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Is the Illuminati fullfilling the Book of Revelation on purpose?

 
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I don't know honestly, it could be that they are fulfilling it on purpose, thinking it will deceive more people, making it fit into their own agenda somehow..

I don't know, it is very confusing.
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
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If you think they can cause comets and asteroids and eclipses and earthquakes and volcanoes and locusts and hail the size of boulders and freak tornadoes and hurricanes...then yes. But obviously the answer is no. Why not just admit the self evident truth?
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Truth is never self-evident.

You want scripture to be completely true because it means you don't need to learn anything or put any effort into fighting back against the illuminati.

You just need to sit around on your ass living life being selfish while waiting for Jesus to come fix your problems for you.

All you're doing is deluding yourself into believing the entirety of the Bible is fact and your soul is saved because you believe in Jesus because there are some parallels between some events and biblical prophecy.

There is no doubt that there are some similarities between current events and biblical prophecy... but that hardly proves it's the word of God and Jesus is the only path to heaven.
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Everything is going exactly how they want it to go.. People growing to HATE Christians and get everyone to steer away from Christ. If they're all under Lucifer and follow or "work for" the devil, so to say, wouldn't that be their main goal?
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I would say that it is the fanatical christians who turned me away from Christ.
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Though I would personally agree with turning away from Jesus, what a dumb move lol.

"I believe in you god but I wont anymore because of other people that believe in you" lol. Terrible logic
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Excellent point; proving that true Christianity is genetic: you're either born a child of God, or you're not. No child of God would ever be swayed by lies, because we recognize the truth -- it's in our hearts, minds, and DNA.
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Illuminati have their own version of scripture.
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
 Quoting: Illuminus 35391653


Anything... Anything... ANYTHING... except for the truth, with you idiots.

Yeah, the Illuminati (and Satan) are having a great laugh... On you. Having deceived another clueless atheist that had all the forewarning a person could ever hope to have, and STILL coming up with the exact OPPOSITE of reality.

Should be entertaining, when you stand before God, having been given every imaginable chance in the world, but preferring lies and deception.

Enjoy the Mark. You'll be taking it, I would wager.
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It is always about fear with you "christians" isn't it? What makes what you believe in any better then what another culture's belief systems are?
 Quoting: katballoo


Its honestly not about fear. Its about truth.

Judaism is the oldest belief system. Other cultures belief systems came from peoples who were worshipping the moon, the sun, etc. Mohammed based his religion on a moon god. Egyptians stole elements of their myths from the Jews, its been proven. The first two people had multiple children that spread out and peopled the earth, they fell away from fait in the true God, but much of the original Hebrew beliefs were included in the myths they created, thus the similiar ideas.

Christianity is the coming of the Jewish Messiah. I believe God will save some who have not heard the name of Christ.....depends on their heart. The Illuminati exists as a Luciferian pawn. They are not causing anything to happen, they want you to believe the lie you are buying. Anything to keep your eyes off the truth.

there is so much more evidence, but i dont have time to write it all out now. Christ is real, bible prophecy goes much deeper than the end times. The book of Daniel foretold of every empire and he order they rose and fall. At some point the self fulfillment idea becomes so insane its ludicrous.
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Seriously?

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I'm with you. The Bible tells us to watch out, to avoid. When we see these things happen, know what time it is. How you get the elite plotting this, is beyond me, because only a few are taking heed to these warnings, as everyone else is too focused on themselves to notice what's going on. So, IF the elite WERE, they are doing a CRAPPY job.
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And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

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Yes. I believe they are doing it to trick the bibletards into their NWO. They are using many types of propaganda to deceive many types of groups at once. New agers are another group being bamboozled. They have something for everyone!
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How can they trick bibletards into NWO? If bibletards were warned of the NWO and their plans, I don't get it, can you explain please? I'm not attacking you I just ask.
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Most Bible-tards are following the false prophet religion. Christian Zionism.

The Bible is accurate when it says that most will lose their way.


Jesus wanted us to love everyone, including our enemies.



