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Pope Francis middle name means Peter

 
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Black Pope means Jesuit

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Saint Francis of Assisi, Italian San Francesco d’Assisi, baptized Giovanni, renamed Francesco, original name Francesco di Pietro di Bernardone


Pietro
pi(et)-ro\ as a boy's name is a variant of Pedro (Spanish, Portuguese) and Peter (Greek), and the meaning of Pietro is "rock"
Read more at [link to www.thinkbabynames.com]
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He is named Pope Francis after St. Francis Xavier (a famous Jesuit)... NOT St. Francis Assisi.

DOOM CANCELED. But I'm sure there will be some other extrememly week idea trying to make some connection to something that does not exist. By the way, the propahcy you are talking about is a proven fake... never written by St. Malachy. It was written way after him. It is spot on accurate through the time that they actually "found" the prophecy (the time it was actually written by someone else who said Malachy wrote it). All popes after it was written were not spot on and they make VERY LOOSE connections to the popes.
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An Alleged Description Of Christ's Manifestation The 1990 Prophecy

By Michael H. Brown

For your discernment



We submit the prophecy below for your discernment. We have mulled it over for more than ten years. It came in a dream. We think it may bear credibility. However, we are keeping certain details, including its source, anonymous for the time being. It quotes Jesus and occurred as a two-fold locution after a most unusual vision of an angel or young Jesus early in the morning of December 3, 1990:

"In four years there will arise a new evil the likes of which mankind has never before encountered. It will arrive almost imperceptibly, with few people noticing the depth of its evil, for it will appear to have beneficial and convenient aspects. It is an evil comparable to abortion -- that is to say, that even if evils as great and widespread as abortion were to be eliminated, this is enough of an evil that it would present mankind with an enormous challenge. This evil is being allowed as a test because of the prayers inspired by Mary to put off chastisements. How mankind responds to this new evil will determine the extent, length, and severity of the first chastisements. These chastisements will differ according to regions, and like the great evil, will not always or usually be immediately noticeable for what they are. In the period also will be a warning that involves not fire from the sky but fear of fire from the sky, and strange loud rumblings. This, according to mankind's response, will then be followed by another chastisement, or the inevitable onset of the change of era. Your era is ending. Soon the world will not be the world you know. I am not speaking of a barren world, or one depopulated, but of the end of your technological era. Many inventions of mankind will be broken down and there will be more of a peasant attitude and way of life everywhere. After this breakdown of false society will come persecution of Christians and also a new world order. The anti-christ will be on earth trying to affect the new world order. Hardly anyone will notice the extent of his influence until afterwards. He will not be of tremendous visibility until he is accomplished. That is to say, he will not rule, control, and be at all obvious to the world at the peak of his influence. He will not be unlike a figure such as Marx, except his ideas will be more immediate.

"I will come not as a man of flesh, but like My mother, who already nurses Me and holds Me in her arms, as a light and power. I will manifest Myself in a series of supernatural events similar to the apparitions but much more powerful. In other words, My second coming will be different than My first, and like My first, it will be spectacular to many but also unknown initially to many, or disbelieved. Yet truly I tell you, the arrogance of the world will have been broken, and so many more than normal will believe.

"I will come in towering light.

"My mother held me in her arms at Medjugorje, as an infant.

"I will come as she has come, in light.

"Know this about the world: I would not appear on television, nor ride a car, nor travel in an airplane.

"Would I come in such a manner?

"Would I live in such a world?

"You think of the changes in very simple ways, without realizing the fundamental mistakes of mankind.

"The very artifice of your societies is false and against the accordance of God's Will.

"This artifice shall not last.

"Your very conceptions of happiness and comforts are a great evil and falsity.

"They will not stand.

"My greatest nemesis is science, even more so than the media. The science that alters life, the science which creates a counterfeit heaven, the science that toils with the womb and genes, the science that has filled the air with the power of the enemy, the science which creates chemical witchcraft and fouls the earth, the science which seeks to create life but cannot in actuality even sustain it, the science which has denied God.

"This will fall, and all of its creations with it.

"The seat of Satan in America is north of San Francisco.

"New York City is under an evil cloud and will be for 12 years. Do not go there. The pride there will be broken.

"As for the anti-christ, remember Europe, and especially Central Europe.

"Yet know too that God's Hand will be evident in South America.

"The world will not end but change."


