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Dr...

I got the same thing, but you MAY be surprised that your call MAY not have been at random...

I'm working on a blog regarding "RATs" which are remote access trojans. They enter your computer, then set up shop by activating your Windows Remote Assistanace software and possibly your Remote Desktop to invade other computers you have.

These RATs are NOT amateurs having fun, some of them determine that your system has uses that they can profit from, such as turning your computer into a proxy server so that they can earn income from your IP address.

Since you received this call, you should do a regedit check to see if a RAT is in your computer.

Go to your Start Menu, click RUN then type in 'regedit' (no quotes, of course)

When you get into regedit go cntrl F and type 'remoteaccess' no spaces, caps or quotes.

Hit F3 button to go the the next entry.

You should NOT have anthing but clearly identifiable computer type coding and nothing like 'IMnComputer' or 'Dialup_for_Free'

If you have anything like this then you have a RAT.

After going all the way to the bottom, scroll your registry all the way to the top and click 'Computer' (that will take the invisible cursor to the top.

This time, type in 'zonemap' in the find box and click F3 to go through the same process.

When you get to 'zonemap' open the folder and all of the subfolders. Take note of any suspicious Internet Domain Names like bubba.com or www.(porn, gambling, hacker).coms.

If you find Internet sites that you know you haven't been to, your computer has been turned into a proxy server.

In either, everyone I know recommends formatting your hard drive and reinstall windows.

To the best of my knowledge (and I've done a lot of study in the area) NO antivirus software whatsoever will advise you that you may have a RAT or you have been turned into a proxy server.

One important, once a RAT gets into your computer, it can install a broadcast beacon which transmits in the blind in the event your IP address gets changed.

Hackers like the one who called you know what the signal is, and possible some of them might even be honest (the guy who called me seemed to be honest when I told him I could fix this myself. He said the words to me "You better not use the Internet until you get rid of this."

I didn't believe him, and I found out that I was wrong when someone got into my bank account. (Luckily nothing was stolen because the account was empty that day.)
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I didn't see the video above but yeah, that's the one. Funny stuff.
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To bad someone doesn't play along and give them access to a cpu that is just loaded with viruses and malware to infect the hell out of the scammers cpu. That would be funny.
 Quoting: Jknoph


I was hoping to get contacted by one of those Nigerian scammers who needs access to my banking information. I wanted to get their hopes up by informing them that I just stumbled upon an inheritance and then proceed to furnish them made-up account numbers and then play stupid when they request clarification about why the numbers are not working.

charlie
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Years ago, my daughter sent me a website called "Busted up Cowgirl." She kept the scammers going by pretending she was interested. She would go on for days and weeks. It was hilarious.

Black print is the Nigerian scammer...green print is kristen, the "Busted Up Cowgirl."

This is something of hers....lol:
[link to www.eagle-wing.net]

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Oh you know what would be really fun?
Act like an idiot and make them walk you through how to turn on the computer. That could kill half an hour.
 Quoting: The Loophole


cruise

if i had the time that would have been hilarious!

"when i hit the power button it doesnt do anything unless i set the timer"

let em know after a good while... its the computer that reheats your food... aka microwave

lol
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Then say 'may I put you on hold?" Punch a button and holler "do you have a geographical on this damned scammer yet? They're going in with guns, this time right? I want to hear that. I'll keep him talking". Punch the same button

"Ok mike. Where were we?"
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Scam the Scammers:

[link to www.google.com]
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I got it today, too.

I asked my husband what a computer was. He told me it was the thing that propped the table to make it even.

Called back. Told them I had an Apple IIe, so I didn't know the OS.

The third call, I handed them to the baby.
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Oh you know what would be really fun?
Act like an idiot and make them walk you through how to turn on the computer. That could kill half an hour.
 Quoting: The Loophole


cruise

if i had the time that would have been hilarious!

"when i hit the power button it doesnt do anything unless i set the timer"

let em know after a good while... its the computer that reheats your food... aka microwave

lol
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Then say 'may I put you on hold?" Punch a button and holler "do you have a geographical on this damned scammer yet? They're going in with guns, this time right? I want to hear that. I'll keep him talking". Punch the same button

"Ok mike. Where were we?"
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Dr...

I got the same thing, but you MAY be surprised that your call MAY not have been at random...

 Quoting: RockHall


thanks for the tip

cheers

I wondered the same at first... but i checked earlier and my system(s) is/are all clean.

Matter of fact I had computer crash recently and rebuilt my machine from a mix mash of parts... running on a frankenputer :)

I just got it up and running late last night. fresh install of the OS and everything...

and I got hughesnet satellite and it has a bandwidth cap... and a bandwidth usage meter...
i watch it like a hawk... to make sure i dont run out of bandwidth...

I even run an additional program that tells me where/what all incoming and outgoing connections are... and it matches up with hughesnet's usage meter.

Even if they do somehow manage to install something on my systems... any of them... i'd see it within 5 minutes muhwahaha :)

once again thanks for taking the time to type all that out... as soon as my green recharges... i'll hit ya with some karma for the effort! :)
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I got it today, too.

