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Pope FRANCIS I really is "PETER THE ROMAN"???

 
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What utter nonsense!

"Given the very accurate description of popes
up to 1590 and LACK OF ACCURACY after that year,
historians generally conclude that the alleged
prophecies are a fabrication written shortly
before they were published.
The Roman Catholic Church also dismisses them as
forgery." ---pope "prophecy" wiki

These cryptic phrases have to be stretched beyond
belief to fit ANY pope, after Malachy's time.

But the truly deceived will use anything it takes
to hammer square pegs into round holes in order
to justify their own delusions.
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What about the other evidence posted here, though?

Do you simply believe because some "historians" tell you there's nothing to it?

Are you by chance a debunker, who's already made up their min=d anyway?
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I believe he is Peter the Roman. Nothing is always on the surface and obvious, you just have to look below the surface to find the truth.

Good thread OP!
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Thanks... The connection is solid, just as solid as the previous connections.

The last Pope is now in play... Watch out! Time is Short!

I believe it won't be but a handful of years and we will see the destruction of Vatican city and the whore of Revelation 17 & 18.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


Yep, I believe!

dance
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Oh yes I understand, you believe in the last pope.

Well, so I dont believe he is the last one, only the title may be.

But there will be "through many tribulations" before the last in person of this title, I believe 6 trib's before the real one when Jesus comes back. Daniels's 70'th week is a Jubilee of weeks (week of weeks) as well as the ultimate last week of years (the 7th tribulation). 50 years from now? Hmmmm may be.
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Time is Short!!!
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Time is Short!!!
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i agree OP
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111 Gloria Olivae..............Benedict XVI
Without number -In psecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit.- (Here there is a dot)...Francesco (not one). He is the first Jesuit Pope ever and Jesuits were one of the most persecuted Catholic religious order last centuries since its foundation.
Of course, Jesuits helped many people in those countries where Catholic Church was persecuted or banned extremely.

After -In psecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit.- (without specific number) comes PETRUS ROMANUS (Tarcisio PIETRO Bertone was born in ROMANO, Italy) who fits the description exactly without vague connections.

Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis diruetur, et Iudex tremendus iudicabit populum suum. Finis....

Bertone betrayed Scola

OF COURSE, it would have been impossible that Bergoglio became Francis without the support of Bertone (he is still the Secretariat of State) because according to Italian reports Bergoglio won the Conclave with almost 90 votes.

I dont know if Bertone (78 years old) would be the next pope but (before, during and after the Conclave) his influence in the city of seven hills is greater than Francis even.

Francis does not belong to the Roman Curia and he does not know how it works.
BERgoglio NO!!
BERtone YES !!
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It's all a misunderstanding. The person we are waiting for is really Peter the Romanian.
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It's all a misunderstanding. The person we are waiting for is really Peter the Romanian.
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The Malachy prophecies are not just naming the actual names but title meanings and circumstances around the person to be Pope.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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[link to www.youtube.com]

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Youtube series by The Fuel Project-Know Your Enemy part 33 thru 37. Leaves no doubt about the Jesuit order's marching orders. The rest of this series is really great too.
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You are right as rain, O.P., he is Peter the Robot...
We are all domed for sure ....
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Youtube series by The Fuel Project-Know Your Enemy part 33 thru 37. Leaves no doubt about the Jesuit order's marching orders. The rest of this series is really great too.
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Whoa, thanks for that, i'll check it out
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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None of that really matters as we all know that St. Malachy has already been proven a false prophet with other failed prophecies, right along with this one as well. What matters is a plain "thus saith the Lord" and the Bible says the papacy is the antichrist power of the bible with a man at the head who runs it (that would be the pope). What his name is isn't important, they all have the same official title which is their official "name" and that is "Vicarius Filli Dei" which means the Vicar of Christ, which if you add the roman numerals equals 666. This is all that matters in the grand scheme of things. Of course one of them will eventually (with a lot of help from the false prophet, the United States) do evil things and pass unjust Sunday laws contrary to the plain word of God to usher in the very end of time that will commense with the enforcement of the mark of the beast (legislated Sunday worship) and the 7 last plagues falling on everyone who takes that mark (either by default by not caring about religious things and just wanting to continue to buy or sell, or by willingness because you buy into the lie and agree with the lie, or by force, with the threat of death if you don't take their evil mark). However, God's TRUE remnant people, those who really love God and keep ALL his commandments (including the 4th one that says to REMEMBER the SABBATH day and keep it holy, which is the SEVENTH day NOT the first) they won't be deceived, and they won't take the mark even with the threat of death. Reverance and obedience to God is most important to them than yielding to the powers that be.
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His papal name isn't Peter.

