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IAMIAM User ID: 18016289 United States 03/20/2013 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buddah is a guy who technically doesnt even believe in God per se. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329728 Monks are beggars, so, essentially they dont treat others the same, since they essentially beg for material goods from others and give back nothing tangible. Do you even understand what treating others equally means? Equal means doing for others what they do for you. A beggar is not treating others equally, he is being a parasite and making all others his host. How old are you? If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? |
Forgotten (OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 03/20/2013 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is not about what is wrong with organized religions. Or how it has been subverted for the powerful/rich. This is about the golden rule, and the fact that most religions teach this tenet. Stop posting off topic please. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Buddha never said god or eternity dont exist. Buddha said go to Nirvana and find out. Instead of telling humans everything Buddha gave out instructions so that humans could find the answers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36553700 The Dalai Lama expanded on this recently. Stating that if Buddha did answer the question it would be... "Everything is God" Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I didn't read this whole thread, but the christians have the "love thy neighbor as thyself" idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37916278 Avoid all religions and just use common sense. Golden rule falls under common sense to me. It is in all religions. Click the link in the first post. But yes, the Christians use the phrase you posted. I agree it is common sense. We were born with this feeling. Takes 12 years of schooling and 18 years of Media to bury it in your sub-conscious though. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36600744 United States 04/12/2013 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Golden Rule! Quoting: Forgotten Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Every major religions speaks of it. And every "religious" person knows of this. Sad part is, seems there are very few people (religious or otherwise) that actually practice it. It is the only law/rule that matters. Look at your choices through this "lens" and you will see every mistake you have ever made. EDIT: [link to www.teachingvalues.com] List here. The flaw in that logic is this... What about S&M type people who like to be abused and humiliated? The golden rule is bunk for that reason imo. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36600744 United States 04/12/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I didn't read this whole thread, but the christians have the "love thy neighbor as thyself" idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37916278 Avoid all religions and just use common sense. Golden rule falls under common sense to me. It is in all religions. Click the link in the first post. But yes, the Christians use the phrase you posted. I agree it is common sense. We were born with this feeling. Takes 12 years of schooling and 18 years of Media to bury it in your sub-conscious though. What if you hate yourself? Then you should hate others? No wonder this world is so fucked up, ppl following stupid rules like this. |
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Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Golden Rule! Quoting: Forgotten Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Every major religions speaks of it. And every "religious" person knows of this. Sad part is, seems there are very few people (religious or otherwise) that actually practice it. It is the only law/rule that matters. Look at your choices through this "lens" and you will see every mistake you have ever made. EDIT: [link to www.teachingvalues.com] List here. The flaw in that logic is this... What about S&M type people who like to be abused and humiliated? The golden rule is bunk for that reason imo. Even S&M people have rules they follow. They would never just start their S&M stuff without finding the right partner. I have heard this debate before. S&M folks dont want someone to come up and randomly spank them. You speak of S&M like you know, when it is obvious you dont know any personally. Last Edited by Forgotten on 04/12/2013 12:13 PM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I didn't read this whole thread, but the christians have the "love thy neighbor as thyself" idea. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37916278 Avoid all religions and just use common sense. Golden rule falls under common sense to me. It is in all religions. Click the link in the first post. But yes, the Christians use the phrase you posted. I agree it is common sense. We were born with this feeling. Takes 12 years of schooling and 18 years of Media to bury it in your sub-conscious though. What if you hate yourself? Then you should hate others? No wonder this world is so fucked up, ppl following stupid rules like this. Stupid rules? I cant believe what some people post. What if you hate yourself. Doesnt mean you want to hate yourself. Doesnt mean you want others to hate you. The Golden Rule is stupid? Where are you from? Who taught you that? What religion (if any) do you follow? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24145022 United States 04/12/2013 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 10:25-28 25 And, behold , a certain lawyer stood up , and tempted him, saying , Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou ? 27 And he answering said , Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do , and thou shalt live |
Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Luke 10:25-28 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24145022 25 And, behold , a certain lawyer stood up , and tempted him, saying , Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou ? 27 And he answering said , Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do , and thou shalt live Thank you for posting this. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another way to look at this is that its ok to hate and/or not care about others as long as you hate/don't care about yourself. That's the fatal loophole of this rule. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36600744 What person honestly wants someone else to hate them? I have never met such a person. No one wants to "hate" themselves either. At least in all my journeys. Even if those people do exists, they would be such a small portion of society, the world would still be better. But, I dont think they exist. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37630817 Canada 04/12/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The physical brain is a powerful manifestation that is desperate to retain control over the body and it's emotions, rather then let the spirit guide you within. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30206483 Yes. People think their brains are "them". It is just another part of your body. Like your eyes, or hands. Your thoughts (brain) has nothing to do with who/what you really are. Getting the brain to "Shut Up" is one of the hardest things to do. But, if you can master it, all the answers are waiting for you. Good post, very true... What is not known by most people is the genetic manipulation that took place in the past... Dna can, and has been programmed in these bodies to send signals... This combined with social programming influences the person to move in the direction, the controllers programmed... Let your conscience be your guide is a misleading statement... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30619939 United States 04/12/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So mohummud treated everyone like himself? Even those he had looted, murdered, raped or enslaved? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329728 That's nice to know. Did King David, Send another womans husband to war to die so he could have his wife for himself? WOuld he send himself away to die for someone elses bootycall? The other bloke was right, you dont even understand the topic you post about Why do you follow David? Yes, the "golden rule" was preached by Christ. The Old Testament followed Jehovah, or Yahweh, not God. Thou shalt not kill. Thats another commandment that every false religion breaks. You can kill as many people as Jesus: zero, zilch, nada! Look at there fruits. Is there agape love, or a lust for the material things? Big buildings with idols, banners, altars, fancy clothes, all fruits of this world. The world of satan. |
Celtic Ranger User ID: 37513297 United States 04/12/2013 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | With no religion, there would be no terrorist, no fundamentalist. Alot of the crazy in people would be gone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32754535 Its always easy to overlook the cause for people failing to treat others by the "golden rule". That cause is humanity its self. It is not the fault of a particular religious faith or lack of faith necessarily. There are certainly as many if not more deaths at the hand of people who profess no religious faith as those who do. The problem is humanity. We as people are not always in control of our emotions. We are prone to lashing out at those who do not think as we do. The idea that is often glossed over from Christianity in particular is that there is a recognition of that deficiency and an acknowledgement that we are not able to overcome these sins on our own. If we were, there would be some semblance of a peaceful coexistence somewhere in the angry, confused little planet. Be civil to all; sociable to many; familiar with few; friend to one; enemy to none. Benjamin Franklin |
Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since we are all essentially one interconnected entity the golden rule could be simplified even more: "Be Kind to Yourself" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36133702 Agreed™ Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
ChillyNorth User ID: 21696665 Canada 04/12/2013 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what you're saying is that eye for an eye concept is omnipresent in all religions? So all this shit's preaching the same? Who needs it? Damn sure is an Islamic doctrine, but there you get your ear cut off, you would do unto someone else a similar ear surgery. |
Lotus Flower User ID: 16091860 United Kingdom 04/12/2013 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Golden Rule! Quoting: Forgotten Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Every major religions speaks of it. And every "religious" person knows of this. Sad part is, seems there are very few people (religious or otherwise) that actually practice it. It is the only law/rule that matters. Look at your choices through this "lens" and you will see every mistake you have ever made. EDIT: [link to www.teachingvalues.com] List here. It is not the only rule that matters. Love is what matters, unfortunately that is not practised much of the time either. Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So mohummud treated everyone like himself? Even those he had looted, murdered, raped or enslaved? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1329728 That's nice to know. Did King David, Send another womans husband to war to die so he could have his wife for himself? WOuld he send himself away to die for someone elses bootycall? The other bloke was right, you dont even understand the topic you post about Why do you follow David? Yes, the "golden rule" was preached by Christ. The Old Testament followed Jehovah, or Yahweh, not God. Thou shalt not kill. Thats another commandment that every false religion breaks. You can kill as many people as Jesus: zero, zilch, nada! Look at there fruits. Is there agape love, or a lust for the material things? Big buildings with idols, banners, altars, fancy clothes, all fruits of this world. The world of satan. Yep, and saying you follow something is completely different then living that life. Actions speak louder then words. Just because some "prophet" manipulated and changed something doesnt mean his actions should be used to denegrate an entire religion. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten (OP) User ID: 37435970 United States 04/12/2013 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Golden Rule! Quoting: Forgotten Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. Every major religions speaks of it. And every "religious" person knows of this. Sad part is, seems there are very few people (religious or otherwise) that actually practice it. It is the only law/rule that matters. Look at your choices through this "lens" and you will see every mistake you have ever made. EDIT: [link to www.teachingvalues.com] List here. It is not the only rule that matters. Love is what matters, unfortunately that is not practised much of the time either. Falls very closely to each other. I want to be loved, and therefore I give love. I want respect, therefor I give it. etc. There are only 2 emotions (IMHO). Fear and Love. Every other emotion is derived from those 2 things. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |