiress :)

Wheras, despite the Nazis of Antiquity -- i.e. The Romans -- ethnically cleansing the Jews out of the Holy Land, Jews retained CONTINUTOUS presence & claims to "Palestine". In fact, Jerusalem was over 80% Jewish before Jordan Army, mostly Palestinian ethnicity btw, ethnically cleansed them during their illegal occupation of E.Jerusalem in 1949-1967. Of course, you didn't have 100's of UN condemation or calls for BDS about THAT.... cuz it was only the Jews.


And yes, calling the few indigenous Palis "squatters" IS correct. Because that's what they were when "Palestine" was just a forgotten pimple on Ottman Sultan's ass. They were bedouin, nomads killing each other's tribes... Completely IN-distinquishable from other Arabs.

Certainly NOT any kind of monolithic culture, nation-state, with it's distinct rights to the land that supercede or even match those of Jews. Not even close.

In fact, it was KGB and Yuri Andropov who even CREATED Arafat & Project: Palestine... as a geo-political tool against the West and the US. In 1960. Nineteen-freakin-sixties! Think about that for a second -- and then look up various PLO, PFLP and Hamas, Islamic Jihad statements about how there really ISN'T a distinct Palestinian people. The "Palestinians" are only used as jumping point to destroy the Jewish state -- whether through war, terror, outright -- or in states, ala Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah in last few years.

LOL, before 1970 when you said "Palestinian" you were likely referring to a -- drum roll please ---> a JEW. The local Arabs didn't like that word. Palestine Post, likewise, was a Jewish publication.

Etc, etc, etc.

It's especially hilarious watching another poster in this thread invoke "Geneva Convention" as some kind of a get-out-of-jail-card for Palestinian war, terror & intransigence..... without even understanding the first thing about Geneva Conventions, nor about its relevance or lack thereof pertaining to Israel's presence in WB.

1) Genneva Convention does NOT apply here because there is NO other sovereign or nation-state that Israel is occupying. Not since Jordan formally withdrew it's claims to West Bank as part of Peace Treaty with Israel in 1994. In fact, Israel all but begged both Jordan and Egypt to annex WB and Gaza, respectively for years at that point.. and both Mubarak and King Hussein said "thank, but no thanks!".

2) Hence why it's contested territories at best, pending MUTUALLY-AGREED UPON final resolution. Which Palestinians famously avoided for years now, preferring terror, terror and more terror against Israeli civilians instead --- each instance being nothing short of WAR-CRIME incidentally. Not that UN or international "community" seem to give a fuck about 1000's instances of war crime -- actual war crime, not some Jew building a crib for his baby over the Green Line bullshit "war crime".... cuz, again, it's only Jews dying, no biggie, huh?

3) League of Nations, UN Founding Charter Article 80, UNSC Res 242... and the resultant Oslo Accords all supercede Geneva Convention. And


Proof in the pudding, bitch: for all the billions both Soviet Union evil empire and Gulf Muslims spend on anti-Israeli propaganda & bribes of UN officials over the ensuing decades...... NOTHING actionable was ever successfully pursued re: Geneva Convention. Not one persecution. Because it would have inevitably failed, LOL. Everything else is just amateur wannbe experts in Geneva Conventions whining, impotently.

Meanwhile, Israel is about to have visa-free relationship with both Russia, US and European Union. So much for "transfer of civilian population into occupied territory", huh.
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There is NO "200 generations" of Palestininans. Overwhelming majority of them spring from Arab Peninsula, Egypt, etc and mostly arrived in last 150 years when new wave of Zionist pioneers started draining swamps & making desert bloom, thus creating new emloyment opportunities for Arabs.
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And yes, calling the few indigenous Palis "squatters" IS correct. Because that's what they were when "Palestine" was just a forgotten pimple on Ottman Sultan's ass. They were bedouin, nomads killing each other's tribes... Completely IN-distinquishable from other Arabs.
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LOL, before 1970 when you said "Palestinian" you were likely referring to a -- drum roll please ---> a JEW. The local Arabs didn't like that word. Palestine Post, likewise, was a Jewish publication.

 Quoting: ASV 23328629


I never said there were "200 generations of Palestinians" - I suggested that the Jews had been denied a state for "nearly 100 generations" durring which time the primary inhabitants of 'Palestine' had been nomadic Bedouin tribes - the ""squatters" to which you refer.

