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Phylax User ID: 31177572 United States 03/09/2013 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karin Halstead is a volunteer firefighter and a first responder and yet the interview with her, her father, and two other firefighters didn't suggest terrible anxiety at having her mother unaccounted for in excess of three hours. I think she was unconcerned because she always believed a drill was in progress and didn't realize that the reason no EMTs, firefighters, and photographers were allowed inside the school was that the drill had turned "live" and there were authentic casualties - an unforgiveable development that threw the State Police into panic as they communicated with federal officials to decide what to do to "cover" the state's liability. |
Fred-S (OP) User ID: 33015295 Switzerland 03/09/2013 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karin Halstead is a volunteer firefighter and a first responder and yet the interview with her, her father, and two other firefighters didn't suggest terrible anxiety at having her mother unaccounted for in excess of three hours. I think she was unconcerned because she always believed a drill was in progress and didn't realize that the reason no EMTs, firefighters, and photographers were allowed inside the school was that the drill had turned "live" and there were authentic casualties - an unforgiveable development that threw the State Police into panic as they communicated with federal officials to decide what to do to "cover" the state's liability. Quoting: Phylax if you talk about this [link to www.youtube.com] yes, but if they believe in a drill, they didnt started to doubt when they had seen CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX...and helicopters? |
Fred-S (OP) User ID: 33015295 Switzerland 03/09/2013 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Fred-S if you talk about this [link to www.youtube.com] yes, but if they believe in a drill, they didnt started to doubt when they had seen CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX...and helicopters? ohhh and at 2:07, the journalist tells "they didnt know" their mother was in the school. Because Barbara Halstead was remplacing Joanne Didonato (the official SH secretary) so.. possible they ignore Barbara was inside. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21158823 United States 03/09/2013 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karin Halstead is a volunteer firefighter and a first responder and yet the interview with her, her father, and two other firefighters didn't suggest terrible anxiety at having her mother unaccounted for in excess of three hours. I think she was unconcerned because she always believed a drill was in progress and didn't realize that the reason no EMTs, firefighters, and photographers were allowed inside the school was that the drill had turned "live" and there were authentic casualties - an unforgiveable development that threw the State Police into panic as they communicated with federal officials to decide what to do to "cover" the state's liability. Quoting: Phylax Is your theory that this was a drill where someone opened fire with live rounds by mistake? Kind of like spraying a burning man with mace, only worse-Police do make mistakes, after all. Example follows: [link to voices.yahoo.com] The City of Portland, Oregon Is buzzing this morning with the news that a Portland Police officer mistakenly doused a man, who had set himself on fire, with huge amounts of pepper spray, or mace, as he flailed in what turned out to be his last, dying, moments of life. |
Phylax User ID: 31177572 United States 03/09/2013 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karin Halstead is a volunteer firefighter and a first responder and yet the interview with her, her father, and two other firefighters didn't suggest terrible anxiety at having her mother unaccounted for in excess of three hours. I think she was unconcerned because she always believed a drill was in progress and didn't realize that the reason no EMTs, firefighters, and photographers were allowed inside the school was that the drill had turned "live" and there were authentic casualties - an unforgiveable development that threw the State Police into panic as they communicated with federal officials to decide what to do to "cover" the state's liability. Quoting: Phylax Is your theory that this was a drill where someone opened fire with live rounds by mistake? Kind of like spraying a burning man with mace, only worse-Police do make mistakes, after all. Example follows: [link to voices.yahoo.com] The City of Portland, Oregon Is buzzing this morning with the news that a Portland Police officer mistakenly doused a man, who had set himself on fire, with huge amounts of pepper spray, or mace, as he flailed in what turned out to be his last, dying, moments of life. No, not by mistake, but by design. It follows the scheme used on 9/11 and 7/7 in which drills with identical narratives were being played out at the same time and place as the "real" attacks. Visor Consultants had 1000 participants in their drill that mimicked the particulars of the London Bombing on the morning of 7/7/2005 and no one was more astonished by the "conincidence" than the Visor executive in charge. These programs include killing designated patsies and in the case of London that meant killing the four so-called "suicide bombers" In the case of Sandy Hook it meant killing Adam Lanza. The panicked State Police were told to follow the established narrative involving an altercation, a kindergarten teacher mother, a suicide and a number of casualties, but it was necessary to keep most of the "players" away from the real casualties. |