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Pete and repeat were on a boat, pete fell off who was left?
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An Alleged Description Of Christ's Manifestation The 1990 Prophecy

By Michael H. Brown

For your discernment



We submit the prophecy below for your discernment. We have mulled it over for more than ten years. It came in a dream. We think it may bear credibility. However, we are keeping certain details, including its source, anonymous for the time being. It quotes Jesus and occurred as a two-fold locution after a most unusual vision of an angel or young Jesus early in the morning of December 3, 1990:

"In four years there will arise a new evil the likes of which mankind has never before encountered. It will arrive almost imperceptibly, with few people noticing the depth of its evil, for it will appear to have beneficial and convenient aspects. It is an evil comparable to abortion -- that is to say, that even if evils as great and widespread as abortion were to be eliminated, this is enough of an evil that it would present mankind with an enormous challenge. This evil is being allowed as a test because of the prayers inspired by Mary to put off chastisements. How mankind responds to this new evil will determine the extent, length, and severity of the first chastisements. These chastisements will differ according to regions, and like the great evil, will not always or usually be immediately noticeable for what they are. In the period also will be a warning that involves not fire from the sky but fear of fire from the sky, and strange loud rumblings. This, according to mankind's response, will then be followed by another chastisement, or the inevitable onset of the change of era. Your era is ending. Soon the world will not be the world you know. I am not speaking of a barren world, or one depopulated, but of the end of your technological era. Many inventions of mankind will be broken down and there will be more of a peasant attitude and way of life everywhere. After this breakdown of false society will come persecution of Christians and also a new world order. The anti-christ will be on earth trying to affect the new world order. Hardly anyone will notice the extent of his influence until afterwards. He will not be of tremendous visibility until he is accomplished. That is to say, he will not rule, control, and be at all obvious to the world at the peak of his influence. He will not be unlike a figure such as Marx, except his ideas will be more immediate.

"I will come not as a man of flesh, but like My mother, who already nurses Me and holds Me in her arms, as a light and power. I will manifest Myself in a series of supernatural events similar to the apparitions but much more powerful. In other words, My second coming will be different than My first, and like My first, it will be spectacular to many but also unknown initially to many, or disbelieved. Yet truly I tell you, the arrogance of the world will have been broken, and so many more than normal will believe.

"I will come in towering light.

"My mother held me in her arms at Medjugorje, as an infant.

"I will come as she has come, in light.

"Know this about the world: I would not appear on television, nor ride a car, nor travel in an airplane.

"Would I come in such a manner?

"Would I live in such a world?

"You think of the changes in very simple ways, without realizing the fundamental mistakes of mankind.

"The very artifice of your societies is false and against the accordance of God's Will.

"This artifice shall not last.

"Your very conceptions of happiness and comforts are a great evil and falsity.

"They will not stand.

"My greatest nemesis is science, even more so than the media. The science that alters life, the science which creates a counterfeit heaven, the science that toils with the womb and genes, the science that has filled the air with the power of the enemy, the science which creates chemical witchcraft and fouls the earth, the science which seeks to create life but cannot in actuality even sustain it, the science which has denied God.

"This will fall, and all of its creations with it.

"The seat of Satan in America is north of San Francisco.

"New York City is under an evil cloud and will be for 12 years. Do not go there. The pride there will be broken.

"As for the anti-christ, remember Europe, and especially Central Europe.

"Yet know too that God's Hand will be evident in South America.

"The world will not end but change."


[link to www.spiritdaily.com]
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Pete and repeat were on a boat, pete fell off who was left?
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REPEAT!!!!!11
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Saint Francis of Assisi, Italian San Francesco d’Assisi, baptized Giovanni, renamed Francesco, original name Francesco di Pietro di Bernardone


Pietro
pi(et)-ro\ as a boy's name is a variant of Pedro (Spanish, Portuguese) and Peter (Greek), and the meaning of Pietro is "rock"
Read more at [link to www.thinkbabynames.com]
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sorry = it is a stretch. he was francesco SON OF pietro di bernardone
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pietro, pedro, peter etc is a very common name around the globe.

you are fucking retarded.

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I had a thought. What if the whole St. Malachy prophesy thing about "Peter the Roman", actually was a form of an analogy. For example, the first pope, St. Peter (I do believe), was the only pope to ever take and/or have that name. Now, we have the new pope, one whom has taken the name Francis...which is in fact, another name that has never been used at any other time. What if this is the situation...that perhaps St. Malachy was referring to the fact that the last pope would have a unique name---one which had never been used before?
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just when announced the name of new pope, the time(in vatican) change to 20:13...

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Why do you suggest that being a Jesuit makes the black pope connection? Enlighten me.
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pietro, pedro, peter etc is a very common name around the globe.

you are fucking retarded.

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Seems like your having a bad day..thanks for taking the time to post a response. I'm sure everyone will be glad to hear what you posted and glean from your well though out response. Please feel free to give us some more of your knowledge so we can ponder on it ...thanks
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Does the name Bergoglio have any meaning?

I'll note that GOG is in the middle.
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Berg = city, fortress, mound, mountain. (Think of peter the "rock" - "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

Oglio= Oglio River is in Rome.

There you have it, Peter the Roman.
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pietro, pedro, peter etc is a very common name around the globe.

you are fucking retarded.

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Seems like your having a bad day..thanks for taking the time to post a response. I'm sure everyone will be glad to hear what you posted and glean from your well though out response. Please feel free to give us some more of your knowledge so we can ponder on it ...thanks
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Does the name Bergoglio have any meaning?