Actually, the Prision-city of Acre and the port of Haifa were the "pimple on the ass" of the Sultanate...the rest of the palestinian teritory wasn't even that much of an attention gettter to the Ottomans. Acre was where the Sultan sent his most despised political prisioners to die quietly, and nearly all of the traffic through Haifa for over 200 years was to maintain the Acre garrison and move prisioners to and from the prision.
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What little other traffic there was through Haifa at the turn of the 20th century was almost exclusively Jews immigrating under the limited right granted by the Ottoman Sultan in the 'Edict of Tolleration' issued in 1844. While the Edict of Tolleration was not specific to the Jews, they were the primary beneficiaries. (Others, such as small groups of messianic Christians, also "returned" to the Holy Land in the1840s-1880s, as part of a growing wave of 'end-times' belief that surged within western Christianity in the 1840s through 1860s, but this is another topic entirely).
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Agreed - before 1950, if you said "Palestinian" you probably were referring to the Jews, as they were the only ones voicing a specific claim to the land of "Palestine" at that time.
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Genneva Convention does NOT apply here because there is NO other sovereign or nation-state that Israel is occupying. Not since Jordan formally withdrew it's claims to West Bank as part of Peace Treaty with Israel in 1994. In fact, Israel all but begged both Jordan and Egypt to annex WB and Gaza, respectively for years at that point.. and both Mubarak and King Hussein said "thank, but no thanks!".
 Quoting: ASV 23328629


^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
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Genneva Convention does NOT apply here because there is NO other sovereign or nation-state that Israel is occupying. Not since Jordan formally withdrew it's claims to West Bank as part of Peace Treaty with Israel in 1994. In fact, Israel all but begged both Jordan and Egypt to annex WB and Gaza, respectively for years at that point.. and both Mubarak and King Hussein said "thank, but no thanks!".
 Quoting: ASV 23328629


^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


No worries, I gotcha.

Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
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No worries.

It's amazing how many people 2, 3 times my age who speak on this issue with SUCH smug arrogance & phony self-righteousness.... do NOT know even basic facts & realities.

It's also a sad testament to the power of the enormous resources that the Muslim-Marxist Media-Matrix... has brought to bear over the last 60+ years re: this issue.

The phony Palestinians have become a whole mega-industry & convenient excuse for anti-semites of all stripes (Muslim, Commie, neo-Nazi, Ron Paulniks, tin-foil conspiracy dorks dwelling in mommy's basement and so on)

Interacting with these bozos, I feel like a much more awesome version of Alice in Wonderland where everything was upside-down and logic was truly bizarre.
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This is so fucking true.

Again:

clappa
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No worries.

It's amazing how many people 2, 3 times my age who speak on this issue with SUCH smug arrogance & phony self-righteousness.... do NOT know even basic facts & realities.

It's also a sad testament to the power of the enormous resources that the Muslim-Marxist Media-Matrix... has brought to bear over the last 60+ years re: this issue.

The phony Palestinians have become a whole mega-industry & convenient excuse for anti-semites of all stripes (Muslim, Commie, neo-Nazi, Ron Paulniks, tin-foil conspiracy dorks dwelling in mommy's basement and so on)

Interacting with these bozos, I feel like a much more awesome version of Alice in Wonderland where everything was upside-down and logic was truly bizarre.
 Quoting: ASV 35656725


This is so fucking true.

Again:

clappa
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That's how we do, playa.
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Here is to hoping that the true rightful owners of that land get it back from the Zionists and ignorant hillbilly Americans and Europeans playing human shield in the kibbutz.

Its the worlds shame that we have let fanatical psychopaths run us all off the cliff chasing the whims of ideological shit heads and their racism, prejudice and contempt for anyone who is not exactly like them.

We must all see the return of the land stolen from those who have the only claim to it. Those who were living there before the occupation conducted by the fanatical zealots in the Knesset.
 Quoting: SnakesAndLadders


Hate to break the news to ya buddy, but the jews ARE the rightful owners of the land. Just gotta read the Bible AND the Torah to know that ALL LAND was given to Abraham.

And if Obaaaamaaaa forces the Isrelies to split up jerusalem, Watch God SLPIT the U.S. in two but letting the New Madrid Fault go off!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34750088




So right... Each time the US leaders mess with dividing up Israel, a disaster happens here. obama doesn't care if the US is split, but God judges a land based on its king the people have chosen. The innocent suffer with the guilty.
 Quoting: John Holmes 25015863


So wrong...


USS Liberty, Lavon Affair, King David Hotel, Rachel Corrie, 5 dancing Mossad agents. Jonayhan Pollard...