Phylax User ID: 31177572 United States 03/09/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karin Halstead is a volunteer firefighter and a first responder and yet the interview with her, her father, and two other firefighters didn't suggest terrible anxiety at having her mother unaccounted for in excess of three hours. I think she was unconcerned because she always believed a drill was in progress and didn't realize that the reason no EMTs, firefighters, and photographers were allowed inside the school was that the drill had turned "live" and there were authentic casualties - an unforgiveable development that threw the State Police into panic as they communicated with federal officials to decide what to do to "cover" the state's liability. Quoting: Phylax if you talk about this [link to www.youtube.com] yes, but if they believe in a drill, they didnt started to doubt when they had seen CNN, ABC, NBC, FOX...and helicopters? No, because players are never in on the whole show. You will remember that the father of child witness, Alexis, stated that "we had six helicopters in the air." The mainstream media was expected to supply verisimilitude to "grief-stricken parents" and give the actors a venue for telling their stories. For all we know the stories told by Cox, Sibley, and the McDonnells were recorded prior to 12/14. |
Fred-S (OP) User ID: 33015295 Switzerland 03/09/2013 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, because players are never in on the whole show. You will remember that the father of child witness, Alexis, stated that "we had six helicopters in the air." The mainstream media was expected to supply verisimilitude to "grief-stricken parents" and give the actors a venue for telling their stories. For all we know the stories told by Cox, Sibley, and the McDonnells were recorded prior to 12/14. Quoting: Phylax But Barbara Halstead was substitute clerk this day... they could ignore, she was inside. But i dont know why Barbara didnt witness... nurse Cox did. |
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SnakeAirlines User ID: 35561930 United States 03/09/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you remember Barbara Halstead? the Sandy Hook clerk? Quoting: Fred-S the one who stay 4 hours in closet with nurse Cox... I dont find anything about her. no picture, no interview. Not enough whacking material on the net, eh sport? "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
Phylax User ID: 31177572 United States 03/09/2013 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, because players are never in on the whole show. You will remember that the father of child witness, Alexis, stated that "we had six helicopters in the air." The mainstream media was expected to supply verisimilitude to "grief-stricken parents" and give the actors a venue for telling their stories. For all we know the stories told by Cox, Sibley, and the McDonnells were recorded prior to 12/14. Quoting: Phylax But Barbara Halstead was substitute clerk this day... they could ignore, she was inside. But i dont know why Barbara didnt witness... nurse Cox did. My guess is that Cox was telling the story that she had been given. That story included the nonsense about the clerk holding the phone while Cox dialed. I think it unlikely that Halstead was even there - the clerk was just part of the narrative, just like the janitor checking the doors. It is preposterous to think that two women would sit in a closet for three hours while they are listening to the orderly evacuation of students - unless the real shooting and resulting panic unnerved them. The missing Barbara Halstead is just one of numerous inconsistencies that occurred when the play was used to cover a false flag operation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 03/09/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you say that? I looked her up and got a response for Barbara B. a Barbara T. a Barbara Jean and a Barbara Ellen (Bobbie), all living supposedly in tiny little Sandy Hook. Or used to. When I see that I always think somebody's been flooding the search engine with false names to follow. Daughter Krista works for Pitney Bowes. It seems like somebody else pertinent to the story also worked at Pitney Bowes. Does anyone remember who? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 03/09/2013 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zephyr also has a terrific find on this thread that relates Barbara to the Kowalskis. I knew Chase's grandfather was the former Monroe fire chief, I just never knew he was brother-in-law or former brother in law with Bill Halstead. Small world. [link to godlikeproductions.com] |