The false Christians go around following their redneck pastors like John Hagee who pray for death and destruction of the Middle East for their precious Israel.
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duh. it's called self-fulfilling prophecy. set up some ancient books, make events steer towards them, then it seems all magickal and prophetic, but it's all engineered.;
 Quoting: Skin Suit


This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
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LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
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A good majority of those in power are from the Merovingian bloodline which traces back to Charlemagne who in turn traces back to the Flavian family of Rome. All the early church fathers were of the Flavian family. Vespasian was "God" and Titus, the "Son of God". Check out "Caesar's Messiah" if you want to see 'the smoking gun'.

And it doesn't take a lot of tech to pull off as long as you keep the people ignorant, superstitious and gullible, they'll believe anything they're told. Look at the commotion caused by the original radio airing of "War of the Worlds".
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Was Jesus a time traveler ?
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Nah I think they're trying their best to avoid it being fulfilled.
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duh. it's called self-fulfilling prophecy. set up some ancient books, make events steer towards them, then it seems all magickal and prophetic, but it's all engineered.;
 Quoting: Skin Suit


This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34985387


Israel coming back to it's original homeland after being scattered around the world is a major prophecy fulfilled. For hundreds of years, few believed that this would ever take place.


Next to watch for........a day's wages for a loaf of bread on a worldwide scale. (3rd Seal); engineered by the elites.

4th Seal.....approx. 25% of the world's population perishing from plague and various other causes; engineered by the elites.

Then someone coming back from the dead.....the final man of evil. Because of this miracle, many will follow after him.

5th Seal.....people required to take the mark to buy or sell; persecution of the Jews and Christians by the man of evil, false prophet, and their followers.

6th Seal......worldwide darkness for an unspecified period of time.

7th Seal......God's wrath......comprising the final one to two years prior to the establishment of the Millenial Kingdom..... with Christ as King over the world.
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
 Quoting: Illuminus 35391653


Anything... Anything... ANYTHING... except for the truth, with you idiots.

Yeah, the Illuminati (and Satan) are having a great laugh... On you. Having deceived another clueless atheist that had all the forewarning a person could ever hope to have, and STILL coming up with the exact OPPOSITE of reality.

Should be entertaining, when you stand before God, having been given every imaginable chance in the world, but preferring lies and deception.

Enjoy the Mark. You'll be taking it, I would wager.
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It is always about fear with you "christians" isn't it? What makes what you believe in any better then what another culture's belief systems are?
 Quoting: katballoo


Its honestly not about fear. Its about truth.

Judaism is the oldest belief system. Other cultures belief systems came from peoples who were worshipping the moon, the sun, etc. Mohammed based his religion on a moon god. Egyptians stole elements of their myths from the Jews, its been proven. The first two people had multiple children that spread out and peopled the earth, they fell away from fait in the true God, but much of the original Hebrew beliefs were included in the myths they created, thus the similiar ideas.

Christianity is the coming of the Jewish Messiah. I believe God will save some who have not heard the name of Christ.....depends on their heart. The Illuminati exists as a Luciferian pawn. They are not causing anything to happen, they want you to believe the lie you are buying. Anything to keep your eyes off the truth.

there is so much more evidence, but i dont have time to write it all out now. Christ is real, bible prophecy goes much deeper than the end times. The book of Daniel foretold of every empire and he order they rose and fall. At some point the self fulfillment idea becomes so insane its ludicrous.
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Yes, I believe that atheists intentionally overlook that the elite are avid Luciferians, for if they are, then that means that the elite know God exists. Which means that the media and society are obviously anti-God and anti-bible for a reason. Every atheist should read Alice Bailey's 10 point plan for the NWO. They'll believe then.

Oh and;

Matthew 24:14 KJV
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

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1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Isaiah 9:6 KJV
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Mark 16:16 KJV
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 KJV
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Romans 8:6-9 KJV
6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV
8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Acts 5:29 KJV
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

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duh. it's called self-fulfilling prophecy. set up some ancient books, make events steer towards them, then it seems all magickal and prophetic, but it's all engineered.;
 Quoting: Skin Suit


This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
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A good majority of those in power are from the Merovingian bloodline which traces back to Charlemagne who in turn traces back to the Flavian family of Rome
. All the early church fathers were of the Flavian family. Vespasian was "God" and Titus, the "Son of God". Check out "Caesar's Messiah" if you want to see 'the smoking gun'.

