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Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint

 
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is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt


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is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt

Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


the key to reconciliation is to recognize the way to Him, believe it, and ask.

to remove yourself from the world, you remove your mind/heart/spirit from the "things" of this world and keep them on the world from which you originally came

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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Well I would love to remove myself from everything like that and indeed spend all my time sitting on my arse reconciling myself with God but there are a few problems. First I have to work to feed myself and secondly and most importantly I had my hair cut so I can't pull off the hippy sitting under the tree look. Nice idea though.
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you dont get it, and thats ok

nobody said to sit on your ass and do nothing.
nobody said to sit under a tree and stop moving or working or doing.

what i said was to remove yourself from the "things" of the world.

this is a language you can't hear.

you are being rather rude, however.

i will let that slide.
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is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt


...


is this a serious question?
 Quoting: Salt

Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


the key to reconciliation is to recognize the way to Him, believe it, and ask.

to remove yourself from the world, you remove your mind/heart/spirit from the "things" of this world and keep them on the world from which you originally came

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 Quoting: Salt


Well I would love to remove myself from everything like that and indeed spend all my time sitting on my arse reconciling myself with God but there are a few problems. First I have to work to feed myself and secondly and most importantly I had my hair cut so I can't pull off the hippy sitting under the tree look. Nice idea though.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


But it worked for Jesus, and he didn't spend all his time sitting on anything.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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fragile broken porcelain doll from Oz, whom Oz glues back together

:ozdoll:

character from I Pet Goat II

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Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


the key to reconciliation is to recognize the way to Him, believe it, and ask.

to remove yourself from the world, you remove your mind/heart/spirit from the "things" of this world and keep them on the world from which you originally came

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 Quoting: Salt


Well I would love to remove myself from everything like that and indeed spend all my time sitting on my arse reconciling myself with God but there are a few problems. First I have to work to feed myself and secondly and most importantly I had my hair cut so I can't pull off the hippy sitting under the tree look. Nice idea though.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


But it worked for Jesus, and he didn't spend all his time sitting on anything.
 Quoting: Life and Love


amen
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"Oz, the "snake oil" salesman, the "trickster", the magician," the con man, comes to Oz and is declared king and given a room full of gold...if he kills the wicked witch."
Interesting but sounds more like the wizard of Ob amma
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 Quoting: Salt



Those pictures are LAM ..

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Who is Lam?:
It is interesting to note that since Crowley's time, in occult terms
at least, Lam is considered a class of entity rather than an
individual being. When one invokes Lam, they are invoking an entity of
that type, rather than a specific being. For occultists operating
along O.T.O. lines, the idea is to invoke these Lam entities through
Magickal Portals (intentionally created rents in time and space) into
physical manifestation on planet earth. Why this is desirable is not
always so clearly stated. (It often appears that within Crowleyian
circles the working rule is often: "If Crowley did it, I want to do
it, too.")
Michael Bertiaux, a Lam contactee and invoker of note, viewed Lam as
the "subterranean burgeoning of Lucifer-Gnosis." Considering that
Gnosis means an intuitive knowing, this would mean that knowing Lam is
to know a welling-up from the unconscious of an inner knowing of
Lucifer. (The Occult being the occult, it is important to bear in mind
that occultists at least may not necessarily see Lucifer as the devil,
but rather as a "light bringer" who fell to earth.)
Bertiaux goes on to say that Lam is the natural mode of human
evolution in the present Aeon - indicating that to him and his
followers this Lucifer-Gnosis is the appropriate path of human
spiritual growth at this time.
Crowley termed the intentional cultivation of spiritual growth the
"Great Work." And the Great work for Crowley, "...involved precisely
the establishment of contact with non-human intelligences."
Intelligences such as Lam. Using the language of Crowley's time,
certain non-human intelligences such as Lam were what we today would
term "extraterrestrial."

A Portal Opened:
It is generally agreed within occult circles that Crowley
intentionally opened a portal of entry via magick ritual in the
Amalantrah Workings which allowed the likes of Lam and other similar
entities a passageway onto the earth-world. The rift "in-between the
spaces of the stars," created by the Amalantrah Working, created a
gateway through which Lam and other extra-cosmic influences could
enter the known universe, and most particularly, our earth-world.
According to occultists involved in such things, the Portal has since
widened.

