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WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013

 
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According to a presentation from the Athens Neutron Monitor Station, we had 6 G5 events between 1970 and 2003. Clearly, none were "killshots", since we're still here.

[link to 195.134.93.171]
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I'm sure there have been, not sure what your point is. Mine is that this will cause disturbances at best.

For you educational pleasure wink

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Just to say that a G5 does not represent a "killshot"
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So you are simply arguing semantics. Good for you wink
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With those trying to generate fear over these types of events, semantics are important, since they often rely on a general lack of understanding in their readers. Poor definitions help turn a lack of understanding into fear.
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I'm sure there have been, not sure what your point is. Mine is that this will cause disturbances at best.

For you educational pleasure wink

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Just to say that a G5 does not represent a "killshot"
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So you are simply arguing semantics. Good for you wink
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With those trying to generate fear over these types of events, semantics are important, since they often rely on a general lack of understanding in their readers. Poor definitions help turn a lack of understanding into fear.
 Quoting: phoomp

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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
Please, anyone wants the definitions of K & G level geomagnetic storms, minor - extreme please refer to this link, not the heresay of shilling trolls

[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Stop calling me that!!!
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Is it the same ac Everytime?
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Probably
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Well, I did coin "basshole" so I'd say we have a bit of history ;)

I do agree tho geo, it's pretty interesting. I don't really care if anything happens, I'm set either way it goes.
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For Sun-noobs: CMEs are not judged by the size of the solar flare that produced it! Most of the time M-class flares and filament eruptions can produce CMEs far bigger than X-class flares!! Look at the Enlil CME simulation, it looks pretty big!

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For Sun-noobs: CMEs are not judged by the size of the solar flare that produced it! Most of the time M-class flares and filament eruptions can produce CMEs far bigger than X-class flares!! Look at the Enlil CME simulation, it looks pretty big!
 Quoting: Solar Guardian

While this is true, the flare strength give us a rough idea (though that is thrown off by long duration moderate flares) there is no other way to measure a CME until it arrives. Enlil is just a rough guess based on observation of the eruption.
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
For Sun-noobs: CMEs are not judged by the size of the solar flare that produced it! Most of the time M-class flares and filament eruptions can produce CMEs far bigger than X-class flares!! Look at the Enlil CME simulation, it looks pretty big!
 Quoting: Solar Guardian

While this is true, the flare strength give us a rough idea (though that is thrown off by long duration moderate flares) there is no other way to measure a CME until it arrives. Enlil is just a rough guess based on observation of the eruption.
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Of course there is data to indicate the strength of an incoming CME, and what Enlil/ISWA base their predictions on wink


Such as this

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
For Sun-noobs: CMEs are not judged by the size of the solar flare that produced it! Most of the time M-class flares and filament eruptions can produce CMEs far bigger than X-class flares!! Look at the Enlil CME simulation, it looks pretty big!
 Quoting: Solar Guardian

While this is true, the flare strength give us a rough idea (though that is thrown off by long duration moderate flares) there is no other way to measure a CME until it arrives. Enlil is just a rough guess based on observation of the eruption.
 Quoting: phoomp


Of course there is data to indicate the strength of an incoming CME, and what Enlil/ISWA base their predictions on wink


Such as this

[link to www.sidc.oma.be]
 Quoting: TS66

So, what is the measured strength of this CME?
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
Cactus measures velocity and angle, as you can see on the site's key. Velocity is very important to the potential impact on earth and helps determine the impact simulations.

So not just the shot in the dark you claim.

You'll have to do some research on your own. I've given quite a few sites in the past 2 days that should at least get you off to good start. Your attitude sucks however, and you obviously know it all already, ergo, your ignorance will prevail.

However I will not allow disinfo be presented by you or anyone else as fact for those who really would like to know.

Have a nice day hf
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hmmm who to believe? It's significant, or it isn't? Grab a bug out bag or tin foil hat? hmmmm
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Watch for quakes, almost always follow these cmes.drevil
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
Update:
Space Weather Message:
"WATCH: Geomagnetic Storm Category G2 Predicted
Highest Storm Level Predicted by Day:
Mar 16: G1 (Minor) Mar 17: G2 (Moderate) Mar 18: None (Below G1)
THIS SUPERSEDES ANY/ALL PRIOR WATCHES IN EFFECT
Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power grid fluctuations can occur. High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms.
Spacecraft - Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes".
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
Wasn't able to look through all 11 pages of this, but did Astromut comment on this?

If not, paging Astromut!!!!
 Quoting: JanJan


No, but highly knowledgeable suntards like Shadasonic, Geomagnetic Storm, and Da Fuq have made several comments. I recommend reading what they've said.
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I consider my knowledge of solar activity much higher than the average, hence the avatar. A Kp index of 6 should be anticipated and auroras in the northern U.S. states should be seen. No proton event. No doom.

You can take this to the bank...
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It's simply amazing to me that some people can't enjoy the wonders of the sun unless they are fried by it ......
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hmmm who to believe? It's significant, or it isn't? Grab a bug out bag or tin foil hat? hmmmm
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Watch for quakes, almost always follow these cmes.
 Quoting: Captaininyourface

Any quakes? I mean, aside from the 3s, 4s and 5s that happen *every*day, CME or not.
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
NOAA Predicted:
Initial Speeds Predicted over 925km/s starting at 8pm UTC

NOAA's Prediction was too high:
Actual Measured Speeds got to the high 700km/s. The CME arrived 8 hrs late.
I say NOAA's Speed Prediction was over 150km/s too high

NOAA's predicted plasma density of 25 was also too high.

So yesterday's extreme "red alert" warnings based on NOAA's predictions were too high.

Note the jump to Kp6 this morning. Imagine if NOAA's predictions were good? Imagine if their predictions were low and we got hit with 1000km/s?! Keep up the good work everyone and Thank You! Data below.

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ACE Real-Time Solar Wind Pages
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (click play for actual measured data - last 12hrs)

WSA-Enlil Solar Wind Prediction
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov] (see 2013-03-16 20:00:00 prediction)

Kp Index
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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This OP should be banned from posting anything to do with the sun or at least a warning to tone down the subject titles.
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Re: WARNING ~ POSSIBLE KILLSHOT INCOMING?! ~ VERY LARGE CME BLAST headed THIS WAY NOW!!! ~ NASA WARNINGS in effect!! Friday 15th March 2013
So...anyone set to apologize to me now (Da Fuqq)?!?!?

Turned out to be a k6...barely lit up the middle of Canada with Aurora's...

No power outages, only light interference with some satellites, exactly what I said it would be...

Killshot my ass...
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Can I come out now ?!
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Can I come out now ?!
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GET BACK IN YOUR ROOM... and stay there!
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This OP should be banned from posting anything to do with the sun or at least a warning to tone down the subject titles.
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Wasn't able to look through all 11 pages of this, but did Astromut comment on this?

If not, paging Astromut!!!!
 Quoting: JanJan


No, but highly knowledgeable suntards like Shadasonic, Geomagnetic Storm, and Da Fuq have made several comments. I recommend reading what they've said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34388989


I consider my knowledge of solar activity much higher than the average, hence the avatar. A Kp index of 6 should be anticipated and auroras in the northern U.S. states should be seen. No proton event. No doom.

You can take this to the bank...
 Quoting: MARsSPEED


I said it from the beginning.....

[link to www.solarham.net]
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Whether Democrat or Republican, Fox, CNN, NBC are not in the game to tell you truth, they are in the game to make money. Always follow the money" #DYOR
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This OP should be banned from posting anything to do with the sun or at least a warning to tone down the subject titles.
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