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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 35978296  United States03/11/2013 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Ford Prefect  User ID: 35836013  Brazil03/11/2013 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you never have been - and if someone thinks you are, move on. That's all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35978296 "You're not responsible for anyone else's happiness" True! But you ARE responsible for anyone else's UNHAPPINESS, the moment you stepped in anyone else's LIFE and made mistakes, like being hostile, aggressive, violent, dishonest, treasonous, liar, deceitful, and many other stupid attitudes that humans have to each other. And by making someone's else life MISERABLE, we not only harden their karmic burden, but we also fuck up ours more and more. That's what's called "COLLECTIVE KARMA". Can't argue with that, can't run away from that, can't hide from that. Welcome to planet Earth. I agree. This is a sick world, but we can recover by changing the direction or learning about how truly sick we are. People who are hostile, aggressive,violent, dishonest, etc, do affect others, especially children, who then become adult children, meaning that you have children who never truly grew up, which is what we have mostly today. We have adults who look like adult but who are still children on the inside, meaning, they never learned to learn moderation in their thinking, feeling, and acting, never learned containment, self esteem, boundaries, limits, and are completely shame bound or shameless and those are exactly who become offender like the people who mentioned above(violent, aggressive, etc) When we as people can learn to truly grow up and heal the wounds from childhood and learn what it's like to be an adult, we will not be offenders anymore and we don't trickle the pain onto the following generations. The problem with being a child in an adult body is that life will not work. Actually it will spiral out of control, and this happens partly because as adult children, we are expecting others to make us happy, etc, and we are expecting the world to give us what we never learned to give ourselves which is a sense of inherent value and worth, and we already know how to meet our own needs and how not to become offenders to others, especially to our children. It's not that simple. Actually it gets way more complicated because when while you're a child you don't have the energy sexual developed, and you don't have the magnetic print of the sex act in your soul, EXCEPT by those children who are victim of ritualistic sex abuse. These are the ones who become more damaged adults in unspeakable ways. But whatever type of non-sexual abuse a person suffered during childhood, the legion of psychic aggregates created by the various traumas usually steal the energy of the sex center, which is the most powerful we have. Then the term "childish adult" doesn't apply much because sex turned you into an adult. The only thing you keep from childhood are traumas and pains, not an actual childness. And just so you know, SEX transmits KARMA from one person to another, since the atoms of one person's sexual fluid are absorbed by another during the intercourse. Matter of fact, the IDEAL is having if possible ONE partner for life, or at least the less number possible. It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know...where your towel is. |
| Integrity101 User ID: 31628188 United States03/11/2013 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you never have been - and if someone thinks you are, move on. That's all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35978296 "You're not responsible for anyone else's happiness" True! But you ARE responsible for anyone else's UNHAPPINESS, the moment you stepped in anyone else's LIFE and made mistakes, like being hostile, aggressive, violent, dishonest, treasonous, liar, deceitful, and many other stupid attitudes that humans have to each other. And by making someone's else life MISERABLE, we not only harden their karmic burden, but we also fuck up ours more and more. That's what's called "COLLECTIVE KARMA". Can't argue with that, can't run away from that, can't hide from that. Welcome to planet Earth.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31758083 United States03/11/2013 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you never have been - and if someone thinks you are, move on. That's all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35978296 "You're not responsible for anyone else's happiness" True! But you ARE responsible for anyone else's UNHAPPINESS, the moment you stepped in anyone else's LIFE and made mistakes, like being hostile, aggressive, violent, dishonest, treasonous, liar, deceitful, and many other stupid attitudes that humans have to each other. And by making someone's else life MISERABLE, we not only harden their karmic burden, but we also fuck up ours more and more. That's what's called "COLLECTIVE KARMA". Can't argue with that, can't run away from that, can't hide from that. Welcome to planet Earth. Brilliant! