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"My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook?

 
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the trippiest part of the defeo murders is that every single family member was found face down in their beds. they weren't moved, or drugged, and they were all killed in their sleep.

how is this possible?
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He had a major argument and left the house. He walked to a bar nearby and drank for hours. He returned home and shot his whole family. The End
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actually i know someone who grew up/went to school with the killer. she claimed he was high on pcp
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actually he was using lsd in the basement before it all went down
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I don't know why, but I think there is a connection here that hasn't come to the surface yet. Defeo and Lutz look so much alike. There are Long Island luciferians that go way back. I mean way way back. Defeo and Lutz look like they could be brothers.

Apparently, Lutz was deep into occult practice and even could move objects with his mind.

There's more to this than meets the eye.

I have a gift of discernment.
There is an occult connection between Lutz and Defeo.

Look at photos of both men.

Lutz
:lutz:

Defeo
:defeo:
 Quoting: Salt


doesn't anyone find it strange that these two men look so alike. the part in the hair, the beard, etc.

almost like Lutz tried to look like Defeo....
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thats how they all looked in that era in long island. look through any year books. everyone had that same style hair cut and beard
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I know all about it, my father was ronnies friend. they grew up together. I know more then what you can find out on the internet. if anyone wants to contact me off the site i can verify how my family is connected. im just not putting personal info out for the public to see. I will only verify to someone who will not blast my personal details to the public.
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actually it was all related to the Montauk project down the road. synthetic telepathy and electromagnetic field distortions.
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hmmm seriously?
do tell?
or are you pullin my chain?
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See the work of Dr Frey.
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What I don't understand about all of this is that if these Illuminati puppets and luciferians are so powerful and well connected, why do they get busted for pedophilia, drugs, corruption, etc...?
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Salt, I would love to hear you present this subject in another environment.

Very Interested.
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What I don't understand about all of this is that if these Illuminati puppets and luciferians are so powerful and well connected, why do they get busted for pedophilia, drugs, corruption, etc...?
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as far as I know , they have no connections to night the defeo family died. maybe they have connections with the lutz family. but as far as what the lutz had to do with the murders is just bs to make a profit for themselves from the murders.
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im not trying to derail any thread on the lutz family. im just putting out the info i know of the defeo murders. George lutz may have links to luciferian/illuminati. I just know about the night of the murders and history of the defeo family before the murders.
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actually i know someone who grew up/went to school with the killer. she claimed he was high on pcp
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so was Charles Manson. Laurel Canyon and mind control.
Thread: Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation

read it. historical facts. and why gaga, Madonna, and Beyonce still lip synch. scripted and staged. green movement was in China first, started by Mao. Communist satanist types introduced hippie movement, Leary, LSD -- CIA tests in the 60's. same as Bertrand Russel introduced the feminist movement with stars and cigarettes.
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ive done a lot of reading about the whole laurel canyon saga.

so i just looked at the amityville faq site and lo and behold: none other than BRIAN WILSON owned the house from '97 to '10

WTF??

June 10, 1997 - September 2010 Brian Wilson
[link to www.amityvillefaq.com]
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ohno

Dude, Salt, and others -- this is big!!! --- Book deal. what scares me is the Laurel Canyon stuff, is hippies visiting the music star's cabins and houses there reported tunnels with demonic entities in them. Beach boys is tied into manson too.
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tunnels with entities, i have to read about this.
linky?
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I don't know why, but I think there is a connection here that hasn't come to the surface yet. Defeo and Lutz look so much alike. There are Long Island luciferians that go way back. I mean way way back. Defeo and Lutz look like they could be brothers.

Apparently, Lutz was deep into occult practice and even could move objects with his mind.

There's more to this than meets the eye.

I have a gift of discernment.
There is an occult connection between Lutz and Defeo.

Look at photos of both men.