And it doesn't take a lot of tech to pull off as long as you keep the people ignorant, superstitious and gullible, they'll believe anything they're told. Look at the commotion caused by the original radio airing of "War of the Worlds".
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The part in bold is opinion. What EVIDENCE have you seen that this is true? Honest question because anybody could make that claim.

Even so it still doesnt make sense. So they wrote the bible KNOWING that they would have the technology to make it come to pass? Such as changing weather? Making a man come with clouds in the sky? Making waters to turn blood red? These are just a few I can remember. How did they know they were going to have this technology? Unless they are Gods like they think (they arent lol)
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Dready dude says we have to fulfill the book.
You wanna argue with dready dude?

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duh. it's called self-fulfilling prophecy. set up some ancient books, make events steer towards them, then it seems all magickal and prophetic, but it's all engineered.;
 Quoting: Skin Suit


This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
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A good majority of those in power are from the Merovingian bloodline which traces back to Charlemagne who in turn traces back to the Flavian family of Rome. All the early church fathers were of the Flavian family. Vespasian was "God" and Titus, the "Son of God". Check out "Caesar's Messiah" if you want to see 'the smoking gun'.

And it doesn't take a lot of tech to pull off as long as you keep the people ignorant, superstitious and gullible, they'll believe anything they're told. Look at the commotion caused by the original radio airing of "War of the Worlds".
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Just noticed this. It doesnt take a lot of tech to PULL OF CHANGING THE WEATHER? It doesnt take a lot of tech to make a man appear as if he is coming with the clouds?You dont believe this stuff do you?
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
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yes! i have thought this for years . they are doing to get all the crazy religious nuts all wound up and fearful for the ultimate manipulation into a one world state through religis war(s)
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If you think they can cause comets and asteroids and eclipses and earthquakes and volcanoes and locusts and hail the size of boulders and freak tornadoes and hurricanes...then yes. But obviously the answer is no. Why not just admit the self evident truth?
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My thoughs exacly. Truth is here in front of our eyes, but very few of us to admit it and repent.
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Comets, asteroids, eclipses, earthquakes, volcanoes, hail, locusts, etc. are all a part of nature. We have been having this kind of stuff for as long as I can remember. Why is this so self-evident?
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I pray for God to reach you. Seriously, I have read some of your posts here, and you are a very beautiful lady, and you seem very intelligent. I respect your opinions, and I for some reason don't want to see you lost in particular. I am seriously praying for God to touch your heart.
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I believe in a God, it just isn't the same fear driven God that the fanatical people believe in. I have the intelligence to realize that there are many religions that are very self-serving, and some are downright evil to the core. I can also question the bible, as it was created by man who says it was created by the hand of God. I don't believe that God is an ever fearing "entity" who will damn everyone to hell who does not believe in what the bible says. There are too many other cultures who have different belief systems, why is theirs so wrong, when they believe it is so right. This division is what brings people to hate each other, and it is wrong.

Repenting? I think life is a learning experience that we all have to go through, and hopefully, we all find our way, and learn from our many mistakes, and grow wiser as we age, and more empathetic to others, and more tolerable of what other's belief systems are. I know that the fanatical "cristians" are not going to get anyone to even "want" to believe in God when they rave and rant about people being damned if they do not believe. I actually feel that some of them enjoy the thought of people burning in hell, with the way they carry on.

Anyways, I do believe that there is something, but what, I am not sure. I haven't had the proof yet, and that is what I am waiting for.
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Watch the old show millenium
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duh. it's called self-fulfilling prophecy. set up some ancient books, make events steer towards them, then it seems all magickal and prophetic, but it's all engineered.;
 Quoting: Skin Suit


This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34985387


Israel coming back to it's original homeland after being scattered around the world is a major prophecy fulfilled. For hundreds of years, few believed that this would ever take place.


Next to watch for........a day's wages for a loaf of bread on a worldwide scale. (3rd Seal); engineered by the elites.

4th Seal.....approx. 25% of the world's population perishing from plague and various other causes; engineered by the elites.