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35806305  Netherlands03/11/2013 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you never have been - and if someone thinks you are, move on. That's all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35978296 "You're not responsible for anyone else's happiness" True! But you ARE responsible for anyone else's UNHAPPINESS, the moment you stepped in anyone else's LIFE and made mistakes, like being hostile, aggressive, violent, dishonest, treasonous, liar, deceitful, and many other stupid attitudes that humans have to each other. And by making someone's else life MISERABLE, we not only harden their karmic burden, but we also fuck up ours more and more. That's what's called "COLLECTIVE KARMA". Can't argue with that, can't run away from that, can't hide from that. Welcome to planet Earth. I agree. This is a sick world, but we can recover by changing the direction or learning about how truly sick we are. People who are hostile, aggressive,violent, dishonest, etc, do affect others, especially children, who then become adult children, meaning that you have children who never truly grew up, which is what we have mostly today. We have adults who look like adult but who are still children on the inside, meaning, they never learned to learn moderation in their thinking, feeling, and acting, never learned containment, self esteem, boundaries, limits, and are completely shame bound or shameless and those are exactly who become offender like the people who mentioned above(violent, aggressive, etc) When we as people can learn to truly grow up and heal the wounds from childhood and learn what it's like to be an adult, we will not be offenders anymore and we don't trickle the pain onto the following generations. The problem with being a child in an adult body is that life will not work. Actually it will spiral out of control, and this happens partly because as adult children, we are expecting others to make us happy, etc, and we are expecting the world to give us what we never learned to give ourselves which is a sense of inherent value and worth, and we already know how to meet our own needs and how not to become offenders to others, especially to our children. It's not that simple. Actually it gets way more complicated because when while you're a child you don't have the energy sexual developed, and you don't have the magnetic print of the sex act in your soul, EXCEPT by those children who are victim of ritualistic sex abuse. These are the ones who become more damaged adults in unspeakable ways. But whatever type of non-sexual abuse a person suffered during childhood, the legion of psychic aggregates created by the various traumas usually steal the energy of the sex center, which is the most powerful we have. Then the term "childish adult" doesn't apply much because sex turned you into an adult. The only thing you keep from childhood are traumas and pains, not an actual childness. And just so you know, SEX transmits KARMA from one person to another, since the atoms of one person's sexual fluid are absorbed by another during the intercourse. Matter of fact, the IDEAL is having if possible ONE partner for life, or at least the less number possible. You are still responsible for your own healing. Whether it's through therapy, sexual therapy, hypnosis, past life regression, trauma work, emdr, you are responsible to heal and work on your own karma sort of speak. If you have a SRA victim with multiple personalities and still suffering from it, it is still they who need to seek the proper healing methods. They are still responsible for their own recovery. Even if it is to recover their energy center, their balance, their sexuality. We do have carried over feelings from those who perpetrate and it is also up to us to give that back sort of speak, not carry those psychic attachments sort of speak and not depleat our own energy field but that also takes self work in order to get ourselves back, and we can do it. It is still our responsibility. Isn't that the topic? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17799088 United States03/11/2013 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you never have been - and if someone thinks you are, move on. That's all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35978296 "You're not responsible for anyone else's happiness" True! But you ARE responsible for anyone else's UNHAPPINESS, the moment you stepped in anyone else's LIFE and made mistakes, like being hostile, aggressive, violent, dishonest, treasonous, liar, deceitful, and many other stupid attitudes that humans have to each other. And by making someone's else life MISERABLE, we not only harden their karmic burden, but we also fuck up ours more and more. That's what's called "COLLECTIVE KARMA". Can't argue with that, can't run away from that, can't hide from that. Welcome to planet Earth. I agree. This is a sick world, but we can recover by changing the direction or learning about how truly sick we are. People who are hostile, aggressive,violent, dishonest, etc, do affect others, especially children, who then become adult children, meaning that you have children who never truly grew up, which is what we have mostly today. We have adults who look like adult but who are still children on the inside, meaning, they never learned to learn moderation in their thinking, feeling, and acting, never learned containment, self esteem, boundaries, limits, and are completely shame bound or shameless and those are exactly who become offender like the people who mentioned above(violent, aggressive, etc) When we as people can learn to truly grow up and heal the wounds from childhood and learn what it's like to be an adult, we will not be offenders anymore and we don't trickle the pain onto the following generations. The problem with being a child in an adult body is that life will not work. Actually it will spiral out of control, and this happens partly because as adult children, we are expecting others to make us happy, etc, and we are expecting the world to give us what we never learned to give ourselves which is a sense of inherent value and worth, and we already know how to meet our own needs and how not to become offenders to others, especially to our children. WOW...this is some serious wisdom. Had never thought about it like this, but you my friend are right on. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339  Spain03/12/2013 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So lets take an example of a family where this is applied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35951339 the wife/mother husband/ father would not feel responsable for the happiness of any of its members thats my idea of a disfunctional nightmarish family my idea of a family is everyone puts evryone else first, love is shown and shared, lots of hugs and affection and yes others happiness comes first because when you truly love the happiness of your spouse and or children is your happiness how can you be happy if those you love care about are not happy? Okay, so we are talking about adults now, not children, because with children, they needs nurturing, care, and support while helping them set boundaries and limits through example and direction. Int he adult world, we are all supposed to be responsible for our happiness so nobody is expecting nor needing another to do something to make them happy. So if wife wants a hug and expressed she wants a hug, and husband doesn't want to hug her, wife is not going to oblige, and husband has a choice to hug or not hug. Wife has the responsibility to ask for a hug at a later time and if hubby wants later, then great, but if hubby keeps not wanting to hug, then it is wife's responsibility to see how she can get a hug from (a massage at a spa, her child, her mom, etc) and if that's not enough and she wants a hug from the hubby only, she'll have to see if she trully will be okay with a hubby who doesn't like or want to hug. So lets say you are my husband and I want you to make love tonight, and you don't want to. Should i rather you do it for me? even though you don't want to? Isn't that selfish of me to want you to do something you don't want to do? For what purpose? for my self interest? I rather you make love to me, when you also want to. And I guess I will wait until you want to, which I hope is soon. But if you don't make love to me for months, then we need to talk, but I am still responsible to how I respond and how I feel about it. You not wanting to make love to me should not determine my happiness. I will have feelings as a result but I'm still responsible in what my reality is around it. DO you understand? I think there is a difference between I am responsable for my own happiness And I am not responsable for anothers happiness the difference lies in the inherent attitude the first option is a healthy independence hopefully based in faith the second in my opinion is an unhealthy point of view based in selfishness and egoism |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think there is a difference between I am responsable for my own happiness And I am not responsable for anothers happiness the difference lies in the inherent attitude the first option is a healthy independence hopefully based in faith the second in my opinion is an unhealthy point of view based in selfishness and egoism |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally would not be involved emotionally with a person who did not care about my happiness and I wouldnt expect someone to be involved emotionally with me if I didnt care about their happiness its called give and take you dont give to expect to recieve but perfection is imo give and take |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30152926 United States03/12/2013 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And you never have been - and if someone thinks you are, move on. That's all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35978296 its really hard. i do feel responsible for everyones happiness. my boyfriend's, well, ex now...but i STILL feel responsible for his happiness. i feel like the guiltiest innocent person in the world. LOL. wait, i have a responsibility for my kids' happiness, right? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So lets take an example of a family where this is applied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35951339 the wife/mother husband/ father would not feel responsable for the happiness of any of its members thats my idea of a disfunctional nightmarish family my idea of a family is everyone puts evryone else first, love is shown and shared, lots of hugs and affection and yes others happiness comes first because when you truly love the happiness of your spouse and or children is your happiness how can you be happy if those you love care about are not happy? Okay, so we are talking about adults now, not children, because with children, they needs nurturing, care, and support while helping them set boundaries and limits through example and direction. Int he adult world, we are all supposed to be responsible for our happiness so nobody is expecting nor needing another to do something to make them happy. So if wife wants a hug and expressed she wants a hug, and husband doesn't want to hug her, wife is not going to oblige, and husband has a choice to hug or not hug. Wife has the responsibility to ask for a hug at a later time and if hubby wants later, then great, but if hubby keeps not wanting to hug, then it is wife's responsibility to see how she can get a hug from (a massage at a spa, her child, her mom, etc) and if that's not enough and she wants a hug from the hubby only, she'll have to see if she trully will be okay with a hubby who doesn't like or want to hug. So lets say you are my husband and I want you to make love tonight, and you don't want to. Should i rather you do it for me? even though you don't want to? Isn't that selfish of me to want you to do something you don't want to do? For what purpose? for my self interest? I rather you make love to me, when you also want to. And I guess I will wait until you want to, which I hope is soon. But if you don't make love to me for months, then we need to talk, but I am still responsible to how I respond and how I feel about it. You