I'll note that GOG is in the middle.
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Berg = city, fortress, mound, mountain. (Think of peter the "rock" - "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

Oglio= Oglio River is in Rome.

There you have it, Peter the Roman.
 Quoting: J&V


EXACTLY !
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In this case, the new pope took the name "Francis", which is directly a reference to Saint Francis of Assisi. Who's baptisimal name in english would translate to "Peter".
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"St. Francis of Assisi (Italian: Francesco d'Assisi, born Giovanni di Bernardone" [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Giovanni isn't Peter, it's JOHN.
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His middle name was Pietro, which is translated to Peter, in english.
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No, His fathers name was Pietro. The di in the name, in latin would mean of or from. In this case it would be Francesco OF Pietro Bernardone.

And his mother was not from Italy, she was French.




Saint Francis of Assisi, Italian San Francesco d’Assisi, baptized Giovanni, renamed Francesco, original name Francesco di Pietro di Bernardone


Francis of Assisi was one of seven children born to Pietro di Bernardone, a rich cloth merchant, and his wife Pica, about whom little is known except that she was originally from Provence, France.
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Saint Francis of Assisi, Italian San Francesco d’Assisi, baptized Giovanni, renamed Francesco, original name Francesco di Pietro di Bernardone


Pietro
pi(et)-ro\ as a boy's name is a variant of Pedro (Spanish, Portuguese) and Peter (Greek), and the meaning of Pietro is "rock"
Read more at [link to www.thinkbabynames.com]
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sorry = it is a stretch. he was francesco SON OF pietro di bernardone
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This.
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Maybe they should have been more concerned about prophesising all the child molesters rather than meanings of middle names of popes.
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From tom horn today:

RNN NOTE: That Bergoglio--the final Pope on St. Malachy's list and the one prophesied to reign over the church as it enters the Great Tribulation period--named himself after Saint Francis of Assisi is intriguing given that shortly before his death Assisi prophesied that at the time of the tribulation a man would "be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death… Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it…for in those days Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor, but a destroyer” [Works of the Seraphic Father St. Francis of Assisi (1182–1226), Washbourne, 1882 AD, 248].

Furthermore, in naming himself after Assisi, Bergoglio branded himself after an Italian priest whose original name was Francesco di Pietro (Peter) di Bernardone -- literally, Peter the Roman.
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Does the name Bergoglio have any meaning?

I'll note that GOG is in the middle.
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Berg = city, fortress, mound, mountain. (Think of peter the "rock" - "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

Oglio= Oglio River is in Rome.

There you have it, Peter the Roman.
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This is the best explanation I've seen yet. Thanks!!
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He has Italian ancestors so that makes him a ROMAN.
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hmmm

but Oglio River seems to be up, way up in Northern Italy. not anywhere near rome. take a look, see if i'm right.

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Cardinal Dolan says pope Francis toasts the cardinals at dinner and says to them " may god forgive you."
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Wikipedia;

During the missionary periods of North America, the various native peoples referred to Jesuits as "Blackrobes" because of their black cassocks.
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Why do you suggest that being a Jesuit makes the black pope connection? Enlighten me.
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Wikipedia:

During the missionary periods of North America, the various native peoples referred to Jesuits as "Blackrobes" because of their black cassocks.
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Does the name Bergoglio have any meaning?

I'll note that GOG is in the middle.
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BINGO...we have a winner. I thought I was the only one who saw this. Good Job!
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This is too much of a stretch, OP.

Saint Francis is the namesake. His first name alone was chosen.
As the pope did not select two names, he is only Francis.

Also, Assisi is not Rome.

You're making up too much. It doesn't work.

But the Jesuit thing is a closer match. It is a way of having the euphemism of "black pope" actually apply.
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It's actually a closer connection than Benedict whose connection to the prophecy of "Glory of the Olive" was his choosing the name Benedict due to an order in Europe whose symbol happened to be the olive.

So, it's not a stretch at all really. It's closer than the last pope.

I say prophecy fulfilled.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
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Does the name Bergoglio have any meaning?

I'll note that GOG is in the middle.
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BINGO...we have a winner. I thought I was the only one who saw this. Good Job!
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Yeah, noticed that, too.
"Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
Senator Robert F. Kennedy, June 6 1966 (South Africa address)
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San Francesco d'Assisi, nato Francesco Giovanni di Pietro Bernardone (Assisi, 26 settembre 1182[1] – Assisi, 3 ottobre 1226), è stato un religioso italiano.


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Just happened to think about the city of San Francisco and the fact that it contains Bohemian Grove. ohno

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the Prophecy [link to en.wikipedia.org]

the Black Pope [link to en.wikipedia.org]

"The Superior General of the Society of Jesus is the official title of the leader of the Society of Jesus—the Roman Catholic religious order, also known as the Jesuits. He is generally addressed as Father General. The position sometimes carries the derogatory nickname of the Black Pope, after his simple black priest's vestments, as contrasted to the white garb of the Pope."

St. Francis of Assisi [link to en.wikipedia.org]


..interesting!

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