What US leader has ever divided up Israel?? The worst Obama said was that they should put a rest to some of the illegal settlements. The Zionists and Christian Zionists screamed from the rooftops that he was the worst enemy of US Presidents in regards to Israel. Well, I guess they are right. Even though all he said was ILLEGAL settlements should pause, this was the most "anti-Israeli" stand by a US politician.

The Zionists are attempting to enslave us. They are using Islamaphobia to make you choose them.

They are the AC. Rev 2:9

most are from modern Russian, Ukrainiane, and Georgia, what was called Gog and Magog. Is it not interesting that they now trample the holy land like it was said they would? They have you all fooled into thinking they are the Israelites and are having us fight and die for Satan.
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Genneva Convention does NOT apply here because there is NO other sovereign or nation-state that Israel is occupying. Not since Jordan formally withdrew it's claims to West Bank as part of Peace Treaty with Israel in 1994. In fact, Israel all but begged both Jordan and Egypt to annex WB and Gaza, respectively for years at that point.. and both Mubarak and King Hussein said "thank, but no thanks!".
 Quoting: ASV 23328629


^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


No worries, I gotcha.

Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
 Quoting: ASV 9604308


...and of there is one thing that everyone knows, it is that the Muslims control the media. You even called them Marxist. You truly have the identities totally confused. I pray you see the truth soon as there is no doubt that the children of Satan have usurped the land and are calling themselves something they are not to fool you just as Christ said.

Rev 2:9
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Genneva Convention does NOT apply here because there is NO other sovereign or nation-state that Israel is occupying. Not since Jordan formally withdrew it's claims to West Bank as part of Peace Treaty with Israel in 1994. In fact, Israel all but begged both Jordan and Egypt to annex WB and Gaza, respectively for years at that point.. and both Mubarak and King Hussein said "thank, but no thanks!".
 Quoting: ASV 23328629


^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


No worries, I gotcha.

Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
 Quoting: ASV 9604308


...and of there is one thing that everyone knows, it is that the Muslims control the media. You even called them Marxist. You truly have the identities totally confused. I pray you see the truth soon as there is no doubt that the children of Satan have usurped the land and are calling themselves something they are not to fool you just as Christ said.

Rev 2:9
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Dear Anonymous Coward,

You're so STUPID, it's a small wonder you're can even figure out how to breathe or feed yourself on daily basis.

The "Muslim-Marxist" reference to which you're probably alluding, does NOT mean they are one and the same thing, but rather that those 2 seemingly disparate ideologies have long ALLIED forces on the common TOTALITARIAN basis & against a perceived common enemy: Jews, Judo-Christian WASPS & other kick-ass awesome, freedom-loving indivualists in the West.

Duh. Der. Duh.
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"... freedom-loving individualists..."
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^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


No worries, I gotcha.

Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
 Quoting: ASV 9604308


...and of there is one thing that everyone knows, it is that the Muslims control the media. You even called them Marxist. You truly have the identities totally confused. I pray you see the truth soon as there is no doubt that the children of Satan have usurped the land and are calling themselves something they are not to fool you just as Christ said.

Rev 2:9
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Dear Anonymous Coward,

You're so STUPID, it's a small wonder you're can even figure out how to breathe or feed yourself on daily basis.

The "Muslim-Marxist" reference to which you're probably alluding, does NOT mean they are one and the same thing, but rather that those 2 seemingly disparate ideologies have long ALLIED forces on the common TOTALITARIAN basis & against a perceived common enemy: Jews, Judo-Christian WASPS & other kick-ass awesome, freedom-loving indivualists in the West.

Duh. Der. Duh.
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Yes, I am your intellectual inferior. Can you please elucidate on some of the following things for me?

"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a 'Jew' or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac

"Edom is in Modern Jewry." 1905 edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia

I am not as intelligent as you are. Is Edom not Esau, the brother of Jacob, who became Israel? If that is the case, are the modern day Israelis not admitting that they are NOT Israel in just these two passages alone? I am very stupid. Can you tell me what Revelation 2:9 states? Thank you ahead of time for taking the time to rectify my stupidity.
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^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
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No worries, I gotcha.

Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
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...and of there is one thing that everyone knows, it is that the Muslims control the media. You even called them Marxist. You truly have the identities totally confused. I pray you see the truth soon as there is no doubt that the children of Satan have usurped the land and are calling themselves something they are not to fool you just as Christ said.

Rev 2:9
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Dear Anonymous Coward,

You're so STUPID, it's a small wonder you're can even figure out how to breathe or feed yourself on daily basis.

