Obama is now demanding Israeli withdrawl from the West Bank! This is getting crazy!

So right... Each time the US leaders mess with dividing up Israel, a disaster happens here. obama doesn't care if the US is split, but God judges a land based on its king the people have chosen. The innocent suffer with the guilty.

I know your intentions are admirable, but you're making a common mistake. There is NO "200 generations" of Palestininans. Overwhelming majority of them spring from Arab Peninsula, Egypt, etc and mostly arrived in last 150 years when new wave of Zionist pioneers started draining swamps & making desert bloom, thus creating new emloyment opportunities for Arabs.

(employment opportunities for while the Muslims thanked the Jews by... massacres & pogroms in 1920's and 1930's --- massacres inspired by Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini who few years later earned notoriety as a Holocaust Artchitect and Adolf Hitler's best buddy. Husseini even lived in Berlin and becamea war-criminal on the run after Allies won WW-2... but I digiress :)

Wheras, despite the Nazis of Antiquity -- i.e. The Romans -- ethnically cleansing the Jews out of the Holy Land, Jews retained CONTINUTOUS presence & claims to "Palestine". In fact, Jerusalem was over 80% Jewish before Jordan Army, mostly Palestinian ethnicity btw, ethnically cleansed them during their illegal occupation of E.Jerusalem in 1949-1967. Of course, you didn't have 100's of UN condemation or calls for BDS about THAT.... cuz it was only the Jews.


And yes, calling the few indigenous Palis "squatters" IS correct. Because that's what they were when "Palestine" was just a forgotten pimple on Ottman Sultan's ass. They were bedouin, nomads killing each other's tribes... Completely IN-distinquishable from other Arabs.

Certainly NOT any kind of monolithic culture, nation-state, with it's distinct rights to the land that supercede or even match those of Jews. Not even close.

In fact, it was KGB and Yuri Andropov who even CREATED Arafat & Project: Palestine... as a geo-political tool against the West and the US. In 1960. Nineteen-freakin-sixties! Think about that for a second -- and then look up various PLO, PFLP and Hamas, Islamic Jihad statements about how there really ISN'T a distinct Palestinian people. The "Palestinians" are only used as jumping point to destroy the Jewish state -- whether through war, terror, outright -- or in states, ala Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah in last few years.

LOL, before 1970 when you said "Palestinian" you were likely referring to a -- drum roll please ---> a JEW. The local Arabs didn't like that word. Palestine Post, likewise, was a Jewish publication.

Etc, etc, etc.

It's especially hilarious watching another poster in this thread invoke "Geneva Convention" as some kind of a get-out-of-jail-card for Palestinian war, terror & intransigence..... without even understanding the first thing about Geneva Conventions, nor about its relevance or lack thereof pertaining to Israel's presence in WB.

1) Genneva Convention does NOT apply here because there is NO other sovereign or nation-state that Israel is occupying. Not since Jordan formally withdrew it's claims to West Bank as part of Peace Treaty with Israel in 1994. In fact, Israel all but begged both Jordan and Egypt to annex WB and Gaza, respectively for years at that point.. and both Mubarak and King Hussein said "thank, but no thanks!".

2) Hence why it's contested territories at best, pending MUTUALLY-AGREED UPON final resolution. Which Palestinians famously avoided for years now, preferring terror, terror and more terror against Israeli civilians instead --- each instance being nothing short of WAR-CRIME incidentally. Not that UN or international "community" seem to give a fuck about 1000's instances of war crime -- actual war crime, not some Jew building a crib for his baby over the Green Line bullshit "war crime".... cuz, again, it's only Jews dying, no biggie, huh?

3) League of Nations, UN Founding Charter Article 80, UNSC Res 242... and the resultant Oslo Accords all supercede Geneva Convention. And


Proof in the pudding, bitch: for all the billions both Soviet Union evil empire and Gulf Muslims spend on anti-Israeli propaganda & bribes of UN officials over the ensuing decades...... NOTHING actionable was ever successfully pursued re: Geneva Convention. Not one persecution. Because it would have inevitably failed, LOL. Everything else is just amateur wannbe experts in Geneva Conventions whining, impotently.

Meanwhile, Israel is about to have visa-free relationship with both Russia, US and European Union. So much for "transfer of civilian population into occupied territory", huh.

I never said there were "200 generations of Palestinians" - I suggested that the Jews had been denied a state for "nearly 100 generations" durring which time the primary inhabitants of 'Palestine' had been nomadic Bedouin tribes - the ""squatters" to which you refer.

Actually, the Prision-city of Acre and the port of Haifa were the "pimple on the ass" of the Sultanate...the rest of the palestinian teritory wasn't even that much of an attention gettter to the Ottomans. Acre was where the Sultan sent his most despised political prisioners to die quietly, and nearly all of the traffic through Haifa for over 200 years was to maintain the Acre garrison and move prisioners to and from the prision.
~
What little other traffic there was through Haifa at the turn of the 20th century was almost exclusively Jews immigrating under the limited right granted by the Ottoman Sultan in the 'Edict of Tolleration' issued in 1844. While the Edict of Tolleration was not specific to the Jews, they were the primary beneficiaries. (Others, such as small groups of messianic Christians, also "returned" to the Holy Land in the1840s-1880s, as part of a growing wave of 'end-times' belief that surged within western Christianity in the 1840s through 1860s, but this is another topic entirely).
~
Agreed - before 1950, if you said "Palestinian" you probably were referring to the Jews, as they were the only ones voicing a specific claim to the land of "Palestine" at that time.

^^^^^THIS^^^^ is absolutely true. Neither Mubarak nor Hussein wanted to have to take responsibility for the terrorists in Gaza or the West Bank. Syria didn't really want the Golan back, for the same reasons - they wanted the 'Palestinians' there, *within* Israel's borders, acting as terrorists. The goal has never been to establish a "Free and Autonomous Palestine" state...it has *ALWAYS* been about destroying every last shred of Jewish presence in the region. Period.

Yeah, just in case anyone though I was sympathetic to the "Palestinian cause" - forget it. The "Palestinians" are a real and unique people...neither Arab, Egyptian, nor Jew. They are most likely the remnant of Assyria, a nation destroyed more than 2000 years ago, according to both Biblical and historic accounts. The Assyrians were violent, untrustworthy, and destructive to everyone and everything they came into contact with back then - they were the terrorist state of their day - and they are aparently no less so now...

This is so fucking true.

Again:

That's how we do, playa.

So wrong...


USS Liberty, Lavon Affair, King David Hotel, Rachel Corrie, 5 dancing Mossad agents. Jonayhan Pollard...


What US leader has ever divided up Israel?? The worst Obama said was that they should put a rest to some of the illegal settlements. The Zionists and Christian Zionists screamed from the rooftops that he was the worst enemy of US Presidents in regards to Israel. Well, I guess they are right. Even though all he said was ILLEGAL settlements should pause, this was the most "anti-Israeli" stand by a US politician.

The Zionists are attempting to enslave us. They are using Islamaphobia to make you choose them.

They are the AC. Rev 2:9

most are from modern Russian, Ukrainiane, and Georgia, what was called Gog and Magog. Is it not interesting that they now trample the holy land like it was said they would? They have you all fooled into thinking they are the Israelites and are having us fight and die for Satan.

"... freedom-loving individualists..."

asked and answered.case closed. der all joos fritz!

I find you all are very impressive with your knowledge. But the bottom line is no person or country have the right to keep somone down. We had a revolution in this country because of the very same thing. F Israel F radical muslims.
We should stop giving countrys foreign aid . They then would have no meens to inflict harm on each other. Or us !