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Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric?
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Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine.
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Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol.
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So then does that mean they are two different orbital elements?

The first one being a miss you said? When did it miss?

And what about the second set of elements? Cause the poster wrote something like " t-9 days for the NEXT one?

Did this thread just get interesting???!!
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All i can do once again is say i am sorry that i had to provide this bad news.

The tv broadcast will be mid day tomorrow

Every station in the world will feature it

Thank you and Please, take care

Raymond
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It's midday here and NOTHIN. What do you get out of this silliness? You must be bored. I feel sorry for you.
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His calculations are very wrong, and they are based on INCORECT DATA

NOBODY in the world was tracking this object until less than 2 weeks ago....
he gets his data from other sources ie internet forums or nasa websites which update every month.

We will be providing the full data to the world on our live broadcast

Rest assured i am a man of the people, a man of honour in my hometown and i would NOT lie about this
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Were you molested as a child by your uncle (or is it the friend of your uncle, or brother of your aunt, or workplace colleague of your neighbor?) who's feeding you your inside information?

Tragic, absolutely tragic.
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Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric?
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Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine.
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Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol.
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So then does that mean they are two different orbital elements?

The first one being a miss you said? When did it miss?

And what about the second set of elements? Cause the poster wrote something like " t-9 days for the NEXT one?

Did this thread just get interesting???!!
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It missed yesterday. The second set can't be parsed, the epoch is too fucked up to the point of nonsensical. I wouldn't call it interesting, just that now I see what the hoaxer was trying to do. At least they tried to do something other than spit out random numbers into a TLE template (though the use of the TLE format to begin with demonstrates they don't know what they're doing), but they still failed to produce elements consistent with an earth impact, let alone an earth impact later this month.

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Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine.
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Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol.
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So then does that mean they are two different orbital elements?

The first one being a miss you said? When did it miss?

And what about the second set of elements? Cause the poster wrote something like " t-9 days for the NEXT one?

Did this thread just get interesting???!!
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It missed yesterday. The second set can't be parsed, the epoch is too fucked up to the point of nonsensical. I wouldn't call it interesting, just that now I see what the hoaxer was trying to do. At least they tried to do something other than spit out random numbers into a TLE template (though the use of the TLE format to begin with demonstrates they don't know what they're doing), but they still failed to produce elements consistent with an earth impact, let alone an earth impact later this month.
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A much more elaborate hoax than usual then, eh? Interesting.
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Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol.
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So then does that mean they are two different orbital elements?

The first one being a miss you said? When did it miss?

And what about the second set of elements? Cause the poster wrote something like " t-9 days for the NEXT one?

Did this thread just get interesting???!!
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It missed yesterday. The second set can't be parsed, the epoch is too fucked up to the point of nonsensical. I wouldn't call it interesting, just that now I see what the hoaxer was trying to do. At least they tried to do something other than spit out random numbers into a TLE template (though the use of the TLE format to begin with demonstrates they don't know what they're doing), but they still failed to produce elements consistent with an earth impact, let alone an earth impact later this month.
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A much more elaborate hoax than usual then, eh? Interesting.
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Again, I wouldn't call it "elaborate." Not quite brain dead, but close. Elaborate would be a whole different ballgame. I can think of a couple ways to do an elaborate hoax of this nature, but I've never seen it done. Let's just say it's a good thing I use my "powers" for good, not evil.
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Jesus on a Stick - is this thread still alive?

The OP was exposed days ago as a fucking idiot so why all the fuss?
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Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol.
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So then does that mean they are two different orbital elements?

The first one being a miss you said? When did it miss?

And what about the second set of elements? Cause the poster wrote something like " t-9 days for the NEXT one?

Did this thread just get interesting???!!
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It missed yesterday. The second set can't be parsed, the epoch is too fucked up to the point of nonsensical. I wouldn't call it interesting, just that now I see what the hoaxer was trying to do. At least they tried to do something other than spit out random numbers into a TLE template (though the use of the TLE format to begin with demonstrates they don't know what they're doing), but they still failed to produce elements consistent with an earth impact, let alone an earth impact later this month.
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So was the second set any chance of a typo? Those elements look really frickin complex!

Was he warning of one that just passed then warning about one the 25th?

From the date of his post plus 9 days = Mar 25th

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Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol.
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So then does that mean they are two different orbital elements?

The first one being a miss you said? When did it miss?

And what about the second set of elements? Cause the poster wrote something like " t-9 days for the NEXT one?

Did this thread just get interesting???!!
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It missed yesterday. The second set can't be parsed, the epoch is too fucked up to the point of nonsensical. I wouldn't call it interesting, just that now I see what the hoaxer was trying to do. At least they tried to do something other than spit out random numbers into a TLE template (though the use of the TLE format to begin with demonstrates they don't know what they're doing), but they still failed to produce elements consistent with an earth impact, let alone an earth impact later this month.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So was the second set any chance of a typo? Those elements look really frickin complex!

