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Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint

 
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Did you see the Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura episode about the Ozarks?
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Did you see the Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura episode about the Ozarks?
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i think i caught a few minutes of it
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Did you see the Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura episode about the Ozarks?
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i think i caught a few minutes of it
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Go to youtube and watch it......there is a reference in there that most people missed.

hf
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Did you see the Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura episode about the Ozarks?
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i think i caught a few minutes of it
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Go to youtube and watch it......there is a reference in there that most people missed.

hf
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ok, going now
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before i explain keep in mind that satan (formerly known as lucifer) is a counterfeiter of Christ. he mocks and counterfeits Christ on many levels and for a variety of reasons.


the Logos is the Word of God

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

The phrase "the Word" (a translation of the Greek word "Logos") is widely interpreted as referring to Jesus, as indicated in other verses later in the same chapter.

the logos that HPB terms is the counterfeit Christ, satan, who provides their gnosis of the satan agenda
 Quoting: Salt


Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
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its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
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Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light?
Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


"There is no dissociation between the One Universal Church, the sacred inner Lodge of all true Masons, and the innermost circles of the esoteric societies."
Alice Bailey - The Externalization of the Hierarchy - Section IV - Stages in the Externalization
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Lovely thanks :-) that makes sense. Salt do you know anything about Dion Fortune and I think it was the Golden Dawn gang? Don't want to go off topic so no worries if you dont want to talk about it.
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its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
 Quoting: Salt


Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light?
Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


"There is no dissociation between the One Universal Church, the sacred inner Lodge of all true Masons, and the innermost circles of the esoteric societies."
Alice Bailey - The Externalization of the Hierarchy - Section IV - Stages in the Externalization
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true. even the vatican knows this and has been on board for centuries
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its not really off topic because at the core of it all is the luciferian cult

Golden Dawn is a secret order of luciferian/masonic ancient mystery schools.

just like religous groups have many denominations but one basic core structure, so do the luciferians/satanists
 Quoting: Salt


Ok so do you genuinely believe the 'secret' societies pursue a luciferian agenda? Or is there a media (including these types of forums) agenda to present them in this light?
Edit to add it's not directed at anyone/thing just a question
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


"There is no dissociation between the One Universal Church, the sacred inner Lodge of all true Masons, and the innermost circles of the esoteric societies."
Alice Bailey - The Externalization of the Hierarchy - Section IV - Stages in the Externalization
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true. even the vatican knows this and has been on board for centuries
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that is what she meant by "universal church"

I advise all those who go to any church to be on the lookout for that buzz phrase. Even protestant and nondenoms. There are no nonCatholic churches anymore. The counter reformation was a total success.
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more luciferian, HPB, Crowley connections to precious gems


...and Oz, the witch and the yellow brick road


keep in mind:
these people project their beliefs from their standpoint

sympathy for the devil...


Thread: Illuminati Puppets and the Sky Diamonds

Thread: Is this a newly acquired Illuminati MKUltra handler? This is who's singing to your kids...
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Ok well it seems like whoever one gets involved with is part of the luciferian agenda. Salt can you tell us what to do if we wish to combat this agenda, ie. who to contact, what to do and indeed who are the good guys in the big game?
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Ok well it seems like whoever one gets involved with is part of the luciferian agenda. Salt can you tell us what to do if we wish to combat this agenda, ie. who to contact, what to do and indeed who are the good guys in the big game?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
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...and Oz, the witch and the yellow brick road


keep in mind:
these people project their beliefs from their standpoint

sympathy for the devil...


Thread: Illuminati Puppets and the Sky Diamonds

Thread: Is this a newly acquired Illuminati MKUltra handler? This is who's singing to your kids...
 Quoting: Salt


It is simple.

Satan rules this world because man gave dominion to him in the fall.

Jesus Christ the Son of God pay the penalty for sin once and for all.

Accept the free gift that Jesus offers to all. Accept it and be free of the penalty of sin.