Then someone coming back from the dead.....the final man of evil. Because of this miracle, many will follow after him.

5th Seal.....people required to take the mark to buy or sell; persecution of the Jews and Christians by the man of evil, false prophet, and their followers.

6th Seal......worldwide darkness for an unspecified period of time.

7th Seal......God's wrath......comprising the final one to two years prior to the establishment of the Millenial Kingdom..... with Christ as King over the world.
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I believe in the God of Abraham but not so much Jesus. I guess we'll see if he comes back like he said he would though its been 2000 years since he said that "some here will not taste death before they see the son of man coming in his glory" or something of the sort. I could be wrong though so I'll wait and see if he does as he said he would
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duh. it's called self-fulfilling prophecy. set up some ancient books, make events steer towards them, then it seems all magickal and prophetic, but it's all engineered.;
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^This^
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The "power elite" have a technological advantage like no other entity. They give technology out to the masses when it behooves them to do so, i.e the Iphone. They suppress knowledge of technology and keep it as an insurance policy to carry out their evil shit, i.e. Chemtrails. It's been 40+ years since we went to the moon (if you believe we went in the first place). You cannot begin to imagine what bullshit tactics these assholes have up their sleeves.

Co-opting the bible should not be a big fucking surprise to you....They do it. Get over it!

Are you gonna shit yourself when the next pope calls himself Peter? WTF? Are you fucking stupid?

Wake the fuck up!!!!
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
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Well who do you think wrote it genius?
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Yes. I believe they are doing it to trick the bibletards into their NWO. They are using many types of propaganda to deceive many types of groups at once. New agers are another group being bamboozled. They have something for everyone!
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How can they trick bibletards into NWO? If bibletards were warned of the NWO and their plans, I don't get it, can you explain please? I'm not attacking you I just ask.
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Because they are following the book of revelations and when bluebeam Jesus appears many christians will in fact be deceived.
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
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If you think they can cause comets and asteroids and eclipses and earthquakes and volcanoes and locusts and hail the size of boulders and freak tornadoes and hurricanes...then yes. But obviously the answer is no. Why not just admit the self evident truth?
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Obviously? How quaint...faith can only exist in the absence of fact. The bible, arguably being around since the first century, has been manipulated and imitated for a very long time. If you really want to think about it...anyone who can act out the prophesies will be God, in a sense. If power is the true pursuit of the elite, there is no power greater than that. Using HAARP to create apocalyptic events and acting out the return of Christ will have the entire planet converted...which has been the goal since the crusades...but now technology allows different approaches to be taken....
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Despite what they have YOU thinking, they do not have unlimited power to where they can do whatever they set their mind to. This is faith in the absence of fact like you were talking lol
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Lol...in that case, I'll write another book to the bible...as far as unlimited power...I don't know where you got that idea from...but what is a God? When did monotheism become popular? I only bring this up to point out that humanity's idea of what God(s) is/are has constantly changed throughout history based on certain events. In every case, legends were created to explain the unexplainable. God created man in His image...now man is creating man in his image. What is weather? What are "natural" disasters? What underlying factors cause them? I'm speaking with someone that probably doesn't understand how they get those tiny people in his t.v. set and thinks it's impossible to alter these underlying factors...nuclear fusion does not exist...microwaves do not exist...it's all God...
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This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
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LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
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Israel coming back to it's original homeland after being scattered around the world is a major prophecy fulfilled. For hundreds of years, few believed that this would ever take place.


Next to watch for........a day's wages for a loaf of bread on a worldwide scale. (3rd Seal); engineered by the elites.

4th Seal.....approx. 25% of the world's population perishing from plague and various other causes; engineered by the elites.

Then someone coming back from the dead.....the final man of evil. Because of this miracle, many will follow after him.

5th Seal.....people required to take the mark to buy or sell; persecution of the Jews and Christians by the man of evil, false prophet, and their followers.

6th Seal......worldwide darkness for an unspecified period of time.

7th Seal......God's wrath......comprising the final one to two years prior to the establishment of the Millenial Kingdom..... with Christ as King over the world.
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I believe in the God of Abraham but not so much Jesus. I guess we'll see if he comes back like he said he would though its been 2000 years since he said that "some here will not taste death before they see the son of man coming in his glory" or something of the sort. I could be wrong though so I'll wait and see if he does as he said he would
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The Book of Isaiah......written approx. 700 B.C.





