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7 year trib means that Jesus fulfilled it.

 
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7 year trib means that Jesus fulfilled it.
The 7 year trib you wait for signifies Jesus's start, His death in the middle of the week and the gospel going out to the world.
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Re: 7 year trib means that Jesus fulfilled it.
You may have to re-understand Daniel 9:24-27

69 weeks elapsed before the coming of Messiah the prince" That means there's only one week left for the Messiah "to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness"

The assertion that the 70th week is a "one week" covenant made by the antichrist has no scriptural foundation..the antichrist is never mentioned in the passage.

[It's like the "7 Year Treaty". The text never mentions any antichrist nor does it ever mention any "treaty" The covenant that is spoken of is never said to be made with the Jews.What it does say is the covenant is made with "many"..since when is the "many" the Jews? )

The "one who confirms the covenant" is Jesus. His ministry was 3 and 1/2 years.

"in the midst of the seventh week,he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease"..here's a verse from Hebrews..

"But this man,after He had offered one sacrifice for sins FOR EVER, sat down at the right hand of God." And again "For by one offering He hath perfected FOR EVER them that are sanctified.Heb. 10:12,14

See Bo..it's a one time thing.a permanent sacrifice..(Hebrews 9:12 and 9:25, and 2 Corinthians 3:11 also speaks to this) This is not speaking of an antichrist..No..it is Jesus Christ.."who confirms the covenant with many."

The ministry of Jesus Christ lasted 3 1/2 years "in the midst of the week". and then he was "cut off"..this is when He died on the cross. This is the first half of the 70th week..there remains 3 1/2 years for the antichrist forces to wreak whatever havoc they have in mind.

You may have heard that that 69 weeks of years goes by..then everything just magically stops for 2000 years..then the "rapture" occurs which begins a 7 year rule of the antichrist.

Where in scripture does it say there's a gap of 2000 years..between the 69th week and the 70th week? I think they "say" that it's between Rome and "the 10 toes" (the "Revived Roman Empire" nonsense..doesn't the EC have like 23 members I think..do you think it will ever go back to 10?)

again..the ministry of Christ is the first half of the 70th week. It is He who ends animal sacrifices. And as for the abomination of desolation..remember Christ was weeping for Jerusalem.."Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE".

They had resumed animal sacrifices after they crucified Jesus..after the blood of Jesus had been shed for their sins. Well, the Lord put an end to it by bringing in the Romans in 70 A.D.

That's enough my brother.....how blessed are the born again saints of God who have received salvation by the precious blood of Christ. . Jesus Christ broke the power sin had over death..blessed be His name!
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Re: 7 year trib means that Jesus fulfilled it.
Op, you may already know of the things I posted above. If you did, my sincerest apologies.
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Re: 7 year trib means that Jesus fulfilled it.
You may have to re-understand Daniel 9:24-27

69 weeks elapsed before the coming of Messiah the prince" That means there's only one week left for the Messiah "to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness"

The assertion that the 70th week is a "one week" covenant made by the antichrist has no scriptural foundation..the antichrist is never mentioned in the passage.

[It's like the "7 Year Treaty". The text never mentions any antichrist nor does it ever mention any "treaty" The covenant that is spoken of is never said to be made with the Jews.What it does say is the covenant is made with "many"..since when is the "many" the Jews? )

The "one who confirms the covenant" is Jesus. His ministry was 3 and 1/2 years.

"in the midst of the seventh week,he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease"..here's a verse from Hebrews..

"But this man,after He had offered one sacrifice for sins FOR EVER, sat down at the right hand of God." And again "For by one offering He hath perfected FOR EVER them that are sanctified.Heb. 10:12,14

See Bo..it's a one time thing.a permanent sacrifice..(Hebrews 9:12 and 9:25, and 2 Corinthians 3:11 also speaks to this) This is not speaking of an antichrist..No..it is Jesus Christ.."who confirms the covenant with many."

The ministry of Jesus Christ lasted 3 1/2 years "in the midst of the week". and then he was "cut off"..this is when He died on the cross. This is the first half of the 70th week..there remains 3 1/2 years for the antichrist forces to wreak whatever havoc they have in mind.

You may have heard that that 69 weeks of years goes by..then everything just magically stops for 2000 years..then the "rapture" occurs which begins a 7 year rule of the antichrist.

Where in scripture does it say there's a gap of 2000 years..between the 69th week and the 70th week? I think they "say" that it's between Rome and "the 10 toes" (the "Revived Roman Empire" nonsense..doesn't the EC have like 23 members I think..do you think it will ever go back to 10?)

again..the ministry of Christ is the first half of the 70th week. It is He who ends animal sacrifices. And as for the abomination of desolation..remember Christ was weeping for Jerusalem.."Behold your house is left unto you DESOLATE".

They had resumed animal sacrifices after they crucified Jesus..after the blood of Jesus had been shed for their sins. Well, the Lord put an end to it by bringing in the Romans in 70 A.D.

That's enough my brother.....how blessed are the born again saints of God who have received salvation by the precious blood of Christ. . Jesus Christ broke the power sin had over death..blessed be His name!
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Re: 7 year trib means that Jesus fulfilled it.
That explanation doesn't make any better sense either. Your saying that after 69 1/2 weeks there was a 2,000 year gap.

I don't think the 2,000 yr. gap is the issue at all. The gap was God's decision, and thankfully for us, he chose to put the church - age in that gap. When the last church - age beliver gets saved, then He'll once again turn to the jews.(Rom.11:25) That future time period is called Daniel's 70th week.

Messiah was cut off after 62 weeks, not after 69 1/2 according to Dan.9:26.

The 7 weeks or 49 yrs. in Dan.9:25 started in 1967 or 1969? when the command to rebuild old Jerusalem was given. That 49 yr. count is a countdown to the 2nd coming of 'messiah the prince'.(Dan.9:25) which will be in 2016 or 2018.

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