Fred-S (OP) User ID: 33015295 Switzerland 03/09/2013 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zephyr also has a terrific find on this thread that relates Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Barbara to the Kowalskis. I knew Chase's grandfather was the former Monroe fire chief, I just never knew he was brother-in-law or former brother in law with Bill Halstead. Small world. [link to godlikeproductions.com] yes.. if you like genealogy [link to www.findagrave.com] [link to www.findagrave.com] but i dont think the Kowalski are in the same family. but another Kowalski family have child at SH [link to www.bostonglobe.com] too much Kowalski... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1482838 United States 03/09/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Zephyr also has a terrific find on this thread that relates Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 Barbara to the Kowalskis. I knew Chase's grandfather was the former Monroe fire chief, I just never knew he was brother-in-law or former brother in law with Bill Halstead. Small world. [link to godlikeproductions.com] yes.. if you like genealogy [link to www.findagrave.com] [link to www.findagrave.com] but i dont think the Kowalski are in the same family. but another Kowalski family have child at SH [link to www.bostonglobe.com] too much Kowalski... I think these people are key. There has to be links to tie all these Sandy Hook people together. Friends, relatives, possibly Elks club or Masonic connections. Donna and Ken Kowalski live at 3 Sunnyvale Terrace which is the house directly in front of the Fire Dept. It's at the corner basically of Riverside Road and Sunnyvale. That would be what his Uncle Bill over there as Chief? |
Fred User ID: 31413939 France 03/09/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think these people are key. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 There has to be links to tie all these Sandy Hook people together. Friends, relatives, possibly Elks club or Masonic connections. Donna and Ken Kowalski live at 3 Sunnyvale Terrace which is the house directly in front of the Fire Dept. It's at the corner basically of Riverside Road and Sunnyvale. That would be what his Uncle Bill over there as Chief? this is a small place... it's often like this in small place. but maybe there is connection. |
blind squirrel User ID: 31185579 United States 03/10/2013 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think these people are key. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838 There has to be links to tie all these Sandy Hook people together. Friends, relatives, possibly Elks club or Masonic connections. Donna and Ken Kowalski live at 3 Sunnyvale Terrace which is the house directly in front of the Fire Dept. It's at the corner basically of Riverside Road and Sunnyvale. That would be what his Uncle Bill over there as Chief? this is a small place... it's often like this in small place. but maybe there is connection. This house at 3 Sunnyvale Terrace is where Gene Rosen had done one of his interviews.....the one where you see the sign at the fire station flashing "everyone check in here" "Even a broken clock is right twice a day!" |
Fred User ID: 31413939 France 03/10/2013 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: blind squirrel This house at 3 Sunnyvale Terrace is where Gene Rosen had done one of his interviews.....the one where you see the sign at the fire station flashing "everyone check in here" when you see they have porta-potty on scene 4 hours after the event. "no media beyond this point" board... it's not surprising they have this kind of board the days following the event for the press. |
goldielucks User ID: 794598 United States 03/10/2013 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: blind squirrel This house at 3 Sunnyvale Terrace is where Gene Rosen had done one of his interviews.....the one where you see the sign at the fire station flashing "everyone check in here" when you see they have porta-potty on scene 4 hours after the event. "no media beyond this point" board... it's not surprising they have this kind of board the days following the event for the press. |
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jbc549 User ID: 41597493 United States 12/05/2013 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Barbara Halstead is my sister. Yes, she was the first one to call 911 on that day. You can hear her call when listening to the 911 tapes which were released yesterday. I take offense to the posting saying Karin, her daughter, my niece was not concerned. Since I live out of state, I was on the phone with Karin throughout the day. Her first call to me told me that they thought she was dead. The reports that came back to the Fire dept. and EMTs were that there were no survivors left in the building. Krista as well at their brother, Bill Jr were all at the fire house waiting for any news about their mother. Barbara hid under her desk as the shooter entered into the school office. She saw his feet pass by her desk. When he entered the nurse's room and saw no one, he walked out. That is when Barbara ran into the nurses room. They both hid under a desk while Barbara called 911. When they felt it was safe, they moved to a closet. That