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Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense

 
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I'd leave DR.Astro alone to dis others. There is still room to grow. Maybe just maybe when he realises that the face of the moon which never stops facing the earth is not rotating..
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LOL. Great Point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35955818

The moon's being tidally locked to earth has nothing to do with field rotation. Field rotation is an apparent motion caused by the altitude-azimuth perspective of the observer and is independent of the motion of an object's true rotation. You can see that in this time lapse of Jupiter's rotation which was also filmed from an altitude-azimuth perspective (no Jupiter did not actually "tilt.")

Jupitor tilted not long ago but hey the Moon can't. LOL
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No, it did not. See above. Field rotation applies to Jupiter as well. I have proven that the moon was supposed to look like that due to field rotation, and I have provided my calculations in the form of an excel sheet anyone can look at and examine for themselves. So go ahead, show where my calculations are wrong.
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Maybe we need a tard friendly field rotation example involving sitting on a reclined rotating office chair using the tards neck to simulate a polar telescope mounting. Something that makes it easy to understand for.. well for tards. You know the tardy tards in tardtown
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Maybe we need a tard friendly field rotation example involving sitting on a reclined rotating office chair using the tards neck to simulate a polar telescope mounting. Something that makes it easy to understand for.. well for tards. You know the tardy tards in tardtown
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Hahahahaa
Name calling? Is this grade school?
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Maybe we need a tard friendly field rotation example involving sitting on a reclined rotating office chair using the tards neck to simulate a polar telescope mounting. Something that makes it easy to understand for.. well for tards. You know the tardy tards in tardtown
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Hahahahaa
Name calling? Is this grade school?
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Its GLP

lol

love this place!
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This is Astrotard's speciality - mix 10% truth with 90% BS, he is a classic disinfo liar- he has ZERO credibility here...
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Then explain his green bar of karma
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It's sad that normal, quality threads and posters are always destroyed on GLP, while fearmongers always ride on their 5 star threads and being carried on hands by 99% of GLP visitors.

Keep pwning them Dr.Astro, you are fighting against a sea of GLP Retards. But I think it's more like fighting against the windmills. The general retardness of this website is sometimes hard to realise, but in the end of the day it's a fun read :D
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Maybe we need a tard friendly field rotation example involving sitting on a reclined rotating office chair using the tards neck to simulate a polar telescope mounting. Something that makes it easy to understand for.. well for tards. You know the tardy tards in tardtown
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Hahahahaa
Name calling? Is this grade school?
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No judging by the tards lack of maths skills its infants/kindergarten school

I do not have DA/DD's degree of patience. The reason being that bullshit has a lower energy barrier to diffusion in society that actual factual information. What I mean by that is that a scientist or scientifically inclined person ie DA/DD can spend ages explaining stuff to people who may or may not believe it. But a male bovine manure peddler can then proceed to convince more people to believe nonsense using less energy in less time, also the bs spreader is not constrained by any factual data which kind of gives them an unfair advantage.

Many may not believe it but DA/DD is not a shill or sheep. Many people who frequent sites such as this are in fact just a different color sheep (bullshit coloured) compared to your average person. Except of course they lie to themselves that they are awakened or enlightened, and then proceed to behave like a pigeon playing chess.
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PS I refuse to accept liability for any neck injuries sustained through attempts to simulate a polar mounted telescope
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Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31901825


Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36006335


Interesting point.

The moon appears to be "sideways". Perhaps it is tilting. Perhaps it is not. In any case, I am not sure that either side has "proved" their case here.

The ancient scientists believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth. They were correct, given their observations, which were severely limited and which were later revised.
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I know your specialty is space astroboy but just what do you think is causing the sink hole phenomena if not the rotation of plates caused by a possible pole shift?
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Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
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Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36006335



The moon appears to be "sideways". Perhaps it is tilting. Perhaps it is not. In any case, I am not sure that either side has "proved" their case here.

.
 Quoting: FreakObserver


I think if you follow the advice in the OP, and do your OWN calculations, you will see why it is what it is, and therefore case proven.


Has anyone on here done the calculations and found them to be wrong yet ? has anyone even tried ?
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PS I refuse to accept liability for any neck injuries sustained through attempts to simulate a polar mounted telescope
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You got Astros telescope wrong...you actually stand on your head in a rototating chair while using the available orifice to mount your telescope.
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Since my last post got sent to the void ... lets try this ...

What a wonderful service you are doing Dr.Astro. Taking the time out of your hectic schedule to educate people with your absolute truths ...

All hail the mighty Dr.Astro !!!
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astro fuk debunking,,what else is to be expected
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Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31901825


Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
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So you believe that the terminator line on the moon should always be perfectly vertical?
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Nice women is here now!
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Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31901825


Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36006335


So you contend there is no such phenomenon as "field rotation"?
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I enjoyed the mars comet thread, you do have some good information when it comes to things that are known. For me, this site is about new news information so that thread was right up my ally.
Its hard to understand why you do these kinds of threads, or the ones where you post under someone else's title.
Maybe the title you have chosen is an indication of why? Referencing somebody's idea as nonsense, or using their title and then bashing their theory pretty much guarantees a confrontation.
I really enjoy your original threads, but we have all read the disclaimer, and know we should not take everything here at face value.
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PS I refuse to accept liability for any neck injuries sustained through attempts to simulate a polar mounted telescope
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You got Astros telescope wrong...you actually stand on your head in a rototating chair while using the available orifice to mount your telescope.
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Well it would certainly be a different experience
ps go fuck yourself pretend yank
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Astro...just stop.

