Maritime Jurisdiction and The Three City States

This spiel has been regaining popularity recently and is really making me think it is an intentional misinformation campaign to draw people out who do not conform to the norm.

Maritime law has no teeth outside of commercial transactions. It's all 'UCC' (Uniform Commercial Code - Maritime Law)

Magna Carta. Natural Law. De Jure -vs- de facto. The Laws of the Land. Big difference.

If you don't submit to their jurisdiction, they have none.

Last Edited by MindShaft on 03/07/2013 03:09 AM

This spiel has been regaining popularity recently and is really making me think it is an intentional misinformation campaign to draw people out who do not conform to the norm.
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Sorry but I dont see how this topic is misinformation trying to draw people out. Not enough said about the meat and potatoes of Admiralty Law and those who perpetuate it i.e. TPTB

This site is for those who do not conform. I do not conform, but i do see a trend and I just want to see what others are thinking. Dont be afraid to ask or answer a question. The truth needs no one to defend it, it is self evident, but remember, all it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. Also remember that ignorance has no protection under the law. If we are all secretly owned and have no national independence and all international disputes are orchestrated for theatre i for one would like to know.

That means nothing if it isn't practiced by the global populace, at least in the political and economic realm. People are dying daily, the planet is dying daily, and the system grows ever larger. I'm just trying to keep the convo going as I think it may be a chink in their armor.

It means everything. Knowing that you are not subject to their assumed powers under Maritime law is huge.

You, as an individual rather than a corporation, are not bound by their fake constrictions and limitations.

Please, - research this. And ... the Constitution ...

Please. There is a difference between individual 'soveriegn beings' and the fake 'citizen' status that everyone clings to.

Who the heck would want to submit to a citizen status, when the acceptance of this binds you to their corporate rules and regulations?

The illegal establishment of the Delaware Corporation known as the UNITED STATES, INC in 1871 should be your first point of investigation.

HINT: The true, duly-elected Congress of the United States of America was never legally re-covened after the civil war.

Please. Read your history, people.

Treason and sedition abounded then, as it does now.

Rise up, and demand your birthright.

A Constitutional Republic. The finest model for a free people that was ever devised.

Good reference points and thank you for your contributions. I think what I was trying to say earlier was that regardless of our rights as individuals, TPTB have built a global system out of this mass ignorance. It continues to advance daily. Also, what spawned this perversion of law. The UCC and the federal corporations are down the line. I'm wondering if there is a connectable link between these city-states, central banks, and the "color" of law. Chicken or the egg kinda stuff. What are our rights collectively? Is the only option not to participate while the world is torn to shreds? How do we collectively topple this "color" of law. Is it just the U.S. Fed Corp or are there more nations with their own Gov't Corp? Can we connect the "City of London" to the Vatican other than the obvious routes?

I first heard about this concept around 1992, if you know your conspiracy history you can see the reactions.

I expect derision and disinfo.

This topic resonates with me. I truly feel its been largely ignored by the CT community and could be revelatory in unpickeling this pickel we're in.

As a sovereign individual (i.e. someone who recognizes that your rights do not emanate from the dictates of any governmental directive, but solely from NATURAL LAW), you are on an equal basis with any other 'person' existing on this planet at this time.

You are no higher or lower on this scale than Queen Elizabeth II, or a beggar in the slums of Mumbai, Mombasa or Miami.

Is this concept of personal reality really that hard to comprehend?

No, but it does not provide remedy or recourse. I understand fully what the knowledge you are imparting to us infers. What I am asking for is a larger biopic of the situation we have to deal with. Not philosophical realities. The reality is the world as it is. Can we connect the three city states in the implementation of this "color" of law? We need to connect TPTB to this perversion of law. Im seeing the three city states as the obvious culprits but how and when is what's missing. Also what are our options to combat this perversion of law. Opting out as a sovereign individual is great microcosmically but we need to establish a plan of action macrocosmically and how sir, can we do that? Therein lies the trouble with my comprehension.

No opting-out here. Just a refusal to participate.

De Jure = Natural Law.