Was he warning of one that just passed then warning about one the 25th?

From the date of his post plus 9 days = Mar 25th

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559912


It's not just a simple typo like it was with the first one, the epoch of the elements is just completely screwed to the point of indecipherable. The elements were clearly put together by a moron who's unfamiliar with how to properly present asteroid orbits. They look complex because he used the tle format. Some of the numbers are clearly made up for the sake of simplicity in constructing an earth impacting orbit (or something close to it). Inclination and raan (or rather lan since it's actually heliocentric lol) in particular.
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All i can do once again is say i am sorry that i had to provide this bad news.

The tv broadcast will be mid day tomorrow

Every station in the world will feature it

Thank you and Please, take care

Raymond
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And if NOT then what we do?
Waiting more your instructions or

ahhh
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I've got a serious question!

If I have a dinghy and I put on all my hockey equipment and a gas mask, could I survive the impact? It would be really cool to see what my city looks like after being hit by some massive doom thing!
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All i can do once again is say i am sorry that i had to provide this bad news.

The tv broadcast will be mid day tomorrow

Every station in the world will feature it

Thank you and Please, take care

Raymond
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When are you going to post that data you promised?
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haven u heard the black guys aka secret services took him his computer??? with all ther


fuck this is to muchhhh
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Here's the follow-up video.

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so we having Astro also

failing data!!!!


this is geting interesting has we go !!!!
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Sounds like Bernard, eh.

So, Bernard, why are you into writing up these silly threads?

Stop carrying that burden, whatever it is:


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I've got a serious question!

If I have a dinghy and I put on all my hockey equipment and a gas mask, could I survive the impact? It would be really cool to see what my city looks like after being hit by some massive doom thing!
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I'm with Hockey Dude.

I'll ride the Curl on that Bitchin Super Wave of Doom in my dinghy.
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Nuke it then
Finally good use of nukes!!
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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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Thx for your work...

But now I am more concerned!

And sporting a doomy chubby!
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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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No. His second one is even more fucked up than the first, to the point it's not even something you can parse. You people keep missing the point. It's fake, the orbit is ridiculous, there is not a population of near earth asteroids that have aphelion distances between Uranus and Neptune with eccentricities just below 1. He constructed it to hit earth (and got close, but no cigar when taking into account things like relativity and the gravity of the planets) which is why he simplified things by setting inclination to an arbitrary and low value (0.005000 - yeah right .005000 exactly) and the longitude of ascending node to 0 exactly. It was a way of simplifying so all he'd have to worry about was a 2 dimensional situation. A real orbit determination would have some sort of real value there for the LAN, even if inclination were small (and the odds of inclination being that nice round number?). The second set given are even more ridiculous, an epoch of what exactly? It's so screwed up that it looks like it's saying January 1st 2000, in which case the epoch is hell and gone from the supposed impact date. But ok, you want me to run those numbers too with the assumption that I should parse it like it's some super-secret spy code, I'll do it.
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Okay the reason we have waited before making the announcement is because we have at this very moment, a trained team in space ready to try and blow the object up.

We will know in the next hour if they have been succesfful.

If not, an immediate television broadcast will be made
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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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No. His second one is even more fucked up than the first, to the point it's not even something you can parse. You people keep missing the point. It's fake, the orbit is ridiculous, there is not a population of near earth asteroids that have aphelion distances between Uranus and Neptune with eccentricities just below 1. He constructed it to hit earth (and got close, but no cigar when taking into account things like relativity and the gravity of the planets) which is why he simplified things by setting inclination to an arbitrary and low value (0.005000 - yeah right .005000 exactly) and the longitude of ascending node to 0 exactly. It was a way of simplifying so all he'd have to worry about was a 2 dimensional situation. A real orbit determination would have some sort of real value there for the LAN, even if inclination were small (and the odds of inclination being that nice round number?). The second set given are even more ridiculous, an epoch of what exactly? It's so screwed up that it looks like it's saying January 1st 2000, in which case the epoch is hell and gone from the supposed impact date. But ok, you want me to run those numbers too with the assumption that I should parse it like it's some super-secret spy code, I'll do it.
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So Mr.Astro are we officialy OFF DOOM then?hiding
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Okay the reason we have waited before making the announcement is because we have at this very moment, a trained team in space ready to try and blow the object up.

We will know in the next hour if they have been succesfful.

If not, an immediate television broadcast will be made
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I was wondering how you were going to manage to salvage this troll when the world didn't end.

So tell me, just how far out is this "team" when astronauts have been no further than the moon?
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Okay the reason we have waited before making the announcement is because we have at this very moment, a trained team in space ready to try and blow the object up.