The Babylon Working:
According to occult lore, the Portal was further enlarged by a Jet
Propulsion Laboratory founder and rocket fuel scientist named Jack
Parsons, and Scientology and Dianetics founder L. Ron Hubbard in 1946,
facilitating - so it is said - a monumental paradigm shift in human
consciousness. This Magickal working was called the Babylon Working,
and like the Amalantrah Working on which its ritual was patterned, it
was based on ceremonial sex magick.
Together they "endeavoured to ... incarnate a physical aspect of
Babylon, the Scarlet Woman of the Book of Revelations (17:3-6). They
believed that Babylon was the herald of the new Age of Horus, and that
Revelations was the understandably negative interpretation by those of
the dying Age of Osiris."
The gist of it was that Parsons desired to take the spirit of Babylon,
the "Whore of Babylon," and invest it in a human being. The idea was
to create a child in the spiritual world, and then call down the
spiritual baby and direct it into a human womb. When born, this child
would incarnate the forces of Babylon, which they considered to be a
good thing.
(Although Crowley had previously written the somewhat hilarious book
Moonchild - concerning a similar experiment - he wrote in a letter:
"Apparently Parsons and Hubbard or somebody is producing a moonchild.
I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these louts.")
In any event, the rites were duly performed as written from January
4th to 15th of that year. It is not known if a spiritual child was
enwombed from them. What is known is that the Magickal Portal first
created by Crowley, and which originally let Lam into the earth-world,
was reestablished with considerable intensity by Parsons and Hubbard.
From the diaries of the participants, it is also clear that they were
not as adept as Crowley in the closings of portals. What they seemed
to have accomplished was the drastic enlargement and ripping of an
existing Magickal Portal and the subsequent non-closure of it. Perhaps
the rip they created was not possible to close. In any event, the
modern UFO era began exactly a year and a half later on June 24th,
1947, with Kenneth Arnold's sighting over the Cascade Mountains in
Washington State.

Grey Aliens:
The "grey aliens," slight-bodied, big-headed, large-dark-eyed manikin
creatures are primarily an American phenomena. And, it is interesting
to note that all the Lam workings were done in America.
Reports of these UFO-associated entities became prevalent in the
1980's and made the big time with Whitley Strieber's book Communion.
The "greys" appear eerily similar to Lam, with the exception of Lam
not having the large insectoid wraparound eyes reported of the
"greys." However, there are variations of these small manikins that
very much resemble a Lam. See the second of the two pictures at the
top of this page. This entity is a composite of a variation commonly
seen in the 1980's. Rather than grey, its skin tone is clay-white and
the facial features are different. In fact, the resemblance to the Lam
pictured by Crowley is virtually exact.
Also and perhaps most significantly, Kenneth Grant, head of the
current O.T.O., states that: "Lam is a Great Old One whose archetype
is recognizable in accounts of UFO occupants." It would seem from this
official Typhonian statement that the current invokers of Lam are
absolutely clear that Lam and the grey-aliens are one.

[link to groups.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Salt



LAM was also present at the Philadelphia Experiment. Gov brough him (Crowly) in not long after. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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LAM is not a name of an individual

why is this not being received?

LAM is a species, like "human" or "canine"
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Go to the 21 minute mark and listen for about a minute.
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hmmm...interesting
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"Lucifer" was the most beautiful angel in Heaven; he went bad; Father threw "Lucifier" out of Heaven with his followers.

Once he was on Earth, then Father gave Lucifer a new name, the most hated name of Earth: the name was "Satan".

There is no more "Lucifer"; heis Satan, the father of the lie, according to Jesus in John 8:44, as you may see where, on one occasion, Jesus was talking to the "Jews".
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"Lucifer" was the most beautiful angel in Heaven; he went bad; Father threw "Lucifier" out of Heaven with his followers.

Once he was on Earth, then Father gave Lucifer a new name, the most hated name of Earth: the name was "Satan".

There is no more "Lucifer"; heis Satan, the father of the lie, according to Jesus in John 8:44, as you may see where, on one occasion, Jesus was talking to the "Jews".
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agree

but the luciferians do not look at it that way
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"Lucifer" was the most beautiful angel in Heaven; he went bad; Father threw "Lucifier" out of Heaven with his followers.