Lutz
:lutz:

Defeo
:defeo:
 Quoting: Salt


doesn't anyone find it strange that these two men look so alike. the part in the hair, the beard, etc.

almost like Lutz tried to look like Defeo....
 Quoting: Salt



thats how they all looked in that era in long island. look through any year books. everyone had that same style hair cut and beard
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um...i'm the same age as danny lutz (maybe a couple yrs younger) and from PA and there were lots of hairstyles going on. beards, not so much.
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What I don't understand about all of this is that if these Illuminati puppets and luciferians are so powerful and well connected, why do they get busted for pedophilia, drugs, corruption, etc...?
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there's many different competing houses. and they will always turn one those that get old and weak. much of the revealing stuff, especially through the web is about mind control and learned helplessness as the info is so scary it makes many more obedient automatons. that's the idea behind Operation Phoenix. think about lord of the rings, as the ultimate evil that manifest here will not share power with any of them. this is what's happening now too, as supposedly the real deal anti christ is here and will make scapegoats out of the old world satanists and turn the mob on them. Obama is part of the wicker man scapegoated clown posy. expect to see the Queen, Bush, Clintons, Obama, magistrates, police, Popes all thrown under the bus, and shown to be clearly corrupt and pedophiles. wait, it's already started.
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sorry if i missed parts of the thread, but i know from first hand knowledge that the defeo murders were not supernatural. Ronnie made up allot of different stories over the years to try to get himself out of prison. look through case files, the story changed everytime there was a parole hearing or appeal. I could go into details but everyone would just call me a shill. the defeo family had links to the mob. ronnie was always blasted on herion.

The story he told was that his sister dawn wanted to go to florida with friends, daddy wouldnt let her, she shot up her family, ronnie discovered what dawn did, got the marlin rifle from her and shot her.

the way i figure it, is daddy found out ronnie was stealing money from the car lot his daddy ran. and ronnie was stealing money to support is addiction. probably some altercation happened between ronnie and his dad before the murders took place. the whole case was shuffled through the court system because of the mob ties the defeo's had. can anyone say payoffs..

the lutz family is all bs , he was just trying to sell books and make money on a tragedy. look into their history before and after the house on ocean dr. as far as the illuminati link, i dont know about the lutz that much, i just know about the defeo murders.
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i hear ya. but, if there are murders going on, then their are dark entities involved. period, end of sentence.
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What I don't understand about all of this is that if these Illuminati puppets and luciferians are so powerful and well connected, why do they get busted for pedophilia, drugs, corruption, etc...?
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there's two parts to this answer.

one, they DON't get busted.

and two, if you try and leave the illuminati or luciferian coven, they will launch a smear campaign that accuses you of drugs, corruption or pedophilia, regardless if you were involved in the stuff or not.
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so was Charles Manson. Laurel Canyon and mind control.
Thread: Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation

read it. historical facts. and why gaga, Madonna, and Beyonce still lip synch. scripted and staged. green movement was in China first, started by Mao. Communist satanist types introduced hippie movement, Leary, LSD -- CIA tests in the 60's. same as Bertrand Russel introduced the feminist movement with stars and cigarettes.
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ive done a lot of reading about the whole laurel canyon saga.

so i just looked at the amityville faq site and lo and behold: none other than BRIAN WILSON owned the house from '97 to '10

WTF??

June 10, 1997 - September 2010 Brian Wilson
[link to www.amityvillefaq.com]
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ohno

Dude, Salt, and others -- this is big!!! --- Book deal. what scares me is the Laurel Canyon stuff, is hippies visiting the music star's cabins and houses there reported tunnels with demonic entities in them. Beach boys is tied into manson too.
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tunnels with entities, i have to read about this.
linky?
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the info about that is in the laurel canyon link above. the link someone did with Morrison specific also shows one of the hilltop buildings with tunnels underneath. another was one of the singer's houses that people reported getting wasted and entering a tunnel near the pool and saw figures.
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so was Charles Manson. Laurel Canyon and mind control.
Thread: Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation

read it. historical facts. and why gaga, Madonna, and Beyonce still lip synch. scripted and staged. green movement was in China first, started by Mao. Communist satanist types introduced hippie movement, Leary, LSD -- CIA tests in the 60's. same as Bertrand Russel introduced the feminist movement with stars and cigarettes.
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ive done a lot of reading about the whole laurel canyon saga.

so i just looked at the amityville faq site and lo and behold: none other than BRIAN WILSON owned the house from '97 to '10

WTF??

