Judgmental Christians have been fooled by satan!

thats rather amazing -
not many posts cause that -
but i agree with every single word

..that is why He hates the Ego of a person
- not the Soul
but the Ego , which is so susceptible for being tricked by Evil, is what He desires to Die in a person

bless you

Are you not glad the only God can judger the heart?
Are you not glad tha God does not destroy the wheat with tares?
Are you not glad that God provided salvation to a race that can lie and deceive such as man?

PIN THIS!

GOD is not love!! Have you read the Bible? God commands his henchmen to kill infants and rip open pregnant women. He commands men to go into villages and tells them to kill men, women, children, infants and animals. He had men kill a man who simply picked up some sticks on a holy day. He is barbaric and cruel.

God created Satan. You are wrong about everything. Satan is simply a pawn in God's hands, one who will be burnt forever in a lake of fire that GOD created. Satan is not the evil character here. God is.

Aren't you all happy that the Bible is simply a barbaric book written by men who used it to control people. They went about killing men, women, children and infants and said that it was God who told them to do it. God is not real, so it was only these evil men who used this as an excuse for their barbarism. Satan is not real either so please chill out and stop believing in imaginary and invisible characters from a demented old story book. In other words, please grow up.

Important message so

So much wrong with this post, so I'll leave it to someone else to pick apart.
Please learn the facts before you talk about us! Thanks!

You make a few good points.

I realise that I've also been a bit of a hypocrite as of late. Though I believe that it's important that we correct each other as often as necessary, I agree that it should be done out of genuine care.

Realising and admitting is an important step, it takes a big person to see their own weaknesses.

Much love to you!

Actually everything is correct with that post. That's why Christians hate it.

This is called carrying the cross, and it was promised that it won't be easy.
You will be spit on, abused, or possibly even murdered for the belief.
It's tough, but he lives through our actions and words. Keep going, and do not get discouraged

^

A child is about to play with a lighter.

One person, says go ahead, and doesn't care the child will get hurt and burned.

Another person, out of love, states be careful, you can get burned.

Which person is more loving?

A person can warn and caution others out of love.

Now OP, some people do state, another may burn in hell out of spite.

But others, will warn out of love.

There's a difference, and this has to do with the true motivations and intentions of the person.

OP, I find you're extremely hypocritical. You talk about Jesus's message, about not judging, yet you continue to judge and making sweeping generalizations about Christians.

You don't know the people's hearts and motivations. Yes your right about some, but certainly not all. Also you make it seem like there's only a small exception of Christians, who live as Jesus taught. When again, you don't know the person's true motivations, nor what the person does throughout the week, that you don't see.

In your personal experience, you may find and come across more 'hate-filled' Christians, but seeing your own judgmental and negative attitude, I'm not so surprised. For example, if I approach, a group that belonged to a different race than mine, and told them, by my words (and non-verbal communication), that nearly everyone in their race, are hateful and ignorant. What do you think, their natural reaction is going to be? Some may try to be loving, despite me who first provoked them, but many may not be so nice. This is a natural human reaction.

So before you start being judgmental of others, look at your own judgmental approach, which provokes many others.


Regarding hell, it's not a doctrine, that Christians, just added.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. The word contempt, may be ambiguous, but 'everlasting' certainly sounds like a long time, and doesn't support the idea, that all people will be united in love and without judgement, as believed by many new agers.

And Jesus himself warned others:

Mathew 25:46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Was Jesus hateful, cruel, and spiteful, when he warned others of eternal punishment, or did he warn and caution them out of love?

Here's the difference between many Christians, and new agers / Universalists. The New Agers, by cherry picking verses, believe in only some words of Jesus, and will ignore the hell and punishment verses. A Christian, however believes in all the words of Jesus, both the messages of love, and punishment spoken by him.

If you have asked for one, you have one, and the work begins. Some have progressed more than others. Some are new and some continue to work from a previous life.


Because the new ones haven't progressed passed elementary understandings yet. YOU must trust the Lord will work his will within them in his own time. Do you doubt the ability of the Lord to effect change in those who call on him?

You have progressed beyond the need for attendence in beginner's church, unless you wish to council the newly Christed. However, your attitude towards them shows you're probably not a good fit for that calling, at this time.

They are made good and Holy by the cleansing blood of our Lord, not by your approval.




They are the hapless victims of Man's confusion of God's nature. This confusion has been going on since explusion from paradise.


How could you expect otherwise? If Christianity was so istantly magical that the entire body of it's followers become angelic saints overnight, the whole world would convert at once. It's not time for that right now, the world is not in the correct state of polarity for this to occur.



You're already soaking in it. Earth is currently Satan's Kingdom; Christians are merely given a key to get out of it.


So the story goes. We all have pride and hate while we reside in Satan's Kingdom.



Because they are new, confused, misled but at least they took a step in the right direction. Christ will sort it out from there.