Once he was on Earth, then Father gave Lucifer a new name, the most hated name of Earth: the name was "Satan".

There is no more "Lucifer"; heis Satan, the father of the lie, according to Jesus in John 8:44, as you may see where, on one occasion, Jesus was talking to the "Jews".
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I don't ever remember reading the bolded part.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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The King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is the reincarnation of the fallen Adam, and not Satan.

Here's why:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god" and verse 13 says "You were in Eden, the garden of God".

Now who was the man that was in Eden other than Adam?

Adam was created perfect just like verse 15 says:
Ezekiel 28:15 "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created".

In contrast Satan was created a murderer and liar from the beginning:

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
 Quoting: John 8


Adam was an "anointed" cherub (meaning he was a Messiah) among the angels whom God also covered in human flesh, making him distinct among the angels:

Ezekiel 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God;"

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The King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is the reincarnation of the fallen Adam, and not Satan.

Here's why:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god" and verse 13 says "You were in Eden, the garden of God".

Now who was the man that was in Eden other than Adam?

Adam was created perfect just like verse 15 says:
Ezekiel 28:15 "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created".

In contrast Satan was created a murderer and liar from the beginning:

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
 Quoting: John 8


Adam was an "anointed" cherub (meaning he was a Messiah) among the angels whom God covered in human flesh:

Ezekiel 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God;"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in eden also
there are no reincarnated men
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Let's all hope the naysayers daughters get to hollywood and get their oz programming in with Terry Richardson. The ones that refuse to see the truth are the ones that deserve to have brunt of it on their families. Bad things can actually do good in shutting their mouths and proud hearts.
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The King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is the reincarnation of the fallen Adam, and not Satan.

Here's why:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god" and verse 13 says "You were in Eden, the garden of God".

Now who was the man that was in Eden other than Adam?

Adam was created perfect just like verse 15 says:
Ezekiel 28:15 "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created".

In contrast Satan was created a murderer and liar from the beginning:

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
 Quoting: John 8


Adam was an "anointed" cherub (meaning he was a Messiah) among the angels whom God covered in human flesh:

Ezekiel 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God;"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in eden also
there are no reincarnated men
 Quoting: Salt


If there are no reincarnated men then why did God say to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:13 that "You were in Eden, the garden of God"?

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 12 “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
 Quoting: Ezekiel 28


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"Lucifer" was the most beautiful angel in Heaven; he went bad; Father threw "Lucifier" out of Heaven with his followers.

Once he was on Earth, then Father gave Lucifer a new name, the most hated name of Earth: the name was "Satan".

There is no more "Lucifer"; heis Satan, the father of the lie, according to Jesus in John 8:44, as you may see where, on one occasion, Jesus was talking to the "Jews".
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Cool story bro... But again, a story is just that, a story.
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The OP thinks "saving yourself" is the sin of Satan, but I think the opposite is true. Satan wants you to need someone to save you.
Satan does not want you to know yourself. hearts

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Adam was an anointed cherub whom God covered in human flesh and was given the power of procreation. This is why he is said to be made in the image of God, since he can procreate.

Angels in their spirit bodies are not able to do this, which is why Adam was superior among the angels although his human flesh is weaker than the spirit bodies of the angels.
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Thx Salt! I figured that satanic hollywood was might be up to something with this movie.

I'm not quite sure of the connections yet, but you figure that the characters and paradigms of a project like this are more occult bullshit.

I enjoy your threads, Salt.

Along with Lisa*Lisa, Goofy for God, and TXGal4Truth, you're one of my favorite posters on this strange board.
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thanks hf

the point of the thread is this

the illuminati/luciferian (hollywood covens) are targeting children for sympathy for the devil by portraying him in the way that they see him.

truth mixed with lies mixed with truth
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Not sure I want to watch it.. But your background information will play on my mind if I did.. Thanks for starting the thread.. So much stuff I did not know..

By coincidence I read this yesterday which you might find interesting..

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Watching Sam Raimi’s new movie while listening to Pink Floyd.
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Another great post Salt.

Did you catch the last line in the second trailer:

“Are you the man we’ve been waiting for?”

