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Global Atmospheric Electric Circuit, Cosmic Rays and Cloud Height

 
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Wow. Mainstream science is starting to embrace electric currents? They admit that space weather affects earthly weather? I must be dreaming; I thought these days would never come!
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They said this video came from the ISS studying water in space!

Well, go to 1:12 and tell me what you see.




Did you see the fluorescent lights? They are spread FAR to wide to be in the ISS.

This movie was filmed somewhere else, not the ISS. Cause there is not enough room to make a ceiling so large to hang florescent like that.
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Dam.....your right!
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How many lights do you see?
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How many florescent lights can you hang in space?

The lights are hanging in zero g.......not realistic at all.

Plus, the number of lights and the spread between them, extrapolated from the bubbles approx angle of reflection.

That video was recorded in a large area.

Question is....large area in space like a Moon Base or other space station we know nothing about.

OR.....the zero gravity is reproduced on the ground using technology we don't know of yet to the public.

I believe it is possible the zero-g was rendered artificially here on Earth.
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I said this shit over 10 years ago. No one listened!

High and Low pressure systems spin due to electric charges present in the air moving towards a unified region.

Basically, a large mass of air moving will induce a slight magnetic field and "twist" the atmosphere with the current movement.

Water vapor jumps to meet on coming positive charges from the ionosphere leeching towards Earth.

The charged water becomes the force which drives the air.




If you don't get it, that's okay. Too hard to explain even with a few pages.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


That's fascinating! Is there something more in depth that I could read about this? Or could you write a thread?

I really like EU stuff because it's highly intuitive and light on theoretical math.
 Quoting: skerry64



Not too much, a lot of my understanding is my own work from my own observations.


Imagine this, low pressure front, the air moves upwards in the center.

High pressure front the air moves down. The spin of the pressure fronts matches the electromagnetic spin moving electrons create.

The water in the atmosphere is unique in charge potential. It will align with localized charge potentials.

Charged water/air is pulled to the Earth (high pressure front). Ground water of opposite charge jumps up into the air to meet te descending positive charges (evaporations real engine).

When the charges neutralize each other, the water vapor looses the charge potential and now gravity is the dominant force on the water molecule. It will collect and fall as rain.

When the water vapor condenses, it releases heat and the heat makes the center of the low pressure front rise again.



This can be observed when the Sun hits Earth with lots of energy in a flare or CME, the number of high pressure fronts increases for a few days. Then low pressure fronts dominate to balance the offset.



More mysteries, why does lightening have 2 strokes if electricity can only travel in one direction during such polarity differences? The other energetic bolt is not electricity, it must be another energy that opposes electricity.
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Thanks Vol for all the informative posts.
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THANKS FOR THE SCIENCE POSTING, OP ! There are never enough for me.

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THANKS FOR THE SCIENCE POSTING, OP ! There are never enough for me.

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You are very welcome.
I have plenty of threads like this one.
Thread: Interstices - Spaces that Intervene Between Spaces
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Thanks for the response! This helps me visualise the whole system much better and why they keep messing with the weather.

I wonder when, if ever, we will see the type of lightning Mars received in a previous epoch.
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Good Morning Sept. How are you?
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Check this out. Browsing through some of this stuff, you can find the most interesting things.


The present-day studies in cloud physics and atmospheric electricity evolve from works started in 40s and 50s by I. M. Imyanitov, V. P. Kolokolov, L. G. Makhotkin, N. S. Shishkin, V. Ya. Nikandrov. This scientists made a major contribution to the research of spatial distribution of thunderstorm activity (for the purposes of hazardous weather warning), lightning electromagnetic pulse, cloud and fog electrification, thunderstorms, aircraft electrification in clouds of different type, electrical characteristics of the air; they also started theoretical, laboratory and field (including airborne) studies of convective clouds microstructure, precipitation, cloud formation conditions and dynamics, possibilities of weather control, methods and means of precipitation control with a view of forest fire extinction, numerical modeling of convective clouds and precipitation; organization of routine observations of atmospheric electricity; development of models of the atmospheric electrical processes; development of methods and instruments for surface and airborne atmospheric electricity measurements, and other applied studies.
 Quoting: Department of Cloud Physics and Atmospheric Electricity

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Good Morning Sept. How are you?
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Hey Brando. Doing great today.

You?
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I said this shit over 10 years ago. No one listened!

High and Low pressure systems spin due to electric charges present in the air moving towards a unified region.

Basically, a large mass of air moving will induce a slight magnetic field and "twist" the atmosphere with the current movement.

Water vapor jumps to meet on coming positive charges from the ionosphere leeching towards Earth.