The "Muslim-Marxist" reference to which you're probably alluding, does NOT mean they are one and the same thing, but rather that those 2 seemingly disparate ideologies have long ALLIED forces on the common TOTALITARIAN basis & against a perceived common enemy: Jews, Judo-Christian WASPS & other kick-ass awesome, freedom-loving indivualists in the West.

Duh. Der. Duh.
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Can you please educate me on the Talmud? I have read passages that say "even the best of the 'gentiles' should be killed." I have also read that Jesus is boiling in hell in his own excrement in Gitten 57a.
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Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928
"The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."
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^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...
 Quoting: LT Prepper


No worries, I gotcha.

Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
 Quoting: ASV 9604308


...and of there is one thing that everyone knows, it is that the Muslims control the media. You even called them Marxist. You truly have the identities totally confused. I pray you see the truth soon as there is no doubt that the children of Satan have usurped the land and are calling themselves something they are not to fool you just as Christ said.

Rev 2:9
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Dear Anonymous Coward,

You're so STUPID, it's a small wonder you're can even figure out how to breathe or feed yourself on daily basis.

The "Muslim-Marxist" reference to which you're probably alluding, does NOT mean they are one and the same thing, but rather that those 2 seemingly disparate ideologies have long ALLIED forces on the common TOTALITARIAN basis & against a perceived common enemy: Jews, Judo-Christian WASPS & other kick-ass awesome, freedom-loving indivualists in the West.

Duh. Der. Duh.
 Quoting: ASV 7185615




Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928
"The J*wish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the J*ws will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.

In this New World Order the children of Israel will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the J*wish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the J*ws will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."


How could one group own ALL property? It is impossible. Well, it would be unless a group formed a banking system in which debt is the only guarantee. If citizens are forced to borrow fiat currency by a private corporation that controls the printing of money, and therefore inflation and deflation, the property of the world can be given over to the bankers.


There is one to determine if there is truth in this. We must look into the entities behind the Fed.


Warburg Bank of Hamburg
Rothschild Bank of Berlin
Lehman Brothers of New York
Lazard Brothers of Paris
Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy
Goldman, Sachs of New York
Warburg Bank of Amsterdam

There is no way in the world all of these can be one group. If all these groups are all Muslims, I then concede that it is a Muslims conspiracy. There is no way in the world they cannot all be J*ws. Muslims make up over one billion people. Even with that many it would be impossible for just them to control finances. If it were to turn out these entities are J*ws....well that is just beyond coincidence, infinitely beyond the possibilities of its being all Muslim as they make up only 15 million of the population. If that were the case, and we have Baruch Levy writing a letter to Karl Marx, both of whom were J*ws....well...damn that would almost be case closed on who is behind all of this, would it not??
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asked and answered.case closed. der all joos fritz!
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I find you all are very impressive with your knowledge. But the bottom line is no person or country have the right to keep somone down. We had a revolution in this country because of the very same thing. F Israel F radical muslims.
We should stop giving countrys foreign aid . They then would have no meens to inflict harm on each other. Or us !
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Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
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promisedlandrachael Indeed people have the choice of believing Marxist liars, the Talmud and a host of others who hate the Lord. Or they can turn to the truth as it is taught in the Torah/OT and the gospels. Jesus Christ is the Creator and King of this world, those who go against Him do so at peril of their own souls.

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
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Fact of the matte is: Jews in general and 'Israel' in particular is a Rorschach Test for the various Muzzie, Commie, neo-Nazi crazies --- and all of them see wildly different things, but they are equally crazy/bizarre.

'Israel' is also a Litmus test for intelligence, integrity & insight. People who are PRO-Israel are good people who know what's up; people who are ANTI-Israel are brainwashed losers.

The end.
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:promisedland::rachael: Indeed people have the choice of believing Marxist liars, the Talmud and a host of others who hate the Lord. Or they can turn to the truth as it is taught in the Torah/OT and the gospels. Jesus Christ is the Creator and King of this world, those who go against Him do so at peril of their own souls.

Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
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With all respect, lady.... neither you nor the StormFront neo-Nazis whose FABRICATED Talmud translations you've evidently been brain-washed by.... know a first thing about something as complex & divinely inspired as 'Talmud'.

Talmud doesn't supercede the authority of Torah/Bible... but suffice to say, it great supplements it as a compendium of analyses, interpretations, guidelines, etc. It's both the reason for & a reflection of why Jewish mind was able to break all of the odds & hardships over the millenia.

Again, keep in mind that about 90% of the trash spread by Muslims & neo-Nazies about it is clearly fabricated... and the other 10% is so ridicously twisted out of context or basic linguistics, that it might as well be made-upd too, LOL.

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