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More HIV 'cured': first a baby, now 14 adults

 
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More HIV 'cured': first a baby, now 14 adults
Two weeks after the revelation that a baby has been "cured" of HIV, reports suggest that a similar treatment can cure some adults too. Early treatment seems crucial, but does not guarantee success.

Asier Sáez-Cirión of the Pasteur Institute's unit for regulation of retroviral infections in Paris analysed 70 people with HIV who had been treated with antiretroviral drugs (ARVs) between 35 days and 10 weeks after infection – much sooner than people are normally treated.

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Yeah mms, old news!
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Bad news for africa!
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When medical personal are accidently stuck with a needle they are sometimes put on such a course of medicine because there is evidence that it can stop HIV infections. Of course this is right away and a good number of times the medical personal are not infected but it is interesting.
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Bad news for africa!
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Only because most of the people infected are in advanced stages. It could help children infected by their mothers and adults who are newly infected.
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Not to be the one that pisses on the bonfire here but I believe this 'cure' is only getting so much attention because it involves drugs. All the drugs at once. I wonder how much it costs one treatment? There have been other cures, the bone marrow transplant method seemed far more effective.
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Not to be the one that pisses on the bonfire here but I believe this 'cure' is only getting so much attention because it involves drugs. All the drugs at once. I wonder how much it costs one treatment? There have been other cures, the bone marrow transplant method seemed far more effective.
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I AM LEGEND.
Though AIDS not cancer!
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Bad news for africa!
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Only because most of the people infected are in advanced stages. It could help children infected by their mothers and adults who are newly infected.
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he"s saying that because he is racist and doesnt want a cure.
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Prove to me HIV actually exists ???
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Bad news for africa!
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Only because most of the people infected are in advanced stages. It could help children infected by their mothers and adults who are newly infected.
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he"s saying that because he is racist and doesnt want a cure.
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Wouldn't matter anyway, once cured some negro will jump out from behind a bush and rape the person giving them AIDS all over again...at this point they're all just swapping AIDS back and forth...
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I AM LEGEND.
Though AIDS not cancer!
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This is about HIV, not aids
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Prove to me HIV actually exists ???
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Are you really that thick headed?
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if this is really can be cured we can have sex freely without afraid of HIV
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To "TheSuperMarket"

The origin of AIDS is somewhat disputed. It definitely exists but.... some fowl play is at hand. And a rise in homosexual sex is NOT the reason for a rise in certain stats.

mmmm...... Eugenics operation perhaps.
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Frequencies for Aids; search for programable frequency generators, key these in:
AIDS_1 (not for use in U.S. see HIV) - 2489, 465, 727, 787, 880, 1550, 1500, 1.2, 31000, 31750, 34750
AIDS_2 - 1.44, 1550, 1500, 249, 418, 727, 787, 880, 2489, 3100, 3175, 3475
AIDS_Kaposis_sarcoma (use Cancer_Kaposis_sarcoma)
AIDS_secondary (use 1113 for 12 min, 2128 for 16 min, 6121 for 21 min, 33 for 1 min) - 1113, 2128, 6121, 33
HIV (see also AIDS) - 683, 714, 3554, 830, 450
HIV_HC – 18172.28, 904.74
[link to www.frequencyrising.com]
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AIDS is auto-immune deficiency.... bark at as many trees.. you may find a lizard..........
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To "TheSuperMarket"

The origin of AIDS is somewhat disputed. It definitely exists but.... some fowl play is at hand. And a rise in homosexual sex is NOT the reason for a rise in certain stats.

mmmm...... Eugenics operation perhaps.
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As far as I know this started with germ warfare in Europe during ww2. Who ever created it, has a patend on it.
They arn't looking for cures, there making to much $$.
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Magic Johnson is still alive and was diagnosed in 1991
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HIV is an retro virus and is not the cause of aids. Hiv infections can be cured by a healthy imuunsystem within a week. Accoordiong to the discoverer of HIV (not the criminal Gallo).

Aids is not a decease it is a set of symptoms that changed over the years. Aids is caused by the AZT medicine.

Noone ever isolated HIV out of a patient. All the tests look for anti-bodies not the virus. Once there are anti-bodies present in the blood the virus is harmless.

There are 70 situations where you can have a false positive with an HIV test, like when your pregnant or just had the flu.

Never get yourself tested, once you have tested positive there is no turning back.

HIV and AIds are a hoax.
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if this is really can be cured we can have sex freely without afraid of HIV
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If you have a zapper: 30hz. this frequency will kill the virus among other things., so have all the sex you want then zap yourself from time to time. search ebay the sell for about $30.00
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I AM LEGEND.
Though AIDS not cancer!
 Quoting: EverybodysNobody


HIV (which causes AIDS, among other viruses) IS A CANCER VIRUS.