Think of a new Christian as a person in a hot air balloon who just only lit the fire to heat the air. Eventually, it will lift and later it will soar high above the clouds, but it may take more than a mere 60 or so years that we have as adults in one lifetime to undo the Damage Satan has done to our young minds born into this sick world.



Again, it's Satan's Earth right now, so we can fully expect to see Satanic systems taking root in the most Christian of places over the 2000 years he's been away.


Hyperbole. You do not know what would make Satan wince. However, here's a clue: "Born again spirit filled" is deception. It is the difference between Romance and real love. The first one fades and you are left feeling empty and betrayed, disillusioned. The other comes from work and communication and isn't easy.

Again, Satan runs the show and these phony-baloney spirit filled people are responding to something Satan has programmed everyone to expect, mimic and brag about so they will discourage themselves and others when they fail. It's quite a clever strategy, really.

"Born Again" refers to reincarnation into a better, more spiritual circumstance to continue your work in grace.


Will you let him reach you without resorting to those tactics? That would be great! He's trying constantly, like the sun shines down from above, to reach you. It's totally up to you.

Rhetorical windbaggery.

Yes, I've already explained.

Yes, already explained. The only people who respond to these satanic tactics are very weak-minded, fearful individuals. Nevertheless, they will be reborn in Christ, not so weak-minded next time around. Better tools, beter Circumstances, better work done.

Pretty much, but if you've got Christ you have no fear of any of this.

Oh, totally!

Already explained.

God is not doing it, it is a cosmic situation. The laws that govern the Cosmos are not "created" they are something that simply are brought into existence by the very force of duality, itself. Where light and darkness meet a storm is formed, and that storm takes the shape of the Cosmos, a dance of light and dark.

The Earth is caught up in a spiral that will take it into the darkness, and any conciousness still attached to it will become denser and more entrapped in matter to the point where it is as fire and destruction. Those in that state can, simply, by their own choice, no longer be saved.

It's not God's fault and God is doing everything he can to reach you and throw you that lifeline back into the boat that takes you home.


He doesn't, so the question is moot.


Satan is a piece of God that fell into darkness and took other little pieces of God with him. In the process, we were seduced into allowing Satan to have dominion over us.

He is not the same being as God, though both exist within the same set of parenthesis but so does everything else.

Your second premise is on target.


You have to keep your terms straight. The current "God" of Earth is Satan, therefore "God" can be like that and we see this manifest everywhere someone is in charge of someone else.

The God of Love cannot reside or take part in a fallen planet. It's literally like a magnet that repulses another magnet.

The only way to get God's love into a fallen planet is through a trojan horse Avatar, such as Jesus Christ. The crucifixion of Jesus Christ was a transformative event that alters the polarity of a human being and causes that spirit to rise up like a hot air balloon, out of darkness.

Like a bubble of air at the bottom of the ocean, once formed, cannot be stopped from rising to the surface. It is transcendant.


See above re: answer(s)

You really do go on, don't you?

Keep spreading lies! Remember this conversation for future reference, ok?>

Biblically, "hell" or what would fit that description is BEING CUT OFF FROM THE FATHER for eternity.
Who was it; dante that cast the mold for "hell"?

Revelation 20:10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Mods can you edit the post so that it's quoted correctly? Above text was written by an Aussie A/C....

yes that is always the trap they fall in, once you begin to judge you quickly become that which you have judge and they even spell it out for them in the bible but they never learn


many examples of this in the world today terror bullshit would be one for a start

The Bible says" uselessly they do worship me with their lips, but their hearts are from me for they follow the commandments and doctrines of men...". The mainstream churches are deceived by the "god of this world...".

Partially correct, however...here's actual Biblical proof of righteous judgment. There's a difference.

Judging


If it's one thing we hear a lot these days it's "don't judge me" or "only God can judge". Are they correct??? What does God actually say on the matter??? Well, lets see what He says;


Leviticus 19:15
15) Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour.
KJV

1 Corinthians 2:15
15) But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

Isaiah 61:8
8) For I the Lord love judgment,

I hate robbery for burnt offering;

and I will direct their work in truth,

and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

John 7:24
24) Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Proverbs 21:3
3) To do justice and judgment

is more acceptable to the Lord than sacrifice.

Ezekiel 23:43-45
43) Then said I unto her that was old in adulteries, Will they now commit whoredoms with her, and she with them?

44) Yet they went in unto her, as they go in unto a woman that playeth the harlot: so went they in unto Aholah and unto Aholibah, the lewd women.

45) And the righteous men, they shall judge them after the manner of adulteresses, and after the manner of women that shed blood; because they are adulteresses, and blood is in their hands.

Isaiah 59:12-15
12) For our transgressions are multiplied before thee,

and our sins testify against us:

for our transgressions are with us;

and as for our iniquities, we know them;

13) In transgressing and lying against the Lord,

and departing away from our God,

speaking oppression and revolt,

conceiving and uttering from the heart words of falsehood.