June 10, 1997 - September 2010 Brian Wilson
[link to www.amityvillefaq.com]
 Quoting: Anubis


ohno

Dude, Salt, and others -- this is big!!! --- Book deal. what scares me is the Laurel Canyon stuff, is hippies visiting the music star's cabins and houses there reported tunnels with demonic entities in them. Beach boys is tied into manson too.
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not to mention Laurel Canyon mkultra killings by young stars who were all children of wealthy SRA families or military ones. and the killings were linked to the Black Dahlia and recently assciated with the LAM girl in the water tank at the hotel. LAM being Crowley's LAM. The Montaukk base supposedly had underground tunnels running all over the place that were concreted in -- or the entrances from Montauk were. creepy.
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a tangled web ...
all tied together, all of it
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What I don't understand about all of this is that if these Illuminati puppets and luciferians are so powerful and well connected, why do they get busted for pedophilia, drugs, corruption, etc...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1465586


there's many different competing houses. and they will always turn one those that get old and weak. much of the revealing stuff, especially through the web is about mind control and learned helplessness as the info is so scary it makes many more obedient automatons. that's the idea behind Operation Phoenix. think about lord of the rings, as the ultimate evil that manifest here will not share power with any of them. this is what's happening now too, as supposedly the real deal anti christ is here and will make scapegoats out of the old world satanists and turn the mob on them. Obama is part of the wicker man scapegoated clown posy. expect to see the Queen, Bush, Clintons, Obama, magistrates, police, Popes all thrown under the bus, and shown to be clearly corrupt and pedophiles. wait, it's already started.
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Ron DeFeo was a drugged out spoiled rich kid looney who couldn't get his way and went off on a nutty. Lutz was an opportunist looking for a way to make money, because he was cutting as a contractor. As far as them looking like each other....it was the 1970's alot of people looked like that. I can pull out family photo albums and see that my dad and uncles on both sides of my family looked like that. Amityville Horror = B.S. Hoax!!!!
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Ron DeFeo was a drugged out spoiled rich kid looney who couldn't get his way and went off on a nutty. Lutz was an opportunist looking for a way to make money, because he was cutting as a contractor. As far as them looking like each other....it was the 1970's alot of people looked like that. I can pull out family photo albums and see that my dad and uncles on both sides of my family looked like that. Amityville Horror = B.S. Hoax!!!!
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wow. do u hear voices too when the dog barks?
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Ron DeFeo was a drugged out spoiled rich kid looney who couldn't get his way and went off on a nutty. Lutz was an opportunist looking for a way to make money, because he was cutting as a contractor. As far as them looking like each other....it was the 1970's alot of people looked like that. I can pull out family photo albums and see that my dad and uncles on both sides of my family looked like that. Amityville Horror = B.S. Hoax!!!!
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oh drugs, satanism, and mind control keep on going hand in hand
Thread: The Maker of Prozac did this, and lives in the Mother of Darkness Castle?? WTF???
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what a f*cking tangled web eh?
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this web?
[link to starworlds.blogspot.com]

or the Bohemian Grove's: no weaving spiders dare come here web. but yeah, crazy. makes you question everything. but the transhumanist movement id the Satanists new thing and makes the food and air suspect. but back to Long Island.
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by the way Salt, didn't you do a Oz thread recently? i think this all ties in.
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i did. all my threads are about the same stuff. they all tie in.

Thread: Oz - a standard Illuminati production and the start of a new franchise - but, mostly it's the Diary of Lucifer from Luciferian standpoint
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sorry if i missed parts of the thread, but i know from first hand knowledge that the defeo murders were not supernatural. Ronnie made up allot of different stories over the years to try to get himself out of prison. look through case files, the story changed everytime there was a parole hearing or appeal. I could go into details but everyone would just call me a shill. the defeo family had links to the mob. ronnie was always blasted on herion.

The story he told was that his sister dawn wanted to go to florida with friends, daddy wouldnt let her, she shot up her family, ronnie discovered what dawn did, got the marlin rifle from her and shot her.

the way i figure it, is daddy found out ronnie was stealing money from the car lot his daddy ran. and ronnie was stealing money to support is addiction. probably some altercation happened between ronnie and his dad before the murders took place. the whole case was shuffled through the court system because of the mob ties the defeo's had. can anyone say payoffs..

the lutz family is all bs , he was just trying to sell books and make money on a tragedy. look into their history before and after the house on ocean dr. as far as the illuminati link, i dont know about the lutz that much, i just know about the defeo murders.
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i hear ya. but, if there are murders going on, then their are dark entities involved. period, end of sentence.
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yeah you could say darkness involved for sure. any murder would be dark. Not arguing that point. But the night of the murder it was all ronnie. he was living on the wrong path and made bad decisions. drugs definitely took his mind in the wrong direction. but to my knowledge ronnie didnt have a part of any luciferian operation that made him do what he did. Drugs mess with your mind and take you to places you dont need to go. besides im sure growing up in the defeo family would have negative effects on ones soul. they had definite mob links. ask anyone that lived in that area during that time.