And soon the reign of Lucifer will be at its end.
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The wizard of Oz is actually based on an old book. This new movie is just a bastardized version of the old one.
You're not going to become a mind-controlled assassin for the CIA if you watch it, and Lucifer is just a literary character from the bronze age.

Your medication: Take it.
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Ok well it seems like whoever one gets involved with is part of the luciferian agenda. Salt can you tell us what to do if we wish to combat this agenda, ie. who to contact, what to do and indeed who are the good guys in the big game?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
 Quoting: Salt


And how do you achieve that?
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The Grimm brothers, who were cabalistic jews, gathered the folk occult stories together.
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The Brothers Grimm (German: Brüder Grimm or Die Gebrüder Grimm), Jacob (1785–1863) and Wilhelm Grimm (1786–1859), were German academics, linguists, cultural researchers, and authors who together COLLECTED FOLKLORE.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

IT IS AMAZING THAT YOU SEE JEWS BEHIND EVERYTHING.

I'm surprised that you didn't use "The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him."

IF YOU WILL READ IT BETTER YOU FIND THAT IT IS
"COLLECTED FOLKLORE" by Grimm Brothers.

People told them and they were writing it down.
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Ok well it seems like whoever one gets involved with is part of the luciferian agenda. Salt can you tell us what to do if we wish to combat this agenda, ie. who to contact, what to do and indeed who are the good guys in the big game?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
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And how do you achieve that?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


is this a serious question?
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yay! one stars!
all the God haters love to one star my threads
that's how I know you are reading my stuff

thanks
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You are blessed every time you are persecuted for speaking in his name our lord and savior, Jesus the Christ, amen.

Rejoice sister, rejoice!!
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yay! one stars!
all the God haters love to one star my threads
that's how I know you are reading my stuff

thanks
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You are blessed every time you are persecuted for speaking in his name our lord and savior, Jesus the Christ, amen.

Rejoice sister, rejoice!!
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amen to that
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Go to the 21 minute mark and listen for about a minute.
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I advise all those who go to any church to be on the lookout for that buzz phrase. Even protestant and nondenoms. There are no nonCatholic churches anymore. The counter reformation was a total success.
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A litmus test of sorts for me is whether a church points people away from itself to towards Christ or whether it points people inward towards itself and away from Christ.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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The wizard of Oz is actually based on an old book. This new movie is just a bastardized version of the old one.
You're not going to become a mind-controlled assassin for the CIA if you watch it, and Lucifer is just a literary character from the bronze age.

Your medication: Take it.
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TROLL ALERT !
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Ok well it seems like whoever one gets involved with is part of the luciferian agenda. Salt can you tell us what to do if we wish to combat this agenda, ie. who to contact, what to do and indeed who are the good guys in the big game?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
 Quoting: Salt


And how do you achieve that?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt


Ok well it seems like whoever one gets involved with is part of the luciferian agenda. Salt can you tell us what to do if we wish to combat this agenda, ie. who to contact, what to do and indeed who are the good guys in the big game?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
 Quoting: Salt


And how do you achieve that?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt

Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
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"Dear Diary,
Why does everybody hate me? Why do they always blame me when something goes wrong? I might as well eat worms...
Yours Truly, Lucifer, AKA Satan, AKA The Devil."
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first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
 Quoting: Salt


And how do you achieve that?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt


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first, get reconciled to God thru His son Jesus the Christ

then remove yourself from this world
 Quoting: Salt


And how do you achieve that?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt

Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


the key to reconciliation is to recognize the way to Him, believe it, and ask.

to remove yourself from the world, you remove your mind/heart/spirit from the "things" of this world and keep them on the world from which you originally came

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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Some of this is going to be rambling so I apologize in advance.

