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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23559912 United States 03/17/2013 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23828900 Here even: 1 0 xxxxxxxx 0 1.49925925 0.00000000 xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx 0 07 2 0 359.8500 5.038200 9573872 93.55500 255.2880 0.000060689 07 astromut plz tell me that these are the orbital elements.Use your software and tell us. LOL! They're orbital elements alright... for an earth orbiting object. It's in two line element format, which is used exclusively for earth orbiting satellites, not asteroids. Only an idiot would try to describe the orbit of an asteroid using that format. He completely fucked it up too. The epoch number he gives in the first line is either nonsensical or simply missing numbers. For instance, the first set he gives does have an epoch set on March 25th IF you assume that the gap in the epoch number is supposed to be a 0. The second set he gives the epoch number is just nonsense. There's no number for the year and the day is 1.49925925, so in other words it's supposed to be halfway through the first day of the year, NOT March 25th as he claimed. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing at all. For the record, I integrated his first set of orbital elements over the course of a year. It's a highly elliptical orbit (eccentricity 0.9547277) with a large semi-major axis (158332826.847 km) and as such it is unstable and breaks free of earth. It started out orbiting earth but the gravity of the sun and planets dominates its trajectory over earth's gravity. Even after a year from today the object described by that orbit still does not hit us and in fact it's far from earth by that time. Its orbit has a MOID in excess of 7 LD a year from today. I'll do a video about it later. So here's the video, these orbital elements indicate the object is no threat to earth lol: Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 09:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It concerns comet ISON and the asteroids following it - yes, these have been confirmed, NOT the silly pixels, but the real things, at least 4. Of course, I can't confirm that on this site, as I'd have to mention the unmentionable which I just can't mention, otherwise I'd get banned again. Quoting: mclinking 35961410 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes that is what they do, they do not care about age, religion or what you have done for mankind.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward if you are ruining their `plan` they will kill you. And this is the same elite whove been running this planet to the ground for centuries. May i also please ask that you keep my friends out of this. Heinerich senior was a good friend and died for the cause of mankind, please dont cause futher anguish Thank you We will keep your friends and your MiB whore family out of this when you bring facts and evidence into it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23559912 United States 03/17/2013 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23828900 Here even: 1 0 xxxxxxxx 0 1.49925925 0.00000000 xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx 0 07 2 0 359.8500 5.038200 9573872 93.55500 255.2880 0.000060689 07 astromut plz tell me that these are the orbital elements.Use your software and tell us. LOL! They're orbital elements alright... for an earth orbiting object. It's in two line element format, which is used exclusively for earth orbiting satellites, not asteroids. Only an idiot would try to describe the orbit of an asteroid using that format. He completely fucked it up too. The epoch number he gives in the first line is either nonsensical or simply missing numbers. For instance, the first set he gives does have an epoch set on March 25th IF you assume that the gap in the epoch number is supposed to be a 0. The second set he gives the epoch number is just nonsense. There's no number for the year and the day is 1.49925925, so in other words it's supposed to be halfway through the first day of the year, NOT March 25th as he claimed. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing at all. For the record, I integrated his first set of orbital elements over the course of a year. It's a highly elliptical orbit (eccentricity 0.9547277) with a large semi-major axis (158332826.847 km) and as such it is unstable and breaks free of earth. It started out orbiting earth but the gravity of the sun and planets dominates its trajectory over earth's gravity. Even after a year from today the object described by that orbit still does not hit us and in fact it's far from earth by that time. Its orbit has a MOID in excess of 7 LD a year from today. I'll do a video about it later. So here's the video, these orbital elements indicate the object is no threat to earth lol: Great vid btw! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4914062 United States 03/17/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes that is what they do, they do not care about age, religion or what you have done for mankind.