The lutz on the other hand may have illuminati connections, they were definitely into some dark shit. but they had no connections to the defeo family except they bought the house on ocean ave. as far as my knowledge anyways.
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Amityville was a hoax. Butch DeFeo's lawyer, William Weber admitted that he and the Lutzes created the entire thing while drinking some wine.

"The claims of physical damage to the locks, doors and windows were rejected by Jim and Barbara Cromarty, who bought the house for $55,000 in March 1977. In a television interview filmed at the house for That's Incredible!, Barbara Cromarty argued that they appeared to be the original items and had not been repaired.

The That's Incredible! feature also showed that the "Red Room" was a small closet in the basement, and was known to the previous owners of the house since it was not concealed in any way. The claim made in Chapter 11 of the book that the house was built on a site where the local Shinnecock Indians had once abandoned the mentally ill and the dying was rejected by local Native American leaders.

The claim of cloven hoofprints in the snow on January 1, 1976 was rejected by other researchers, since a check on the weather records showed that there had been no snow in Amityville on the day in question.

Neighbors reported nothing unusual during the time that the Lutzes were living there.

Police officers are depicted visiting the house in the book and 1979 film, but records showed that the Lutzes did not call the police during the period that they were living on Ocean Avenue.

There was no bar in Amityville called The Witches' Brew at the time, and Ronald DeFeo, Jr. was a regular at Henry's Bar, a short distance from 112 Ocean Avenue."

And so on, and so on.
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Amityville was a hoax. Butch DeFeo's lawyer, William Weber admitted that he and the Lutzes created the entire thing while drinking some wine.

"The claims of physical damage to the locks, doors and windows were rejected by Jim and Barbara Cromarty, who bought the house for $55,000 in March 1977. In a television interview filmed at the house for That's Incredible!, Barbara Cromarty argued that they appeared to be the original items and had not been repaired.

The That's Incredible! feature also showed that the "Red Room" was a small closet in the basement, and was known to the previous owners of the house since it was not concealed in any way. The claim made in Chapter 11 of the book that the house was built on a site where the local Shinnecock Indians had once abandoned the mentally ill and the dying was rejected by local Native American leaders.

The claim of cloven hoofprints in the snow on January 1, 1976 was rejected by other researchers, since a check on the weather records showed that there had been no snow in Amityville on the day in question.

Neighbors reported nothing unusual during the time that the Lutzes were living there.

Police officers are depicted visiting the house in the book and 1979 film, but records showed that the Lutzes did not call the police during the period that they were living on Ocean Avenue.

There was no bar in Amityville called The Witches' Brew at the time, and Ronald DeFeo, Jr. was a regular at Henry's Bar, a short distance from 112 Ocean Avenue."

And so on, and so on.
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doesnt explain what Brian Wilson was doing living there for 13 years and who is heavily involved with satanic mind control cults. see previous pages and links on Laurel Canyon.
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WTF is this all about people?

The is an insane asylum in Amityville that was called the "Amityville Asylum" and it is still open.

Do not believe that Amityville is just a normal community except for the Horror House hoopla.

Drew Barrymore's Great-Grandfather died in the nuthouse there, the Director of Research worked for the CIA on mind control experiments, and more.

SEE:
[link to truelegends.info]

From the New York Times on the CIA Mind Control Experiments with LSD and Amityville:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

That is the New York Times saying this.
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WTF is this all about people?

The is an insane asylum in Amityville that was called the "Amityville Asylum" and it is still open.

Do not believe that Amityville is just a normal community except for the Horror House hoopla.

Drew Barrymore's Great-Grandfather died in the nuthouse there, the Director of Research worked for the CIA on mind control experiments, and more.

SEE:
[link to truelegends.info]

From the New York Times on the CIA Mind Control Experiments with LSD and Amityville:

[link to www.nytimes.com]

That is the New York Times saying this.

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That site was interesting indeed. I particularly found the Al Capone connection interesting.

I do find it interesting how every famous person mentioned on that site who were connected with Amityville in some way, either stayed, lived on or had some connection to Ocean Avenue. Whether this is verified or entirely accurate is another thing.

Annie Oakley lived on Ocean Ave.

The reason she was in New York was because she was part of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. On the east side of AMityville there was the Ranch.


what up now nay sayers?