not wanting to make love to me should not determine my happiness. I will have feelings as a result but I'm still responsible in what my reality is around it. DO you understand? I think there is a difference between I am responsable for my own happiness And I am not responsable for anothers happiness the difference lies in the inherent attitude the first option is a healthy independence hopefully based in faith the second in my opinion is an unhealthy point of view based in selfishness and egoism the previous post I dont agree with appeared tagged to my post..mine is the end part. I just so dont agree with it I have to point that out |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I come first...oh I am sooo special I am sooo in love with myself I am not responsable for anyone elses happiness God forbid..I simply am sooo busy loving myself yuK! the main reason why I am heading for the hills as soon as I can I despise this society more than I can convey Christ was all about putting others first He felt responsable of feeeding the hungry in spirit and body He loved I am disgusted with this society and its selfishness disgusted salvation? the kingdom comes within its not about loving yourself..oh I am so so so special"! its about loving others more than yourself Christs words as much as yourselves ..to love others as much do unto others as you would have them do to you if you make a mistake ok..but not based on deliberate intention to hurt another treat others as you would like to be treated sick society of too many people in love with themselves that lack the humility to recognize they are importtant only because God loves them yes I am disgusted very.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35703619  Japan03/12/2013 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Still, I sincerely want the people I love (especially my wife, mother, kids, and sister) to be happy. This is because I love them. And because I love them naturally and truly wish for their happiness, I am willing to go out of my way to take an active interest in their inner lives. To try to understand when they are unhappy and to make an effort to try to help them be happier. And I know they try to do the same for me. This is because we love each other. Such behavior seems spontaneous, natural, and to spring automarically from love, rather than enforced by some kind of external moral imperative, which is more what the word "responsibility" sounds like to me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7367792  Sweden03/12/2013 05:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally would not be involved emotionally with a person who did not care about my happiness Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35951339 and I wouldnt expect someone to be involved emotionally with me if I didnt care about their happiness its called give and take you dont give to expect to recieve but perfection is imo give and take I personally would not be involved emotionally with a person that expected me to "make" them happy. It's like a burden, you not only have to make yourself happy, but another person to. Happiness comes from within. You cannot make someone happy, and most of all, you cannot make someone happy, unless they want to be happy. Just because you aren't responsible, doesn't mean you don't give a damn. |
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| ^Isaac^ User ID: 22717382 United States03/12/2013 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I personally would not be involved emotionally with a person who did not care about my happiness Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35951339 and I wouldnt expect someone to be involved emotionally with me if I didnt care about their happiness its called give and take you dont give to expect to recieve but perfection is imo give and take I personally would not be involved emotionally with a person that expected me to "make" them happy. It's like a burden, you not only have to make yourself happy, but another person to. Happiness comes from within. You cannot make someone happy, and most of all, you cannot make someone happy, unless they want to be happy. Just because you aren't responsible, doesn't mean you don't give a damn. Agreed, such expectations show emotional immaturity. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Disguested with the elevation os Self beyond what is palatable The love of Self that has happened in the last say 8 to 10 years..where its just about me myself and I the implementation of this selfish way of living in the trash thrown at us via the box.. No ..its not for me.. Im off to the hills..just gearing up for it.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way He loved and lived Thats how we should try to be we can sugar coat it all we want and find lots of nice reasons but basically to not love and put others first to me is being an emotional cripple I love with all my being.. Love to me is Life I couldnt be any other way... I wouldnt want to |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35951339 Spain03/12/2013 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have nothing in common with your society and the way most of you live. I am disgusted. The inability of being happy and of making others happy the hedonism and narcisism the self sufficiency the lack of love flowing between people the inability of empathy I have made up my mind and its irrevocable i wash my hands totally totally there is and will be no turning back The way I see life is different and I will not change and become an empty emotional cripple like those I see around me I will love and love and love more I dont need to be loved in exchange but it is beautiful if I am To love in itself is a gift one should treasure |
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