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward if you are ruining their `plan` they will kill you. And this is the same elite whove been running this planet to the ground for centuries. May i also please ask that you keep my friends out of this. Heinerich senior was a good friend and died for the cause of mankind, please dont cause futher anguish Thank you So what do you have to say for yourself after Asto's breakdown of you numbers?...Feeling kinda silly now arent ya. Why would you carry this hoax post on for so long? |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26766452 astromut plz tell me that these are the orbital elements.Use your software and tell us. LOL! They're orbital elements alright... for an earth orbiting object. It's in two line element format, which is used exclusively for earth orbiting satellites, not asteroids. Only an idiot would try to describe the orbit of an asteroid using that format. He completely fucked it up too. The epoch number he gives in the first line is either nonsensical or simply missing numbers. For instance, the first set he gives does have an epoch set on March 25th IF you assume that the gap in the epoch number is supposed to be a 0. The second set he gives the epoch number is just nonsense. There's no number for the year and the day is 1.49925925, so in other words it's supposed to be halfway through the first day of the year, NOT March 25th as he claimed. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing at all. For the record, I integrated his first set of orbital elements over the course of a year. It's a highly elliptical orbit (eccentricity 0.9547277) with a large semi-major axis (158332826.847 km) and as such it is unstable and breaks free of earth. It started out orbiting earth but the gravity of the sun and planets dominates its trajectory over earth's gravity. Even after a year from today the object described by that orbit still does not hit us and in fact it's far from earth by that time. Its orbit has a MOID in excess of 7 LD a year from today. I'll do a video about it later. So here's the video, these orbital elements indicate the object is no threat to earth lol: Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? TLE's are always in reference to earth. I could manually convert to standard keplerian elements and load them in as that if you like. |
Raymond Brown (OP) User ID: 10917219 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes that is what they do, they do not care about age, religion or what you have done for mankind.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward if you are ruining their `plan` they will kill you. And this is the same elite whove been running this planet to the ground for centuries. May i also please ask that you keep my friends out of this. Heinerich senior was a good friend and died for the cause of mankind, please dont cause futher anguish Thank you So what do you have to say for yourself after Asto's breakdown of you numbers?...Feeling kinda silly now arent ya. Why would you carry this hoax post on for so long? His calculations are very wrong, and they are based on INCORECT DATA NOBODY in the world was tracking this object until less than 2 weeks ago.... he gets his data from other sources ie internet forums or nasa websites which update every month. We will be providing the full data to the world on our live broadcast Rest assured i am a man of the people, a man of honour in my hometown and i would NOT lie about this |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes that is what they do, they do not care about age, religion or what you have done for mankind.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward if you are ruining their `plan` they will kill you. And this is the same elite whove been running this planet to the ground for centuries. May i also please ask that you keep my friends out of this. Heinerich senior was a good friend and died for the cause of mankind, please dont cause futher anguish Thank you So what do you have to say for yourself after Asto's breakdown of you numbers?...Feeling kinda silly now arent ya. Why would you carry this hoax post on for so long? His calculations are very wrong, and they are based on INCORECT DATA NOBODY in the world was tracking this object until less than 2 weeks ago.... he gets his data from other sources ie internet forums or nasa websites which update every month. We will be providing the full data to the world on our live broadcast Rest assured i am a man of the people, a man of honour in my hometown and i would NOT lie about this You mean the data you gave dipshit? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35884204 Germany 03/17/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes that is what they do, they do not care about age, religion or what you have done for mankind.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward if you are ruining their `plan` they will kill you. And this is the same elite whove been running this planet to the ground for centuries. May i also please ask that you keep my friends out of this. Heinerich senior was a good friend and died for the cause of mankind, please dont cause futher anguish Thank you Thanks Raymond, this post of yours confirmed it again :) Keep going ;O) btw, the catch was 1943 |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like this one, specifically, your thread. We will be providing the full data to the world on our live broadcast Quoting: raymondI just want to know, what cockamamie method did you use to create that TLE? Clearly the work of a moran, but I'd like to know what you did to so badly mutilate the formatting to the point that the second set of TLE's wasn't even parse-able. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559912 Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine. |
