Breaking now Rand Paul filibustering

I think this admin is starting to look a lot like the old admin, in many ways.

I have never heard of it...I will have to check it out.

In which quadrant of Ohio do you live, AC?

Fucking MSM. I just read a Dutch article about Brennan being the new head of the CIA.

Not a single word about the filibustering of Rand.

Pisses me of so much.

I am currently in FEMA region V, as are you.

Oh, how coy of you.

Ohio is gonna be on the front lines.

People around my parts are drooling for a fight.

I do get down to Cinci about twice a year though.

We should have a beer sometime.

As much as the media wants us to believe, there still are a lot of Patriots in Ohio. Despite it going to Obama (through fraud of course...)

No doubt.

That legislation that started up in the middle of February gave new blood to people.

I'm pretty stoked about that.

That basically says that if we ever do get into a fight with the fed over guns, I have the power of the state behind me to repel the gun grabbers.

As if we need them.

Just that bill being introduced will show people just how serious this all is.

I'm sure it will pass easily.

Better of been through fraud!!

Yeah, that is exciting, and it's nice to be proud of Ohio again. But, I really don't think the Federal government will recognize it in any capacity if it comes down to it.

I go back and forth between Kasich, too. He has done a a lot of good, but there is still something about him that screams establishment.

Oh, it was....Especially Cleveland.

I just filabustered in my pants again.

your post is 2:00+ pm sorry got side tracked by personal life...so I'm late in replying...

question to Holder:

"Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American 'not engaged' in combat on American soil?" Holder: NO

My further question would be - if they show up at my door to 'take' my guns does that make me an 'engaged' combatant on American soil?

Then we're ready for them.

many hrs later - thank you! I truely hope what Rand did helps...but, I still have a gut feeling and am not setteled with Eric-F the US-Holders reply. Its still a bit unsetteling to me...
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"Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil? Holders answer - NO

What if the govt. comes knocking on my door and tells me to hand over my guns? and I say NO!!! am I now a person who is 'engaged' in combat against the govt.?
Can they call in an attack drone and kill me and my family and wipe us from the face of the Earth?

My God - thats Priceless!!!

Holder's response is a dig. He said that the 'President' would not have the power to use a drone against a combative...

It's what he didn't say.

He didn't say that a committee appointed by POTUS couldn't command a strike on a combative. (and who defines 'combative' or 'terrorist currently?... A COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY THE EXECUTIVE OFFICE)

[didn't feel like reading the other 70+ pages, so if anyone in here with a brain already pointed this out, sorry! To the rest of you who don't see it... mark my words sheep!!]

I have to wonder how many people who think like this have actually seen the horrors of war.

Remember in the movie "The Patriot" Benjamin Martin was the toughest dude in the whole movie, but he was also one of the most reluctant to go to war.

The reason for this is because he had already been to war, and seen what it does to people. He was always having people compliment him on being a hero, but privately he was very regretful of what he had done.

I am not saying that people shouldn't stand up for what is right, and protect themselves and their families from oppression and tyranny.

What I am saying is that war and violence is not something you should seek out, and also not something you should be "drooling" over.

I deployed to war zones many times, and take it from me there is little more than pain and suffering in them. It may seem cool at first because of all the programming, but unless you have some serious screws loose it's all bad in reality.

Anyone that takes pleasure from killing needs to get their mind right, because the levels of negative energy you are exposed to doing so just aren't healthy.

I hear your concerns, but there are a million "what if" scenarios. No matter what congress does we could say well what if....

Great post!

I don't know if I believe in all that "energy" stuff, but as for the rest, you are spot on IMO

Thanks.

Ya I realize that talking about energy kind of gets into new age stuff which some think is baloney, but I assure you there is some truth in it.

One thing I learned about TPTB is that they mostly just twist things around to suit their needs, they don't really create anything.

So basically what I am saying is that there is some truth in pretty much everything, and often lies as well on the flip side. That's why it's so damn hard to find the truth, because most everything is a little bit of both.

There is a Meat Loaf song called "Heaven can Wait" and a line in it is "Everything's a lie and that's a fact." Well he just may be right that there is at least a little bit of a lie in most everything, but I think he was going a little too far with that statement.

Take the Bible for example, it has been translated and altered over the years so that it's very unlikely it has maintained the same exact intended message. I think it even says something in the Bible about terrible things happening to those that alter it.

So it is enough to make your head spin sometimes, because you sense some truth in something and want to believe it all. But when you do that you will probably be deceived at least to some extent. This is something that I battle with to this day, and I have no doubt that will be true for some time to come.

Not saying I have all the answers, but I do know that keeping an open mind helps a lot because of this. When you consider all possibilities before deciding what to believe, it greatly increases your chances of finding the truth.