De Facto = Perverse, un-Constitutional interpretations of Natural Law for the purpose of advancing the interests of corrupted individuals who might gain from legal 'reforms' or paid interpretations that would favor the patron.

The perversion of this standard arrived with the corporatization of the US Government in 1871. The time when the United States of America, became the UNITED STATES, INC (Delaware Corporation, and no longer beholden to the Constitiution of the United States of America.)

Do your research ... please ...

Get angry.

We've been invaded by foreign interests and no-one seems to give a F*%K.

Last Edited by MindShaft on 03/07/2013 04:26 AM

It seems then our only options are to practice civil disobedience, support revoloution, and hope for a brighter tomorrow. I love Ghandi and Jefferson but I'm not a fan of the consequences for those options. Thank you for your posts sir. How could we incite a return to natural law globally?

Refuse to accept un-constitutional bills, directives, and executive orders emanating from Washington, D.C.

Demand that your State legislatures react to unconstitutional measures instituted by the Federal Goverment by asserting the 10th Amendment rights reserved for your State..

Remind your elected county Sheriff that he/she is the highest law-enforcement authority within his/her jurisdiction, and that his/her sworn duty is to protect your Constitutional rights.

Start there ...

"The perversion of this standard arrived with the corporatization of the US Government in 1871. The time when the United States of America, became the UNITED STATES, INC (Delaware Corporation, and no longer beholden to the Constitiution of the United States of America.)"


I am researching but with so much disinfo it is daunting to say the least.

recently I was reading somewhere that the massive fraud goes back further than the constitution. that there was no quram when George Washington was sworn in! he was sworn in in NY but the NY representatives refused to participate so it was unlawful but the press propiganda carried on and here we are.

so american history is a tough nut to crack.

you have to go back in history but to have refernace for that point you have to go back further and so on.

as far as I can tell right now the problems started with the pythagorians when the musical scale was converted to mathmatics and "divide and average" was accepted. this later enabled Plato by wasy of Archytus to legally determin the "status" of people. this is when the titles of nobility all started and where people were seperated.

now I try to wake up my right-brain so that I can read hyrogliphics hoping to find the key to unlock all this once and for all.

"The perversion of this standard arrived with the corporatization of the US Government in 1871. The time when the United States of America, became the UNITED STATES, INC (Delaware Corporation, and no longer beholden to the Constitiution of the United States of America.)"


I am researching but with so much disinfo it is daunting to say the least.

recently I was reading somewhere that the massive fraud goes back further than the constitution. that there was no quram when George Washington was sworn in! he was sworn in in NY but the NY representatives refused to participate so it was unlawful but the press propiganda carried on and here we are.

so american history is a tough nut to crack.

you have to go back in history but to have refernace for that point you have to go back further and so on.

as far as I can tell right now the problems started with the pythagorians when the musical scale was converted to mathmatics and "divide and average" was accepted. this later enabled Plato by wasy of Archytus to legally determin the "status" of people. this is when the titles of nobility all started and where people were seperated.

now I try to wake up my right-brain so that I can read hyrogliphics hoping to find the key to unlock all this once and for all.

"The perversion of this standard arrived with the corporatization of the US Government in 1871. The time when the United States of America, became the UNITED STATES, INC (Delaware Corporation, and no longer beholden to the Constitiution of the United States of America.)"


I am researching but with so much disinfo it is daunting to say the least.

recently I was reading somewhere that the massive fraud goes back further than the constitution. that there was no quram when George Washington was sworn in! he was sworn in in NY but the NY representatives refused to participate so it was unlawful but the press propiganda carried on and here we are.

so american history is a tough nut to crack.

you have to go back in history but to have refernace for that point you have to go back further and so on.

as far as I can tell right now the problems started with the pythagorians when the musical scale was converted to mathmatics and "divide and average" was accepted. this later enabled Plato by wasy of Archytus to legally determin the "status" of people. this is when the titles of nobility all started and where people were seperated.

now I try to wake up my right-brain so that I can read hyrogliphics hoping to find the key to unlock all this once and for all.