14) And judgment is turned away backward,

and justice standeth afar off:

for truth is fallen in the street,

and equity cannot enter.

15) Yea, truth faileth;

and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey:

and the Lord saw it, and it displeased him

that there was no judgment.

1 Corinthians 6:2-4
2) Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?

3) Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

4) If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

1 Corinthians 5:9-13
9) I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

10) Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.

11) But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

12) For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

13) But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.


So then, we see that God has no problem whatsoever with RIGHTEOUS judgement and in fact, endorses righteous judgment. Furthermore, the followers of Christ (Holy Ghost having and led people) are told to do this;

Mark 16:15
15) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

2 Timothy 4:2-4
2) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

3) For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4) And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Titus 1:13
13) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

1 John 4:1-3
1) Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


So, if we preach the true Gospel, which is the truth;

John 17:17
17) Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

Then we are doing what Father wants of us. Now, being that the Word of God is the Truth, then it exposes the lies, the Light being shined unto the darkness. Also, if we are to try the spirits, to see if they are of God, then RIGHTEOUS judgement has to be used, for Father tells us;

Matthew 7:16-20
16) Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17) Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18) A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19) Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20) Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

So, that said, we will now move on to the Scripture that the unlearned, misinterpret and use to try and avoid righteous judgement;

Matthew 7:1-5
1) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

So, if the earlier Scriptures prove that God wants His people to judge righteously and preach the Gospel, then there is no way, that the people who cry "Do not judge me" or "Only God can judge me", can be correct. Then, this can only mean that God does not want people to be HYPOCRITES. As further proved by this;

Romans 2:1-11
1) Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

2) But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

3) And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

4) Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

5) But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6) Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7) To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8) But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9) Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

10) But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11) For there is no respect of persons with God.

For example, if I were to judge you for smoking and I did the exact same thing, I would then be doing unrighteous judgement and thus, I actually condemn myself for doing so.

The problem here, is that there are a bunch of people that are so self righteous, that they don't want to hear that they are in the wrong or that their works are evil;

Proverbs 21:2
2) Every way of a man is right in his own eyes:

but the Lord pondereth the hearts.

Father tells us;

Matthew 16:24
24) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

You can't deny yourself, if you think that you cannot be in the wrong or despise God correcting you, for we are told;

Hebrews: 12:5-14
5) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6) For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7) If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8) But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

9) Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

10) For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.

11) Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

12) Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;

13) And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

Therefore REJOICE, because Father loves you enough to take the time to show you the truth and the error of your ways, so that you may be able to some day serve Him in Spirit and in Truth. However, many will still despise righteous judgement, for they have too much pride (darkness) to want to hear the Truth or change and this is why Father said;

John 3:19-21
19) And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20) For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21) But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

If you hate the Truth, then you are doing nothing but condemning your own self to suffer God's wrath and to inherit the lake of fire with Satan and his minions.

To God be the glory!!!!!

Actually, your both confused and deceived. An invisible force "god particle" does exist or scientist would not be trying to duplicate "force" at CERN.

True Salvation: From The Word of God

Mark 16:16
16) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
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John 3:3-8
3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5) Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8) The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

John 20:22
22) And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
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Acts 2:38
38) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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Romans 8:9-14
9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10) And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11) But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12) Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14) For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
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1 John 3:24
24) And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
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1 John 5:7-8
7) For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8) And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


1 Corinthians 12:3
3) Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.


Ezekiel 36
25] Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

[26] A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

[27] And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

[28] And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.


Acts 10
44) While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45) And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46) For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

47) Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48) And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


Acts 8:37-40 KJV
37) And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38) And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39) And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

40) But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Cæsarea.


Acts 8:15-17 KJV

15) Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:

16) (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

17) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.


Acts 8:12 KJV

But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.


Acts 5:29-32 KJV

29) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

30) The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31) Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

32) And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.


Acts 4:29-31 KJV

29) And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

30) By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

31) And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.


Acts 2:1-4 KJV

1) And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2) And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3) And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4) And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


Acts
10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


Romans 5:3-11 KJV

3) And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

4) And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

5) And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

6) For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7) For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8) But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

9) Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10) For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

11) And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

One of the best posts ive seen in a long time!

Someone should really pin this!

"Well, as a Satanic Witch, I am somewhat hesitant to even discuss this issue. I will say this, Satan is the ultimate and only Higher-Power I do now, and possibly ever put any Faith in today. Christians are truely hyppocritcal, and Christ is essentially a liar!!!"

"THANK-YOU!!"

The new testament has been changed, but in my estimation this is a metaphor, not a physical place.
The bible is very cryptic in some areas
For example: "render onto caesar" (pay taxes)

This could mean a few things:
1) give the gov't what they ask for because this life is the only one they will have
2) added by greedy people to mislead the population
etc etc

I'm confused and deceived? How so?

lol at christians telling other christians, that they dont have a REAL relationship with jesus.

you're ALL pathetic.

this!