is where they hid for 4 hours. When the state police said every nook and cranny was searched, they lied. My sister told me they heard the voices, sirens, helicopters but NO ONE opened the door to the closet where they hid. Only after the 4 hours of hiding, she and the nurse cracked open the closet door to listen and decided that they could exit the closet. Barbara is a full time employee at the Sandy Hook School and has been for many, many years. She was NOT a temporary or substitute employee as someone else suggested. Barbara was hounded by the press after the shooting. They camped out on her lawn and wanted interviews. She is a private person and had just gone through a great ordeal and did not want any kind of exposure. After a year, she is still dealing with a lot but each day it gets a little bit easier. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22918479 United States 12/05/2013 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Barbara Halstead is my sister. Yes, she was the first one to call 911 on that day. You can hear her call when listening to the 911 tapes which were released yesterday. I take offense to the posting saying Karin, her daughter, my niece was not concerned. Since I live out of state, I was on the phone with Karin throughout the day. Her first call to me told me that they thought she was dead. The reports that came back to the Fire dept. and EMTs were that there were no survivors left in the building. Krista as well at their brother, Bill Jr were all at the fire house waiting for any news about their mother. Barbara hid under her desk as the shooter entered into the school office. She saw his feet pass by her desk. When he entered the nurse's room and saw no one, he walked out. That is when Barbara ran into the nurses room. They both hid under a desk while Barbara called 911. When they felt it was safe, they moved to a closet. That is where they hid for 4 hours. When the state police said every nook and cranny was searched, they lied. My sister told me they heard the voices, sirens, helicopters but NO ONE opened the door to the closet where they hid. Only after the 4 hours of hiding, she and the nurse cracked open the closet door to listen and decided that they could exit the closet. Barbara is a full time employee at the Sandy Hook School and has been for many, many years. She was NOT a temporary or substitute employee as someone else suggested. Barbara was hounded by the press after the shooting. They camped out on her lawn and wanted interviews. She is a private person and had just gone through a great ordeal and did not want any kind of exposure. After a year, she is still dealing with a lot but each day it gets a little bit easier. Quoting: jbc549 41597493 bump |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51018523 Australia 12/06/2013 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karin Halstead is a volunteer firefighter and a first responder and yet the interview with her, her father, and two other firefighters didn't suggest terrible anxiety at having her mother unaccounted for in excess of three hours. I think she was unconcerned because she always believed a drill was in progress and didn't realize that the reason no EMTs, firefighters, and photographers were allowed inside the school was that the drill had turned "live" and there were authentic casualties - an unforgiveable development that threw the State Police into panic as they communicated with federal officials to decide what to do to "cover" the state's liability. Quoting: Phylax I partly agree with this as I have been doing speech reversals, the new 911 calls are a work in progress but it is helping me clarify what I believe is the development you talk of. I have clearly heard the statement by one of the officers say"why did I wait, he has a hostage' where as before I only heard the first bit of that statement. I have been replying on this forum for months and what has repeatedly come out from what I hear is that a little girl was raped and I hear also she died on the new recordings but also what I have put together from earlier ones. I think it was a hoax with some children abused and killed although not by gun although this I cannot state as confidently as the little girl whom keeps coming up with regularity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35624251 United States 12/07/2013 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A few questions for the brother of Halstead: Did you find it strange that your niece and/or nephew -- two of the town's "first responders" -- apparently did not do much "responding" that day and were instead (in your own words) waiting around at the firehouse and had plenty of time to contact you a number of times to pass along info on their mother? Also, as a concerned sibling did you ask them WHY or HOW they initially perceived/believed that their mother was dead and HOW that belief/status changed after a time (especially considering the close family connection to top emergency officials for Newtown)? And, have you asked your sister what type of interaction/response came from the police once they saw her and the nurse emerge from the closet that day? |
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