The moon was tilted here in the southeast pacific too. Blame coordinates???? I have looked up at that moon THOUSANDS of times...and sorry to burst your bubble...but only recently has it started smiling back at me with that Cheshire grin shape.

you just debunked yourself as being somewhat legit. not much else.
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So you claim the terminator line on the moon should always be vertical?
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LOL, Keep doc (dog) Astro playing with the Tilted-Moon Trolls today!

Maybe there is a lack of more serious material.

I can only hope.

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I'm not going to argue with an obvious expert...just saying that it was tilted from my coordinates as well
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33597030


GAWD! When are you all going to realize that the moon APPEARS to change its "tilt" CONSTANTLY whenever it is seen crossing the sky?! Just stfu and WATCH the moon(or any constellation) for a few hours and think about what you see. Sheesh!
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Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31901825


Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36006335


Interesting point.

The moon appears to be "sideways". Perhaps it is tilting. Perhaps it is not. In any case, I am not sure that either side has "proved" their case here.

The ancient scientists believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth. They were correct, given their observations, which were severely limited and which were later revised.
 Quoting: FreakObserver


It's astounding how so many people can't tell shit from Shinola.
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great thread

morans gonna moran
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um, I posted on this thread so ok, I'll go on record with my opinion -


1) I observe the moon regularly and see that the illuminated portion is always pointing towards where one would expect the sun to be, and assuming that the moon is spherical in shape.

2) I also observe the rising and setting of the sun most days, and it seems to me to be following its normal annual paths.

3) My buddy Martin who is the present native family guardian of knowledge concerning the Aztec astronomical temples of Malinalco, also makes regular observations of sun angles using fixed monolithic points in the temple taught to him by his grandparents. The ancient observatory may be over 1000 years old.

I asked Martin directly about these things a month or so ago and he assures me that the locations of the sun and the moon are exactly where they are expected to be, and that he knows this from direct methodical observation.

here's a few images from his book so you sort of get the idea of how he does it-

[link to i1065.photobucket.com]

[link to i1065.photobucket.com]

[link to i1065.photobucket.com]
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um, I posted on this thread so ok, I'll go on record with my opinion -


1) I observe the moon regularly and see that the illuminated portion is always pointing towards where one would expect the sun to be, and assuming that the moon is spherical in shape.

2) I also observe the rising and setting of the sun most days, and it seems to me to be following its normal annual paths.

3) My buddy Martin who is the present native family guardian of knowledge concerning the Aztec astronomical temples of Malinalco, also makes regular observations of sun angles using fixed monolithic points in the temple taught to him by his grandparents. The ancient observatory may be over 1000 years old.

I asked Martin directly about these things a month or so ago and he assures me that the locations of the sun and the moon are exactly where they are expected to be, and that he knows this from direct methodical observation.

here's a few images from his book so you sort of get the idea of how he does it-

[link to i1065.photobucket.com]

[link to i1065.photobucket.com]

[link to i1065.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: ehecatl


very cool!

kinda debunks the whole "OMG the sun/moon is in the wrong place you guys" bullshit threads, huh suntards?

Aztecs right again! tounge
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Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31901825


Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36006335


Interesting point.

The moon appears to be "sideways". Perhaps it is tilting. Perhaps it is not. In any case, I am not sure that either side has "proved" their case here.

The ancient scientists believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth. They were correct, given their observations, which were severely limited and which were later revised.
 Quoting: FreakObserver


It's astounding how so many people can't tell shit from Shinola.
 Quoting: Menow 636186


lookie here
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It is quite simple to understand, if you don't want to do the calculations in the OP then these animations will help

Spring Cheshire
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]

Autumn/Fall Cheshire
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]

Taken from this site which also gives a short answer and an indepth answer
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]
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It is quite simple to understand, if you don't want to do the calculations in the OP then these animations will help

Spring Cheshire
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]

Autumn/Fall Cheshire
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]


Taken from this site which also gives a short answer and an indepth answer
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]
 Quoting: Wispa

First two links are not working - crash my VLC (only 86 and 91 bytes)

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Fuck your spreadsheet astro. NASA Shill. The moon is not right.
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Gee, what a well thought out and detailed reply!
rolleyes

This is Astrotard's speciality - mix 10% truth with 90% BS, he is a classic disinfo liar- he has ZERO credibility here...
 Quoting: FOTN


So prove him wrong then. I dare you.
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Astro...just stop.

The moon was tilted here in the southeast pacific too. Blame coordinates???? I have looked up at that moon THOUSANDS of times...and sorry to burst your bubble...but only recently has it started smiling back at me with that Cheshire grin shape.

you just debunked yourself as being somewhat legit. not much else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33597030


Translation: I don't understand field rotation, don't want to understand it and you can't make me!
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