We will know in the next hour if they have been succesfful.

If not, an immediate television broadcast will be made
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ooohhhh fuck U Raymond


fuck u triplets!!!!


u are dizguizing, missguiding and joking with us


the police should go on your back


ive been beliving u till now



why didntu mentioned this before?



u gonna be jailed... if u continue with this
do u know it?
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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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No. His second one is even more fucked up than the first, to the point it's not even something you can parse. You people keep missing the point. It's fake, the orbit is ridiculous, there is not a population of near earth asteroids that have aphelion distances between Uranus and Neptune with eccentricities just below 1. He constructed it to hit earth (and got close, but no cigar when taking into account things like relativity and the gravity of the planets) which is why he simplified things by setting inclination to an arbitrary and low value (0.005000 - yeah right .005000 exactly) and the longitude of ascending node to 0 exactly. It was a way of simplifying so all he'd have to worry about was a 2 dimensional situation. A real orbit determination would have some sort of real value there for the LAN, even if inclination were small (and the odds of inclination being that nice round number?). The second set given are even more ridiculous, an epoch of what exactly? It's so screwed up that it looks like it's saying January 1st 2000, in which case the epoch is hell and gone from the supposed impact date. But ok, you want me to run those numbers too with the assumption that I should parse it like it's some super-secret spy code, I'll do it.
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Ahhhh. So doom off then. Well at least it was fun for a while.

ohyeah
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a lot of info has been shared on social web sites has face book


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wheres that LOve u said?


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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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No. His second one is even more fucked up than the first, to the point it's not even something you can parse. You people keep missing the point. It's fake, the orbit is ridiculous, there is not a population of near earth asteroids that have aphelion distances between Uranus and Neptune with eccentricities just below 1. He constructed it to hit earth (and got close, but no cigar when taking into account things like relativity and the gravity of the planets) which is why he simplified things by setting inclination to an arbitrary and low value (0.005000 - yeah right .005000 exactly) and the longitude of ascending node to 0 exactly. It was a way of simplifying so all he'd have to worry about was a 2 dimensional situation. A real orbit determination would have some sort of real value there for the LAN, even if inclination were small (and the odds of inclination being that nice round number?). The second set given are even more ridiculous, an epoch of what exactly? It's so screwed up that it looks like it's saying January 1st 2000, in which case the epoch is hell and gone from the supposed impact date. But ok, you want me to run those numbers too with the assumption that I should parse it like it's some super-secret spy code, I'll do it.
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I don't know why you keep debunking something that's already been debunked. Then you do a NEW thread and debunk this thread again. I think there's something the matter with you, namely that there's something the matter with you for not knowing there's something the matter with you.
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Here's the follow-up video.

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WOW!

Would he have given it in that format to throw TPTB off of his posting? i.e. they arent tooking for "TLE's" so he could post it without it being sniffed out?

And was he "showing" one that JUST missed then saying that the next one was a hit?
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No. His second one is even more fucked up than the first, to the point it's not even something you can parse. You people keep missing the point. It's fake, the orbit is ridiculous, there is not a population of near earth asteroids that have aphelion distances between Uranus and Neptune with eccentricities just below 1. He constructed it to hit earth (and got close, but no cigar when taking into account things like relativity and the gravity of the planets) which is why he simplified things by setting inclination to an arbitrary and low value (0.005000 - yeah right .005000 exactly) and the longitude of ascending node to 0 exactly. It was a way of simplifying so all he'd have to worry about was a 2 dimensional situation. A real orbit determination would have some sort of real value there for the LAN, even if inclination were small (and the odds of inclination being that nice round number?). The second set given are even more ridiculous, an epoch of what exactly? It's so screwed up that it looks like it's saying January 1st 2000, in which case the epoch is hell and gone from the supposed impact date. But ok, you want me to run those numbers too with the assumption that I should parse it like it's some super-secret spy code, I'll do it.
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Just a thought....

What if the epoch was changed to the mar 25 date. Am I sort of understanding this right?

Does that change anything? Is that how it works?
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Okay the reason we have waited before making the announcement is because we have at this very moment, a trained team in space ready to try and blow the object up.

We will know in the next hour if they have been succesfful.

If not, an immediate television broadcast will be made
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You sir, are pathetic to the point that I actually feel sorry for you.

Astro why feed the troll? Why bother?


It's time for this....pwned!!
Space, the final frontier...or is it?
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Something caused a universal time shift on Wednesday 13th March, something very extraordinary that must have a colossal mass to bend time. This could have been a super nova exploding or a black hole imploding, but the real problem is the shock wave that has yet to hit earth. My prediction is the wave will hit Tuesday over North America. Look for senates to be overseas on this day.


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