Help with a rescued farm/alpha dog.

That's not true. A lot of dogs can be rehabilitated. If the farm dog can thrive better in a one dog/one person foster home don't you think she deserves that?

Fill you weekend with "The Dog Whisperer" from youtube.

Also, I don't really understand the "farm dog" thing. I was raised on a farm with outdoor dogs, and now I live in a city. I can totally see our "farm dogs" adapting to the city. In the end it is still a dog.

In my opinion, a dog can move from one pack to another if YOU facilitate the change and YOU are in charge.

That's great if you have a big house/yard and take the steps to make it happen properly.

My problem is that I don't have that. This isn't a perfect case senerio. This is happeneing way way too fast and I need to know that it's possible. And if I'm doing what's best for these dogs. That's why I'm asking for help.

This is beyond bad & a HUGE no-no. The new farm dog, should not, under any circumstances, be on the bed or furniture. By being on your bed, she is claiming your personal space and bullying you and establishing dominance. Your city dog by refusing to get on the bed is doing this because the farm dog has threatened him. He is also letting you know that this is not okay and does not want to share the bed with the farm dog. You should really read 90% of the advice you've been given and follow it. Otherwise your city dog could be seriously injured or worse, killed.

She's been off after I read the comments.

I totally agree with the above. Also, is your farm dog wearing a leash inside? I would immediately put the dog on one and let the dog drag it around. It may lessen his feeling of dominance and it would give you more instant control over the dog if you need it. I would also have the farm dog muzzled until they learn to coexist together.

Yes, just leave the door always open, put a blanky over it, old rug inside and a pillow for humping for males...lol.

Good dogs know when they have done wrong and will seek it out when they do...or just go in when the house/situation is stressed. Trust me, most naturally love a safe/cave like place to retreat to. Should never be for punishment but for their safety only.

Mine is protective of front door/yard toward strangers and animals not in his pack; he will growl/bark when strangers approach our domain. I call him down after his alert...he goes to crate. It is safer for him with all the cop dog shooters out here lately.

You must become the Alpha. Pick the dog up by his dick and give him the stare down. He must realize that his life is in your hands and you can end it whenever you so please. If the dog tries to bite or be aggressive, ram your hand down it's throat until it's near choking to death.

Works great with unruly pitbulls.

Yes she's leashed. She's been off the bed since pretty much the first comment that said to get her off.

Do you think a muzzel would make her angry?

She's a girl.

FOOL. You have a little studio apartment and things were great and now two big dogs.

Way to go.

How old is Farm Dog and what breed is it...? Thats the most important part to figuring this out. Lets start there.

Please look back. The farm dog is 3. And the city dog is 1 1/2.

She has not bit you so I would not muzzle her nor would I beat her, alpha roll her, or corner her. These things only make a dog either more aggresive or more submissive; not positive either way.

Put her on NILF program and get a crate.

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My dog is very people pushy. NILF works above all other things I have tried.

This is not good. Farm dog is 3 and pretty set in her ways now. Used to having space and cruising all day outside where dogs are happy to be. Not couped up in a little apartment.

Do yourself and your other dog a favor. Find a new home for Farm. With room and a yard at least.

Farm is used to living a certain way and now finds itself in a cell. City is used to it and smaller. Farm will hate it. Farm will turn your shit upside down. Yes dogs adapt but can you. Is this how YOU want to live. Is this FAIR to other dog. Is this fair to Farm Dog.

LOOK FOR A HOME OR MOVE YOURSELF.

This is not good. Farm dog is 3 and pretty set in her ways now. Used to having space and cruising all day outside where dogs are happy to be. Not couped up in a little apartment.

Do yourself and your other dog a favor. Find a new home for Farm. With room and a yard at least.

Farm is used to living a certain way and now finds itself in a cell. City is used to it and smaller. Farm will hate it. Farm will turn your shit upside down. Yes dogs adapt but can you. Is this how YOU want to live. Is this FAIR to other dog. Is this fair to Farm Dog.

LOOK FOR A HOME OR MOVE YOURSELF.

If dogs couldn't adapt, any shelter dog with an unknown past would be unable to be adopted. They are more adaptable than we give them credit. They are dogs/animals, not humans.

So 2 APBT's, city dog 1.5 male, farm dog 3 yr old female. If you want her I would give her a chance...most dogs are able to be trained.

She ran with a pack on the farm so you know she tolerates other dogs. She may have just been teaching the younger dog that when she wants to be left alone that means left alone. Without seeing the incident it is hard to say.

APBT's don't show many body signs when they attack to give you a heads up. So you will need to be alert at all times. Pits tend to be very people submissive in my experience but BETA's in a pack. Understanding that alone is half the battle imo.

A smart dog will let you think you are alpha until a situation arises.

I would crate, NILF program, feed separate, leash at all times indoors. You have brought her to a new situation and it will take time for all.

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I think crate is going to have to happen. Especially with the food situation. There's no extra places to feed them separate right now so how would I go about that.

I'm familiar with NILF the city pit use to have bad separation anxiety and that really helped.

I do want to try. But I have to be smart. Right now I'm not allowing her on the bed. City pit is first come first serve. First love, first feeding, first potty break. Is that a good way to go about it?

How do I know when to give farm dog love? Or when to allow her on the bed?

Farm pit has stopped growling since city pit is on bed.

Some of the best dogs are dogs with crazy pasts.

one last thing...

It cannot be said enough...Alpha does not / should not raise a hand nor voice to gain cooperation from pack members.

I think she is dominant beta not alpha but time will tell.

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Good crate training steps in the OMEGA section.

I've never laid a hand on my dog. Good strong body language is the best way.

Okay so far farm dog is not allowed on the bed. Only city dog. The growling has stopped. She has however started to whine. This is normal and should be ignored. What should I be doing with her though? I mean after. Should I just avoid her all day and only acknowledge her when she does something good?

Feed her in the crate or bathroom for now; anything to block their view of each other at eating time. She may have had to fight for food on the farm in the pack. See how she does with that, feed her second and make her sit before feeding. I know it is hard ... I free feed my dog because he instinctually eats instead of gorging like most. Trust me they will get used to set feedings. I would not withhold love; just make her work for it with a sit or down.

She is getting off the bed fine for you but you still need to be sure of your alpha position so wait awhile for bed privileges. That is your and your boys domain for now.

Dogs are going to fight a little it is their nature. My 50 pound chow X puts his friend a 78 pound younger Belgian Malinois in his place when needed...it happens.

I would just read everything you can find, don't be intimidated with the task, and try to let the dogs work out their rankings if at all possible. Best outdoors on unfamilar turf before entering the home...but best case scenario does/can not always happen.

Walk your dogs ALOT outdoors with you acting as pack leader. Long walks will make the three of you into a pack as you walk. This will imitate the natural state of a pack of dog better than anything that you can do inside. Try to walk for an hour each day. The exercise will also cut down on boredom and agression and they should be calmer.

Plus you will meet other dog lovers for some support for YOU!

Sorry that was not intended for you but I screwed it up...lol.

I was stating that for those who obviously do not know dogs or beat them into submission based on their comments here.

Okay feed seperate.
Make her work for love.
Walk on leash together with city dog.

She was playing with an squeaky toy. Should I allow that? Or will it develop a toy hog mentality?

If she walks well with the other dog how will I know she can handle "city" life?

Oh haha my bad!

I think that it is OK for her to play with the toy as long as she is not trying to "kill" it and as long as she will leave it when you tell her to leave it alone.