It is in the Leukemia/lymphoma/sarcoma family of retroviruses.
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I AM LEGEND.
Though AIDS not cancer!
 Quoting: EverybodysNobody


HIV (which causes AIDS, among other viruses) IS A CANCER VIRUS.

It is in the Leukemia/lymphoma/sarcoma family of retroviruses.
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"The 14 adults still have traces of HIV in their blood, but at such low levels that their body can naturally keep it in check without drugs."

Therefore it is not cured.
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HIV is an retro virus and is not the cause of aids. Hiv infections can be cured by a healthy imuunsystem within a week. Accoordiong to the discoverer of HIV (not the criminal Gallo).

Aids is not a decease it is a set of symptoms that changed over the years. Aids is caused by the AZT medicine.

Noone ever isolated HIV out of a patient. All the tests look for anti-bodies not the virus. Once there are anti-bodies present in the blood the virus is harmless.

There are 70 situations where you can have a false positive with an HIV test, like when your pregnant or just had the flu.

Never get yourself tested, once you have tested positive there is no turning back.

HIV and AIds are a hoax.
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CUT IT OUT WITH THIS HOAX/DEADLY LIE!!!

HIV is a retrovirus. It is in the leukemia/sarcoma/lymphoma family of viruses. It is closely related the human T-cell leukemia virus type 1 and type 2.

AIDS is "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome" (hence the acronym, AIDS). AIDS is a consequence of having your immune system destroyed. There are many things that can destroy your immune system, e.g., gamma radiation, HIV, non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, etc. But, HIV *IS* one of those things that can destroy your immune system and have a consequence of AIDS.

This UTTER BULLSHIT that HIV does not cause AIDS must stop. It is patently untrue. It is equivalent to saying you can go sit in a gamma-ray sauna and be fine. It will KILL YOU as dead as a hammer. So will HIV infection.

Fucking Netherland lying bastards. No wonder the Dutch no longer rule the world.
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HIV is an retro virus and is not the cause of aids. Hiv infections can be cured by a healthy imuunsystem within a week. Accoordiong to the discoverer of HIV (not the criminal Gallo).

Aids is not a decease it is a set of symptoms that changed over the years. Aids is caused by the AZT medicine.

Noone ever isolated HIV out of a patient. All the tests look for anti-bodies not the virus. Once there are anti-bodies present in the blood the virus is harmless.

There are 70 situations where you can have a false positive with an HIV test, like when your pregnant or just had the flu.

Never get yourself tested, once you have tested positive there is no turning back.

HIV and AIds are a hoax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


CUT IT OUT WITH THIS HOAX/DEADLY LIE!!!

HIV is a retrovirus. It is in the leukemia/sarcoma/lymphoma family of viruses. It is closely related the human T-cell leukemia virus type 1 and type 2.

AIDS is "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome" (hence the acronym, AIDS). AIDS is a consequence of having your immune system destroyed. There are many things that can destroy your immune system, e.g., gamma radiation, HIV, non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, etc. But, HIV *IS* one of those things that can destroy your immune system and have a consequence of AIDS.

This UTTER BULLSHIT that HIV does not cause AIDS must stop. It is patently untrue. It is equivalent to saying you can go sit in a gamma-ray sauna and be fine. It will KILL YOU as dead as a hammer. So will HIV infection.

Fucking Netherland lying bastards. No wonder the Dutch no longer rule the world.
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The anouncement in the 80 that HIV was the cause of aids was done without peer reviews. It is a hoax! There are no virusses that can make a distinction between sexes, race, sexual prefference or geographically position, which HIV claims to do.

There are no HIV test that can detect the HIV virus. You show me an HIV test that can point out the HIV virus.

Put your money where your mouth is.
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HIV is an retro virus and is not the cause of aids. Hiv infections can be cured by a healthy imuunsystem within a week. Accoordiong to the discoverer of HIV (not the criminal Gallo).

Aids is not a decease it is a set of symptoms that changed over the years. Aids is caused by the AZT medicine.

Noone ever isolated HIV out of a patient. All the tests look for anti-bodies not the virus. Once there are anti-bodies present in the blood the virus is harmless.

There are 70 situations where you can have a false positive with an HIV test, like when your pregnant or just had the flu.

Never get yourself tested, once you have tested positive there is no turning back.

HIV and AIds are a hoax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527598


CUT IT OUT WITH THIS HOAX/DEADLY LIE!!!

