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CANCER KILLER – Natural Cancer Cell Killer 10,000 Times Stronger Than Chemo!

 
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Well MY "basic physiology" is my GI doctor being confused about there being NO cancerous or pre-cancerous cells left in the polyp(s) and tumor he went in to remove after the first FIVE tested positive.

I told him about my diet change and he was just like you. "Well, that MIGHT have something to do with it, but I don't think so". "MIGHT?" If it wasn't what I did with my diet, plus adding trace minerals to my filtered water that I drink almost a gallon of every day, then what was it?

I might be "ignorant", but I'm still breathing. And eating and feeling great.

One of my best friends, an ex semi-pro linebacker and heavy construction worker chewed a lot of tobacco and was dIagnosed with STAGE FOUR THROAT CANCER and given THREE MONTHS. Chemo would *maybe* give him a little time, but he was told to get his affairs in order. He went for hemp oil treatment. That was over three years ago. Now he has a two year old son and is expecting another. He maintains by heating organic maple syrup with organic (most are) baking soda and pouring into little cookies he freezes and munches on every day. Baking soda is ALKALINE and cancer hates it. It "hides" inside the sugars of the syrup so when the cancer cells consume the acidic sugar in the syrup they get a Trojan horse of the alkaline baking soda that kills them.

Maybe it's NOT scientific, but it's working. That's all that counts for me.

If you know about homeostasis then you know you want your stomach to be acidic a pH of 4 to 6) to break down nutrients in food, but your body's pH should be around 7.4 to 8. Right? If I'm wrong let me know. You don't have to throw insults at me to educate me.
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Awesome story! PHDUMBS and most traditional doctors in general are shocked when you get better on your own. They don't understand it, because it wasn't covered in their education. Similar stories to yours are all over the internet. Doctors in shock due to an amazing recovery, scratching their heads. They should maybe think their logic is flawed? NO! that's not possible! I have an ego to protect! ;)
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Still waiting, Mungo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


^ broken record.

I see what this is about, and I understand your frustration. Most of the studies you base your "knowledge" on were funded by big pharma via university studies and you cannot accept the fact that you wasted yours of your life believing corporate-fed information. I can understand that would smart a little. I would be frustrated too.

Go eat some fruit and learn to be happy. Form opinions based on the results of actual people, not funded studies meant to sell patents. Celebrex was great on paper.
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Are you an aspiring politician?
It's certainly something you should consider as you're very good at dodging the question (although I suggest you work on your charisma, it's a bit lacking).

Lots of assumptions from you about what I do.
And so far, all of them very wrong.
Keep on trying.
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So you have two choices:

1. Possibly get Parkinson's somewhere down the line and live.

or

2. Die.

They both suck, but #1 is better.
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I thought this was not the fruit itself but the extracts of the bark and leaves.

But that said soursop is not a cancer preventative cancer thing but something one would take if they had cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17348671


It's the both the fruit pulb and leaves. All these dumb toxicity studies are based off of the seeds. I could've done the same study on apple seeds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651


Yeah, it's like those marijuana toxicity studies done in the '70s where they forced monkeys to breathe nothing but marijuana smoke until they died from suffocation, then said marijuana killed the monkeys. No, lack of oxygen killed the monkeys. Always be suspicious of "studies" - especially done by or on behalf of big pharma.
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Thank you for that and I agree 100%. Those that are part of the "groupthink" need their "evidence" because it is the only defense they have. They will ignore actual human experience as fantasy (like seen above) in order to perpetuate their beliefs. This is what we would call head in the sand ;)
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where can i order the damn stuff
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I thought this was not the fruit itself but the extracts of the bark and leaves.

But that said soursop is not a cancer preventative cancer thing but something one would take if they had cancer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17348671


It's the both the fruit pulb and leaves. All these dumb toxicity studies are based off of the seeds. I could've done the same study on apple seeds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651


Yeah, it's like those marijuana toxicity studies done in the '70s where they forced monkeys to breathe nothing but marijuana smoke until they died from suffocation, then said marijuana killed the monkeys. No, lack of oxygen killed the monkeys. Always be suspicious of "studies" - especially done by or on behalf of big pharma.
 Quoting: Cryin Wont Help Ya


Thank you for that and I agree 100%. Those that are part of the "groupthink" need their "evidence" because it is the only defense they have. They will ignore actual human experience as fantasy (like seen above) in order to perpetuate their beliefs. This is what we would call head in the sand ;)
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If you can actually prove this "human experience" then no-one would have any doubt.
Until then stories are just stories.

This is what we call gullible fuckwit.
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Awesome story! PHDUMBS and most traditional doctors in general are shocked when you get better on your own. They don't understand it, because it wasn't covered in their education. Similar stories to yours are all over the internet. Doctors in shock due to an amazing recovery, scratching their heads. They should maybe think their logic is flawed? NO! that's not possible! I have an ego to protect! ;)
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Still waiting, Mungo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


^ broken record.

I see what this is about, and I understand your frustration. Most of the studies you base your "knowledge" on were funded by big pharma via university studies and you cannot accept the fact that you wasted yours of your life believing corporate-fed information. I can understand that would smart a little. I would be frustrated too.

Go eat some fruit and learn to be happy. Form opinions based on the results of actual people, not funded studies meant to sell patents. Celebrex was great on paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



Are you an aspiring politician?
It's certainly something you should consider as you're very good at dodging the question (although I suggest you work on your charisma, it's a bit lacking).

Lots of assumptions from you about what I do.
And so far, all of them very wrong.
Keep on trying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Nah, I just recommend you find ways to be happy. Being open minded is liberating. A study that you could procure from Phizer is not more real than an actual human experience. You seem to be the one avoiding. You already called another poster out on it because it was an actual experience. Their actual human experience wasn't real enough for you. There is nothing more close minded than that. You are the only one here who doesn't seem to realize that.
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Still waiting, Mungo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


^ broken record.

I see what this is about, and I understand your frustration. Most of the studies you base your "knowledge" on were funded by big pharma via university studies and you cannot accept the fact that you wasted yours of your life believing corporate-fed information. I can understand that would smart a little. I would be frustrated too.

Go eat some fruit and learn to be happy. Form opinions based on the results of actual people, not funded studies meant to sell patents. Celebrex was great on paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



Are you an aspiring politician?
It's certainly something you should consider as you're very good at dodging the question (although I suggest you work on your charisma, it's a bit lacking).

Lots of assumptions from you about what I do.
And so far, all of them very wrong.
Keep on trying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Nah, I just recommend you find ways to be happy. Being open minded is liberating. A study that you could procure from Phizer is not more real than an actual human experience. You seem to be the one avoiding. You already called another poster out on it because it was an actual experience. Their actual human experience wasn't real enough for you. There is nothing more close minded than that. You are the only one here who doesn't seem to realize that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



It's not closed-minded at all.
It's called being realistic.
Anyone can say anything about anything on the internet and how do you judge if they're telling the truth based upon that story?
Well, without evidence you can't can you?

Gullibility can be classed being as closed-minded though.
Although I prefer to think of it more as ignorant.
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^ broken record.

I see what this is about, and I understand your frustration. Most of the studies you base your "knowledge" on were funded by big pharma via university studies and you cannot accept the fact that you wasted yours of your life believing corporate-fed information. I can understand that would smart a little. I would be frustrated too.

Go eat some fruit and learn to be happy. Form opinions based on the results of actual people, not funded studies meant to sell patents. Celebrex was great on paper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



Are you an aspiring politician?
It's certainly something you should consider as you're very good at dodging the question (although I suggest you work on your charisma, it's a bit lacking).

Lots of assumptions from you about what I do.
And so far, all of them very wrong.
Keep on trying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Nah, I just recommend you find ways to be happy. Being open minded is liberating. A study that you could procure from Phizer is not more real than an actual human experience. You seem to be the one avoiding. You already called another poster out on it because it was an actual experience. Their actual human experience wasn't real enough for you. There is nothing more close minded than that. You are the only one here who doesn't seem to realize that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



It's not closed-minded at all.
It's called being realistic.
Anyone can say anything about anything on the internet and how do you judge if they're telling the truth based upon that story?
Well, without evidence you can't can you?

Gullibility can be classed being as closed-minded though.
Although I prefer to think of it more as ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Lol, that's my favorite term. I don't know many negative intellectuals who don't call themselves "realists".

