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Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint

 
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considering that their philosophy is satanic in origin, it might not make you a satanist if you like it, but it will if you follow it
 Quoting: Salt


O. So just to clarify 'the logos' is Satan?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


in reference to what?

in scripture it is Jesus
 Quoting: Salt


Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
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I saw a picture of my favorite drummer with this on one of his drum heads:

URIEL
R___E
I___I
E___R
LEIRU

And the rest of the spaces in the cube were filled in with some names that I would recognize, but cannot remember right now. I found it to be highly intriguing.

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O. So just to clarify 'the logos' is Satan?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


in reference to what?

in scripture it is Jesus
 Quoting: Salt


Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
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ooh awesome post Salt, I am in the middle of laundry but as soon as I get the chance I am going to sit down and read this!! Thanks :-)
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hf
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in reference to what?

in scripture it is Jesus
 Quoting: Salt


Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
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Thx Salt! I figured that satanic hollywood was might be up to something with this movie.

I'm not quite sure of the connections yet, but you figure that the characters and paradigms of a project like this are more occult bullshit.

I enjoy your threads, Salt.

Along with Lisa*Lisa, Goofy for God, and TXGal4Truth, you're one of my favorite posters on this strange board.
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Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
 Quoting: Salt


[link to www.osogd.org]
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O. So just to clarify 'the logos' is Satan?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


in reference to what?

in scripture it is Jesus
 Quoting: Salt


Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Kudos on your knowledge of Gnosticism OP. I suspect that the Judaizers Pauls speaks of in his letters formed to beginnings of what we call "Gnosticism". The author of the Book of Hebrews also refers to this cult.

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Thx Salt! I figured that satanic hollywood was might be up to something with this movie.

I'm not quite sure of the connections yet, but you figure that the characters and paradigms of a project like this are more occult bullshit.

I enjoy your threads, Salt.

Along with Lisa*Lisa, Goofy for God, and TXGal4Truth, you're one of my favorite posters on this strange board.
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thanks hf

the point of the thread is this

the illuminati/luciferian (hollywood covens) are targeting children for sympathy for the devil by portraying him in the way that they see him.

truth mixed with lies mixed with truth
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2nd attempt to hf ya OP! Nice work
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That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember.
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that alien's name is LAM
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That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember.
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that alien's name is LAM
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wrong

LAM is his type or species

the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass
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I like your post Salt!

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before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.

the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


'satan' is a mythological metaphor created by man. A thought-form that only exists to those who consciously choose to subscribe to this thought form. 'satan' is not a universal truth. One must investigate and learn why these 'thought-forms' were created and utilized to impart messages on the masses:

'satan' is a mythological creation of man, a metaphor for the attributes/characteristics associated with the carnal mind of the physical flesh. Look into the nature of mythology, look into the meaning behind the term 'anthropomorphism' and try and perceive from a psychological standpoint why such a practice was utilized to spread messages to the masses at a time when many were not able to read & write. There was a different level of collective awareness and understanding back then. They did not have fancy psychological terms and the access to the information and the knowledge that we possess today. So they would take human qualities & characteristics and assign them to mythological characters and utilize those representations as a means for encouraging or discouraging certain types of behavior in individuals. Take all the bad shit about human behavior and attribute to a scary figure known as 'satan' and then discourage the masses from acting like this figure. Makes sense doesn't it?

'satan' is not a unique character. Look at all the 'death deities' that have been created by various cultures at different times in human history and stated to represent the Lord/King/God of the 'underworld'

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A thought-form can only exist as long as individuals consciously choose to feed energy to it. That is why it always puzzles me to see those who profess to stand with 'God' always speaking about 'satan' and trying to identify 'satan' in things that they perceive. They are unknowingly fueling the very thought-form they claim to stand against. Maybe they don't realize it.

peace
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Thread: IF the richest, most powerful people in the world worship Satan..

It is very important to contemplate this not from a theological perspective, but from a psychological and sociological perspective.

The issue many will have with contemplating this is that they have fused their belief in 'God' with their belief in 'satan'. So for them to consider that 'satan' is not a literal entity, they subconsciously feel that it also threatens their belief in 'God'. 'Satan' does not need to exist! But a higher power that is responsible for our creation does need to exist! One might think that many would be relieved to learn that 'satan' is a mythological figure, but some would prefer to believe that an omniscient and omnipotent Creator created an entity designed to torment them and fool them into despair.

Evil (negative energy) exists only in those who use their god-given free will and make the conscious decision to embrace it! Individuals do not require some invisible mythological entity to fool or trick them into this path - they choose it for themselves. We must reinforce personal responsibility and accountability for our actions and stop deflecting the blame to metaphorical creations of man. 'God'/Creator/Higher Power can exist without the character known as 'satan'.

peace

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Salt, not to go off from your topic, but since you're here now..

what do you think of the whole 'new pope' thing? The conclave of cardinals is going to start their election process this tuesday. will the next pope be the false prophet?
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Kudos on your knowledge of Gnosticism OP. I suspect that the Judaizers Pauls speaks of in his letters formed to beginnings of what we call "Gnosticism". The author of the Book of Hebrews also refers to this cult.