I have very mixed emotions about threads(information) like this. For one, I've felt stigmatized many times in my life for enjoying a movie that I personally was innocently enjoying. From my perspective I tend to look for the good in all things. Even these sorts of things. I bet that if you looked for evil in any one thing..you could find it. I know people that do this with the bible continually. Good will always outweigh the bad, and that's what I look for in a movie to make me enjoy it, even if it has negative connotations such as witchcraft or other symbolism that could be portrayed as evil.

I certainly don't doubt that there are hidden messages of some movie producers, but how much of it is just creative freedom with no personal agenda? I know a guy that believes a lot of the symbols are positive meanings that others would find demonic in nature.

If these symbols are implanted into us from the beginning of our lives, it's possible to unconsciously reference them without ever meaning to reference their negative(to some) meanings. How many young teens do we see mimicking the rockawear signs with their hands at a concert? Some might know what it could potentially mean, but many are just following the crowd and that doesn't make it right but perhaps in their hearts they are innocent.

There is no black and white indefinitely, sometimes there is a gray area. We should be mindful of innocent people that are just trapped in the ebb and flow of symbolism. I was stigmatized many times in my life for things I was innocently doing. Holding my friends hand while walking home from school was viewed as homosexuality(even as a child), playing a video game made me a witch, listening to certain music made me demonic. Those are the types of things that I personally feel that God is against, it's ok to be mindful of the ways of the world, but not to live in it. It's also important not to point out to people and judge them based on your own beliefs when it could be that they are innocently stuck in the ways of the world. Judge not. As a sinner, nothing turned me more away from God than people pointing at me with a condescending demeanor. What brought me closer to God was a lady that actually sat and talked with me. She hugged me and told me she loved me, and that she saw the fingerprints of God all over me, even when I was at my worst moment.

So, should we call out the evil in everything? As I began to learn the many possible meanings of certain symbols my eyes became open and I saw. (Let he who has ears hear). Yet, I can't condemn those that are innocent purely because I see what they do not.
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Those pictures are LAM ..

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Those pictures are LAM ..

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Who is Lam?:
It is interesting to note that since Crowley's time, in occult terms
at least, Lam is considered a class of entity rather than an
individual being. When one invokes Lam, they are invoking an entity of
that type, rather than a specific being. For occultists operating
along O.T.O. lines, the idea is to invoke these Lam entities through
Magickal Portals (intentionally created rents in time and space) into
physical manifestation on planet earth. Why this is desirable is not
always so clearly stated. (It often appears that within Crowleyian
circles the working rule is often: "If Crowley did it, I want to do
it, too.")
Michael Bertiaux, a Lam contactee and invoker of note, viewed Lam as
the "subterranean burgeoning of Lucifer-Gnosis." Considering that
Gnosis means an intuitive knowing, this would mean that knowing Lam is
to know a welling-up from the unconscious of an inner knowing of
Lucifer. (The Occult being the occult, it is important to bear in mind
that occultists at least may not necessarily see Lucifer as the devil,
but rather as a "light bringer" who fell to earth.)
Bertiaux goes on to say that Lam is the natural mode of human
evolution in the present Aeon - indicating that to him and his
followers this Lucifer-Gnosis is the appropriate path of human
spiritual growth at this time.
Crowley termed the intentional cultivation of spiritual growth the
"Great Work." And the Great work for Crowley, "...involved precisely
the establishment of contact with non-human intelligences."
Intelligences such as Lam. Using the language of Crowley's time,
certain non-human intelligences such as Lam were what we today would
term "extraterrestrial."

A Portal Opened:
It is generally agreed within occult circles that Crowley
intentionally opened a portal of entry via magick ritual in the
Amalantrah Workings which allowed the likes of Lam and other similar
entities a passageway onto the earth-world. The rift "in-between the
spaces of the stars," created by the Amalantrah Working, created a
gateway through which Lam and other extra-cosmic influences could
enter the known universe, and most particularly, our earth-world.
According to occultists involved in such things, the Portal has since
widened.