Gullibility my friend is believing what you see on paper. Once again, according to your logic, Celebrex was a great pain reliever. It had all the studies and evidence to back it up. Now, the only evidence you will find is all the deaths that occurred from using it.

Evidence is a relative term, and you will hopefully understand this some day. Evidence is a belief system. You choose to either believe what you see on paper, or you don't. Belief in a stack of papers over actual collections of human experience is a socially created construct. You bought into it, hook line and sinker. You choose to follow the phallacy of logic over actual experience. There is nothing i can say that will help you, other than learning it for yourself.
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The Sour Sop or the fruit from the graviola tree is a miraculous natural cancer cell killer 10,000 times stronger than Chemo.

Why are we not aware of this? Its because some big corporation want to make back their money spent on years of research by trying to make a synthetic version of it for sale.


more here:

[link to natural.tv]
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u need to know this. its poison becarefull and beaware.

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Are you an aspiring politician?
It's certainly something you should consider as you're very good at dodging the question (although I suggest you work on your charisma, it's a bit lacking).

Lots of assumptions from you about what I do.
And so far, all of them very wrong.
Keep on trying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Nah, I just recommend you find ways to be happy. Being open minded is liberating. A study that you could procure from Phizer is not more real than an actual human experience. You seem to be the one avoiding. You already called another poster out on it because it was an actual experience. Their actual human experience wasn't real enough for you. There is nothing more close minded than that. You are the only one here who doesn't seem to realize that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



It's not closed-minded at all.
It's called being realistic.
Anyone can say anything about anything on the internet and how do you judge if they're telling the truth based upon that story?
Well, without evidence you can't can you?

Gullibility can be classed being as closed-minded though.
Although I prefer to think of it more as ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Lol, that's my favorite term. I don't know many negative intellectuals who don't call themselves "realists".

Gullibility my friend is believing what you see on paper. Once again, according to your logic, Celebrex was a great pain reliever. It had all the studies and evidence to back it up. Now, the only evidence you will find is all the deaths that occurred from using it.

Evidence is a relative term, and you will hopefully understand this some day. Evidence is a belief system. You choose to either believe what you see on paper, or you don't. Belief in a stack of papers over actual collections of human experience is a socially created construct. You bought into it, hook line and sinker. You choose to follow the phallacy of logic over actual experience. There is nothing i can say that will help you, other than learning it for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



What a pile of bollocks (excuse the french).
Evidence isn't confined to paper. That's as silly as believing stories on the internet.

You'll do anything other than to prove what you say won't you?

Try your nonsense on someone else as it's not working on me.
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The Sour Sop or the fruit from the graviola tree is a miraculous natural cancer cell killer 10,000 times stronger than Chemo.

Why are we not aware of this? Its because some big corporation want to make back their money spent on years of research by trying to make a synthetic version of it for sale.


more here:

[link to natural.tv]
 Quoting: trailingedge


u need to know this. its poison becarefull and beaware.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35729079


All of these scare tactics are coming from one specific source. You should research their track record and where they get funding.
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Nah, I just recommend you find ways to be happy. Being open minded is liberating. A study that you could procure from Phizer is not more real than an actual human experience. You seem to be the one avoiding. You already called another poster out on it because it was an actual experience. Their actual human experience wasn't real enough for you. There is nothing more close minded than that. You are the only one here who doesn't seem to realize that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



It's not closed-minded at all.
It's called being realistic.
Anyone can say anything about anything on the internet and how do you judge if they're telling the truth based upon that story?
Well, without evidence you can't can you?

Gullibility can be classed being as closed-minded though.
Although I prefer to think of it more as ignorant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Lol, that's my favorite term. I don't know many negative intellectuals who don't call themselves "realists".

Gullibility my friend is believing what you see on paper. Once again, according to your logic, Celebrex was a great pain reliever. It had all the studies and evidence to back it up. Now, the only evidence you will find is all the deaths that occurred from using it.

Evidence is a relative term, and you will hopefully understand this some day. Evidence is a belief system. You choose to either believe what you see on paper, or you don't. Belief in a stack of papers over actual collections of human experience is a socially created construct. You bought into it, hook line and sinker. You choose to follow the phallacy of logic over actual experience. There is nothing i can say that will help you, other than learning it for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651



What a pile of bollocks (excuse the french).
Evidence isn't confined to paper. That's as silly as believing stories on the internet.