I asked my husband what a computer was. He told me it was the thing that propped the table to make it even.

Called back. Told them I had an Apple IIe, so I didn't know the OS.

The third call, I handed them to the baby.
 Quoting: SewDucky


lol

rockon
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. ... That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave." - General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson
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Yep, I get these too -- I just tell them something funky like I'm running OS/2 or I don't need a computer because I can surf the Internet by remote viewing...
 Quoting: kingbirdfivezero


Oh, now that's good! My cats are looking alarmed, I laughed so loud.

Hey Dr. Ac', I'm not an AC any more! I bit the bullet (no necks for me) and signed up.

Thanks for the warning, great thread. There are some great Social Engineering solutions being proposed to deal with these malcontents.

I'm thinking of upgrading my account when my Lichen Lease from rentmothernature.com runs out. Did I say lichen? I meant Lycan Lease. Mmmm! Werebacon!

M.E.H.

ps. Don't go looking, those leases aren't available to the general public.
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To bad someone doesn't play along and give them access to a cpu that is just loaded with viruses and malware to infect the hell out of the scammers cpu. That would be funny.
 Quoting: Jknoph


I was hoping to get contacted by one of those Nigerian scammers who needs access to my banking information. I wanted to get their hopes up by informing them that I just stumbled upon an inheritance and then proceed to furnish them made-up account numbers and then play stupid when they request clarification about why the numbers are not working.

charlie
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Years ago, my daughter sent me a website called "Busted up Cowgirl." She kept the scammers going by pretending she was interested. She would go on for days and weeks. It was hilarious.

Black print is the Nigerian scammer...green print is kristen, the "Busted Up Cowgirl."

This is something of hers....lol:
[link to www.eagle-wing.net]
 Quoting: nutmeg


lol

that was a good read!
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. ... That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave." - General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson
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Yep, I get these too -- I just tell them something funky like I'm running OS/2 or I don't need a computer because I can surf the Internet by remote viewing...
 Quoting: kingbirdfivezero


Oh, now that's good! My cats are looking alarmed, I laughed so loud.

Hey Dr. Ac', I'm not an AC any more! I bit the bullet (no necks for me) and signed up.

Thanks for the warning, great thread. There are some great Social Engineering solutions being proposed to deal with these malcontents.

I'm thinking of upgrading my account when my Lichen Lease from rentmothernature.com runs out. Did I say lichen? I meant Lycan Lease. Mmmm! Werebacon!

M.E.H.

ps. Don't go looking, those leases aren't available to the general public.
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Nice to see you on here as a registard grinning

cheers
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Excellent thread, Dr. Acula!! Still LOL on the Ethel and rattlesnake stories...applause2
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Excellent thread, Dr. Acula!! Still LOL on the Ethel and rattlesnake stories...applause2
 Quoting: ~Christine~


:)

grinning

thankyouweryacul

cheers
"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. ... That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave." - General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson
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Oh for sure this is a scam company. Unfortunately there are a heck of alot of them. I used to work for HP technical support for printers and we would get calls about these companies all the time. The one i know of off the top of my head is iYOGI. They would charge the customer $150 just to tell them there was a problem with their printer and to call us. They would ask for remote access to their customer and not do anything. Multiple times I had people ask me how to make sure these people were not still connected to their PC.

I have also heard of multiple horror stories from customer who have actually fallen victim to the scam the OP is referring to. They take your money and personal info, gain access to your computer. They probably give you viruses instead of cleaning them. This is 100% a scam. What I want to know is how in the blue hell do they get your number to begin with. The audacity of some of these companies astounds me. They must think that all westerners are completely retarded.

OP I'm glad that you had the knowhow and expertise to spot this SCAM and stop it. The problem is that a good majority of people don't know alot about their computer and would fall for a scam like this. Alot of older people get afraid when they are told they have a virus on their PC's.
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they prolly tried every phone with a 606 area code (my area)

just set an area code and a suffix and have a computer try every possibility/combination of numbers.

speaking of older folks...
i've noticed a lot of scammers dial my numbers...
my father is 65+ and one phone is in his name...
so i bet they were trying to get him... because of his age range.

fuckers.

but had they got ahold of him...

it would have been hilarious... and rather educational to them... lol
he's told telemarketers in the past how to "ring a chickens neck and make home made dumplings" or how to make a snare to catch rabbits... or whatever "how to" that pops in his mind at the time. lol
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


That's awesome. Unfortunately not enough elderly know to do that to make a difference. At least when it comes to computers anyways. I find it funny how they announce they are with "Windows Operating System" when windows operating system isn't a company.