Nice work. What about a connection between the holy roman empire and the city of london? I think that might be a good meridian point on the surface of this beast. Thank you.

It goes all the way down to local law as well. How many cities are incorporated?

We are in for the fight of a lifetime to reverse any of this and it won't happen by fighting it in a courtroom. Too many people have no idea what has happened to us. How do you re-educate an entire country in time?

Serious struggles are ahead of us all.

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People need to see this

5* OP

Thank you.

Everyone should at least start with the basics, and that is get in shape, just in case we have to work (war) for our rights the hard way this time as well.

Exhaust the manner of a gentle, but prepare for the manner of nature.

Everyone spouts off Natural Law, but does not observe Nature at work either.

Animals when an argument will arise will talk it out, and shout it out for a while. If the offending party does not get the picture, bugger off, mortal combat ensues.

Since Natural Law is not the way of life today, and most Humans dont know what exercise is, it would be best to get the body ready for combat, before the pen is ever drawn, so that in case the pen fails, the body will be ready to pick up the slack.

People are starting to get it.
Thread: The land owner that became Washington DC -Rome at that time - was name FRANCIS POPE!

Here Read the story of Esau and Jaccob the two brothers who hated each other....


The US and England....


might help...

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Thread: The United States of The Feathered Serpent God...
Interesting connection. Anyone in the know, knows that the jesuits and the vatican and deeply entangled in an occultic religion with the masons and the illuminati. This worship is of the same as the peoples of the babylonian/egyptian/mayan cultures. The worship of the Feathered Serpents of Orion.

last one promise.

Dear FollowTheLeader26 ( OP ),
You are on a good trail of showing present world situation. I am not as concerned as others as to technicalities of law as “money knows no boundaries”. However I do wish to add some other information that I feel relevant.

1- There was a giant shift in world finance resulting from communism. For example, when Mao won he was confronted by Anthony Eaton who asked him about business and money. Mao was confused and thought meant how countries do business. Mao answered we will adhere to international contracts etc. Eaton said, no we mean what about all the money your larger citizens have now that you are supposedly ‘all equal’? Oh! Giant Chinese trusts were formed and the wealthier Chinese moved to a place near Chung King living as ‘well off peasants’. That has always been off limits to journalists and once a New York Times reporter got into serious trouble for not heeding the rule.

2- The same situation occurred in Russia. Different thoughts as to how this was resolved. Catholic trusts might well play a part. The Riley escapades were part of this. Note that the Irish are ‘well respected’ in Mermansk.


3- Some consider the Norwegian Lady to be the biggest international trust. Holding the trusts are property, (with statues facing each other). One is in Moss, Norway and the other in Virginia Beach, US. In the 1980s there was a small concern and the King and Queen of Norway flew right over to NOB, Norfolk. Israelis always snooping around that trust.

4- There is a very natural and very potent force pushing all world banking closer and closer to a world bank. One good aspect of this would be that if there are problems those at top can’t escape by power-blocks pointing to each other.


5- This movement toward ‘one bank’ is naturally countered by a force of desire for more local control. This control would include banking.

6- Points 4 and 5 seem very much at odds but at the end would work well as balancing forces.


7- World economies and present wars are jostling positions of power within a coming world bank.

8- Movement in this direction is dangerous if it goes too quickly. First, there is still a strong need for secret banking beyond the Swiss concept. In other words still needs for Cyprus type banking and Cayman Island groups. This is because the drug trade supplies much of the needed international security apparatus. Some would say to end this. They are only action on a misuse of concepts of openness when hard reality, ‘life-on-life’s-terms’ must be faced. As an example this includes the necessity of slowing down the “logical” legalization of marijuana. Marijuana makes up about 70% of illegal funds. Most all is payoff but what remains provides seriously needed security intel. Even more important is that marijuana goes into greater areas of demographics whereas much of the other illegal drug trade sits within the unimportant.

It would be interesting to keep expanding the general area targeted here. Thanks.
Rinty

Good Stuff!! Thanx for the posts and the stars.