You'll do anything other than to prove what you say won't you?

Try your nonsense on someone else as it's not working on me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


We call it bullshit here. Go suck on a faggot ;)

Where else would you get your evidence then, if not on paper? With your 5 senses? I would call that an experience, wouldn't you? Or do you expect me to hold your hand, take you to a lab somewhere and replicate results? You'd still have to believe those results were valid ;) Somehow your mind cannot make the association of belief and evidence.

When Celebrex was banned, it wasn't banned because new studies were released. It was banned because of the experience of its users. Inconveniently, they were dying so they had to ban it. This example of human experience isn't valid to you? What is then?
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People, the conflicting toxicity report.....

Dr Alex Schauss

He was involved in the MonaVie acai scam. Many of his studies have been shown to be flaky at best. This cannot be referred to as reliable information. Once again, rely on the overall reports from users who have used the fruit and who are not just testimonials to sell a product. There are plenty.
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Great information. Most people don't realize that the average american is far too acidic when it comes to PH level. This can cause hundreds of issues, weakness, candidiasis, and general immune system problems. Fixing the PH is a great overall way to address a host of issues!

Raw foods are also important. If you live off processed foods laced with chems you are going to lose health. It sounds obvious, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651


What a pile of crap.

Why do people still propagate this pH nonsense?

Your body maintain its own, very stable pH by a process called homeostasis.
Your cells and tissues can only move out of a very tightly controlled pH range when you are severely ill.
It doesn't happen the other way around.

Stop being ignorant and learn some basic physiology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Where did you get your PhD...Cracker Jacks..lol !

Again...dah'.

The Incredible Healing Powers of Organically Grown Raw (Living) Foods and Juices

The fastest way to restore wellness is to stop putting into the body the things that have caused the physical problem to develop in the first place, and then give the body the nutrients it needs to repair and rebuild itself. The body is self-healing when the infraction is stopped and proper nutrients provided.

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
Generational Consequences of Nutritional Deficiency

[link to ahha.org]

Dr. Price traveled to the far corners of the world to find the most primitive cultures on each continent, and compared their traditional diets to the standard Western diet.

[link to www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com]
Dr. Jerry Tennant, MD - "The marine phytoplankton are Nature's gift ....

How Cooked is Too Cooked Nancy Appleton, Ph.D....
yoda
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No, I got mine from a very good red-brick college thanks rather than the online ones that those you've cited "attended".


Please, feel free to change my mind about what I know with full documented and corroborated incidences of people being cured by the methods and/or people you mention.
Sorry, testimonies don't count.

I will agree on one thing though and that a healthy balanced diet rich in fruit and veg may help prevent cancer but to suggest it can cure it is false.
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You ^ lala lol allriiiighty then.


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The Sour Sop or the fruit from the graviola tree is a miraculous natural cancer cell killer 10,000 times stronger than Chemo.

Why are we not aware of this? Its because some big corporation want to make back their money spent on years of research by trying to make a synthetic version of it for sale.


more here:

[link to natural.tv]
 Quoting: trailingedge


Saw this last month I think.

I used to eat this on the the island I am from originally.

Used to be fun going and picking them off the tree and devour them. mmm
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O wait a minute.. Sound too good to be true.. Read; [link to mobile.nutraingredients-usa.com]
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So you have two choices:

1. Possibly get Parkinson's somewhere down the line and live.

or

2. Die.

They both suck, but #1 is better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32895948

That neurotoxicology expert is shocked because the soursop is associated with atypical Parkinson disease because it contains a particular alkaloid (which is toxic for the nervous system).

I don't see why those alkaloids can't be just gotten out of the juice. I am sure there are laboratory methods capable of doing this. You extract the alkaloid, what remains is what you want. After all, this is just the way they make some drugs in the laboratory.
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Great information. Most people don't realize that the average american is far too acidic when it comes to PH level. This can cause hundreds of issues, weakness, candidiasis, and general immune system problems. Fixing the PH is a great overall way to address a host of issues!

Raw foods are also important. If you live off processed foods laced with chems you are going to lose health. It sounds obvious, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6866651


What a pile of crap.

Why do people still propagate this pH nonsense?

Your body maintain its own, very stable pH by a process called homeostasis.
Your cells and tissues can only move out of a very tightly controlled pH range when you are severely ill.
It doesn't happen the other way around.

