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Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight

 
El Tiburon

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Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
First of all the Crusades are always referred to when any group wants to give an example of how "brutal" Christianity can be.

Catholics were responsible for the Crusades, not Christians.

Even today, Many Catholics will tell you outright that they are NOT CHRISTIAN, THEY ARE CATHOLIC...

There are several HUGE differences between Catholics and Christians and Catholicism while being more accepted is as different from Christianity as Mormonism.

Hell, even the Iranian President talks about the return of Jesus Christ and he is certainly NOT CHRISTIAN...

I am not trolling, I am certainly not against the Catholics.

But, when YOU talk about the Crusades, Please make sure you understand who was really behind them.
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03/13/2013 04:34 PM
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Hell, even the Iranian President talks about the return of Jesus Christ and he is certainly NOT CHRISTIAN...
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I saw this the other day, could you elaborate on it?
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03/13/2013 04:41 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
You're right. It's pathetic when one religion splinters off and becomes several, all while insisting it "wasn't them", who commuted these atrocities. Christians are not innocent buddy, but if that allows you to sleep well, so be it.
All several attacking each other on who's version of the same belief system is the accurate one. It is sad and pathetic.
So yeah, your 'faith' IS directly responsible. Deal with it.
Okay Ted Haggard? How's the meth and prostitutes?
El Tiburon (OP)

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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
You're right. It's pathetic when one religion splinters off and becomes several, all while insisting it "wasn't them", who commuted these atrocities. Christians are not innocent buddy, but if that allows you to sleep well, so be it.
All several attacking each other on who's version of the same belief system is the accurate one. It is sad and pathetic.
So yeah, your 'faith' IS directly responsible. Deal with it.
Okay Ted Haggard? How's the meth and prostitutes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225860


I'm agnostic "buddy"... I am just sick of the atheists and muslims bitching about the crusades.
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03/13/2013 08:06 PM
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It's amazing how many people believe that religion or christians in general, are responsible for the majority of war and death in history.
This cannot be acceptable to anyone with a gr. 8+ education.
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03/13/2013 08:10 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
You're right. It's pathetic when one religion splinters off and becomes several, all while insisting it "wasn't them", who commuted these atrocities. Christians are not innocent buddy, but if that allows you to sleep well, so be it.
All several attacking each other on who's version of the same belief system is the accurate one. It is sad and pathetic.
So yeah, your 'faith' IS directly responsible. Deal with it.
Okay Ted Haggard? How's the meth and prostitutes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225860


I'm agnostic "buddy"... I am just sick of the atheists and muslims bitching about the crusades.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The crusades happened, deal with it. Christians fought Muslims, deal with it. Christians caused suffering. Deal with it. Muslims caused suffering. Deal with it.


Agnostic...another word for pussy?
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03/13/2013 08:22 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
You're right. It's pathetic when one religion splinters off and becomes several, all while insisting it "wasn't them", who commuted these atrocities. Christians are not innocent buddy, but if that allows you to sleep well, so be it.
All several attacking each other on who's version of the same belief system is the accurate one. It is sad and pathetic.
So yeah, your 'faith' IS directly responsible. Deal with it.
Okay Ted Haggard? How's the meth and prostitutes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225860


I'm agnostic "buddy"... I am just sick of the atheists and muslims bitching about the crusades.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The crusades happened, deal with it. Christians fought Muslims, deal with it. Christians caused suffering. Deal with it. Muslims caused suffering. Deal with it.


Agnostic...another word for pussy?
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Why did the "christians" go to jerusalem in the first place? Who sent them?
Do you even know what israel is?
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03/13/2013 08:26 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
You're right. It's pathetic when one religion splinters off and becomes several, all while insisting it "wasn't them", who commuted these atrocities. Christians are not innocent buddy, but if that allows you to sleep well, so be it.
All several attacking each other on who's version of the same belief system is the accurate one. It is sad and pathetic.
So yeah, your 'faith' IS directly responsible. Deal with it.
Okay Ted Haggard? How's the meth and prostitutes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225860


I'm agnostic "buddy"... I am just sick of the atheists and muslims bitching about the crusades.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The crusades happened, deal with it. Christians fought Muslims, deal with it. Christians caused suffering. Deal with it. Muslims caused suffering. Deal with it.


Agnostic...another word for pussy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


Why did the "christians" go to jerusalem in the first place? Who sent them?
Do you even know what israel is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36122520


Look, I understand that you feel like you must distance yourself from the actions of barbarian Christians hundreds of years ago... by claiming they are "christians"... while I'm guessing you refer to yourself as a christian without the "...".

Israel is a nation.

