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Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense

 
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I wondered when the Italian half-wit was gonna jump in....
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I wondered when the Italian half-wit was gonna jump in....
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Nothing else to say moron?
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which way up does the moon look if you're on the equator? (earth's equator of course, not the moon's)
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Depends on which direction you're looking. Those in the northern hemisphere typically look in a Southern direction towards the Moon. Those in the Southern typically look North. The changed view of the moon is simply due to the observer being turned a different direction.
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I'd leave DR.Astro alone to dis others. There is still room to grow. Maybe just maybe when he realises that the face of the moon which never stops facing the earth is not rotating..
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
which way up does the moon look if you're on the equator? (earth's equator of course, not the moon's)
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Depends on which direction you're looking. Those in the northern hemisphere typically look in a Southern direction towards the Moon. Those in the Southern typically look North. The changed view of the moon is simply due to the observer being turned a different direction.
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but the equator is neither in the southern hemisphere nor the northern hemisphere?
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which way up does the moon look if you're on the equator? (earth's equator of course, not the moon's)
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Depends on which direction you're looking. Those in the northern hemisphere typically look in a Southern direction towards the Moon. Those in the Southern typically look North. The changed view of the moon is simply due to the observer being turned a different direction.
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but the equator is neither in the southern hemisphere nor the northern hemisphere?
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On the equator the moon's appearance as being "typical of northern" or "typical of southern" will depend on the declination of the moon.
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Thorough. Good post.
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I'd leave DR.Astro alone to dis others. There is still room to grow. Maybe just maybe when he realises that the face of the moon which never stops facing the earth is not rotating..
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LOL. Great Point.

The Sheep are so easily buffaloed and bedazzled.

Field rotation. Lens Flare and Swamp gas. These are keep it simple stupid remarks for the dumbed down sheeples. Its the only ones they understand.

If that doesn't get them then confuse them with to much information they could never comprehend. That finishes them off.

Jupitor tilted not long ago but hey the Moon can't. LOL
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I'd leave DR.Astro alone to dis others. There is still room to grow. Maybe just maybe when he realises that the face of the moon which never stops facing the earth is not rotating..
 Quoting: Free Store 35943883


LOL. Great Point.
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The moon's being tidally locked to earth has nothing to do with field rotation. Field rotation is an apparent motion caused by the altitude-azimuth perspective of the observer and is independent of the motion of an object's true rotation. You can see that in this time lapse of Jupiter's rotation which was also filmed from an altitude-azimuth perspective (no Jupiter did not actually "tilt.")

Jupitor tilted not long ago but hey the Moon can't. LOL
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No, it did not. See above. Field rotation applies to Jupiter as well. I have proven that the moon was supposed to look like that due to field rotation, and I have provided my calculations in the form of an excel sheet anyone can look at and examine for themselves. So go ahead, show where my calculations are wrong.

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Hey astro, let do your shilling job to any cat smarter than you in astronomy...
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Hey astro, let do your shilling job to any cat smarter than you in astronomy...
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Hey ducky, you're out of your depth and you don't even realize it. Maybe if you started paying attention and started studying the books I referred you to you wouldn't be so badly outclassed. You wanted books to study, I gave you the references, you can find them in a number of university libraries and book stores. You've got a lot of catching up to do because right now...
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bsflag

and after that, go to your mods friend to complain and crying becouse of off- topic.

what a dumass. dont forget to vote green to all your shills friend, so youll get fake greens as always
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:fwp:
Wow, the level of butthurt here is off the scale, I can't even measure it. I didn't complain to any mods about your attempt to derail the other thread. But hey, maybe if you weren't such a "half-wit" as another poster put it you wouldn't find yourself constantly receiving red karma. My green karma is not fake. I know it's beyond your ability to comprehend, but lots of people agree with me. In fact, judging from my karma points, they agree with me by a greater than 2-to-1 ratio.
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So that info thare is not on common school books
right?
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Thorough. Good post.
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I guess you did not ever open a school book, even on wikipedia **** there is not such a shame...
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bump for the guys that still have a bit of common sense.
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So that info thare is not on common school books
right?
putin
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Thorough. Good post.
 Quoting: Cebeij:MV8yMTYzOTM2XzM2NTgwNzQvxXzUzOThDMjA0


I guess you did not ever open a school book, even on wikipedia **** there is not such a shame...
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bump for the guys that still have a bit of common sense.
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It's right here, used in college classes:
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Hete above its just a proof that a cat is smarter than that bot
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Hete above its just a proof that a cat is smarter than that bot
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Hete above its just a proof that a cat is smarter than that bot
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Typical DUCM bullshit. This is what he does, when you argue his wild speculation with actual FACTS he just goes into this childish kid mode where he continuously spouts one line insults.

Take it as a compliment, it's basically an acknowledgement that he's been beaten.

This guy is so stupid he thinks it's impossible to see the Moon or Venus during the day.
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Only a braibless unaducated canadiantard like you can think its normal to see venus an jupiter in the daylight
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Only a braibless unaducated canadiantard like you can think its normal to see venus an jupiter in the daylight
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I love the fact that you get more and more incoherent the more your ass get's handed to you.