HIV is a retrovirus. It is in the leukemia/sarcoma/lymphoma family of viruses. It is closely related the human T-cell leukemia virus type 1 and type 2.

AIDS is "Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome" (hence the acronym, AIDS). AIDS is a consequence of having your immune system destroyed. There are many things that can destroy your immune system, e.g., gamma radiation, HIV, non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, etc. But, HIV *IS* one of those things that can destroy your immune system and have a consequence of AIDS.

This UTTER BULLSHIT that HIV does not cause AIDS must stop. It is patently untrue. It is equivalent to saying you can go sit in a gamma-ray sauna and be fine. It will KILL YOU as dead as a hammer. So will HIV infection.

Fucking Netherland lying bastards. No wonder the Dutch no longer rule the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5248308


Dr. de Harven writes:

"No, I do not think that HIV exists because I have never seen any acceptable scientific proof of its existence, especially in AIDS patients. All the claims to the contrary are opinions based on identification of so-called markers for HIV, all of which have been found to be non-specific to HIV. These non-specific markers include the enzyme reverse transcriptase (RT) and the antigen p24 which are commonly believed to be HIV specific but are in fact not.

"Moreover, since so-called HIV has never been purified (even according to HIV's original discoverer, Dr. Luc Montagnier), its specific RNA has never been actually identified nor sequenced. 'Viral loads' measured after PCR amplification are therefore not scientifically acceptable as the RNA or DNA they measure is only assumed to be specific genetic components of HIV, but have never been properly identified as such.


"Of course, I am quite familiar with the many reports on electron microscope (EM) pictures of 'HIV particles.' Indeed, these photos show particles which could very well be taken as retroviruses on the basis of their ultrastructure alone. But all these particles have only been found in complex cell cultures [blood added to culture dishes containing cancer cells and stimulated with various chemical agents], never in an AIDS patient.

"Even if there were an acceptable EM of an HIV isolate, it is not possible through EM to distinguish between exogenous and endogenous retroviruses [EXOGENOUS means derived or developed from external sources, having a cause external to the body; ENDOGENOUS means produced from within, originating within an organ or part]. HIV is believed to be an exogenous retrovirus, something that has yet to proved. It could very well be that these hyper-stimulated cell cultures release endogenous particles which have little, if anything, to do with the 'infection' of these cultures by an HIV positive patient's plasma or cells.

"Finally, it should be stressed that no researcher has ever succeeded in observing retroviral-looking particles in the plasma of HIV positive patients supposedly presenting with a high 'viral load' according to PCR measurements. "It is important to understand that electron microscopy is of practically no use to demonstrate the pathogenicity of HIV or other viruses, however, when the preliminary question is to find out whether a virus is present or absent, EM is probably the best method we have available, especially if appropriate methods for virus concentration and purification are used.

"The key question of whether retroviral particles are present in the blood plasma of positive patients presenting with high 'viral loadsÕ can be answered by EM research. If, in spite of adequate concentration attempts, the answer is no (actual virus particles are not present), this would carry important implications. If the answer is yes (virus particles are demonstrated to be present), then other non-EM methods would still have to be used to establish a possible pathogenic role for that virus."

With regard to your interest in knowing my thoughts, I agree with Dr. de Harven. While I am by no means an expert in EM, I have not seen any evidence that convinces me HIV has been isolated according to reasonable scientific standards. Also, if Montagnier or Gallo isolated HIV back in 1984, why hasn't the presence of virus been used as a gold standard to establish the true accuracy of HIV tests instead of the estimates, assumptions, and surrogate markers used today? If HIV can be readily isolated as so many AIDS proponents claim, why are there no validation studies of HIV tests found in the medical literature that use isolation as a gold standard? If antibody and DNA or RNA tests and co- cultures can be confirmed by HIV isolation, why are they confirmed instead by each other? And why the heck have no HIV tests ever been approved by the FDA for the purpose of diagnosing actual HIV infection if HIV infection can be confirmed by isolation?
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Re: More HIV 'cured': first a baby, now 14 adults
as an aside, viruses have never been proven....

you can have bacterial infection, fungal infections, hosts of others; a 'virus' is a nifty easy excuse of explaining the inexplicable, nothing survives (as clinically proven time and time again), outside of any biological entity.... interesting shit.....

there has yet to be proven a 'virus' that is mobile outside of a biological system (encapsulation).. it's simply not possible.. or if anything, rather strange or illogical science.....

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WATCH THIS AND LEARN
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Anyone know how HIV is detected in Africa? Not by testing.
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They did a lot in few years to cure the ill that potentially affect sinners and very little in far more years for the ill that mostly affect the innocents: maybe even exist a cure for the cancer but they will never "discover" it officially...

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