Any other religious gibberish and nonsense you can just go right ahead and stick it up your ass where it came from. Only bring logic or bring nothing.
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03/13/2013 08:32 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
We are all agnostic in the sense that we do not know.
And we don't. We could use the argument for what created the universe, or the much better argument of the distance that light travels in order to measure the age of the universe, either way, we are left with the most fundamental questions. Questions that science seeks to answer. I see the attacks on modern science as an ignorant attempt to hide the truth, should it be found. Until then however, we don't have an answer. To pretend every Sunday fhat your religion has the answer is just ignorance.
Even the pope wrestles with these questions. As I'm sure everyone who's ever lived has also.
Until we have an answer it is futile to argue your case for one or the other. If it means that much to you, conduct an experiment that would prove once and for all the truth.. everything until then is moot and discourages the hunt for truth.
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I'm agnostic "buddy"... I am just sick of the atheists and muslims bitching about the crusades.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The crusades happened, deal with it. Christians fought Muslims, deal with it. Christians caused suffering. Deal with it. Muslims caused suffering. Deal with it.


Agnostic...another word for pussy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


Why did the "christians" go to jerusalem in the first place? Who sent them?
Do you even know what israel is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36122520


Look, I understand that you feel like you must distance yourself from the actions of barbarian Christians hundreds of years ago... by claiming they are "christians"... while I'm guessing you refer to yourself as a christian without the "...".

Israel is a nation.

Any other religious gibberish and nonsense you can just go right ahead and stick it up your ass where it came from. Only bring logic or bring nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


You can't answer because you don't know, then you go off with insults.
Anyways, Israel isn't a line drawn on a map. Read the book please
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03/13/2013 08:36 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
We are all agnostic in the sense that we do not know.
And we don't. We could use the argument for what created the universe, or the much better argument of the distance that light travels in order to measure the age of the universe, either way, we are left with the most fundamental questions. Questions that science seeks to answer. I see the attacks on modern science as an ignorant attempt to hide the truth, should it be found. Until then however, we don't have an answer. To pretend every Sunday fhat your religion has the answer is just ignorance.
Even the pope wrestles with these questions. As I'm sure everyone who's ever lived has also.
Until we have an answer it is futile to argue your case for one or the other. If it means that much to you, conduct an experiment that would prove once and for all the truth.. everything until then is moot and discourages the hunt for truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18225860


We are not all agnostic! We just don't know the spirit yet
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
Well, when you destroy holy sites you get an ass whoopin.
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03/13/2013 08:38 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
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The crusades happened, deal with it. Christians fought Muslims, deal with it. Christians caused suffering. Deal with it. Muslims caused suffering. Deal with it.


Agnostic...another word for pussy?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


Why did the "christians" go to jerusalem in the first place? Who sent them?
Do you even know what israel is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36122520


Look, I understand that you feel like you must distance yourself from the actions of barbarian Christians hundreds of years ago... by claiming they are "christians"... while I'm guessing you refer to yourself as a christian without the "...".

Israel is a nation.

Any other religious gibberish and nonsense you can just go right ahead and stick it up your ass where it came from. Only bring logic or bring nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


You can't answer because you don't know, then you go off with insults.
Anyways, Israel isn't a line drawn on a map. Read the book please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36122520


No, no. You did not understand what I typed. What you are talking about is Israel of the bible, which is, as stipulated, religious gibberish and nonsense.

Now please stick it back up your ass where that bullshit belongs.
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Why did the "christians" go to jerusalem in the first place? Who sent them?
Do you even know what israel is?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36122520


Look, I understand that you feel like you must distance yourself from the actions of barbarian Christians hundreds of years ago... by claiming they are "christians"... while I'm guessing you refer to yourself as a christian without the "...".

Israel is a nation.

Any other religious gibberish and nonsense you can just go right ahead and stick it up your ass where it came from. Only bring logic or bring nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935


You can't answer because you don't know, then you go off with insults.
Anyways, Israel isn't a line drawn on a map. Read the book please
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36122520


No, no. You did not understand what I typed. What you are talking about is Israel of the bible, which is, as stipulated, religious gibberish and nonsense.

Now please stick it back up your ass where that bullshit belongs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935



Israel is a secular nation period. Jesus was murdered there, and thats why it is considered a holy place for all.
But, for some, we take into account Gods' omniscience.
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03/13/2013 08:48 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
The Crusades were a fucking defensive war.
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03/13/2013 08:56 PM
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
Here is the thing. Poor Jesus's message was distorted. That distortion along with the stolen,powerful books from Judaism, spawned Christianity. Few hundred years later, the 'new testament' came out.

Lots of good and lots of bad have been done in the name of 'Christianity', if that's your club, you take both.

I mean, don't fly too far from the coop, surely there is some truth there. It takes truth to make lies.. but come on! Please, for the love of Jesus, do some investigating, it does not all fall under 'belief', you are 'allowed' to ask when and where and by WHOM, books of your bible were written......

Do you really think it is plausible that just about EVERYTHING else since 'written history' has been a lie EXCEPT Christianity????
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Re: Lets get something straight about the crusades.... Setting the Record Straight
Hell, even the Iranian President talks about the return of Jesus Christ and he is certainly NOT CHRISTIAN...
 Quoting: El Tiburon


I saw this the other day, could you elaborate on it?
 Quoting: Eunuchorn 17316639


I know that it is one of the signs of end-times for Muslims, freaky huh?? I think that there are 3.