Stop being ignorant and learn some basic physiology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559803


Where did you get your PhD...Cracker Jacks..lol !

Again...dah'.

The Incredible Healing Powers of Organically Grown Raw (Living) Foods and Juices

The fastest way to restore wellness is to stop putting into the body the things that have caused the physical problem to develop in the first place, and then give the body the nutrients it needs to repair and rebuild itself. The body is self-healing when the infraction is stopped and proper nutrients provided.

Nutrition and Physical Degeneration
Generational Consequences of Nutritional Deficiency

[link to ahha.org]

Dr. Price traveled to the far corners of the world to find the most primitive cultures on each continent, and compared their traditional diets to the standard Western diet.

[link to www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com]
Dr. Jerry Tennant, MD - "The marine phytoplankton are Nature's gift ....

How Cooked is Too Cooked Nancy Appleton, Ph.D....
yoda
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No, I got mine from a very good red-brick college thanks rather than the online ones that those you've cited "attended".


Please, feel free to change my mind about what I know with full documented and corroborated incidences of people being cured by the methods and/or people you mention.
Sorry, testimonies don't count.

I will agree on one thing though and that a healthy balanced diet rich in fruit and veg may help prevent cancer but to suggest it can cure it is false.
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What did you say the name' of your college was...oh that's right you didn't say. lol
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O wait a minute.. Sound too good to be true.. Read; [link to mobile.nutraingredients-usa.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35678945


So you have two choices:

1. Possibly get Parkinson's somewhere down the line and live.

or

2. Die.

They both suck, but #1 is better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32895948

That neurotoxicology expert is shocked because the soursop is associated with atypical Parkinson disease because it contains a particular alkaloid (which is toxic for the nervous system).

I don't see why those alkaloids can't be just gotten out of the juice. I am sure there are laboratory methods capable of doing this. You extract the alkaloid, what remains is what you want. After all, this is just the way they make some drugs in the laboratory.
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If the toxicity report was even valid (which is in question at this point) it's mostly concentrated in the seeds, similar to an apple, which has toxic seeds. As long as the extraction process didn't include the seeds, the amount should be negligible if only used to battle cancerous cells when needed. I agree, they should just extract the alkaloid so that the one argument against this fruit can be tossed out.
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People, the conflicting toxicity report.....

Dr Alex Schauss

He was involved in the MonaVie acai scam. Many of his studies have been shown to be flaky at best. This cannot be referred to as reliable information.
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Could he be involved with some big pharma company ? That would explain the silly attempts to scare the public without mentioning the fact alkaloids can be extracted from the stuff ?
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I just ordered 100 capsules from [link to www.vitaminesperpost.nl]

costed me 25 euro's, will be delivered within 48 hours, Will do some more research...

thanks for enlighting me with this thread, everything is there for us in the nature :-)
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People, the conflicting toxicity report.....

Dr Alex Schauss

He was involved in the MonaVie acai scam. Many of his studies have been shown to be flaky at best. This cannot be referred to as reliable information.
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Could he be involved with some big pharma company ? That would explain the silly attempts to scare the public without mentioning the fact alkaloids can be extracted from the stuff ?
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There are plenty of sources that invalidate his research for MonaVie's products. These firms rely on funding. All you would have to do is find out who funded the study. I would wager it would be big pharma paying for the study at around the same time they were trying to cover up their own studies.
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O wait a minute.. Sound too good to be true.. Read; [link to mobile.nutraingredients-usa.com]
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So you have two choices:

1. Possibly get Parkinson's somewhere down the line and live.

or

2. Die.

They both suck, but #1 is better.
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That neurotoxicology expert is shocked because the soursop is associated with atypical Parkinson disease because it contains a particular alkaloid (which is toxic for the nervous system).

