So what is wrong with being a Mason?

in that little black book the gave you

what does S.W AND J.W mean ?

They gave me a Bible. Senior Warden and Junior Warden.

W.M

nothing at all, you know its strange because i hated fraternity and all of it's members until i did my own research and stop reading the BS of others, seek that knowledge which will free you from your bonds of the material world, this knowledge, and so it is my hope that you become and esoteric mason....

Worshipful Master... is this a test?

finish this creed

which of course is at the start of that little black book i speak of, which of course is given to ALL MASONS

i hearby agree to receive "the work" upon the following terms, to which i solemnly promise strict adherance.



what is said next my friend?
in "the work"

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OP, just curious about how old you are, i guess early 30s?

Close to 40

To many faggy titles & schoolgirl rituals for a bunch of overinflated egomaniac megalomaniac old men.

That's masonry in a nutshell.

are you going to finish what i asked you?

the next paragraph is

That i fully realize and will always remeber that this is no ordinary book but is one which contains material which is intended solely and exclusively for those fully qualified and entitled to possess and to read it.




please continue this for me.. if your a msaon

Cool story but its nothing more!

shhhh... lol

i have called him out on the bullshit
he is now frantically looking on the net for the rest of my riddle to him, which of course if he were an actual MASON
he would grab the book of which i speak about, (not the bible) and he would finish it.


i call

You do know that NOTHING secret is printed. Only transferred by the instructive tongue to the attentive ear.
I googled your quote, only hits are David dIcke and another conspiracy site.
These are the ritual books given to me, they are in code, since nothing is to ever be printer so that it could be read by a non Mason.
[link to s8.postimage.org]

why would you have him finish something that only the elect should hear, if your gonna check him not here man.

LMAO



continue on my friend



google

"the work"

OP -

Masonry is compartmentalized.

Imagine the Pyramid, Within the pyramid there are many sub-pyramids. Some of these sub-pyramids are closed systems, meaning the top of it is a glass ceiling that none shall pass, while other sub-pyramids are recruitment pods for the greater pyramid with access to the true top.

"The sky is the limit" I think comes from this structure.

For 99% of the population who begins a life of Masonry, they will be limited to a little sub-pyramid of their local lodges where useless or counterfeit degrees are issued freely and monthly pancake breakfasts are issued to the public.

The secrets are not revealed to these types, or if they pretend to issue secrets, they are benign secrets to maintain plausible deniablity.

- - -

When you set up a secret society, you quickly realize that you've accidentally initiated people who don't belong. So what you do next is set up another secret society consisting of members from the original one that prove to be trustworthy and fraternal while maintaining the front of the original so the undesirables believe that's all there is.

So, in the second ss you find out that the direction you want to go offends half of the people you thought were "cool with it" so you develop a 3rd ss and bring along only those who are aligned with what you're trying to accomplish.

Etc.

The only way to really penetrate into the real(er) masonry is to enter into local politics where you may get noticed and selected for greater purposes. For this you will probably need to go to law school, where the Ivy-League Masons will grab you and initiate you into better lodges in the first place.

Nothing is wrong with it.

Are you a Mason? I would presume not, because if you were a Mason, and if you were in possession of something only a Mason would know, like information from a "Secret Book", then by printing that here, you would be in violation of your Entered Apprentice Obligation, the very first oath you took.
So it is safe to presume you are not a Mason. So you really believe that the stuff you read on the internet qualifies you to perform an examination of a Mason and determine his qualifications?
You sir are a joke.

Interesting. I can see this as a possibility.

I think Freemasons should be thrown out of airplanes at high altitudes without parachutes.

Due to their high levels of learning and evolution, they should survive the fall with no problems.

as you see my friend
i asked you to finish it for me, or at least add to which was written.


i did not "divulge' any important or secret info....lol



and for the record, i am NOT a mason

i am just knowledgeable of my surroundings and very eager to learn as much as possible as i possibly can before i cannot any longer.

and yes its safe to say i am in possession of things that others are not.

it apart of gaining knowledge, right....lol

to be selected for the higher order, does not mean politics, to be selected for these orders, you need to have your ego on a leash, and have surpassed the lower parts of yourself, politics will get you nowhere in masonry, and that's why they have outer orders to keep these people, from that knowledge that would be used wrongly by the ego

I can see this as relevant more so than the political end.

My thought is that it depends on the brother. One brother can advance one way, and another advances another way.

One advances through the chairs, while one advances through knowledge and experience base, and another through contacts he has made. Etc.

this guy knows something ^^

I think to suggest that Politics and True Masonry (TM) are not in-line with one another is a little, well, either naive or very ignorant.

Politicians
Lawyers
Judges
Police Chiefs
FBI
CIA
Military Brass and NCO leadership
Physicians
Clergy
Royalty

Basically, anyone who has any input in shaping or controlling society involved with Masonry.

The more power you have, the more powerful of a lodge you are associated with.

Do you really think that Royalty, Rothschilds and the like are denied the true, innermost teachings of Masonry? They are the ones putting it to use.

two times

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I had an instructor once who told the class he was a former Mason. He said there are two basic teachings about Masonry, an open public teaching and a hidden private teaching. As a Mason advances he learns more about the hidden deeper secret teachings. He advanced to a very high level, maybe 32, but it almost cost him his personnal belief in Jesus Christ (he was a devote Hispanic Catholic, which he found laughable because he learned Catholism was playing the same game as the Masons).

What he learned was God to the Masons is also the Devil, the teaching of Hermes Trimegustis, Thoth, Egpytian theology, Solomon's Temple,etc, basically all of it really is the same being. All of which, at the end of it was a ritual to deny Jesus Christ, that whatever this Mason God is it wanted its members to deny Jesus (it takes place as the reenactment of the crucifixion and someone thrusting a spear, reenacted of course with a gesture, three times towards a person's side as an effigy of Christ). He couldn't do so he eventually quit, because he didn't want to go to hell. That's what he said.

I don't think anyone is saying that they are not aligned. At least, I am not. There is definitely politics going on, without a doubt. But, as far as advancing, it does not have to strictly be based on the politics, does it?

You can earn 32 degrees in a year?