Half-wit moron.
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I'd leave DR.Astro alone to dis others. There is still room to grow. Maybe just maybe when he realises that the face of the moon which never stops facing the earth is not rotating..
 Quoting: Free Store 35943883


LOL. Great Point.

The Sheep are so easily buffaloed and bedazzled.

Field rotation. Lens Flare and Swamp gas. These are keep it simple stupid remarks for the dumbed down sheeples. Its the only ones they understand.

If that doesn't get them then confuse them with to much information they could never comprehend. That finishes them off.

Jupitor tilted not long ago but hey the Moon can't. LOL
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Please explain why ORION seems to rotate through the night.

The CONSTELLATION of Orion. Which is made up of freaking STARS, hundreds of light-years away.

You just can't wrap your mind around the concept of living on the outside of a spinning ball, can you?
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Only a braibless unaducated canadiantard like you can think its normal to see venus an jupiter in the daylight
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Really? I mean, you REALLY just typed that?

Astro -- my respect for your patience increased rather dramatically just now.
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Only a braibless unaducated canadiantard like you can think its normal to see venus an jupiter in the daylight
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Really? I mean, you REALLY just typed that?

Astro -- my respect for your patience increased rather dramatically just now.
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Hello mickey mouse...
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Only a braibless unaducated canadiantard like you can think its normal to see venus an jupiter in the daylight
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Really? I mean, you REALLY just typed that?

Astro -- my respect for your patience increased rather dramatically just now.
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Hello mickey mouse...
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Uh.... Hi?
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Given the orbit, I see Venus during the day (well, during the late afternoon/early evening) at least as often as I see it at night.

Jupiter, not so much, but I've certainly seen it near dusk on plenty of nights.

Hey...why don't we get some of these guys a small scope, so they can notice Mars is flipping up-side down during the night?

Of course, since they've failed to notice the bleeding STARS are all rotating overhead.........!
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
which way up does the moon look if you're on the equator? (earth's equator of course, not the moon's)
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Depends on which direction you're looking. Those in the northern hemisphere typically look in a Southern direction towards the Moon. Those in the Southern typically look North. The changed view of the moon is simply due to the observer being turned a different direction.
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but the equator is neither in the southern hemisphere nor the northern hemisphere?
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Exactly. So when you're on the equator you can be looking East, or West depending on if it is rising or setting or even North or South because the moon's orbit takes it North and South of the equator. So again, it depends on which direction you are looking.
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
which way up does the moon look if you're on the equator? (earth's equator of course, not the moon's)
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Depends on which direction you're looking. Those in the northern hemisphere typically look in a Southern direction towards the Moon. Those in the Southern typically look North. The changed view of the moon is simply due to the observer being turned a different direction.
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but the equator is neither in the southern hemisphere nor the northern hemisphere?
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Exactly. So when you're on the equator you can be looking East, or West depending on if it is rising or setting or even North or South because the moon's orbit takes it North and South of the equator. So again, it depends on which direction you are looking.
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Imagine you're on the equator looking at the moon. The shadow is on the left. Then later on, the shadow is on the right. That could happen right? Is there an intermediate stage, or does it just suddenly flip over and the shadow goes from left to right side?
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The shadow is almost never "on the right" or "on the left." It is at some sort of angle. Over the course of a night, that angle changes. Gradually.

Think of the Moon as doing a slow pinwheel, one rotation lasting 24 hours.
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Imagine you're on the equator looking at the moon. The shadow is on the left. Then later on, the shadow is on the right. That could happen right?
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Let's make it easier:

Imagine you're on the equator looking at the moon. The terminator (the line between the dark and the lit part) is almost parallel to the horizon and at moon rise the lit part is down and the shadow up.
When the time goes on you have to look more and more up - lit part still down and shadow up.
When the moon is in the zenit you have to look straight up - lit part still down and shadow up.
As the moon moves on (resp. as earth rotates further) you have to bow back - lit part still down and shadow up.

And because you don't want to fall on your ass, you turn around - and surprise: lit part up and shadow down.

It's not the moon, that apparently rotates - it's earth and you.


Is there an intermediate stage, or does it just suddenly flip over and the shadow goes from left to right side?
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It depends on how you move.
In the above example it's a flip over because you "flip over".


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Only a braibless unaducated canadiantard like you can think its normal to see venus an jupiter in the daylight
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Yes, it's perfectly normal.
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In the 1890's, Cameron and Bruguiere found that they could observe Venus in daylight for 259 days of its 292 day average cycle between superior and inferior conjunctions.

Cameron P. & Bruguiere M., `Visibility of Venus in the Daytime', J. Brit. Astron. Assoc., 3(11), 503 (1893)


Jupiter is certainly doable too:
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
Typical DUCM bullshit. This is what he does, when you argue his wild speculation with actual FACTS he just goes into this childish kid mode where he continuously spouts one line insults.

Take it as a compliment, it's basically an acknowledgement that he's been beaten.
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Yup, you're absolutely right. Apparently he's still in his childish kid mode too; he just tried to leave me a comment on my youtube video for the spreadsheet, but youtube had already flagged it as spam by the time I got around to looking at it 30 minutes later lol.
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