The charged water becomes the force which drives the air.




If you don't get it, that's okay. Too hard to explain even with a few pages.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Doc said Friction
Eat, drink, and be merry,
for tomorrow,
you may die.
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Good Morning Sept. How are you?
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Hey Brando. Doing great today.

You?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I am great. I love this post! Do you watch 3 min news guy?
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Good Morning Sept. How are you?
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Hey Brando. Doing great today.

You?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I am great. I love this post! Do you watch 3 min news guy?
 Quoting: Metatron Phi


No. I don't have sound (and can't really watch vids) at work. And, by the time I get home, I either forget, or am too busy.
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Yep. Lightning affects Schumann resonance which affects earth temperature.

Save the world - unplug your toaster.
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Solar Snow!
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Reminds me of the Water Bridge experiment, where electricity can make water seem to defy gravity. Here, it is water droplets suspended in the sky, with electric currents running through the atmosphere.
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If Newton had observed the apple long enough he would have realized that it returned to the heavens. It is a two way universe. Things condense and fall but then they indeed do recede to the atomic form.

What falls will rise again.
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Another excellent find. Confirmation endorphins from the public on the EU. Five Stars! Thanks SS!

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Good Morning Sept. How are you?
 Quoting: Metatron Phi


Hey Brando. Doing great today.

You?
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I am great. I love this post! Do you watch 3 min news guy?
 Quoting: Metatron Phi


No. I don't have sound (and can't really watch vids) at work. And, by the time I get home, I either forget, or am too busy.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


He does a good job breaking all this down IMO.

These are current reading. You can see 3 hz induction.
[link to www.haarp.alaska.edu]

3 min news guy say plasma density from the sun has increased. Not by much, buy steady. Looks like the sun is waking a bit.



[link to www.youtube.com]
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well everything Tesla said was as most accept so we could have free energy an abundance of clean energy de-salinate the seas end pollution and clean this world up oh no two dead scientist's bet you
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Reminds me of the Water Bridge experiment, where electricity can make water seem to defy gravity. Here, it is water droplets suspended in the sky, with electric currents running through the atmosphere.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


If Newton had observed the apple long enough he would have realized that it returned to the heavens. It is a two way universe. Things condense and fall but then they indeed do recede to the atomic form.

What falls will rise again.
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The matter released drifts back into space unless interacted with. If intercepted by thought it can then be condensed back into an apple or what ever form the minds eye conceives. You must first realize that you can be the decider and the creator. We together construct the world and indeed the universe surrounding us.
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Obviously it will not materialize instantaneously the machines have to be constructed the dies made, but it does happen within a three to ten year period if enough energy is committed. I've seen it done.

Thank you SpaceDaily
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Obviously it will not materialize instantaneously the machines have to be constructed the dies made, but it does happen within a three to ten year period if enough energy is committed. I've seen it done.

Thank you SpaceDaily
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I ment Septenary Man for the OP
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Obviously it will not materialize instantaneously the machines have to be constructed the dies made, but it does happen within a three to ten year period if enough energy is committed. I've seen it done.

Thank you SpaceDaily
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I ment Septenary Man for the OP
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lol

No problem!
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Spew your knowledge OP..

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Spew your knowledge OP..

Paraphrase form
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Not right now. My boss is right behind me at work. I cant post anything too long.
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Wow. Mainstream science is starting to embrace electric currents? They admit that space weather affects earthly weather? I must be dreaming; I thought these days would never come!
 Quoting: skerry64


yep, they do all this, deperetly trying to '' keep some ''credibility '' '' loooool

But in fact, more & more of the positions taken in the media, by sheeple, those sheeple more&more will start waking up, to WHAT THEY REALLY DO... all the lies etc..

Many many of the media-servants think they just '' lie a little and its all ok, get big cash '' .. yep, but nope..

EVERY SOUL, right about now, on Earth, HAS ITS PURPOSE.>

Trust me, we are not here to enslave each other, but the opposite..

Yep, and many waking to this, in a perfect position to ruin plans of evil creatures..

More & more we will start seeing stuff like this, this is why I believe NAZA is doomed.. they will 'try' just discredit it on 100% ... even sieze to exist..

But for now, this looks nothing more, but '' oo we give you ''''more'' """ TRUTH """ '' ...

anyway, keep an eye on MSM, things gonna change faster

peace yoo hf
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the truth has been handed them on silver platters and they are ill equipped to receive

they've denigrated their stock in trade and their place within the truth of the matter

working hand over fist to get er done...

that just about says it all with regard to the future of their Fate

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