I don't see why those alkaloids can't be just gotten out of the juice. I am sure there are laboratory methods capable of doing this. You extract the alkaloid, what remains is what you want. After all, this is just the way they make some drugs in the laboratory.
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If the toxicity report was even valid (which is in question at this point) it's mostly concentrated in the seeds, similar to an apple, which has toxic seeds. As long as the extraction process didn't include the seeds, the amount should be negligible if only used to battle cancerous cells when needed. I agree, they should just extract the alkaloid so that the one argument against this fruit can be tossed out.
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It is probably just some standard laboratory procedure in biochemistry (I suppose, I am not an expert). Manufacturers of heroin and similar drugs use it as it is the alkaloid they want. It is used to extract nicotin or caffein. It is in fact so silly to use this sort of toxicity argument that one wonders ...
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Take a look at this. Here is the guy who pushed the toxicology study about Soursop. Quote:

"Second, and most important, the independent study performed by Dr. Alexander G. Schauus on the benefits of Monavie that every Monavie distributor across the country references in their presentations has be declared by The National Council Against Health Fraud as a completely invalid study.

Not only that, but Dr. Schauss’s company was raided by the FDA where they seized illegally imported drugs, unapproved medical devices and other items at the clinic. How bogus is the Monavie clinical study now?"

[link to www.accessmylibrary.com]

THIS GUY IS A FRAUD. I WOULD DISREGARD ANY TOXICITY RESULTS FROM THIS FRAUD.
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Take a look at this. Here is the guy who pushed the toxicology study about Soursop. Quote:

"Second, and most important, the independent study performed by Dr. Alexander G. Schauus on the benefits of Monavie that every Monavie distributor across the country references in their presentations has be declared by The National Council Against Health Fraud as a completely invalid study.

Not only that, but Dr. Schauss’s company was raided by the FDA where they seized illegally imported drugs, unapproved medical devices and other items at the clinic. How bogus is the Monavie clinical study now?"

[link to www.accessmylibrary.com]

THIS GUY IS A FRAUD. I WOULD DISREGARD ANY TOXICITY RESULTS FROM THIS FRAUD.
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There it is, folks. Don't listen to any shills about this fruit! This guy was raided by the FDA and posted fraudulent results. This guy was bought and paid for!
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THERE IS ALREADY MANY CURES FOR CANCER. THE PROBLEM IS THEY ARE NATURAL. WHAT SCIENTISTS ARE TRYING TO DO IS COME UP WITH A SYNTHETIC VERSION TO PATENT IT AND MAKE MONEY OUT OF IT!!!

THEREFORE!!! AND I WARN YOU ALL!!! TELL PEOPLE THIS!!! THAT WHEN SCIENTISTS "INVENT" A CURE, WE WILL NOT APPLAUD THEM!!!! WE WILL NOT BE PROUD OF THEM!!! THEY SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED!!!
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I just ordered 100 capsules from [link to www.vitaminesperpost.nl]

costed me 25 euro's, will be delivered within 48 hours, Will do some more research...

thanks for enlighting me with this thread, everything is there for us in the nature :-)
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Please report back and let us know how it goes!
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I just ordered 100 capsules from [link to www.vitaminesperpost.nl]

costed me 25 euro's, will be delivered within 48 hours, Will do some more research...

thanks for enlighting me with this thread, everything is there for us in the nature :-)
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"Cell Reg" folks, "Cell Reg".

It's sourced from the North American paw paw tree, gathered from the twigs, stems, and leaves of the plant at the peak of their potency, and standardized for consistent content.

Can be ordered from Nature's Sunshine, Amazon, or a host of on-line sources.

That's the ticket if you want the maximize the active compounds that paw paw/graviola/soursop/guarabana has to offer.

Should not be taken as a preventative. Should not be taken within 24 hours of chemo/rad, IV Vit C, or baking soda treatments.

Supplement it with lots of turmeric and Vit D3 and good healthy cruciferous veggies and eliminate sugar, non-organic meat, carbos, artificial sweeteners and preservatives.
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From what i have gathered, this fraud that called himself a doctor(he wasn't) was making money by tricking people into believing his studies and "evidence" were real. He made his money setting up speaking engagements around the country. A typical snake oil salesman. This is the source for the toxicology scare over Soursop, and his article has been referenced all over the web.

This appears to be a typical scare tactic. Many other websites have reposted this fraudulent study, and who benefits from this false information? Big Pharma. This information should NOT be on the web at all.
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I just ordered 100 capsules from [link to www.vitaminesperpost.nl]

costed me 25 euro's, will be delivered within 48 hours, Will do some more research...

thanks for enlighting me with this thread, everything is there for us in the nature :-)
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Please report back and let us know how it goes!
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will do !

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