The Babylon Working:
According to occult lore, the Portal was further enlarged by a Jet
Propulsion Laboratory founder and rocket fuel scientist named Jack
Parsons, and Scientology and Dianetics founder L. Ron Hubbard in 1946,
facilitating - so it is said - a monumental paradigm shift in human
consciousness. This Magickal working was called the Babylon Working,
and like the Amalantrah Working on which its ritual was patterned, it
was based on ceremonial sex magick.
Together they "endeavoured to ... incarnate a physical aspect of
Babylon, the Scarlet Woman of the Book of Revelations (17:3-6). They
believed that Babylon was the herald of the new Age of Horus, and that
Revelations was the understandably negative interpretation by those of
the dying Age of Osiris."
The gist of it was that Parsons desired to take the spirit of Babylon,
the "Whore of Babylon," and invest it in a human being. The idea was
to create a child in the spiritual world, and then call down the
spiritual baby and direct it into a human womb. When born, this child
would incarnate the forces of Babylon, which they considered to be a
good thing.
(Although Crowley had previously written the somewhat hilarious book
Moonchild - concerning a similar experiment - he wrote in a letter:
"Apparently Parsons and Hubbard or somebody is producing a moonchild.
I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts.")
In any event, the rites were duly performed as written from January
4th to 15th of that year. It is not known if a spiritual child was
enwombed from them. What is known is that the Magickal Portal first
created by Crowley, and which originally let Lam into the earth-world,
was reestablished with considerable intensity by Parsons and Hubbard.
From the diaries of the participants, it is also clear that they were
not as adept as Crowley in the closings of portals. What they seemed
to have accomplished was the drastic enlargement and ripping of an
existing Magickal Portal and the subsequent non-closure of it. Perhaps
the rip they created was not possible to close. In any event, the
modern UFO era began exactly a year and a half later on June 24th,
1947, with Kenneth Arnold's sighting over the Cascade Mountains in
Washington State.

Grey Aliens:
The "grey aliens," slight-bodied, big-headed, large-dark-eyed manikin
creatures are primarily an American phenomena. And, it is interesting
to note that all the Lam workings were done in America.
Reports of these UFO-associated entities became prevalent in the
1980's and made the big time with Whitley Strieber's book Communion.
The "greys" appear eerily similar to Lam, with the exception of Lam
not having the large insectoid wraparound eyes reported of the
"greys." However, there are variations of these small manikins that
very much resemble a Lam. See the second of the two pictures at the
top of this page. This entity is a composite of a variation commonly
seen in the 1980's. Rather than grey, its skin tone is clay-white and
the facial features are different. In fact, the resemblance to the Lam
pictured by Crowley is virtually exact.
Also and perhaps most significantly, Kenneth Grant, head of the
current O.T.O., states that: "Lam is a Great Old One whose archetype
is recognizable in accounts of UFO occupants." It would seem from this
official Typhonian statement that the current invokers of Lam are
absolutely clear that Lam and the grey-aliens are one.

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And how do you achieve that?
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is this a serious question?
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And how do you achieve that?
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt

Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


the key to reconciliation is to recognize the way to Him, believe it, and ask.

to remove yourself from the world, you remove your mind/heart/spirit from the "things" of this world and keep them on the world from which you originally came

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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Well I would love to remove myself from everything like that and indeed spend all my time sitting on my arse reconciling myself with God but there are a few problems. First I have to work to feed myself and secondly and most importantly I had my hair cut so I can't pull off the hippy sitting under the tree look. Nice idea though.

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Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint
I saw it yesterday.

The only think people need to worry about is the bad acting. That's what scared me the most.
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Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint
I've been waiting for a post on this and was familiar with Baums occult links with the theosophical society and the whole mind control thing, I haven't watched it yet and it looks a bit pants but I have noticed James Franco is playing oz and I've heard theories about him and mk ultra and him having a powerful father , I suppose that doesn't make someone a mind controlled drone but U never know,he is rather peculiar.

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