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filled with Satanists.
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there's some forum that has done extensive research on this case. not one i've ever heard of and I can't link, but they got Butch Defeo linked to the mental hospital and mind control experiments involving LSD.



I have read in a few places his parents took him to get help for his anger issues. Does anyone know the name of the doctor they took him to, what kinds of medications the kid was prescribed or any records of his diagnosis?

One of the things I find interesting ~ do not read anything into it as I clearly have ZERO facts~ is the fact there was an insane asylum in the town. This place was using mind control techniques along with LSD. It is well documented stuff.

In the early 70s places to take your kid to seek help were not on every street corner lol
Since this mind control and LSD therapy was being used during the same time frame that the Defoe's were looking to help their son I kind of am "noobie wise" putting two and two together. I am not saying the CIA controlled Butch to commit the murders ... by far no.

However if they were doing research on this in the same place Butch was getting "help" could he have been one of the poor folks they used? The use of LSD is dangerous but even more so in a young kid. If not LSD there were several drugs used to curb bad behavior in the 70s that had disastrous results later in life. I was curious if any of those drugs were used or what diagnosis he received as that might point to certain drugs being prescribed to him as a child.

Here we have a very unethical research study being done on mental patients in a small town. In the same small town at the same time period we have a kid who is a mental patient. It makes me wonder more about this time in his life.

I am not using this as an excuse or think he is not to blame ... he is guilty. I can feel sympathy for the child or what was done to the child to create the monster.

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Dr. Harold Abramson was doing experiments FOR the CIA and not ON the CIA. Here is one quick clip I just found explaining his unethical use of LSD on patients and staff.


Dr. Harold Abramson created quite a stir years ago when he experimented with fish when he gave them LSD. In the 1970s he became an even bigger international sensation when it was discovered he was doing mind control experiments for the CIA using LSD in a program called MKULTRA. According to the New York Times, "In 1959, Dr. Abramson told a scientific meeting on LSD that at the outset many of his colleagues opposed his work with the drug, regarding him as 'a sort of psychiatric Dracula.'" The director of the asylum was looked upon as a "Mad Scientist" by his peers. In 1953 Dr. Abramson's patient Frank Olson threw himself out a window and died at the Statler Hotel in New York City. In 1975 it was revealed it was from LSD that was given to him as part of a CIA funded research project of Dr. Abramson. Dr. Abramson was giving patients LSD without telling them.

The mental institution held a conference on LSD at the asylum on May 8th to 10th, 1965 in Amityville. According to Betty Grover Eisner "The last important conference for those of us who had worked with LSD was 'The Second International Conference on the Use of LSD in Psychotherapy and Alcoholism', held at the South Oaks Hospital in Amityville, New York. Dr. Harold Abramson was South Oaks Research Director." and "There were fifty-five of us gathered at Amityville, New York, almost every single therapist who had used LSD." ( [link to www.maps.org] Remembrances of LSD therapy past Betty Grover Eisner, Ph.D.August 7, 2002)


Heck even the therapist there were using LSD! It makes me wonder if who was working with Butch at the time.

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This book was written by Dr. Abramson, the director of the mental facility in Amityville.

[link to www.amazon.co.uk]

Since he was the professional in the town, it made me curious if Butch did visit with him or one of his partners or therapist.

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DeFeo Family Murders – A Government Hit?

A secret element of the United States government equips secret police groups (agents) across America with classified surveillance and harassment technology to implement a secret domestic agenda. This domestic agenda involves social engineering of the American people. This social agenda involves domestic spying, creating hoaxes, tragedy, and targeting organized crime and gangs. This is a covert domestic operation that has been occurring since the late 1960’s.

The Lutz family’s story of an extraordinary event that occurred in 1975 in Amityville indicates that they were targeted by sonic harassment technology. Their complaints of being harassed by an invisible force in their home is exactly what people attacked by classified sonic harassment technology would experience. See “Amityville Horror a government hoax” listed below for more information.

I originally thought that the secret government used the DeFeo tragedy to create a hoax by moving into a neighboring house to the Lutz’s after the DeFeo tragedy and tricking the Lutz family into believing they were being haunted by a supernatural force.

After reading the Ronnie DeFeo Jr. parole hearing transcripts, I am wondering if the surveillance of the Amityville Horror house began while the DeFeo family owned the house. Since the DeFeo family was involved in organized crime, they would have been a prime candidate for covert surveillance by the secret government of the United States.