His given name isn't Peter.

He isn't from Rome.

Nobody has ever called him Peter the Roman except folks on this site after he was elected.

All this Peter the Roman stuff has been shoehorn logic.

And St. Malaky was full of it.
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His papal name isn't Peter.

His given name isn't Peter.

He isn't from Rome.

Nobody has ever called him Peter the Roman except folks on this site after he was elected.

All this Peter the Roman stuff has been shoehorn logic.

And St. Malaky was full of it.
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In the end the truth of the matter is he is probably the last Pope just as Obama is the last president.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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His papal name isn't Peter.

His given name isn't Peter.

He isn't from Rome.

Nobody has ever called him Peter the Roman except folks on this site after he was elected.

All this Peter the Roman stuff has been shoehorn logic.

And St. Malaky was full of it.
 Quoting: john1054


In the end the truth of the matter is he is probably the last Pope just as Obama is the last president.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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All popes are peter and romans.

Peter because they are successors of Peter and romans because they are the bishop of Rome.

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Look back at the #111 prediction of St Malachy… "Glory of the olive."

Why did this match Pope Benedict XVI? Olive was not in his name.. It's because the title the Pope chose was from the Benedictine order which is from Saint Benedict of Nursia, founder of the Benedictine Order, of which the Olivetans are one branch. So, Glory of the Olive!

So, as it seems the title and what it is based on is what the prediction is refering to, NOT in the actual name of the Pope himself...

So when we look at the #112 prediction...

"In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit. Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills [i.e. Rome] will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End."

Let’s dissect the title meaning shall we?

“PETRUS ROMANUS” or “Peter the Roman” – So the new Pope’s title (Francis I) is from Saint Francis of Assisi (Assisi is known for the “Rocca Maggiore“ or “Big Rock” or PETRUS) which started a movement (among others) of the Franciscans. The orders started by him were of great brotherhood and pasturing of others, feeding the sheep and the poor etc. This fits with Peter in this way considering what Jesus told Simon Peter…

“So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs. He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep. He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. “ - (John 21:15-17 KJV)


Also consider that Saint Francis did have “Pietro” as his birth middle name which is PETER.
Also consider that Peter is considered by the Roman Catholic Church to be the first Pope and so also this new Pope has many firsts

First Pope from the “New World” or Americas
First Pope with the name Francis
First time a Pope since Pope Lando of 913 had a name not used by a previous Pope
First Jesuit to be officially elected as Pope
First Pope from the Southern Hemisphere.
First Pope born outside Europe in 1,272 years
Etc.

He is also a Roman since his family is from Italy and his chosen name is based on an order created in Rome. Not only the fact that he is a Pope which is of the Roman Catholic Church (a Roman creation) but he is also a Jesuit which was ALSO based and created in Rome. He is a Roman through and through.

Watch out!

Time is short!
 Quoting: Veresanctus


He is also....

First Pope to breathe since yesterday.
First Pope to give a sermon since the last Pope.
First Pope to take a dump in the Vatican since last week.
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Peter the ROman:

st. francis is Francesco di Pietro(PETER) di Bernardone (baptized name giovanni)
st francis is Italian San Francesco d'Assisi
Francesco di Pietro[PETER] di Bernardone is an Italian Catholic

Pope Bergoglio chose the name St. Francis of Assisi
Pope Bergoglio born in argentina , hes father is Italian he is Italian by blood.

[PETER] the [ROMan]
prophecy did not say "SAINT(st.)" (st.peter) but just "Peter the roman" no 'st.'.
therefore Peter is a name and a position or similar
[PETER]=Every pope is Peter, from the original apostle Peter of Christ.
[Roman]=is italy/italian

that means,

[Peter] the [Roman] = [teacher/preacher/high priest] the [Italian]. Is Bargoglio Italian?YES. What is he now? A POPE
[Peter] the [Roman] = the [Italian] [teacher/preacher/high priest]. Is "St. Francis" Italian?YES Where is he now? In Rome


In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit. "Peter the Roman"
in short
In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit. "st.Francis the Roman"
which means
In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit. "An Italian(ROMAN) Pope"

"An Italian Pope" (PEter the roman), as predicted will emerge after the 7th king has fallen.
After the 7th king fall, is the new pope american,asian or italian?
Is the new pope Italian?
Did we follow it right, after the 7th king fell an Italian will emerge?

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