Mason’s and the Illuminate are waiting for the anti- Christ.
I think he’ll show up pretty soon now.

Also – the pillars that are so important to Masons - refer to the two pillars of Solomon’s Temple – one of which was made of pure Emerald.
Solomon conjured up and employed (binded) Demons to build his Temple.

A little off topic but perhaps would have a thought about this, Salt.

How could anything holy (such as the Holy of Holies) be in a temple built by demons?
I’ve never understood this.
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Ok re-read my question and then read your answer. First tell me how to reconcile myself with God in r a real, understandable manner and then tell me how to remove myself from this world. Just asking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


the key to reconciliation is to recognize the way to Him, believe it, and ask.

to remove yourself from the world, you remove your mind/heart/spirit from the "things" of this world and keep them on the world from which you originally came

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 Quoting: Salt


Well I would love to remove myself from everything like that and indeed spend all my time sitting on my arse reconciling myself with God but there are a few problems. First I have to work to feed myself and secondly and most importantly I had my hair cut so I can't pull off the hippy sitting under the tree look. Nice idea though.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


you dont get it, and thats ok

nobody said to sit on your ass and do nothing.
nobody said to sit under a tree and stop moving or working or doing.

what i said was to remove yourself from the "things" of the world.

this is a language you can't hear.

you are being rather rude, however.

i will let that slide.
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You think I am being rude? I think you are avoiding the question. How, in actual real terms does one in this day and age remove themselves from this world? And also what is the process for finding God? Have you found God? How did you find God and how do you know the process of you finding God hadn't been corrupted by a luciferian imitation of a Godlike entity and idealism?
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Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint
The King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is the reincarnation of the fallen Adam, and not Satan.

Here's why:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god" and verse 13 says "You were in Eden, the garden of God".

Now who was the man that was in Eden other than Adam?

Adam was created perfect just like verse 15 says:
Ezekiel 28:15 "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created".

In contrast Satan was created a murderer and liar from the beginning:

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
 Quoting: John 8


Adam was an "anointed" cherub (meaning he was a Messiah) among the angels whom God covered in human flesh:

Ezekiel 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God;"

[link to godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in eden also
there are no reincarnated men
 Quoting: Salt


Then why did God say to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:13 that "You were in Eden, the garden of God"?

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 12 “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
 Quoting: Ezekiel 28

 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in the garden.
satan even goes to heaven and stands before the throne.
what, do you think that Satan cannot be in the presence of God?

satan was the spirit that possessed the king of tyre.
and when he was being addressed, it was the spirit of satan that he was speaking to.
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Another great post Salt.

Did you catch the last line in the second trailer:

“Are you the man we’ve been waiting for?”

Mason’s and the Illuminate are waiting for the anti- Christ.
I think he’ll show up pretty soon now.

Also – the pillars that are so important to Masons - refer to the two pillars of Solomon’s Temple – one of which was made of pure Emerald.
Solomon conjured up and employed (binded) Demons to build his Temple.

A little off topic but perhaps would have a thought about this, Salt.

How could anything holy (such as the Holy of Holies) be in a temple built by demons?
I’ve never understood this.
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yep. this movie is basically a prep for the emergence of the anti-christ. its a map, with clues just like the other illuminati productions of the same vein.

re: the temple

it's not holy anymore
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Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint
The King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28 is the reincarnation of the fallen Adam, and not Satan.

Here's why:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god" and verse 13 says "You were in Eden, the garden of God".

Now who was the man that was in Eden other than Adam?

Adam was created perfect just like verse 15 says:
Ezekiel 28:15 "You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created".

In contrast Satan was created a murderer and liar from the beginning:

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Adam was an "anointed" cherub (meaning he was a Messiah) among the angels whom God covered in human flesh:

Ezekiel 28:14 “You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God;"

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 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in eden also
there are no reincarnated men
 Quoting: Salt


Then why did God say to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:13 that "You were in Eden, the garden of God"?

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 12 “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
 Quoting: Ezekiel 28

 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in the garden.
satan even goes to heaven and stands before the throne.
what, do you think that Satan cannot be in the presence of God?

satan was the spirit that possessed the king of tyre.
and when he was being addressed, it was the spirit of satan that he was speaking to.
 Quoting: Salt


Where does it say God is talking to Satan in this chapter, or that the King of Tyre is possessed by a demon? It is clear from the beginning he is talking to a man:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god"

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satan was in eden also
there are no reincarnated men
 Quoting: Salt


Then why did God say to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:13 that "You were in Eden, the garden of God"?