Raymond Brown (OP) User ID: 10917219 United Kingdom 03/17/2013 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have quit my job, and taken my kids out of school. We are leaving for Africa tommorow. I hope I did the right thing. We sold everything, because of this. Wish me luck! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34257118 Okay, the area you need to head for is isandlwana there are high mountains and caves there. Please private message me for any advice. The very best of luck to you and your entire family |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28948108 United States 03/17/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have quit my job, and taken my kids out of school. We are leaving for Africa tommorow. I hope I did the right thing. We sold everything, because of this. Wish me luck! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34257118 Okay, the area you need to head for is isandlwana there are high mountains and caves there. Please private message me for any advice. The very best of luck to you and your entire family A troll trolling a troll, hilarious. You realize that no one would quit their job and move based on the crap information you've given so far right? Have you figured out how to use photobucket yet? |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559912 Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine. Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol. Last Edited by Astromut on 03/17/2013 10:06 AM |
TastyThoughts User ID: 1308649 United States 03/17/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regardless of size or damage, a reported impact by MSM certainly would have it's effect on the , no? They would be like, Is this Baaahad? It may even godsmack a buttload of them. "They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts) "Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts) "Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts) |
Luk User ID: 36354497 Brazil 03/17/2013 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have quit my job, and taken my kids out of school. We are leaving for Africa tommorow. I hope I did the right thing. We sold everything, because of this. Wish me luck! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34257118 Okay, the area you need to head for is isandlwana there are high mountains and caves there. Please private message me for any advice. The very best of luck to you and your entire family Nice, now we have some history too, the site of the famous Battle of Isandlwana. |
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scimitar User ID: 27948466 United States 03/17/2013 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559912 Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine. Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol. Doesn't it aggrivate you to continuously have to play this game with people, or do you just have fun with it? Ominous regressions One Truth... many realities |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559912 Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine. Aha, that is definitely what was apparently meant by those screwed up TLE's. That does produce an "asteroid" that gets close to earth. At its closest, 15,000 km from earth's center, or a little less than 9000 km from the surface. Still a miss and a fail, but a much closer miss. The date and time of the miss would be 9.755 days prior to the epoch of the elements, in other words, it would have already hit us yesterday if it were going to hit lol. Doesn't it aggrivate you to continuously have to play this game with people, or do you just have fun with it? I like to have fun with it. I enjoy it the most when actual data is posted such as coordinates or orbital elements. Even fake data is fun to analyze and rip apart, and it gives me a chance to sharpen my analytical fangs. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 33360181 United States 03/17/2013 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can those be re-ran (so to speak) with an assumption that the orbital elements are using the sun as the center / reference point instead of the earth? Does that change anything. I.e. make it helio centric (is that the right term!) instead of earth centric? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23559912 Done on the conversion I mentioned, give me a few minutes to reboot into linux to check the result in ORSA. Forgive me if I don't render a whole new video about it though, takes forever on my machine. Ok, I lied, I decided to go ahead and render a whole new video about it since your hunch was correct. It'll take a few minutes to finish rendering, then a few more to upload. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 34257118 United States 03/17/2013 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All i can do once again is say i am sorry that i had to provide this bad news. Quoting: Raymond Brown 10917219 The tv broadcast will be mid day tomorrow Every station in the world will feature it Thank you and Please, take care Raymond When are you going to post that data you promised? As soon as he can find it on the net. |
mclinking User ID: 35961410 France 03/17/2013 10:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It concerns comet ISON and the asteroids following it - yes, these have been confirmed, NOT the silly pixels, but the real things, at least 4. Of course, I can't confirm that on this site, as I'd have to mention the unmentionable which I just can't mention, otherwise I'd get banned again. Quoting: mclinking 35961410 You're on the wrong site, mush. Last time I mentioned it, I got a warning in RED. The pixels have been removed, but the Italian image shows the asteroids as asteroids confirmed by REAL astronomers. Go and see for yourself. You know where to go. |