I would have SOOOOO much fun with them if they called me. It would be funny to tell them you don't even have a computer. Then see what they say. Or lead them on. Tell them that you are following their directions and don't see what they are telling them to do. Ask them why your windows need an operating system. Ask them what operating system a window needs. Tell them that they are just the standard windows that you normally would get. I would get a callback number too. I'd call them relentlessly everyday and tell them that I'm with microsoft's legal team and wish to discuss pending litigation as long as its not a long distance number. lol

OOOOO the fun I would have
HEHEHE
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lol if they tried that on me now i'm on a nintendo wii , do they do that scam in all countries
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Don't run Windows software. Problem solved
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You mean like - if you ve got LINUX - they won't call you?
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Don't run Windows software. Problem solved
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You mean like - if you ve got LINUX - they won't call you?
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they will still call you
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Oh for sure this is a scam company. Unfortunately there are a heck of alot of them. I used to work for HP technical support for printers and we would get calls about these companies all the time. The one i know of off the top of my head is iYOGI. They would charge the customer $150 just to tell them there was a problem with their printer and to call us. They would ask for remote access to their customer and not do anything. Multiple times I had people ask me how to make sure these people were not still connected to their PC.

I have also heard of multiple horror stories from customer who have actually fallen victim to the scam the OP is referring to. They take your money and personal info, gain access to your computer. They probably give you viruses instead of cleaning them. This is 100% a scam. What I want to know is how in the blue hell do they get your number to begin with. The audacity of some of these companies astounds me. They must think that all westerners are completely retarded.

OP I'm glad that you had the knowhow and expertise to spot this SCAM and stop it. The problem is that a good majority of people don't know alot about their computer and would fall for a scam like this. Alot of older people get afraid when they are told they have a virus on their PC's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21495402


they prolly tried every phone with a 606 area code (my area)

just set an area code and a suffix and have a computer try every possibility/combination of numbers.

speaking of older folks...
i've noticed a lot of scammers dial my numbers...
my father is 65+ and one phone is in his name...
so i bet they were trying to get him... because of his age range.

fuckers.

but had they got ahold of him...

it would have been hilarious... and rather educational to them... lol
he's told telemarketers in the past how to "ring a chickens neck and make home made dumplings" or how to make a snare to catch rabbits... or whatever "how to" that pops in his mind at the time. lol
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Your dad sounds adorable! HAAAAAA!

hf
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....

it would have been hilarious... and rather educational to them... lol
he's told telemarketers in the past how to "ring a chickens neck and make home made dumplings" or how to make a snare to catch rabbits... or whatever "how to" that pops in his mind at the time. lol
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Your dad sounds adorable! HAAAAAA!

hf


I want to borrow him.
I seriously suck at how to kill things for food. How to raise things for food I've got down, but then they look at me with their trusting eyes and...
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I want to borrow him.
I seriously suck at how to kill things for food. How to raise things for food I've got down, but then they look at me with their trusting eyes and...
 Quoting: The Loophole


well my best advice... and i've done it a bunch... without the food procured I would have starved...

you cant look at it as killing... its a gift... after you have ended its life cycle thank the animal for gift of nourishment.
Don't 'kill' it with anger... do so with a kind heart... it matters... it may sound silly... but it matters.

when you go to end its cycle... and their trusting eyes is looking at you... think of it as them offering their gift of life to sustain you. they will become apart of you :)

Never kill for sport... unless you eat it and make use of it... Never never kill to just let it way waste.

hf

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"My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. ... That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave." - General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson
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Dr...

I got the same thing, but you MAY be surprised that your call MAY not have been at random...

 Quoting: RockHall


thanks for the tip

cheers

I wondered the same at first... but i checked earlier and my system(s) is/are all clean.

Matter of fact I had computer crash recently and rebuilt my machine from a mix mash of parts... running on a frankenputer :)

I just got it up and running late last night. fresh install of the OS and everything...

and I got hughesnet satellite and it has a bandwidth cap... and a bandwidth usage meter...
i watch it like a hawk... to make sure i dont run out of bandwidth...

I even run an additional program that tells me where/what all incoming and outgoing connections are... and it matches up with hughesnet's usage meter.

Even if they do somehow manage to install something on my systems... any of them... i'd see it within 5 minutes muhwahaha :)

once again thanks for taking the time to type all that out... as soon as my green recharges... i'll hit ya with some karma for the effort! :)
 Quoting: Dr. Acula


Sounds good to me...

Since I know I had the 'Broadcast' part, several hackers were interested in the fact that I had 4GB Ram on an XP pro (which can only use 3GB for Windows OS and I have a video accelerator with its own 1GB Ram (or VRAM, who knows?)

So I had repeated visits.

What I had to do was to remove the Remote Assistance .exe and there are two services in msconfig (not the req'd ones) I had to shut off.

This was in addition to clicking off Remote Assistance and Remote Desktop toggles in the Start Menu.

I think I had a total of 7 or 8 RAT infections since last July.

Glad to see you're doing well keeping those miscreants out.

Last Edited by RockHall on 03/11/2013 10:12 PM
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I got a call from

(456)-985-3896

I dont know where these people are located... they sound like they hail from India... but have more of a "bite" to their accent... their english is decent... anyways...

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So somebody calls you from India....and why do you bother to to give them the time of day? You deserve it you ass!
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Thanks for sharing. I haven't had a call like that but it's good to be aware of such a scheme. Had I received a call like that earlier, I might have fallen victim to it. Terrible!
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I have read a post at [link to www.callercenter.com] discussing a phone scam call employing the same trick. It's called the fake Microsoft call. Could they be just the same scammers perpetrating a scheme with different versions?

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