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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5229924 United Kingdom 03/13/2013 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | protip, the job centre is a private company paid for each person they get back into work. They are only paid if you take a job found directly through them though, you know, the ones with the number you have to call from within the job centre. They have no interest in actually helping you get a job you would be good at or enjoy; they are just trying to meet quotas. As for the payment for placment scheme, yes the money sucks but I think that's the governments way of getting the long term unemployed to actually try find a job. Why work 40 hours a week for your dole when 25 hours a week in any other job would make you twice that then some. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35832800 United Kingdom 03/13/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is essentially slave labour and if you look youll see that it was mostly huge companies who were getting in on the act (as if they havent got enough money already), although most of them pulled out once it became public and they realised that people disagreed with it and that their profits might be effected, therefore negating any benefits of the slave labour programme they had signed up to. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35832800 United Kingdom 03/13/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i didnt think this was allowed anymore since lots of people protested and that girl won that case against the government Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35832800 it is essentially slave labour and if you look youll see that it was mostly huge companies who were getting in on the act (as if they havent got enough money already), although most of them pulled out once it became public and they realised that people disagreed with it and that their profits might be effected, therefore negating any benefits of the slave labour programme they had signed up to. id like to be able to name and shame the companies who were involved, but the only one i can remember is tescos. im sure you can find the rest somewhere online though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36089752 Germany 03/13/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jobcenter, sanctions, same shit The Hartz IV reform was voted in by the Bundestag on December 16, 2003 and by the Bundesrat on July 9, 2004; taking effect by January 1, 2005. This part of the reform brought together the former unemployment benefits for long term unemployed ('Arbeitslosenhilfe') and the welfare benefits ('Sozialhilfe'), leaving them both at approximately the lower level of the former 'Sozialhilfe'. The current (September 2009) level for a single person is €374 per month (known as the Regelsatz, raised to €382 per month beginning 2013[1]) plus the cost of 'adequate' housing and health care. Couples can receive benefits for each partner including their children. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Prior to 2005, between 12 and 36 months (depending upon the claimant's age and work history) of their full unemployment benefit (60 to 67% of the previous net salary) were followed by Arbeitslosenhilfe (unemployment assistance, 53 to 57% of the last net salary). Since 2008, eligibility for the full unemployment benefit (renamed Arbeitslosengeld in 2005 and commonly referred to as Arbeitslosengeld I in everyday German to contrast it with the lower benefits discussed below), has been restricted to 12 months in general, 15 months for those aged 50 or older, 18 months for those 55 or older and 24 months for those 58 or older. This is now followed by (usually much lower) Arbeitslosengeld II (Hartz IV) benefits if the claimant meets the requirements (see next paragraph). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36089752 Germany 03/13/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is a 1:1 copy of the new german 'Arbeitslosengeld II' which was introduced in 2005 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36089752 Jobcenter, sanctions, same shit The Hartz IV reform was voted in by the Bundestag on December 16, 2003 and by the Bundesrat on July 9, 2004; taking effect by January 1, 2005. This part of the reform brought together the former unemployment benefits for long term unemployed ('Arbeitslosenhilfe') and the welfare benefits ('Sozialhilfe'), leaving them both at approximately the lower level of the former 'Sozialhilfe'. The current (September 2009) level for a single person is €374 per month (known as the Regelsatz, raised to €382 per month beginning 2013[1]) plus the cost of 'adequate' housing and health care. Couples can receive benefits for each partner including their children. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Prior to 2005, between 12 and 36 months (depending upon the claimant's age and work history) of their full unemployment benefit (60 to 67% of the previous net salary) were followed by Arbeitslosenhilfe (unemployment assistance, 53 to 57% of the last net salary). Since 2008, eligibility for the full unemployment benefit (renamed Arbeitslosengeld in 2005 and commonly referred to as Arbeitslosengeld I in everyday German to contrast it with the lower benefits discussed below), has been restricted to 12 months in general, 15 months for those aged 50 or older, 18 months for those 55 or older and 24 months for those 58 or older. This is now followed by (usually much lower) Arbeitslosengeld II (Hartz IV) benefits if the claimant meets the requirements (see next paragraph). correct me if i'm wrong, although it seems similiar |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36089752 Germany 03/13/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here in England we have a government institution called the Job Centre where you claim unemployment benefit. Now you go here every 2 weeks, show them a list of jobs you've applied for and they give you money. But there's a catch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35835869 The longer you stay on, the more you become their bitch. First they start inviting you to meetings with them, do a jobs search (they have no extra resources to finding a job than you do at home), these occur every month or so and they're annoying. After a while, you get put onto a program called 'workfare' where you literally work 40 hour weeks for big chain outlets for your benefit. This works out at £1.70 per hour ($2.50) at tax payer expense. If you refuse to do this then they sanction you. WTF. If a company needs someone, EMPLOY them you cunts. Fucking socialists have done this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35832800 United Kingdom 03/13/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is a 1:1 copy of the new german 'Arbeitslosengeld II' which was introduced in 2005 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36089752 Jobcenter, sanctions, same shit The Hartz IV reform was voted in by the Bundestag on December 16, 2003 and by the Bundesrat on July 9, 2004; taking effect by January 1, 2005. This part of the reform brought together the former unemployment benefits for long term unemployed ('Arbeitslosenhilfe') and the welfare benefits ('Sozialhilfe'), leaving them both at approximately the lower level of the former 'Sozialhilfe'. The current (September 2009) level for a single person is €374 per month (known as the Regelsatz, raised to €382 per month beginning 2013[1]) plus the cost of 'adequate' housing and health care. Couples can receive benefits for each partner including their children. Quoting: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Prior to 2005, between 12 and 36 months (depending upon the claimant's age and work history) of their full unemployment benefit (60 to 67% of the previous net salary) were followed by Arbeitslosenhilfe (unemployment assistance, 53 to 57% of the last net salary). Since 2008, eligibility for the full unemployment benefit (renamed Arbeitslosengeld in 2005 and commonly referred to as Arbeitslosengeld I in everyday German to contrast it with the lower benefits discussed below), has been restricted to 12 months in general, 15 months for those aged 50 or older, 18 months for those 55 or older and 24 months for those 58 or older. This is now followed by (usually much lower) Arbeitslosengeld II (Hartz IV) benefits if the claimant meets the requirements (see next paragraph). correct me if i'm wrong, although it seems similiar it looks basically like the same thing. the longer you are out of work, the more they can legally treat you like a piece of shit and make you jump through hoops to get your measly little bit of money to survive on. meanwhile corrupt MPs exploit the expenses system with impunity and use tax payers money to buy thousands of pounds of luxuries! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25299058 United Kingdom 03/31/2013 05:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i didnt think this was allowed anymore since lots of people protested and that girl won that case against the government Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35832800 it is essentially slave labour and if you look youll see that it was mostly huge companies who were getting in on the act (as if they havent got enough money already), although most of them pulled out once it became public and they realised that people disagreed with it and that their profits might be effected, therefore negating any benefits of the slave labour programme they had signed up to. girl won that case against the government ??? Any more info please |
Master X User ID: 35672590 United Kingdom 03/31/2013 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So basically, you get next to nothing anyway, then you get put on a scheme that takes away all your time and energy, wastes your money on travel expenses, and robs you of opportunities to get a real job THAT ACTUALLY PAYS. Probably one of the reasons so many people (that REALLY are ill) are failing their disability allowances, so they get put on JSA and are forced to do workfare. And this will always be abused by the chain stores and other stores because well, free workers...? Better profits/bottom line? Which store wouldn't jump at that? |