11 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 12 “Son of man, take up a lamentation for the king of Tyre, and say to him, ‘Thus says the Lord God:

“You were the seal of perfection,
Full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
13 You were in Eden, the garden of God;
 Quoting: Ezekiel 28

 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in the garden.
satan even goes to heaven and stands before the throne.
what, do you think that Satan cannot be in the presence of God?

satan was the spirit that possessed the king of tyre.
and when he was being addressed, it was the spirit of satan that he was speaking to.
 Quoting: Salt


Where does it say God is talking to Satan in this chapter? It is clear from the beginning he is talking to a man:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god"
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


its tricky because the king is a man who is possessed by the devil. so the prophet is sent to address the king - the man. then as he speaks further, he addresses the demon that is inside of him.

maybe this will help

[link to whatthebibleteaches.com]

not only that, but there are supporting scriptures that reveal who was being addressed, why it can't be Adam, etc.

no man is reincarnated. no man.
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Then why did God say to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:13 that "You were in Eden, the garden of God"?

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 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


satan was in the garden.
satan even goes to heaven and stands before the throne.
what, do you think that Satan cannot be in the presence of God?

satan was the spirit that possessed the king of tyre.
and when he was being addressed, it was the spirit of satan that he was speaking to.
 Quoting: Salt


Where does it say God is talking to Satan in this chapter? It is clear from the beginning he is talking to a man:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god"
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


its tricky because the king is a man who is possessed by the devil. so the prophet is sent to address the king - the man. then as he speaks further, he addresses the demon that is inside of him.

maybe this will help

[link to whatthebibleteaches.com]

not only that, but there are supporting scriptures that reveal who was being addressed, why it can't be Adam, etc.

no man is reincarnated. no man.
 Quoting: Salt


I hope you at least see that when you say "God is talking to Satan in this verse and not to the king of Tyre directly", you are actually putting your interpretation in the verse rather than quote what the verse is actually saying.

Where does it say that no man is reincarnated? Are you referring to Paul's letter to the Hebrews?
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satan was in the garden.
satan even goes to heaven and stands before the throne.
what, do you think that Satan cannot be in the presence of God?

satan was the spirit that possessed the king of tyre.
and when he was being addressed, it was the spirit of satan that he was speaking to.
 Quoting: Salt


Where does it say God is talking to Satan in this chapter? It is clear from the beginning he is talking to a man:

Ezekiel 28:1 says "Yet you are a man, and not a god"
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


its tricky because the king is a man who is possessed by the devil. so the prophet is sent to address the king - the man. then as he speaks further, he addresses the demon that is inside of him.

maybe this will help

[link to whatthebibleteaches.com]

not only that, but there are supporting scriptures that reveal who was being addressed, why it can't be Adam, etc.

no man is reincarnated. no man.
 Quoting: Salt


I hope you at least see that when you say "God is talking to Satan in this verse and not to the king of Tyre directly", you are actually putting your interpretation in the verse rather than quote what the verse is actually saying.

Where does it say that no man is reincarnated? Are you referring to Paul's letter to the Hebrews?
 Quoting: Anti-GLP Effect


we are getting way off topic
if you want to do your own research, start with the link i just provided you. i did a thread a while back on reincarnation, i will see if i can find it.
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Re: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint
"Lucifer" was the most beautiful angel in Heaven; he went bad; Father threw "Lucifier" out of Heaven with his followers.

Once he was on Earth, then Father gave Lucifer a new name, the most hated name of Earth: the name was "Satan".

There is no more "Lucifer"; heis Satan, the father of the lie, according to Jesus in John 8:44, as you may see where, on one occasion, Jesus was talking to the "Jews".
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agree

but the luciferians do not look at it that way
 Quoting: Salt

of course not. Like a bunch of women in heat, they have let themselves be beguiled, and now love a lie and hate truth.

Their father is Satan, the father of the lie: see John 8:44 where Jesus is speaking to the "Jews".
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Great findings and post OP. I believe it!

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