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Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense

 
Anonymous Coward
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03/12/2013 05:58 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
Astro...just stop.

The moon was tilted here in the southeast pacific too. Blame coordinates???? I have looked up at that moon THOUSANDS of times...and sorry to burst your bubble...but only recently has it started smiling back at me with that Cheshire grin shape.

you just debunked yourself as being somewhat legit. not much else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33597030


Translation: I don't understand field rotation, don't want to understand it and you can't make me!
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


that might be a translation or how about; have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
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03/12/2013 06:05 PM

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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Because some YouTube moontard says so?

brainuseit

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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03/12/2013 06:06 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
It is quite simple to understand, if you don't want to do the calculations in the OP then these animations will help

Spring Cheshire
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]

Autumn/Fall Cheshire
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]


Taken from this site which also gives a short answer and an indepth answer
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]
 Quoting: Wispa

First two links are not working - crash my VLC (only 86 and 91 bytes)

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 Quoting: Hydra


Sorry Hydra, they are Quicktime links.

They have an AVI alternative on the site if that helps.

Spring
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]

Autumn
[link to planetariumweb.madison.k12.wi.us (secure)]
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03/12/2013 06:09 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Because some YouTube moontard says so?

:brainuseit:

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 Quoting: Hydra


No cause I say so.
Through observation.

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
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03/12/2013 06:46 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Because some YouTube moontard says so?

:brainuseit:

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 Quoting: Hydra


No cause I say so.
Through observation.

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


You actually think you can, from sheer MEMORY, state what the location in the sky and orientation of the moon should be on any given date? Really?
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03/12/2013 06:48 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Because some YouTube moontard says so?

:brainuseit:

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 Quoting: Hydra


No cause I say so.
Through observation.

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Please describe the "conduct an experiment" stage of your inquiry into this matter.
Hydra

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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Because some YouTube moontard says so?

brainuseit

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 Quoting: Hydra


No cause I say so.
Through observation.

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471

Nice flowchart: [link to science.howstuffworks.com]

So you made observations.

Why didn't you follow the rest of the flowchart?

Ask a question
Form a hypothesis
Conduct an experiment
Accept/Reject the hypothesis


The "Scientific Method Steps" in the flowchart are not:

Make an observation
Watch a YouTube video
Avoide thinking and accept the bullshit from the video
Repost the bullshit seen in the video on GLP



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
Weasel_Turbine

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03/12/2013 07:50 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
Astro...just stop.

The moon was tilted here in the southeast pacific too. Blame coordinates???? I have looked up at that moon THOUSANDS of times...and sorry to burst your bubble...but only recently has it started smiling back at me with that Cheshire grin shape.

you just debunked yourself as being somewhat legit. not much else.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33597030


Translation: I don't understand field rotation, don't want to understand it and you can't make me!
 Quoting: Weasel_Turbine


that might be a translation or how about; have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Too bad for you there is plenty of evidence to show that all is normal. The ancient egyptians and hawaians described it. Lewis Carroll used it for the Cheshire cat (that is why it is called a Cheshire Moon) I'm fairly certain it is also mentioned in the bible and Shakespeare. Just because you never noticed it before doesn't mean nobody else has.

Last Edited by LHP598 on 03/12/2013 07:51 PM
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03/12/2013 08:03 PM

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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
Also have seen the Cheshire cat smile of the moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31901825


Me Too.

All this blathering on about field rotation does still not say anything to the obvious. Look at the video. Tilting...?

But it is a smile and in all my years have been seeing this more and more just lately. Not years ago and not even a few years ago but just lately.

I don't care to take the advice being offered. I don't are about his calculations and book deals.

The video clearly shows somthing strange. Otherwise if this was perfectly normal why was a video taken. Obviously others thought it was strange too.

Dazzle the young cause they don't know any better but those that have been on this planet longer KNOW somthing is up and wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36006335


Interesting point.

The moon appears to be "sideways". Perhaps it is tilting. Perhaps it is not. In any case, I am not sure that either side has "proved" their case here.
 Quoting: FreakObserver

Have you downloaded the spreadsheet, tried it for yourself, or looked at the math to see why it's like that? This information comes from a book over 20 years old. And really all that gets you is the moon's coordinates for any given point in time; the part where it calculates the apparent orientation comes after that and if you understand that part you can see that it's a natural consequence of the difference between equatorial and altitude-azimuth coordinates (ie, field rotation) and the moon's position in the sky relative to the sun.

It's all there, and it all works, even on an old photograph like the one I referenced. That's exactly how it should look from that location at that time.
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03/12/2013 08:10 PM
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Ass tro math .....

1 + 1 = 3, and 3-1 = 0.

ALSO .... Up is DOWN, moon = loon, etc.

Go back to asylum !
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03/12/2013 08:15 PM

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Ass tro math .....

1 + 1 = 3, and 3-1 = 0.

ALSO .... Up is DOWN, moon = loon, etc.

Go back to asylum !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26614631


Show where my math is wrong:
[link to dropcanvas.com]
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phoomp

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03/12/2013 08:57 PM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
Why didn't you follow the rest of the flowchart?

Ask a question
Form a hypothesis
Conduct an experiment
Accept/Reject the hypothesis


The "Scientific Method Steps" in the flowchart are not:

Make an observation
Watch a YouTube video
Avoide thinking and accept the bullshit from the video
Repost the bullshit seen in the video on GLP

 Quoting: Hydra

That sounds like A LOT of work! It's far more fun to just make stuff up and use scienciey words. The more scienciey words the more people will accept it and shout SHILL!!! at anyone who asks too many questions.
phoomp

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03/13/2013 09:01 AM
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Re: Debunking the "Tilted Moon Filmed in Canada" Nonsense
have been observing moon phases for many years and things don't seem the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471


Because some YouTube moontard says so?

brainuseit

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 Quoting: Hydra


No cause I say so.
Through observation.

[link to science.howstuffworks.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1466471

Now, here's where science gets fun!

Through forty years of observation, I say that there is nothing strange about the moon in this orientation. Now, how do we resolve this apparent conflict? Do you have documentation proving your observations? Neither do I. But , I do have these:

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

[link to www.google.ca (secure)]
DVCMCM

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03/28/2013 02:47 AM

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I'd leave DR.Astro alone to dis others. There is still room to grow. Maybe just maybe when he realises that the face of the moon which never stops facing the earth is not rotating..
 Quoting: Free Store 35943883


LOL. Great Point.

The Sheep are so easily buffaloed and bedazzled.

Field rotation. Lens Flare and Swamp gas. These are keep it simple stupid remarks for the dumbed down sheeples. Its the only ones they understand.

If that doesn't get them then confuse them with to much information they could never comprehend. That finishes them off.

Jupitor tilted not long ago but hey the Moon can't. LOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35955818


Ok explain why field rotation is impossible using elementary vector mathematics.

But you can't can you

TWAT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36034940


Y, the Sideways Moon on our Northern Hemisphere (since late 2007) becouse field rotation bullshit by an GLPers atrotard invention here is the result of high level if ignorance only (its stupid also, cant believe some "fine" minds here believes that crap).


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Hydra

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03/28/2013 03:56 AM

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Y, the Sideways Moon on our Northern Hemisphere (since late 2007) becouse field rotation bullshit by an GLPers atrotard invention here is the result of high level if ignorance only (its stupid also, cant believe some "fine" minds here believes that crap).
 Quoting: DVCMCM


Ducky look at the picture and then say:
"Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - Field rotation is real - ..."

hypnosehypnose


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India

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