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Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article

 
Zephyr
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Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed - the search function doesn't seem to be working yet, as far as trying to check.

A really long New Yorker article which fills in quite a few timeline items--or, could, at least, if it's accurate:

Hopefully this link will work:

[link to go.galegroup.com]
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03/13/2013 10:46 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed - the search function doesn't seem to be working yet, as far as trying to check.

A really long New Yorker article which fills in quite a few timeline items--or, could, at least, if it's accurate:

Hopefully this link will work:

[link to go.galegroup.com]
 Quoting: Zephyr 36089857


Are you talking about the article written by Rachel Aviv?

That article was written to give skeptics "reasonable" explanations for the absence of pictures, interviews, and observations from Newtown Bee staffers who were at SHE from the beginning. In other words, as smooth as it is, it is still damage control. The New Yorker waited more than two months to say anything, and when they did they simply picked out some of the major unanswered questions and "answered" them.
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03/13/2013 11:29 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
Its asking for a login. Do you have an acoount with them or something?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
Its asking for a login. Do you have an acoount with them or something?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
bad link
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
Where is a link that works?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
That article, unfortunately, is behind a paywall.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
Hmm...I don't have a subscription, and the link I gave was to something that looked like an off-site copy of the original article. I'll see if I can find a better one, though it worked fine for me.
Zephyr
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03/14/2013 06:32 AM
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Bizarro - now it's asking me for a login, too.
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03/15/2013 07:15 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
yes :(

ask me for login too...

i think only pay user could have access to archive.
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03/15/2013 07:51 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
That's so bizarre. I have no subscription, and the article popped up in some kind of aggregator site, with full text. Now the link takes me to the paywall. The full text must be available somewhere...
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03/15/2013 08:04 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
Alright, I just clicked on the link again and this time it worked fine.

It's not the original New Yorker article, it's a text copy with references, stored at "General OneFile," whatever that is.

At any rate, I'm going to paste a copy into a WP doc and put it in the Sandy Hook folder:

bit DOT ly SLASH YwwBsE
Zephyr
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03/15/2013 08:09 AM
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Okay - it's a PDF, and it's now in the Public folder linked above.
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03/15/2013 08:17 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
I know someone pointed out that this article is full of disinformation - just want it to be available so we can read between the lines if possible.
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03/15/2013 08:17 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
I know someone pointed out that this article is full of disinformation - just want it to be available so we can read between the lines if possible.
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03/15/2013 08:43 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
What's the title of the article and I'll hunt down an alternate site for you so we can link it.
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03/15/2013 08:53 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
What's the title of the article and I'll hunt down an alternate site for you so we can link it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36230789


Thank you AC...I actually found it again and added a PDF of it to the public folder linked above.

The title is "Local Story," by Rachel Aviv, for the New Yorker.
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03/15/2013 09:07 AM
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
It's not the original New Yorker article, it's a text copy with references, stored at "General OneFile," whatever that is.
bit DOT ly SLASH YwwBsE
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THANX
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
PROPAGANDA IS NOT FREE
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
"Hicks, who is also a volunteer firefighter, walked to the scanner and listened long enough to conclude that someone had been shot in the foot."


we could date this sentence precisely! 9:43AM, no?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
and need to be compared with
[link to lightbox.time.com]

thanks very interesting article.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
the Newtown Bee (5 Church Hill Road) are 1,9 miles away.. 6 min google says.

ok, Hick was maybe there in 4 min... but maybe more if there is ambulances, cops and parents already coming.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
and need to be compared with
[link to lightbox.time.com]

thanks very interesting article.
 Quoting: Fred 31413939


The foot wound is not mentioned in the Time article you linked and a bullet wound to the foot couldn't be construed as a false alarm.

The New Yorker article was designed to "explain" some of the major problems with the Sandy Hook narrative. For example, why don't we have any pictures of the little girl running out covered in blood? The children who ran out of Soto's classroom? The broken glass? The hatchback with its doors open? Black sweatwhirts? Ted Varga and the teachers who escaped from a window? The hundreds of students and dozens of teachers being evacuated? Barbara Sibley and another mom hiding by the dumpster? The article is meant to be damage control by shifting the attention to the tender sensibilities of those who would be upset by seeing a limp child being carried or by descriptions of the anxiety of the victims' families.

In other words Aviv's article is ex post facto damage control.

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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
and need to be compared with
[link to lightbox.time.com]

thanks very interesting article.
 Quoting: Fred 31413939


The foot wound is not mentioned in the Time article you linked and a bullet wound to the foot couldn't be construed as a false alarm.

The New Yorker article was designed to "explain" some of the major problems with the Sandy Hook narrative. For example, why don't we have any pictures of the little girl running out covered in blood? The children who ran out of Soto's classroom? The broken glass? The hatchback with its doors open? Black sweatwhirts? Ted Varga and the teachers who escaped from a window? The hundreds of students and dozens of teachers being evacuated? Barbara Sibley and another mom hiding by the dumpster? The article is meant to be damage control by shifting the attention to the tender sensibilities of those who would be upset by seeing a limp child being carried or by descriptions of the anxiety of the victims' families.
 Quoting: Phylax


Well said.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
@ zephyr, phylax, bittercritter, blind squirel, emannuel, etc.

Let's set a time to chat at fred's place.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
"Hicks, who is also a volunteer firefighter, walked to the scanner and listened long enough to conclude that someone had been shot in the foot."


we could date this sentence precisely! 9:43AM, no?
 Quoting: Fred 31413939


Good catch, Fred!

Also, why don't we hear anything about the other child that died at the hospital? In all these stories, I've only read about 1 girl.
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
"Hicks, who is also a volunteer firefighter, walked to the scanner and listened long enough to conclude that someone had been shot in the foot."


we could date this sentence precisely! 9:43AM, no?
 Quoting: Fred 31413939


Good catch, Fred!

Also, why don't we hear anything about the other child that died at the hospital? In all these stories, I've only read about 1 girl.
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why this thread come directly to 2nd page?
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
it become difficult to be on this popular forum... bump
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Re: Sandy Hook: Very detailed New Yorker article
you could find the newyorker article here

[link to go.galegroup.com]

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