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Also, there are elements of the Kabbalah embedded within Gnosticism. You can also see elements of Kabbalah in the Talmud and Midrashim. The thread is there throughout history, one just needs to connect the dots. Gnosticism eventually morphed into Rosicruceanism then into modern day Free Masonry.

Fascinating, but scary history they don't teach in school.

damned

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That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember.
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that alien's name is LAM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16488245


wrong

LAM is his type or species

the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass
 Quoting: Salt


but did you know that Crowley wrote Jephthah in the Cecil hotel in London?
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Salt, not to go off from your topic, but since you're here now..

what do you think of the whole 'new pope' thing? The conclave of cardinals is going to start their election process this tuesday. will the next pope be the false prophet?
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well, that remains to be seen.
we will find out soon.
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Kudos on your knowledge of Gnosticism OP. I suspect that the Judaizers Pauls speaks of in his letters formed to beginnings of what we call "Gnosticism". The author of the Book of Hebrews also refers to this cult.

thumbs
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Also, there are elements of the Kabbalah embedded within Gnosticism. You can also see elements of Kabbalah in the Talmud and Midrashim. The thread is there throughout history, one just needs to connect the dots. Gnosticism eventually morphed into Rosicruceanism then into modern day Free Masonry.

Fascinating, but scary history they don't teach in school.

damned

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yes, right on target
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That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember.
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that alien's name is LAM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16488245


wrong

LAM is his type or species

the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass
 Quoting: Salt


but did you know that Crowley wrote Jephthah in the Cecil hotel in London?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16488245


Thread: Elisa Lam and Jephtha's daughter Seila
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That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember.
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that alien's name is LAM
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wrong

LAM is his type or species

the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass
 Quoting: Salt


Lol I was waiting for someone to say it's LAM :-)
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that alien's name is LAM
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wrong

LAM is his type or species

the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass
 Quoting: Salt


but did you know that Crowley wrote Jephthah in the Cecil hotel in London?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16488245


Thread: Elisa Lam and Jephtha's daughter Seila
 Quoting: Salt


Im flattered.
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That Aiwaz drawing was drawn by Aleister Crowley, was it not? It was eithed him or someone equal in reputation. Cant remember.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773685


that alien's name is LAM
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16488245


wrong

LAM is his type or species

the LAM who spoke to crowley is Aiwass
 Quoting: Salt


Lol I was waiting for someone to say it's LAM :-)
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Summary:
1) "Grey Aliens" are Lams, and were first contacted via magickal
ritual by Alistair Crowley. Further magickal ritual along similar
lines created a situation where direct access for these entities to
the earth-world was established. Certain groups and people believe
this to be beneficiary to humanity, and continue to draw these beings
into the earth-world through magickal ritual via the original access
point.
2) Satanists are involved in Crowleyain Lam invocations and recommend
Ray's books for their extensive content on the habits and
idiosyncrasies of the "greys" (Lams).

Conclusion:
It is now clear why Ray Fowler's books were recommended reading. This
part of the puzzle, and the primary reason I wrote the report, has
been solved to my satisfaction.
The secondary question raised by investigating the first (do "aliens"
or "lams" actually exist) is a far different matter. People's actions
are objective, but the motivations are based on the subjectivity of
beliefs. What one person believes to be "reality" may not be in the
least "real" to another.
At a certain level - and for the purposes of this report - it does not
really matter if these beings and powers are objectively "real" or
not. What is significant and of pertinence here is that many members
of the occult community (O.T.O./Crowleyian) do indeed believe these
beings and powers to be "real" and govern themselves accordingly. They
spend considerable time attempting communication and invocation of
them. They believe it is for the benefit of us all, although if this
were generally known, I would think it would be a point of some
considerable debate.

Addendum

Lam Lore:
According to O.T.O.
chief Kenneth Grant:
Lam is known to be a link between the star systems of Sirius and
Andromeda.
Lam is the gateway to the Void. Its number, 71, is that of "NoThing",
an apparition.
Lam, as a Great Old One, whose archetype is recognizable in accounts
of UFO occupants.
Lam has been invoked to fulfill the work set afoot by Aiwass; as a
reflex of Aiwass.
Lam as the transmitter to AL of the vibrations of LA via MA, the key
to the Aeon of Maat.
Lam is the occult energy beaming the vibrations of Maat and may
proceed from that future aeon...

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Ok now I'm confused. The principles of theosophy talk about the logos as the life giver as it were (?). Bear with me as it was years ago I read them. Who does the logos represent and which figure in the Theosophical teachings is the satanic element?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
 Quoting: Salt


Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light?
Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question

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before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
 Quoting: Salt


Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light?
Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


a tree is known by its fruit
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Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
 Quoting: Salt


Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light?
Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


a tree is known by its fruit
 Quoting: Salt


That's far more revealing than you realise. Thank you
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