The secret government targets members of organized crime by covertly moving into a house near a targeted household that are engaged in illegal activities involving organized crime. The government agents are equipped with classified surveillance technology that can electronically see and hear through walls. This technology allows the agents to setup in a neighboring house to see and hear right through the walls of the targeted household. There is no privacy from this technology in a typical household. A targeted person can be seen and heard through the walls of his house in any room he may be in. All conversations can be heard and recorded for later analysis.

The agents study every aspect of the targeted person or family in their home. In addition to home surveillance, the agents follow a targeted person to his workplace and rent a suite as close to the targeted person’s workplace as possible. Classified surveillance technology is moved into the suite to conduct workplace surveillance of the targeted person.

The targeted person is placed under surveillance in both his home and workplace. This surveillance can last for months or even years. The targeted person or family will never know they are under surveillance. The classified surveillance technology can’t be detected by the person under surveillance. The agents can see the targeted person through walls but the targeted person can’t see them.

This type of surveillance is used to go after members of organized crime to bring them down. No warrant is needed because the government agents are operating above the law. The agents will find a way to setup and bring the crime members to justice without compromising the covert surveillance operation.

The secret government agents also create tragedy in certain circumstances to socially engineer American society. A fictional example of creating tragedy would be to study a targeted family and learn everything about the family and pick one family member who is mentally unstable and use him as a patsy.

Agents operating in a neighboring house that are conducting 24 hour a day surveillance of the targeted household, initiate an assassination plot when the patsy leaves the house. Agents storm the household and murder all family members with a rifle belonging to the patsy. After all family members in the house are murdered the murder weapon is left in the house.

When the patsy returns home and finds his family murdered and his rifle in clear view he panics and cleans up the crime scene and disposes of the weapon. The patsy now suspects organized crime has assassinated his family and has set him up to take the fall.

The secret government uses a patsy that when people hear he has committed a terrible crime there will be little doubt in the public’s mind that he is responsible. The secret government agents carefully plan and execute a plot such as this. These government agents are professionals that don’t make mistakes.

Could Ronnie DeFeo be a pasty? He seems to deny at times at his parole hearings that he had anything to do with the murder of his family.

Reasons to suspect that the secret government created the Amityville Horror saga: The DeFeo family having organized crime connections. Ronnie DeFeo Jr. claiming to have heard voices telling him to kill his family would indicate that classified sonic projection technology was used to send him audible messages through the walls of his home. See previous post listed below. The method the DeFeo family was murdered would indicate that more than one person was responsible. Ronnie DeFeo Jr. at times denies he has any involvement in the murders and claims it was organized crime. The priest who blessed the house for the Lutz family heard a voice telling him to get out and then received a slap to the face by an invisible entity. This voice and slap is created by classified sonic sound projection technology and an infrasonic bullet colliding with the priest’s face. The Lutz family experiencing supernatural events after they move into the house. The supernatural events are the same as a person would experience after being attacked with classified sonic harassment technology.

The Amityville Horror saga could be the crown jewel of the secret government’s social engineering of America.

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Re: "My Amityville" documentary. George Lutz-a Long Island luciferian/illuminati linked/related to Defeo? Family Op just like Sandy Hook?
What is up with the cricket noises in the background?

I couldn't finish watching the vid - I got sick to my stomach and a headache. I have a very strong sense of discernment - and can tell you that when this happens - I am "sensing" demonic activity.

Check your spirit - and you will see what lives inside of Lutz is the same thing that lives inside of Defoe - and what you are picking up on Salt.
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Well people, what we see here -- about Butch Defeo and family being killed with mind control is the same as when Michael Aquino hunted down the California social worker investigating him in the McMartin case. Who when captured by the Temple of Set was then made crazy and seen stalking Jennifer Love Hewitt and Spielberg. Satanists employed as University professors were estatic as the social worker caused them problems as Mexicans almost beheaded one of the Satanist in Mexico. The social worker: Diana Napolis, aka curio. She now is schizo and describes a false, holographic sky.

There was a old youtube video where temple of set minions bragged about catching her in a community college computer lab. there footage was used here:



here are the two that caught her, [link to www.youtube.com] but their video bragging has been scrubbed. the black woman is also a dangerous computer hacker, some have speculated is in Aquino's NSA and part of Obama's cyber warrior program.

But anyway, the Mind Wars psychotronic warfare stuff is real that TI's report.





GLP