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lol @ the guy who said truth is never self-evident. that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard in my life. anyways, it is really refreshing to see how many people in these threads have accepted the simple reality that the Bible is actually full of prophecy and it is not any more complicated than that. there are so many alternative theories on this forum and people trying to explain away everything. yes life is complex but it is not that complex. all these people trying to make it seem like Christians are complacent yet, somehow i dont see these anti christian people really fixing anything themselves. you can have all the intent you want, you are not gonna stop the nwo and you are probably going to blame all the Christians etc for not doing anything but the fact is that these things will come to pass no matter how awake you think you are. People always feel like they gotta transcend every single answer in order to be awake but the truth is that the Bible was your final answer, it was handed to you on a silver platter. just be content with that. Jesus never steered anybody wrong. Just stop it already.
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Or is it just a coincidence? Seems as though most of it is accurate. Makes me wonder whether the Illuminati is having a great laugh.
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I think time travel is totally real and so this is yes! They are roll playing the bible! No doubt about it !

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If you continue to look into all this it seems that the rich are rich for good reason and all roads lead to Rome!

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This ^^^^

They wrote the darn thing in the first place
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LMAO Stop it. Im not even christian but what yall are suggesting is that THEY wrote the prophecies hundreds to thousands of years ago knowing they would have the technology to make it come to pass? They must all be Gods then like they think lol

The more logical conclusion is one of two things.

1. The Hebrews wrote the bible and now they're doing their best to fulfill it. Even if this was the case (and I doubt it) it would still be the prophecy being fulfilled. It doesnt matter if its forced or not. Just as if I told you that you would die tomorrow and someone overheard me and went and killed you. My prophecy (that you would die tomorrow) came to pass.

2. The Hebrews wrote it and it is being fulfilled.

I guess I forgot the third option that its not being fulfilled in the manner that people are acting. Can anyone point me out to what exactly is being fulfilled out of Revelation?
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A good majority of those in power are from the Merovingian bloodline which traces back to Charlemagne who in turn traces back to the Flavian family of Rome
. All the early church fathers were of the Flavian family. Vespasian was "God" and Titus, the "Son of God". Check out "Caesar's Messiah" if you want to see 'the smoking gun'.

And it doesn't take a lot of tech to pull off as long as you keep the people ignorant, superstitious and gullible, they'll believe anything they're told. Look at the commotion caused by the original radio airing of "War of the Worlds".
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The part in bold is opinion. What EVIDENCE have you seen that this is true? Honest question because anybody could make that claim.

Even so it still doesnt make sense. So they wrote the bible KNOWING that they would have the technology to make it come to pass? Such as changing weather? Making a man come with clouds in the sky? Making waters to turn blood red? These are just a few I can remember. How did they know they were going to have this technology? Unless they are Gods like they think (they arent lol)
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I've done extensive personal research. The evidence is out there if you are really curious - I just don't have links handy at the moment.

Like I said, knowing about future tech really wouldn't be necessary. Before we had TV, radio etc., people got their news word of mouth. The herd believes what they are told. Same still applies today - news can be and is often faked.
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Illuminati are plural.

One of the reasons we own Earth is that you sheep-apes are retarded by choice.
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OP, you are right. It seems rather counter intuitive, heh?
OH lookie, if we do this, we gets wars,famine, pestulance, and destruction. And, oh wow, Jesus might come down in his space ship if we do. Well, let's get it on. Let's destroy everything to force Jesus to land and take us into custody.
Yeh, that's what to do.

Or, as intelligent people would do, they see it all as an instruction manual of what not to do. If prophecy says if they do this then this bad thing will happen, an intelligent person would say, well fuck that, I'm going the other way.

So, now you know with certainty that the people who are perpetrating all of this are ignorant maniacal and diabolical idiots that should be kept in rubber rooms for the duration.
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Illuminati are plural.

One of the reasons we own Earth is that you sheep-apes are retarded by choice.
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who is the we in that sentence? lol

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